Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

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chetak wrote: 26 Apr 2024 12:04 khadge and his son are practicing buddhists

That is why they have such an opinion about Sanatana Dharma

if such people came to power, would they be fair ... eyetaalians, abrahamics, buddhists, US citizens, commies, urban naxals and wokes
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Generally means they are crypto's of a katarpanthy variety.
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V_Raman wrote: 27 Apr 2024 07:00 Pandey made many predictions for last assembly elections and they did not come true. Not even close. So please take what he says with a grain of salt. And he is not a centrist journo - he was a AIADMK supporter and now a BJP supporter.
In TN, anyone opposing the DMK is a centrist journo onlee :). Or if you'd prefer, we can go with nationalist.

As for predictions, what did not come true in the assembly elections? Speaking from memory, Pandey had given the DMK an edge while predicting the AIADMK could win a max of 90-105 (halfway mark 117) but with 30+ seats that could go either way, and the DMK's eventual victory was close to that - at least 30 seats were won by them by a 5% or lesser margin (133), and AIADMK won 24 seats (total 66) with a similar (5% or less) margin. Overall, this was a closely fought election with 73 seats won by 5% or lesser margins by all parties. So that prediction's as good as it gets with tight contests, so I'm not sure what you mean by "not even close". I recall he had predicted a clean sweep for the DMK in 2019 as well.

Anyway, every prediction needs to be taken with a grain of salt, so nothing to debate there from my side. I have no association with Pandey or the channel, but do follow it regularly for updates that seem to match what eventually happens. In TN, with its party dominated media wasteland, this is a good nationalist voice to support, so let's not run down "our side" people unnecessarily.
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Sumeet wrote: 27 Apr 2024 07:58 Have been talking to bunch of contacts in India, some people are less enthusiastic compared to 2019. Mostly because they think that Modi will definitely come back so they are complacent, some are planning long weekend trips etc.
Complacency is one thing, but those who skip elections for a weekend trip fully deserve the wealth redistribution scheme schemed by the Congi and BIF think tanks. Too bad we cannot have a targeted implementation for these people, if (or when, if these people are in a majority) such policies are enforced, and all people would get impacted.
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Has anyone tried subscribing to Dr Pravin Patil's substack ? I wanted to take a one month sub, but the site does not let you make payment.
His articles before the 2019 election were spot on - perhaps the only analyst who got it right.
Seems to be some glitch with his account.
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EVM wins again: Supreme Court rejects all petitions asking for 100% verification by VVPAT slips, refuses to take country back to paper ballot age


https://www.business-standard.com/elect ... 200_1.html

“In our considered opinion, EVMs are simple, secure, and user-friendly. The voters, candidates and their representatives, and the officials of the ECI (Election Commission of India) are aware of the nitty-gritty of the EVM system. They also check and ensure righteousness and integrity. Moreover, the incorporation of the VVPAT system fortifies the principle of vote verifiability, thereby enhancing the overall accountability of the electoral process,” said the Bench of Justices Sanjiv Khanna and Dipankar Datta.
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Islam forbids organ donation, but allows receiving: As a Pakistani girl receives a heart transplant in India, Indians have many questions

What exactly are the effing foolish Hindus trying to prove

You will very rarely find jihadis on the donor lists but they throng the recipients queue lists

If they can't donate, they shouldn't be able to receive it too. ... It's as simple as that. It's absurd to know and see that a culture can be so selfish and greedy at the same time.

wasn't a hindu awaiting their turn for this very heart



In singapore, where every citizen is automatically opted in as an organ donor, all Ms opt out.

So the singapore Govt puts them on lowest priority in recipient queue.

This is called ‘nyay’.



https://indianexpress.com/article/trend ... l-9290060/


Ayesha Rashan, 19, from Pakistan’s Karachi got a new life after a heart transplant surgery in Chennai’s MGM Healthcare. Rashan came to India for the first time in 2019 with a severe heart dysfunction, which eventually led to heart failure.

According to NDTV, Rashan was on ECMO, a life support system for people with life-threatening ailments or injuries that affect the heart or lungs. She underwent a full heart transplant after her heart pump developed a leak in a valve. The report also mentioned that the heart transplant procedure—over Rs 35 lakh—was borne by the hospital and Chennai-based Aishwaryam Trust.

