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^This LeT cell alongwith supplying forged passports to terrorists who attacked madrid may have supplied fake identity cards to kasab and the 9 terrorists who attacked mumbai

Plan was to paint this attack as hindu terror attack using those fake ID cards

Old report on recovery of fake ID cards from kasab

The anti-terror investigators have found that the arrested terrorist Mohammed Ajmal Amir was carrying a fake ID card of Arunodaya Degree college situated at Dilsukhnagar in the city, sources in police department said on Wednesday. The college is situated near the Sai Baba temple in Dilsukhnagar where a scooter bomb was exploded in 2002. The ID card recovered from the terrorist has address of the college and it is issued on the name of Naresh Verma, a resident of Nagole locality.
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?701662
LeT had also instructed terrorists to kill many US and Israeli citizens during the Mumbai terror attacks because India had good relations with these two countries and with the loss of lives, their relations with India would turn bitter, Nikam said.

"That is the reason why the terrorists wore an Indian identity by carrying fake identity cards and wearing red ribbons on wrists to give an impression they were Hindus and hide the fact that they had come from Pakistan," Nikam argued.
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And it was DCH that suggested wearing those red ribbons to as a red herring to confuse the post event investigations. I am not sure if he procured it.

I wonder if he got the idea from Rahul Bhatt's anathema towards his surroundings?

Also recall the cell phone call from the attackers to news reporters claiming to be "Deccan Mujahdeen"?
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DCH is not the brains of this operation. he is a recon asset. the brains are the two ISI psychopaths hiding in the control room plus their planning and support teams from TSPA/AF/N. there is no indication that he's a smart guy, rather someone who can be manipulated to do various things for various people and various times. another cog in the machine. we must not over focus on him, its the machine that has to be destroyed
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^ I kind of agree with what Lalmullah says..... by highlighting DCH over and over again.....we are shifting focus (unknowingly?) more on Amirkhans and moving away from ISI. Do we really want to do that? :-?
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We need to squash the bugs we find or else there will be copycats who know they can get away. And trying to bell the cat we don't protect ourselves.
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ramana wrote:We need to squash the bugs we find or else there will be copycats who know they can get away. And trying to bell the cat we don't protect ourselves.
I would prefer to keep bringing up DCH only to keep Amirkhans on backfoot regarding cashmere....A'stan.. ityaadi.
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Pak court adjourns trial of seven Mumbai suspects till Jan. 22

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Both the defence and prosecution lawyers are colluding to delay the trials under one pretext or the other. The latest is the U-turn by the prosecution in first declaring Kasab & Fahim Ansari as fugitives, then withdrawing it and now reinstating the same. Earlier, the prosecution accused one of the defence lawyers of holding a fake degree which the latter took time to refute by producing evidence, an unnecessary distraction.
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Pakistan's 26/11 probe has not moved an inch: Home Secretary GK Pillai
India today said attempt to bring the guilty in Mumbai attacks to justice “has not moved an inch” in Pakistan and hoped that country will learn from New Delhi’s “fair” handling of the Samjhauta Express blast case and punish the perpetrators of the 26/11 carnage.

Home Secretary Gopal K Pillai said “no real investigation” has taken place in Pakistan and the prosecution attempt in that country to bring the 26/11 guilty to justice “has not moved an inch” even as India’s request for providing the voice samples of the handlers of the attackers has fallen on deaf ears.

When Home Minister P Chidambaram asked for action against the 26/11 perpetrators and voice samples of handlers of the attackers during his Islamabad visit last year, his Pakistani counterpart Rehman Malik told him that “you would not be disappointed by our response“.

But, Pillai said that “seven months down the line, there is no Pakistani response. We are disappointed.”

No key person, who was actually involved in the 2008 Mumbai terror strikes or giving directions to the attackers, has been arrested. Only second or third-level conspirators were put behind the bars.

“That is not a real investigation.

“From the steps so far taken by Pakistan, we would say we are quite pessimistic because when the Home Minister was in Islamabad, the interior Minister actually told him that he would respond,” he said here.

Referring to the investigations in the 2007 Samjhauta Express blast case in which right wing Hindu activists have been arrested, Pillai said Indian government was committed to bring to justice anyone who commits terror irrespective of his religion or anything else as it considers such a person as “nothing but a criminal“.

“I think in one sense, it (the probe) shows that we are willing to be fair as far as possible.

“If somebody has done a crime, irrespective of who he is, what is his religion, we will go after him and make sure that he is punished,” he said, adding India will share information on the case with Pakistan once the probe is over.

