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Chavan unhappy with acquittal of two Indian accused in 26/11 case
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 476955.ece
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 476955.ece
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BREAKING NEWS:
Mumbai High court confirms Death Penalty for Kasab, says that the victims of 26/11 will not get justice unless the sentence is implemented soon. Kasab's defense team had appealed in the end to convert the sentence to life imprisonment arguing that if Kasab is hanged, he will become a martyr of the terrorists and will result in further recruitment in Pakistan.
The court releases Fahim Ansari, and Salauddin in the case of them providing LET maps of the area. But here is the interesting bit.
The trail court had refused to accept the evidence put forward by the police saying that the evidence was suspect. The high court today accepted the validity of the evidence presented, but said that it still did not corroborate with the two of them being involved. So that is one step forward from the prosecution's pov.
The state of maharashtra has vowed to appeal the acquittal of the two in the supreme court.
On Zee TV they had Justice Sodhi from the Supreme court as a guest. His opinion was that if the supreme court revisits the case against the two acquitted in this case, and they make an observation on Kasab's sentence / case, it will have a bearing on Kasab's case also and his sentence might get delayed. He said that the the entire judgement is taken as a composite (Kasab's death sentence and the acquittal of the two) and revisiting a part of the sentence means that the other part might also be open for argument.
So some more delay in Kasab's hanging.
BTW again a very interesting discussion of Times Now with Arnab Goswami.
Mumbai High court confirms Death Penalty for Kasab, says that the victims of 26/11 will not get justice unless the sentence is implemented soon. Kasab's defense team had appealed in the end to convert the sentence to life imprisonment arguing that if Kasab is hanged, he will become a martyr of the terrorists and will result in further recruitment in Pakistan.
The court releases Fahim Ansari, and Salauddin in the case of them providing LET maps of the area. But here is the interesting bit.
The trail court had refused to accept the evidence put forward by the police saying that the evidence was suspect. The high court today accepted the validity of the evidence presented, but said that it still did not corroborate with the two of them being involved. So that is one step forward from the prosecution's pov.
The state of maharashtra has vowed to appeal the acquittal of the two in the supreme court.
On Zee TV they had Justice Sodhi from the Supreme court as a guest. His opinion was that if the supreme court revisits the case against the two acquitted in this case, and they make an observation on Kasab's sentence / case, it will have a bearing on Kasab's case also and his sentence might get delayed. He said that the the entire judgement is taken as a composite (Kasab's death sentence and the acquittal of the two) and revisiting a part of the sentence means that the other part might also be open for argument.
So some more delay in Kasab's hanging.
BTW again a very interesting discussion of Times Now with Arnab Goswami.
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K-sab might decide to go to SC in appeal. Govt has decided to go in for appeal against acquittal of other two. Hence matter is still open. Once it attains finality in SC after all judicial recourse is exhausted he might again appeal for mercy. Then as I am given to understand in another famous case and as clarified by top babu sri lungimaster ji his turn will come once all prior cases are decided. Hence biryani wala is ready to feed more halal biryani at govt expense courtesy Con party. Law must take its own course. Kanoon ke hath bahut lambe hain.
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Watching discussion on Times Now conducted by Arnab Goswami, its very clear that this United Pseudo-secular Alliance has put India at tight spot.Everytime any point is made by indian panelists on slow progress of 26/11 trial in pakistan the response of the baki(one diplomat described as a friend in karachi by shobha de) is like what about smajhauta blast? it is going on for 4-5 years and and Indian leader who conducted mass murder of mooslims in one state is still at large... anyways rebutted well by Arnab and Kirron kher
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saw some new CCTV footage revealed by TimesNow. In one of the footage(Trident it seems) it can be seen that the four buggers went into one room through the lobby and soon are followed by commandoes(Army??) and then there is exchange of fire between them for a few minutes and that happened on 26th itself. If the contact was made and the buggers were cornered how come they escaped and it took so long to neutrilize them?
They were playing the footage yesterday on TV but can't find it anywhere in the site.
They were playing the footage yesterday on TV but can't find it anywhere in the site.
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The problem is also that the secularists have not allowed the channel 4 documentary with the actual conversations between the terrorists and their handlers to be telecast in India. Because they were taking allah's name all the time people feared that there will be polarization or riots.
D-uh!
Now the mango people only know that one Kasab is a bad guy and he must be hanged and that's it.
No one knows that there are people who were directing the whole thing, forcing the terrorists to kill more people, forcing the terrorists to kill the commandos, to take hostages etc etc.
Those people are out of sight and out of mind for the aam Indian. They are faceless, nameless, and I know that there is a conspiracy on the part of the government to keep it that way, because it exposes the government's impotence.
D-uh!
Now the mango people only know that one Kasab is a bad guy and he must be hanged and that's it.