Dr KR Balakrishnan, Director of the Institute of Heart and Lung Transplant and Dr Suresh Rao, Co-Director of the Institute learned about the emergency and the financial assistance Rashan needed. They said the teen received the heart immediately as there were no competing claims. Otherwise, a foreigner can’t get an organ. She received a heart from a 69-year-old, brain-dead patient from Delhi.

“She (Rashan) is like my daughter. Every life matters,” the doctors said.


Expressing her gratitude to the Indian government, Rashan and her mother Sanobar highlighted a lack of medical facilities in Pakistan. They informed that the doctors in Pakistan said no transplant facility was available.


"islam forbids organ donation, but allows receiving" is a mullah made construct so very conveniently devised. none of their books even talk of organ donation because the very concept and also the technical possibility to conduct an organ transplant is of very recent origin

their ummah/communal sense of entitlement is mind boggling and, of all the possibilities, the faithfool pious have deigned to accept a kaffir's heart

Dr KR Balakrishnan is now eagerly awaiting his padma shri/bhushan/bharat ratna/nobel prize for either peace or medicine and sending out feelers for a RS seat
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^^Why the hell are they giving visa for this kind of C£$@!^!!
I thought this was stopped.
Know a friend who is Nephrologist in Dilli
There used to be whole mini-industry running this kind of racket for these idiots from Paxatan
All in the name of Crap-ka-tamasha lots of people made money!!
When visa was difficult to come by or even otherwise the doctors would go to Dubai/Sharjah to conduct followup consultations
I thought this has all been streamed by establishment of Zonal Transplant Co-ordination Programme(correct me if I am wrong)
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Another peaceful killing a lady in Dilli (is the news correct)
Was harassing the lady's daughter.
Barged into house and not finding the girl shot the mother!
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SRajesh wrote: 27 Apr 2024 13:22 Another peaceful killing a lady in Dilli (is the news correct)
Was harassing the lady's daughter.
Barged into house and not finding the girl shot the mother!

SRajesh ji,


All these allegedly "unrelated" incidents point to a pattern and a diabolical game plan in play


There is a distinct method in this madness
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SRajesh wrote: 26 Apr 2024 18:17 Bhailog
It appears as if everyone including my late Grand uncle' second wife's third brother's grandson (living in Germany) married to a Dutch-chinese women's granfather and his half Zulu and half Venezualan wife in South Africa is more worried about who the indians elect than the Indians themselves.
so lets take a bit of chill pill but do let all indians know what my Grand uncles nalayak potha (so called potha) is upto!! :rotfl:
You have quite a family :) By any chance, is your family the United Nations? :rotfl:
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SRajesh wrote: 27 Apr 2024 13:22 Another peaceful killing a lady in Dilli (is the news correct)
Was harassing the lady's daughter.
Barged into house and not finding the girl shot the mother!
https://www.indiatoday.in/cities/delhi/ ... 2024-04-26

Typically, Abduls target Hindu girls of 16 and 17 years of age. These girls have developed puberty hormones but are innocent of the world and easy to trap in love (first crush). The girl apparently tried to elope twice with Abdul.
PS: Always keep a sharp-edged weapon in your house. You never know when it is needed. Hindus need to arm themselves again, like they were before 1857.
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इस मुसलमान लड़की की बात सुनो, जब रिपोर्टर कहता है कि अगर हिंदुओं ने भी शुरू कर दिया कि अब गीता का कानून चलेगा या सिक्खों ने यह कहना शुरू कर दिया कि अब गुरुजी के हिसाब से इस देश का कानून चलेगा, तो इस लड़की का जवाब था कि जो लोग पढ़े लिखे हैं वह ऐसा कभी नहीं कहेंगे, यानी इन सबको पता है कि हम हमेशा ऐसे ही रहेंगे हिंदू ऐसे ही रहेंगे


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DO YOU KNOW?

Magsaysay award (funded by CIA) winner Sonam Wangchuk (along with Anti-Bharat Kejariwal & Ravish Kumar), who is spreading Unrest in Ladakh & stopping LAC Fortification to suit China....is funded by “Dan Church Aid" which is funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation.