The blast in Samjhauta Express, which runs between India and Pakistan, took place on the night of February 17, 2007 near Panipat in Haryana, leaving 68 people dead, mostly Pakistanis.

The Home Secretary said he hoped that the message goes to Pakistan, which is yet to bring the perpetrators of the Mumbai terror attack to justice, so that they also do it irrespective of who the person involved is.

Indian investigators have transcripts of the recorded conversations between the terrorists at each of the sites of the 26/11 attacks and their handlers based in Pakistan.

India has given the names, photographs and addresses of the handlers and Pakistan just need to check out their voices.

“If they give voice samples to us and if these match with what we have, then we would know that this guy was sitting in Pakistan and directing the operations in Mumbai.

“You don’t need any further proof,” Pillai said.
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But, Pillai said that “seven months down the line, there is no Pakistani response. We are disappointed.”
Pillai is very astute man. Surely, he doesn't believe he is disappointed with pakis. Well, pakis are going to be pakis, he is acutely aware of it. His disappointment mostly lies with all the aman-ki-tamasha types inside and outside the government, who continue to buy the snake oil about pakis and later inturn trying to sell the same to aam junta.
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Mumbai Terror Attacks – Needed: a mature and wise response

http://corporaterisks.info/blog/?p=842
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JwalaMukhi wrote:
But, Pillai said that “seven months down the line, there is no Pakistani response. We are disappointed.”
Pillai is very astute man. Surely, he doesn't believe he is disappointed with pakis. Well, pakis are going to be pakis, he is acutely aware of it. His disappointment mostly lies with all the aman-ki-tamasha types inside and outside the government, who continue to buy the snake oil about pakis and later inturn trying to sell the same to aam junta.
Maybe we are making the age-old BRF mistake of seeing too much Chankianness where none exists.
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nachiket wrote:Maybe we are making the age-old BRF mistake of seeing too much Chankianness where none exists.
Most of the places where BRF has seen Chankianess, it was vindicated.
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ramana wrote:And it was DCH that suggested wearing those red ribbons to as a red herring to confuse the post event investigations. I am not sure if he procured it.

I wonder if he got the idea from Rahul Bhatt's anathema towards his surroundings?
It was most likely suggested by the same INC faction led by Digvijay Singh that is propounding the theory that the RSS/Mossad/CIA committed this attack. Given the existence of TSP nuke umbrella and limited Indian options, it is not logical for TSPA/ISI/LeT to want to deflect attention if the attack was planned to bolster flagging LeT morale and prevent splintering of the group.
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Mumbai police silent on Headley's role in 26/11 attacks
If Mumbai Police is to be believed, American-born terrorist David Headley, who has confessed to conducting a recce of all 26/11 targets in the city, may have played no role in the carnage. The assessment by the Mumbai Police is reflected in its appeal before the Bombay High Court in which its elite Crime Branch is silent on the role of the Pakistan-origin LeT terrorist while contesting the acquittal of Fahim Ansari and Sabahuddin in the November 26, 2008 attack that left 166 people dead.

While the Ministry of Home Affairs burnt midnight oil over getting access to Headley after his role in the brazen attack emerged, the focus of Mumbai Police through its Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal D Nikam was that the terrorists intruded into the country's financial capital with the help of hand-written maps drawn by Ansari.
A response was also sought from Joint Commissioner of Mumbai's Crime Branch Himanshu Roy to comment on role played by Headley in 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks. However, there was no immediate response from him.
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More from Sebastian Rotella at Pro Publica on the Pakistani fomented 26/11 Islamic Terrorist attack of Mumbai:

Pakistan and the Mumbai Attacks: The Untold Story
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Tx Arun
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For linking RSS to 26/11, Aziz Burney says sorry on front page

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/For-l ... age/743433
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What the hell? His book was what triggered the Digvijay Singh outburst of inner conspiracy mind.

My take is he is now afraid INC has overplayed him as a pawn in their battles and doesnt want to be the scapegoat.
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Pioneer Op-Ed...
OPED | Wednesday, February 2, 2011 |

26/11 story takes a curious turn

February 02, 2011 12:26:55 AM

Shashi Shekhar

A lawsuit has been filed in the US against the perpetrators of the Mumbai carnage by Pakistani jihadis in which American citizens also died. It remains to be seen what happens next in the case. Meanwhile, Hafiz Saeed, the chief of Lashkar-e-Tayyeba, has demanded that the Government of Pakistan should represent him in the US courts. Which way will Islamabad decide?