No one knows that there are people who were directing the whole thing, forcing the terrorists to kill more people, forcing the terrorists to kill the commandos, to take hostages etc etc.
Those people are out of sight and out of mind for the aam Indian. They are faceless, nameless, and I know that there is a conspiracy on the part of the government to keep it that way, because it exposes the government's impotence.
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Further that there is a rounding off of the blame of the terrorist attacks.
People say, and I've seen on TV today on Arnab's show too, that "PAKISTAN" is being blamed.
D-uh! PAKISTAN who?
Who in Pakistan specifically, I ask.
Does GoI have the balls to say that the ISI did it and that Kiyani and Pasha ordered it? I know GoI will NEVER say that.
But does our media not even have the balls to start to 'speculate' along these lines?
Things in Pakistan will not move unless Kiyani and Pasha are not directly implicated in this. Once they are, the 7 people 'loosely detained' in Adiala Jail (Of which Zaki-ur-rehman-laknvi conveniently moves in and out of jail as he pleases with his ISI detail, and a few of the 7 are actually surrogates in place of the real perpetrators) will be sentenced speedily, one hopes to save kiya-pasha's arses.
But GoI will never push the matter in the interests of aman ki asha.
People say, and I've seen on TV today on Arnab's show too, that "PAKISTAN" is being blamed.
D-uh! PAKISTAN who?
Who in Pakistan specifically, I ask.
Does GoI have the balls to say that the ISI did it and that Kiyani and Pasha ordered it? I know GoI will NEVER say that.
But does our media not even have the balls to start to 'speculate' along these lines?
Things in Pakistan will not move unless Kiyani and Pasha are not directly implicated in this. Once they are, the 7 people 'loosely detained' in Adiala Jail (Of which Zaki-ur-rehman-laknvi conveniently moves in and out of jail as he pleases with his ISI detail, and a few of the 7 are actually surrogates in place of the real perpetrators) will be sentenced speedily, one hopes to save kiya-pasha's arses.
But GoI will never push the matter in the interests of aman ki asha.
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i found the link
http://videos.oneindia.in/watch/36556/u ... ttack.html
watch from 2:34 as the commandoes exchage fire with the terrorists.
starting from 2:20 it can be seen that one of the terrorist was limping and without any footwear. and I correct myself this was captured by cctv at Taj and not Trident.
http://videos.oneindia.in/watch/36556/u ... ttack.html
watch from 2:34 as the commandoes exchage fire with the terrorists.
starting from 2:20 it can be seen that one of the terrorist was limping and without any footwear. and I correct myself this was captured by cctv at Taj and not Trident.
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Gagan, apart from the likely delay in the Supreme Court, the fear I have is with the mercy petition that Kasab may file with our President Ms. Pratibha Patil. She has so far decided in favour of the convicts on all mercy petitions because of what is rumoured to be her convictions on the State killing anyone. Then, we also have the serial order in which the Home Ministry says it will forward the petitions to the President.Gagan wrote:So some more delay in Kasab's hanging.
There may therefore be a *considerable delay* in hanging Kasab.
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:facepalm:SSridhar wrote: Gagan, apart from the likely delay in the Supreme Court, the fear I have is with the mercy petition that Kasab may file with our President Ms. Pratibha Patil. She has so far decided in favour of the convicts on all mercy petitions because of what is rumoured to be her convictions on the State killing anyone
Forget Kasab, now I sincerely hope that even Afzal's case is not forwarded to her by the MHA. Justice will have to wait till we get a new president.
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I hope Maharastra does not appeal the HC verdict for those two guys. Its important to get Kasab.
The political aspect of the TSP origin terrorist activity is that local Indian connections will be used to confuse the issue. Its improtant that the Paki orgin terrorists are taken to task. Combining Indian supporters with the terrorists will lead to local fallout. The best option is to keep Afzal Guru in deep freeze and carry out the sentence on Kasab. And for Indian police to not link up cases if they want to have justice carried out.
BTW, I think Mumbai high society (not just filmi folks)was also inadvertently part of the 26/11 recce by DCH and his cohorts Rahul Butt and that trainer guy.
The political aspect of the TSP origin terrorist activity is that local Indian connections will be used to confuse the issue. Its improtant that the Paki orgin terrorists are taken to task. Combining Indian supporters with the terrorists will lead to local fallout. The best option is to keep Afzal Guru in deep freeze and carry out the sentence on Kasab. And for Indian police to not link up cases if they want to have justice carried out.
BTW, I think Mumbai high society (not just filmi folks)was also inadvertently part of the 26/11 recce by DCH and his cohorts Rahul Butt and that trainer guy.
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No volunteers for Force One
Once the dust settles down after the usual fanfare of raising a new commando force after every big attack, the seriousness of the politicos is laid bare.