You are completely exposed, Mr Wangchuk! Very soon, this information will reach to every house in Ladakh. Rest....you will soon join your partner...Kejariwal in Tihar.

Modi 3.0 is going to be war against every Urban Naxal & Foreign Agent who work against interest of OUR Nation.

Once again Sonam Wangchuk is Exposed!

He terms Dan Church Aid, a 'reputed organisation'. Dan Church Aid is funded by George Soros, Deep State & US/EU Govts.

He Alleges MHA leaking his NGO's details, but it is Public information.


Find the Truth


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The BJP very rightly gave this entitled clown "the heads I win, tails you lose" option, a political dilemma when presented as the Hobson's choice



This is what happens to someone who puts up his own posters publicly pushing himself as the best option as the CM of UP


especially when no one in the BJP even considered it relevant to ask him his opinion on the matter.

The sheer sense of dynastic entitlement clouds judgements, particularly when these dimwits are seen as conceited mediocrities in the ecosystem







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Phase II voter turnout in UP and Behar very low; leave alone 400 par,
At this rate of voter turnout in the big states it will make the required 276 had to get.
Looks like another "India shining" election result. (HOPE and PRAY I am wrong)
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Hmmm
Do you think we need to get Mani out of house arrest and trust a mike in his face??
Maybe the Ram temple could be the trigger
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@PriyamGM

Annamalai ji has gotten it bang on.

This #WealthRedistributionPlan is a continuation of the balkanization of Bharat plan which Rahulji’s great-grandfather Pandit Nehru began in the 1940s.

The Prime Minister has very correctly pointed out Congress’ mal-intentions which is why Rahulji has blurred out those sections from his speech.


No citizen of India should let this slide!



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Chetakji and bhailog
What if Doornobs given a copy of INC - CCP MOU even if it is just a first page of the copy :?: :?:
We need some Dhamaka!
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How can we get hold of few pages
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Watch @AbhishBanerj explain step by step how Gandhy Paarivar and CONgress Party destroyed the Indian economy & looted Hindus with the same Maoist redistribution policies which Pappu is pushing now.

congi nazi schwein rathee & jihadi jubair will not share this, so repost it.



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SRajesh wrote: 27 Apr 2024 20:17 Chetakji and bhailog
What if Doornobs given a copy of INC - CCP MOU even if it is just a first page of the copy :?: :?:
We need some Dhamaka!

SRajesh ji

Some people were there when it was signed

They may know the contents of the MOU

one is very sure that if they know, the GOI already knows
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ramana wrote: 26 Apr 2024 10:01 Dilbu you are very.much needed.
Ramana

Aab ki.bar 400
Ramana,

Can we please get some good analysis of what's happening on the ground from BRF members in different states? There's a lot of noise here, SM and MSM.
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SRajesh wrote: 27 Apr 2024 20:17 Chetakji and bhailog
What if Doornobs given a copy of INC - CCP MOU even if it is just a first page of the copy :?: :?:
We need some Dhamaka!
This should be a 2 step exercise. First to accuse the Congress of hiding the details contrary to their belief in RTI and then secondly to selectively accuse them of treason with knowledge of the said agreements contents, which the current government no doubt currently processes.
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It looks like some people have found a new straw to clutch in order to increase their own stress levels and berate the BJP somehow or the other: the voter turnout. At least it's something new relative to the 2014 and 2019 election threads. :lol:

Anyway, it turns out Dr BB (@5Forty3) is active again in 2024 with his model-based trackers. Access is by subscription. Basically he says there has been a strong showing by NDA in both Phayzes 1 and 2.

Excerpts from him on X:
The most underrated story of the 24 Election is from Uttar Pradesh. Looks like a second day of a TOTAL Clean Sweep by Lotus! Opposition simply doesn't exist! 4:37 AM · Apr 26, 2024

Must say, this was one of the best mounted campaigns of BJP in Kerala ever. Results will be quite astonishing!