While the death sentence awarded to Amir Ajmal Kasab in the 26/11 Mumbai attacks case does the rounds in the Bombay High Court, the wheels of justice on 26/11 seem to have pretty much stalled in Pakistan. Interestingly, a curious controversy has arisen in Pakistan in relation to a lawsuit filed in the US on behalf of the victims of 26/11 who were American citizens. In the dock over that lawsuit in the US are Shuja Pasha who is the head of the ISI and also Hafiz Saeed who is the head of Jamaat-ud-Dawa’h, the front organisation for the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba. In what must be seen as a mockery of the international ban on JuD and the global designation of Lashkar-e-Tayyeba as a terrorist outfit, you had Hafiz Saeed petitioning the Lahore High Court for the Pakistani state to defend him in the lawsuit that has been filed in the US.

It is anybody’s guess at this time if the lawsuit in the US would actually see either Shuja Pasha or Hafiz Saeed standing in the dock. However, the judicial activity in the US has had a side effect in the US media. ProPublica, a US based new age media outlet, has over the last few months published some of the most extensive accounts on the background events leading up to the November 26, 2008, Mumbai attacks. The details published by ProPublica are noteworthy for two reasons. They highlight the role played by ISI officers at various stages during the planning and execution of the Mumbai 26/11 attacks. Second, they also describe for the first time the key personality in Pakistan — Sajid Mir, who was handling David Headley, the American Pakistani quadruple agent who has been charged by a Federal Court in the US with coordinating the logistics for the 26/11 Mumbai attacks.

ProPublica’s profile of Sajid Mir is significant for a variety of reasons. Before the Headley arrests in 2009, little was known of Sajid Mir beyond the scanty revelations by a French court in a case involving a Lashkar-e-Tayyeba recruit, Willie Brigette. Before the Headley arrests much of the Indian narrative on key Lashkar-e-Tayyeba personnel was limited to two kinds of profiles. The first was of individuals who were above the ground and identified publicly like Hafiz Saeed and Abdul Rehman Lakhvi. The second kind was of individuals who were known mostly by what appear to be aliases with no details of their real identity. These aliases included amongst others most notably Azam Cheema, Abu Al Qama and Yusuf Muzammil. The name Sajid Mir was mostly absent in the Indian narrative on key Lashkar-e-Tayyeba personnel.

ProPublica describes Sajid Mir to have born sometime in the mid to late-1970s. He is also described as having been born of an Indian Muslim who migrated to Pakistan. Sajid Mir is believed to have spent his formative years in West Asia and to have taken to militancy during his late teens. The profile in ProPublica is quite indepth on Sajid Mir’s role in the planning of 26/11 and on the events after 26/11 leading up to David Headley’s arrest. It describes his various aliases as Abu Bara (Father of Bara), Uncle Bill, Sajid Bill, Wassi and Ibrahim. A recurring question through ProPublica’s account on Sajid Mir is the ambiguity on whether he was an ISI officer and consequently a Major in the Pakistan Army.

There is, however, an intriguing gap in ProPublica’s narrative on Sajid Mir from the time of his initiation in to the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba at the age of 16 to the events after 9/11 when he began recruiting foreigners for the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba. The ProPublica report talks of an undated arrest of Sajid Mir by the Dubai police and a subsequent thanks to an intervention by the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba. ProPublica also quotes a report compiled by India’s National Investigation Agency of the Headley interrogation that Sajid Mir was born in Lahore and had two brothers and two sisters.

The reference by ProPublica to the arrest in Dubai is intriguing for the parallels with another narrative of a similar arrest in Dubai and a subsequent release after Lashkar-e-Tayyeba intervention.

On May 20, 2003, the Indian Express in New Delhi carried a story by Tushar Srivastava titled ‘Ansari wanted to eliminate Delhi ACPs’. The story was about Aftab Ansari who is currently on death row in India for the 2002 terrorist attack on the American Center in Kolkota. In that story Aftab Ansari who was then in prison in Kolkota was accused of having sent SMSs to his associates in Dubai directing them to carry out targeted assassinations of specific Delhi Police officers. In the same story is an account of an arrest in Dubai of Aftab Ansari’s brother-in-law Tahir by the Dubai Police. Aftab Ansari is quoted in that story as having told interrogators that his brother-in-law Tahir was subsequently released by Dubai Police after an intervention by Lashkar-e-Tayyeba’s Azam Cheema upon the payment of a certain sum of money.