Force One woes are unending:
- Lack of clear mandate for operations intially and subsequently diluting it to include VIP security
- Lack of weapons promised to them. Still making do mostly with borrowed weapons.
- Lack of training centre and base. They are still not able to get the allotted land cleared for construction. Only portion is ready for construction. Rest is 'encroached'.
- Lack of proper exposure and 'battle innoculation'. There has hardly been any joint exercise/training with others viz, NSG, Greyhounds, TNCF etc.
- Lastly and more recently, lack of volunteers to staff the force. In fact, the vacancies are at the officer level. Afsars don't want to leave their lucrative regular job to slog here.
With all this, we can very soon expect the force to die a natural death like the commando force nearly a decade ago or become a showpiece to be displayed every Jan 26th, May 1st, Aug 15th (and Nov 26th, till it remains in the public memory). Nary a soul will give a sh1t about it like we did before and things will be back to normal till the next 26/11.
Surely we deserve to be attacked
Once the dust settles down after the usual fanfare of raising a new commando force after every big attack, the seriousness of the politicos is laid bare.
Force One woes are unending:
- Lack of clear mandate for operations intially and subsequently diluting it to include VIP security
- Lack of weapons promised to them. Still making do mostly with borrowed weapons.
- Lack of training centre and base. They are still not able to get the allotted land cleared for construction. Only portion is ready for construction. Rest is 'encroached'.
- Lack of proper exposure and 'battle innoculation'. There has hardly been any joint exercise/training with others viz, NSG, Greyhounds, TNCF etc.
- Lastly and more recently, lack of volunteers to staff the force. In fact, the vacancies are at the officer level. Afsars don't want to leave their lucrative regular job to slog here.
With all this, we can very soon expect the force to die a natural death like the commando force nearly a decade ago or become a showpiece to be displayed every Jan 26th, May 1st, Aug 15th (and Nov 26th, till it remains in the public memory). Nary a soul will give a sh1t about it like we did before and things will be back to normal till the next 26/11.
Surely we deserve to be attacked
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Suhel Seth was on Times Now today and what he said, I am reproducing here.
He said that even if Kasab's sentence is confirmed by the Supreme Court, he wondered if Pratibha Patil will find time from admiring the roses in the Presidential mughal gardens to even look at the petition.
There are several people including P Chidambaram who have said that the death sentence will be too easy on a guy like Kasab.
He said that even if Kasab's sentence is confirmed by the Supreme Court, he wondered if Pratibha Patil will find time from admiring the roses in the Presidential mughal gardens to even look at the petition.
There are several people including P Chidambaram who have said that the death sentence will be too easy on a guy like Kasab.
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The Balance Sheet and how it weighs against Kasab
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-b ... ab/752989/
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-b ... ab/752989/
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Pak court adjourns 26/11 case until March 5
See here for a chronology of court drama in PakistanA Pakistani court on Saturday adjourned till March 5 the trial of LeT’s Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and six other suspects charged with involvement in the Mumbai attacks after hearing arguments by defence and prosecution lawyers on a move to declare Ajmal Kasab and Fahim Ansari as fugitives.
Prosecutors from the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) renewed their request to the Rawalpindi-based anti-terrorism court to declare Kasab, the lone surviving attacker, and terror suspect Ansari as “proclaimed offenders” or fugitives and issue arrest warrants for them.
The prosecutors had initially filed the request in May last year.
They were forced to withdraw a petition on the same issue in the Rawalpindi bench of the Lahore High Court on Thursday after a bench observed that Kasab and Ansari were not wilfully absconding and could not be declared fugitives.
The High Court also asked the prosecutors to take up the issue with the anti-terrorism court.
During Saturday’s proceedings conducted by Judge Rana Nisar Ahmed, lawyers defending the seven suspects filed an application in which they sought the start of trial proceedings and recording of evidence against the accused.
The application said the trial proceedings should start as soon as possible after the anti-terrorism court gave its verdict on the prosecution’s request to declare Kasab and Ansari as fugitives.
The application was filed under section 403 of the Code of Criminal Procedure and Article 13 of the Constitution.
Both provisions state that no person can be prosecuted or punished for the same offence more than once.
Khwaja Sultan, the lawyer for Lashker-e-Taiba operations commander Lakhvi, told the judge that an Indian court had already given a verdict against Kasab and he could not be tried twice for the same crime.
Mr. Sultan argued that if the issue of declaring Kasab and Ansari as fugitives dominates proceedings in the anti-terrorism case, the case would never end.
After hearing arguments from both sides, Judge Ahmed adjourned the case till March 5.
The trial of the seven Pakistani suspects, a majority of them LeT operatives, has been marred by repeated delays over technical matters.