Come on guys, it is 2024 and you are still trying to read the tea leaves by looking at the variation in turnout data of a couple a percentage points. Let me state this with authority; turnout data is totally USELESS (can't stress more) in predicting the outcome. 7:11 AM · Apr 20, 2024
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^^Like I said before, the low voter turnouts in some areas are because the opposition has become dormant and lacks the capacity/will to mount an effective campaign or bring out their voters. It's very interesting how some posters are quick to blame the BJP/Hindu voters without waiting to perform (or at least gain acccess to) any critical analysis.
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Deans wrote: 27 Apr 2024 10:57 Has anyone tried subscribing to Dr Pravin Patil's substack ? I wanted to take a one month sub, but the site does not let you make payment.
His articles before the 2019 election were spot on - perhaps the only analyst who got it right.
Seems to be some glitch with his account.
I tried to get a monthly subscription via Substack, but it can only done through his website 5forty3.com for Rs.900/month or Rs.9,000/annually.

The other person who has an accurate analysis, that I would listen to, is Pradeep Bhandari. He's on the Zee TV and Twitter https://twitter.com/pradip103. Pradeep has travelled throughout India in over 400 constituencies. Unfortunately, like Dr. PP, Pradeep has to make a living and you may have to put up with TV shouting debates.
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Read your own post below again. This girl was indeed on the lowest priority, and in fact foreigners cannot get a transplant - unless the organ has no other competing recipients. So they decided to give it to this girl, probably would also have been of educational/training value for some of the junior docs. No need to rake up issues that have little meaning. On top of that, making snide remarks on the doctor is unwarranted.
chetak wrote: 27 Apr 2024 11:56 Dr KR Balakrishnan, Director of the Institute of Heart and Lung Transplant and Dr Suresh Rao, Co-Director of the Institute learned about the emergency and the financial assistance Rashan needed. They said the teen received the heart immediately as there were no competing claims. Otherwise, a foreigner can’t get an organ. She received a heart from a 69-year-old, brain-dead patient from Delhi.
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^^It seems like the Paki woman received the heart of 69 year old individual which others (I presume ones in India) did not want. I read it in one of the Twitter replies this morning...not sure how accurate it is!

I admit I did jump in to conclusion about the incident. In any case, it is good that someone benefited even if the recipient is from TSP.
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chetak wrote: 27 Apr 2024 11:56
Islam forbids organ donation, but allows receiving: As a Pakistani girl receives a heart transplant in India, Indians have many questions
What exactly are the effing foolish Hindus trying to prove
reminds me of a viral photo of a Hindu doc in KL, pictured delivering a hijaban & her master their 9th or 10th reproduced-deadload-on-earth, smiling ear-to-ear as if made a big achhievement! i got the same question in my mind when i first saw that photo. clueless as dodo communtiy this!
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KL Dubey wrote: 27 Apr 2024 21:54 Read your own post below again. This girl was indeed on the lowest priority, and in fact foreigners cannot get a transplant - unless the organ has no other competing recipients. So they decided to give it to this girl, probably would also have been of educational/training value for some of the junior docs. No need to rake up issues that have little meaning. On top of that, making snide remarks on the doctor is unwarranted.
chetak wrote: 27 Apr 2024 11:56 Dr KR Balakrishnan, Director of the Institute of Heart and Lung Transplant and Dr Suresh Rao, Co-Director of the Institute learned about the emergency and the financial assistance Rashan needed. They said the teen received the heart immediately as there were no competing claims. Otherwise, a foreigner can’t get an organ. She received a heart from a 69-year-old, brain-dead patient from Delhi.



Yes Dubey ji, the remarks are snide and with good reason.

One recalls another "heart" businessman in the south who used to throng the media lime light because of his paki patrons who mostly got free treatment at his place of business. The usual play is to "extract" payment from some NGO after padding the bills. He did not extend such generosity to poor Indian patients, except in rare cases where publicity value was of the nature that had capability of national coverage as a "human interest" story. The poor usually come from UP and bihar because they have little or no viable options in those states

Long story short, he finally got his "award" and after that, knowing full well that no more recognitions would be forthcoming he goes back to his normal "business". The guy was a joke in medical circles for sucking up to every lamp post in the hope that his ambition was fulfilled.