Little is known of Aftab Ansari’s brother-in-law Tahir beyond two scanty reports and several stray references to him. The most definitive account of Tahir comes from a story in The Hindu dated September 21, 2008 by Praveen Swami titled ‘Indian Mujahideen linked to organised crime’. In this story are details of how Aftab Ansari travelled to Pakistan on a fake passport after his release bail from Tihar Jail in the late 1990s. Aftab Ansari is described as having married a Pakistani Citizen whose brother Tahir it is said was with Ansari in Tihar Jail on terrorism related charges in Jammu & Kashmir. Other stray media references to Ansari’s matrimony and Tahir refer to Ansari’s wife being based in Karachi, her family’s base in Rawalpindi, her brother Tahir as Aftab Ansari’s cell mate during the 1990s. Praveen Swami also writing in The Hindu on Aftab Ansari’s arrest in 2002 had referred to his brother-in-law Tahir as serving time in Tihar, in the present tense.

It cannot be definitively said if Sajid Mir of 26/11 was Aftab Ansari’s brother-in-law Tahir who participated in jihad in Jammu & Kashmir during the 1990s. However the Karachi Project has always been described as the ISI’s project to leverage underworld elements of Indian origin based in Karachi. No individual signifies the nexus between the underworld, ISI sponsored Islamist terror and Indian origin terrorist outfits better than Aftab Ansari. Amir Raza Khan, who has been described as Indian Mujahideen’s point man in Pakistan, was closely associated with Aftab Ansari. If indeed the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba’s Sajid Mir is Ansari’s brother-in-law, it could complete the picture on the Karachi Project.

As ProPublica concludes, it is likely none of those who really sponsored 26/11 will ever be brought to justice. But it is important to know the whole truth. It is unfortunate that to date the most extensive accounts of the background events to 26/11 come from the American media. A full accounting of all the facts related to Pakistan sponsored Islamist terror events in India must come from the Indian state. It is never too late for a commission along the lines of the 9/11 Commission to go into 26/11 and all the events leading up to it. The partisan political atmosphere in New Delhi, however, does not offer much hope of that happening anytime soon.
So DCH and Ind Muj are linked!
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Iftikhar Chaudhary in Hyderabad today, to update on 26/11 trial in Pak

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Iftik ... Pak/745789
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One is reminded of the promises made by Pres. Zardari and then Rehman Malik before the Sharm-el-Sheikh meeting. This Iftikhar Chaudhry's update to India to 'assuage concerns' is another gimmickry. I am sure India will once again fall for the bait.
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26/11 Case: Pakistan court adjourns trial till Feb. 17
A Pakistani anti-terrorism court on Friday adjourned the trial of LeT's Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and six others charged with involvement in the Mumbai attacks till February 17 after prosecutors sought more time for the Lahore High Court to decide on a related petition.

The prosecution team told anti-terrorism court judge Rana Nisar Ahmed that more time was needed for the high court to decide on its plea to declare lone surviving Mumbai attacker Ajmal Kasab and terror suspect Fahim Ansari as "proclaimed offenders" or fugitives.

The Federal Investigation Agency's plea was listed for hearing by the high court Thursday but could not be taken up as the bench handling the petition was dissolved following the retirement of a judge.

The high court is expected to notify a new bench to take up the matter.


Judge Ahmed expressed concern at the delay caused by the FIA's petition in the high court and observed that there should not be any further delays, sources said.

The judge then adjourned proceedings in the anti-terrorism court till February 17.

The FIA's petition asks the high court to declare Kasab and Ansari as proclaimed offenders, to issue non-bailable warrants for them and to de-link their trial from that of the seven Pakistani suspects.
See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan
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by sending muhammad ajmal kasab to mumbai and get injured, hafiz sayed has caused injury to a representation of the prophet... therefore he is a blasphemer
what is the punishment for that again?
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Efforts on to take 26/11 trial in Pak forward: Rao

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Effor ... Rao/746343
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abhishek_sharma wrote:For linking RSS to 26/11, Aziz Burney says sorry on front page

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/For-l ... age/743433
This is pure taqiya. The damage has been done.
Cases have been filed against him and diggy raja.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aryasamaj ... sage/16123
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Aziz Burney <burneyazizburney@...>
Date: 28 January 2011 21:45
Subject: Letter for apology
To: Vinay Joshi <murdikar@...>

Dear Mr.Vinay Joshi,

Since last two years I am writing various articles regarding 26/11 Mumbai terror attack.You had filed court suit against me and Sahara Publications in Navi Mumbai court for my articles regarding Mumbai attack.I never wrote anything to deliberately hurt the feelings of anyone.But if you are disturbed or hurt due to any article or anything I quoted in my article,then I am extremely sorry for this.Hope you would accept my apology.

Also I am requesting you for the immediate withdrawal of court case filed against me in Navi Mumbai court,as it is creating professional difficulties for me and I cannot afford to bear cost of litigation.I never intended to target India's security apparatus and any patriotic organisation working in India.but if there are any references made in my articles by mistake then I am really sorry for that.I assure you that I will not write anything in future that may hurt anyone and I will take utmost care for the same.Expecting quick withdrawal of court case once again.
Two senior political leaders Sh Digvijay Singh, General secretary of the Congress Party and Deputy Chairman of Rajya Sabha K Rahman Khan were present in the release function and they patted Burney for his ‘brave’ writings
even the wkk mahesh butt was present. None of these worthies had the courage to refute this.
His website http://www.azizburney.com/
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^^^^
more info on the issue
http://indiapolicyfoundation.org/aziz-b ... s-writings
“My article which I quoted in my series of write ups titled “26/11 the biggest attack in the history of India” was written after the release of the book. The article carries the caption “Hafiz Saeed is our culprit, hand him over to us.” I am neither connecting RSS to the 26/11 attack nor weakening India’s position through my write up published in the Roznama Rashtriya Sahara on 17th December, 2010. Through this article, I don’t intend either to put allegation on anyone or hurt anyone’s sentiments. I never intended to allege anyone through my series of articles. If my writings have hurt sentiments of countrymen, I tender my apology for the same. And if need be I am prepared to change the title of my book. As a citizen of the country, I apologise for the mistakes committed on my part. In future, I will be cautious in my writings in future so that no one’s sentiments hurt. I was only trying to put my thoughts across the readers through my write up. Owning the responsibilities for the inconveniences caused to the patriots and countrymen knowingly or unknowingly by my thoughts, I apologize from the core of my heart.“

(Rashtriya sahara, 28/1/2011, Front Page)
look he is not changing the contents of the book but willing to.
meanwhile one of the comments,
Syed Asdar Ali ([email protected]) wrote on 28 January, 2011, 18:28

Aziz Burney, who tendered his apology to the nation, is not keen to
the fact what he wrote in his book ’26/11, RSS ki Saazish.’ I doubt
on his apology as i think it is his game plan to return to his job at
Sahara.

It is worth mentioning here that Sahara Media did ask Burney to move
on forced leave. Though, the action of Sahara against Burney is really
encouraging, but it should also make it sure that Burney may not be
allowed to return to his work at Sahara as he did hurt the sentiments
of millions of people in India through his malicious and concocted
writings. The people of India is very angry with the writings of
Burney. And his blunder is in no way excusable.


While, seeking an apology, he described his writings as a mistake. Can
this kind of blunder be expected from a person enjoying the position
of Group Editor? Is he a small kid, who fails to realize the
significance of such a serious issue of national concern? Why he
failed to realize his blunder when he was in the process of completing
his controversial book?

Burney’s book also made a serious charge on Intelligence Bureau and
Investigating agencies probing terror attacks. His writing was
nothing, but to weaken the nation’s fight against terrorism, so he
should not be excused.
As he can not compensate the damage he has done
to the nation and its secular democracy through his book which is a
bunch of false propaganda against nation.

Why he noticed this blunder, when i demanded a probe against Burney?
It exposed the lies and drama of Burney.

Will Digvijay Singh follow Aziz Burney and apologise for patting
Burney for such nasty and anti national writings? Digvijay Singh
should clarify his stand now. Why he supported Burney and his book,
which was totally misguiding and divisive? Burney tried to divide the
nation on communal lines, which was thwarted in one voice. But
Digvijay was always seen patting Burney everywhere. Now, when Burney
has tendered his apology, will Digvijay take the responsibility of
Burney’s writings?