He was a competent heart surgeon though, but sadly stricken by the nobel syndrome like so many of our prime ministers who thought, so mistakenly, that paki publicity was the best path to international success and recognition

In this case there is also a south based two wheeler company that is involved in this. The bone shaking rattlers that they make are only fit for the paki/afro markets and also, many shady NGOs are a part of this aman ka tamasha circus

There is no real way that this Balakrishnan guy would definitively know, beyond all doubts, that "the organ has no other competing recipients" because our organ monitoring data bases and donor/recipient matching control systems are really not that good, not by a long shot.

Many in the rural and semi urban settings are not even properly diagnosed for heart related ailments and hence receive sub optimal care

These are mostly NGO run and they all come with their own bias. No need to go down that potholed road because here be dragons

Are kaffir organs part of wakf property now ...

The question remains unanswered .. why the paki ... could they not extend such (misplaced) genericity to benefit their own citizens



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAMmtFH8whs


Massive Row Over Congress 'Wealth Distribution Policy' | Naseem Khan Irked Over No Ticket To Muslim






The Congress party's wealth distribution policy has sparked controversy, with ongoing debates on the issue. Amidst this, the party's rationale behind wealth redistribution in the country is being questioned.

Naseem Khan, a prominent figure in the party, expresses frustration over the decision to deny a Muslim candidate a ticket.
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(Hindi). Jaishankar On Sam Pitroda : सैम पित्रोदा के संपत्ति वाले बयान पर एस जयशंकर ने क्या कहा ? Loksabha
https://youtu.be/Y7pNCQASsDc?si=fg9ZnUTNarOeP2Rl

He says, to understand what Pitroda said, you have to look at the big picture. This is not Pitroda, or Rahul Gandhi alone, this is the longstanding idea of the Nehru family.
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arshyam wrote: 27 Apr 2024 09:22
Sumeet wrote: 27 Apr 2024 07:58 Have been talking to bunch of contacts in India, some people are less enthusiastic compared to 2019. Mostly because they think that Modi will definitely come back so they are complacent, some are planning long weekend trips etc.
Complacency is one thing, but those who skip elections for a weekend trip fully deserve the wealth redistribution scheme schemed by the Congi and BIF think tanks. Too bad we cannot have a targeted implementation for these people, if (or when, if these people are in a majority) such policies are enforced, and all people would get impacted.
See my point is how to motivate voters. 400 paar or not will not motivate people even if they like what Modi ji is doing. When earlier message was Acche din (2014), One India, Great India (2019) it resonated with people. 400 paar perhaps not.

The focus should be on national issues (like ones I mentioned in my last post). Use that to motivate people. If there is a vacuum then that space will be occupied by local and/or petty issues and caste politics which combined with heat etc factors in the worst case may lead to loss of BJP itself getting absolute majority.

When you say you are getting 400 paar you convince others that I am definitely getting absolute majority, I would like to break a record and please help me with that. If some people prioritize their other plans then they are not alone at fault -- messaging from BJP leadership is also at fault.

NDA/BJP should realize that this and every central govt election from 2014 is about civilizational battle. This is not about whether Modi gets 400 seats or not.

If one argues that 400 seats will help them do x, y, z then list that out to voters and connect those with India story so that people get a clear picture and are motivated to vote in face of any discouraging factor.

Some people spread fake news that with 400 seats BJP can change constitution and remove reservations for OBC/SC/ST etc. This also I learnt by talking to people from that background. Complacency and lack of strong messaging drawing connections to core national issue is cause of concern for me.

I will be worried till June 4th.

Mods please next time get personal number and email address of Dilbu. If he goes MIA, we should be able to track him down and request him to serve the Indic civilization.
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Low voter turnout may also be due to the opposition giving up. Why I say this is due to some pointers:
1) The Bangalore central which has nearly 50% or more peaceful population has had the least voting percentage in Karnataka of around 48%.
2) Literally no money being distributed in my constituency. There is general lack of motivation to vote among the money voting class. Same thing i saw in the booths. Very less peaceful presence. That being a Friday also did not help.
3) The 16 UP seats which went to polls are where BJP had it bad in the last elections barring some seats. Seats like Rampur of Azam Khan has nearly 60% peaceful but BJP won it last time in by elections due to low voter turnout of around 40%.
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Definitely the 400 par is a mistake by BJP especially when there is anti incumbency factor built up in the system after a rule of 10 years. They should have put million new jobs a quarter or some other target that people connect to.