Syed Asdar Ali.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Pakistan won't allow NIA team to quiz 26/11 masterminds

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 165232.ece
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From the above,
It said Pakistan's request to send a commission to India could not be equated with the Indian plea, as Islamabad had sent the request after a court proceeding. Islamabad also told New Delhi that there was no Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty {MLAT} between the two countries that could have facilitated the acceptance of such a request.
This argument about MLAT is rather disingenuous, as usual. In the April 2007 SAARC Summit at New Delhi, Pakistan was the only country that did not want an “extradition clause” in the regional Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) in Criminal Matters that was proposed to fight terror. Even earlier, Pakistan had reservations about the MLAT. The MLAT was finally agreed upon in the 15th SAARC meet at Colombo in c. 2008, but even by c. 2011, Pakistan had not ratified it and so it is not in force. Even after this, there is no consensus on participation by the requesting parties’ security officers in evidence-taking or on extradition which has to be only through bilateral treaties still. It was at India’s initiative at the 14th SAARC summit in New Delhi that it was decided to draft a MLAT before the next summit. Even then, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri strongly differed on the idea of including terrorism and extradition in a multilateral treaty demanding that they be negotiated bilaterally between member countries instead. But, at a bilateral level, the mechanism established at the Additional-Secretary level on counter-terrorism, JATM (Joint Anti Terror Mechanism) after the 7/11 Mumbai commuter train bombings, has not yielded any results at all. Pakistan has little incentive to make these proposals work. The Pakistani diplomats, in complete violation of Geneva conventions, have directly supported terrorism against both India and Afghanistan. Thus, the Pakistani approach to taking action against the terrorists is very selective. For similar reasons, it is also protecting some of the killers of Bangabandhu Sheik Mujibur Rehman eventhough they have been convicted of the assassination and awarded capital punishment in Bangladesh.
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SSridhar wrote: This argument about MLAT is rather disingenuous, as usual. In the April 2007 SAARC Summit at New Delhi, Pakistan was the only country that did not want an “extradition clause” in the regional Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) in Criminal Matters that was proposed to fight terror. Even earlier, Pakistan had reservations about the MLAT. The MLAT was finally agreed upon in the 15th SAARC meet at Colombo in c. 2008, but even by c. 2011, Pakistan had not ratified it and so it is not in force. Even after this, there is no consensus on participation by the requesting parties’ security officers in evidence-taking or on extradition which has to be only through bilateral treaties still. It was at India’s initiative at the 14th SAARC summit in New Delhi that it was decided to draft a MLAT before the next summit. Even then, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri strongly differed on the idea of including terrorism and extradition in a multilateral treaty demanding that they be negotiated bilaterally between member countries instead. But, at a bilateral level, the mechanism established at the Additional-Secretary level on counter-terrorism, JATM (Joint Anti Terror Mechanism) after the 7/11 Mumbai commuter train bombings, has not yielded any results at all. Pakistan has little incentive to make these proposals work. The Pakistani diplomats, in complete violation of Geneva conventions, have directly supported terrorism against both India and Afghanistan. Thus, the Pakistani approach to taking action against the terrorists is very selective. For similar reasons, it is also protecting some of the killers of Bangabandhu Sheik Mujibur Rehman eventhough they have been convicted of the assassination and awarded capital punishment in Bangladesh.
So Pakis (including Kasuri) were blocking these efforts to cooperate on terrorism and we were continuing the composite dialogue with them? And now we are listening to Kasuri talk about agreement on J&K. :roll:

Are we retarded?
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Breaking News in Times Now Channel.

Ms. Clinton calls off talks with Quereshi in Munich over the Raymond Davis affair. The US also demands apology from Pakistan over the detention and demands immediate release.
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However they want India to keep talking to TSP!
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India-Pak to work on 'law of comity' for 26/11 probe

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-Pak ... 60137.aspx
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ramana wrote:However they want India to keep talking to TSP!
Can we ask Hilary to show restraint and not fall prey to hawkish elements on both sides? 8)
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Weird TOI report from long time ago. I guess its about David Headley

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shravan wrote:X-post
Pranav wrote:Was London bombing accused a US informer? - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/was-l ... r/749854/0

An American national who trained the July 7 London bombers in Pakistan, has been quietly released before his jail term is over, raising questions whether he was a US informer, a media report today said.

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See also The al-Qaida supergrass and the 7/7 questions that remain unanswered - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/1 ... -questions

Not a surprise.
Going by the precedent of Mohammed Junaid Babar, Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist linked to the London 7/7 bombings who was released by the US after serving a scant 4.5 years of a 70 year sentence, I wonder how short a sentence Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist linked to the Mumbai 26/11 attack, Syed Daood Gilani aka David Coleman Headley will actually be made to serve by the US.

I suspect that the sentence will not be very long :x .
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How is that a warning when its the intent?
8)
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Reason: Abhishek, updated your post with the 'Chronology'
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