One positive side of this, if somehow BJP gets the majority, is that it clearly exposed Muslim voters. They are doing a huge blunder by giving a clear signal that nothing matters to them except religion. They are taking it for granted all the govt schemes that govt is trying to help them.

Now not only UCC is guaranteed now but also the new govt will do something to control the population growth in a way that it applies to all but Muslims take it hard. They won’t give a damn about alienating these so called minorities as it doesn’t matter.

It is Yogi’s time now. Yogi needs to put everything he has to get the UP. If they get 75+ seats in UP, they will still cross the finish line.

Full disclosure: all my predictions are based on low turn out, high pitch SM celebrations of dot alliance supporters ( all time high chorus), high Muslim turn out, taking signals from outside like Elon Mask postponing his trip. I’ve no first hand information on how the voting is going.
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There is a snake called dhruv rathe spouting venom in social media against the nationalistic gov in power..he is married to a German. Apparently the same ilk of pappu and Co.
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y A_Gupta » 26 Apr 2024 22:22

@chetak - Ishtiaq Ahmed has pretty much demolished Jinnah as he is understood in Pakistan and the basis for Partition in his recent books. So in that he has done a service.

Even in the attached video, he tells Durdana Najam that Indians have a basis for their hostility to Pakistan, e.g., Vajpayee was stabbed in the back by Pakis after he tried to improve relations. But yes, Ishtiaq Ahmed is ultimately part of the Leftist ecosystem. So, e.g, with FM Jaishankar's "never forget, never forgive", he fails to recognize that "forgive" e.g., for Mumbai 26/11 can happen only if all the masterminds of that attack are punished; and "forget" will be never. Further, if Pakistan does not yield up the perpetrators for punishment and they all vanish due to old age, India cannot forgive, because Pakistan will not have actively changed its mindset and strategy.

IMO, we should take what is useful and valuable from Hoodbhoy and Ahmed and so on, which is their knowledge of their country, and discard the rest or ignore it.
ISI agent Ishtiaq was venting venom against Jinnah because he thinks if if India would not have been divided, today Islam would be governing India and in few years they would have been in majority and declared India as Islamic and then what would happen to Hindus are same as what is happening in Pakistan today. He gave this explanation in one of his interview.
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There is a snake called dhruv rathe spouting venom in social media against the nationalistic gov in power..he is married to a German. Apparently the same ilk of pappu and Co.
This guy was launched by congi like Ravish and was supporting financially.
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williams wrote: 27 Apr 2024 00:31
rajsunder wrote: 26 Apr 2024 23:50

Atleast 10 - 15 in UP
15+ in AP
4-5 in Telengana
3-10 in Tamil Nadu
2-3 in Kerala
5-10 in West Bengal

Best case Scenario with the above would be about 60 extra seats.

If you take a look at the Map of 2019 Election, it was still a massive win. So I will be happy if NDA makes that number. However, leaders set goals which will challenge the status quo and hence this new 400 number. My calculation will be (353 - 5) (2019 seats) + 10 (AP) + 5 (TEL) + 5 TN + 5 (WB) + 5 (North East) + 2 (Goa) + 2 (KL) + 2 (Odisha) + 6 (UP) = 390

For me if we get to the above number, NDA has got a massive mandate and BJP has got a firm foot hold in TN and KL to build further.

400 number could give some Lefty Media talking points when NDA could not make that and they continue with their delusion of them having some influence in NDA not achieving that target. While the others move on to Modi 3.0. What I would expect is that the vote share should increase from ~ 45% to 50%
The biggest jump in North India will be in UP from 62 to 78, which is about 16 new seats
The 10 you gave in AP is very very very conservative. With all three on one side, jagan will have tough time getting more than 5 seats.
Even in WB, momta begum is only sure in 7, which have peaceful in majority, other than that BJP can go up to 35. That would be a jump of 17
Punjab is going to be a big surprise for indi alliance is what most of the on ground BJP supporters are saying. It seems even the mazbahi sikhs are now leaning towards BJP

The only state I am worried is Maharashatra
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