The judge has been changed thrice and only one of the more than 160 prosecution witnesses has testified so far. {So much for the promise made by Makhdoom Shah Mahmood Qureshi to SM Krishna in New York in September 2009. He said the trial would start in right earnest from October 3, 2009 !!}
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Kasab must not be hanged until the local connections to this attack are investigated. When the Congress braintrust goes on the attack with conspiracy theories seeking to deflect blame onto agencies as, there is some intent behind that. Being the sole surviving attacker, he may change his mind and provide some information at a later date.Gagan wrote:So some more delay in Kasab's hanging.
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Congratulations, time to find the real perpetrators of Mumbai V attacks
Govt to allow Pak's 26/11 panel to visit India
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/govt-to-allo ... 768-3.html
Govt to allow Pak's 26/11 panel to visit India
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/govt-to-allo ... 768-3.html
Our unwavering faith in the ability of the UPA govt to deliver justice to wronged Indians bears fruit."We just agreed to allow a commission to come to India to record the evidence of the Investigating Officer, the Magistrate, who recorded the statements, and some doctors, who conducted the post mortem. We are awaiting a reply to our questions," Chidambaram said.
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^^ Very soon we might find out it was the work of Yindoo fundoos who employed Kasab , who thought he was working for LET, which is nothing but RSS in a different avatar.
Added later: Does my post makes sense? NO. But so does UPA's policies. Yatha raja thatha praja
Added later: Does my post makes sense? NO. But so does UPA's policies. Yatha raja thatha praja
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Wah, Aman ki Asha in full flow.Sanku wrote:Congratulations, time to find the real perpetrators of Mumbai V attacks
Govt to allow Pak's 26/11 panel to visit India
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/govt-to-allo ... 768-3.html
Our unwavering faith in the ability of the UPA govt to deliver justice to wronged Indians bears fruit."We just agreed to allow a commission to come to India to record the evidence of the Investigating Officer, the Magistrate, who recorded the statements, and some doctors, who conducted the post mortem. We are awaiting a reply to our questions," Chidambaram said.
Why not have a chai biskoot session between Nikam and Lahore HC chief prosecutor and also the Mumbai commissioner and Lahore/Pindi police commissioner ( with US amby of both Pak and India as mediator) just to ensure there are no misgivings ?
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Our unwavering faith in the ability of the UPA govt to deliver justice to wronged Indians bears fruit./quote]sum wrote:quote="Sanku"]Congratulations, time to find the real perpetrators of Mumbai V attacks
Govt to allow Pak's 26/11 panel to visit India
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/govt-to-allo ... 768-3.html
quote]"We just agreed to allow a commission to come to India to record the evidence of the Investigating Officer, the Magistrate, who recorded the statements, and some doctors, who conducted the post mortem. We are awaiting a reply to our questions," Chidambaram said.
Wah, Aman ki Asha in full flow.
Why not have a chai biskoot session between Nikam and Lahore HC chief prosecutor and also the Mumbai commissioner and Lahore/Pindi police commissioner ( with US amby of both Pak and India as mediator) just to ensure there are no misgivings ?[/quote]
Yes, Before anyone else says this let me the First person here to say what a brilliant Chanayaka Move by MMS. SES etc has bourne fruit.
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Report that the US is going subvert the course of justice for Indian’s by granting sovereign immunity to ISI head in the 26/11 court case launched in the US in return for the release of US “Diplomat” “Raymond Davis”.
While the US will have no compunctions of selling Indian’s down the river by offering such a deal, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan would be stupid to accept the bargain if such is indeed the case as it is very unlikely that the US will ever get to have custody of the ISI head who will no doubt remain safely within the borders of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
Mumbai attack: US links cover for ISI chief to Davis case
While the US will have no compunctions of selling Indian’s down the river by offering such a deal, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan would be stupid to accept the bargain if such is indeed the case as it is very unlikely that the US will ever get to have custody of the ISI head who will no doubt remain safely within the borders of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
Mumbai attack: US links cover for ISI chief to Davis case
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I am only reminded of the techniques used in a chess game where multiple fortifications are made. Haqqanis & Hekmatyar, logistics through Karachi port, TTP, safe houses for Al Qaeda, protection to Quetta Shura, attacks on NATO convoys etc. from the Pakistani side. Large-scale funding, cash bribes to generals, military equipment, promise to pressurize India, support through IMF/WB/ADB etc. by the Americans in return. Now, Raymond Davis gets added to the Pakistani list, for which the Americans respond with the litigation in Manhattan. Another episode in the mega serial running for 60 years now.
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Pakistan court adjourns 26/11 trial to March 19.
See here for a chronology of court drama in PakistanA Pakistani court on Saturday adjourned till March 19 the trial of Lashkar-e-Tayiba commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and six other suspects charged with involvement in the 26/11 Mumbai attacks after prosecution lawyers boycotted proceedings when they were not allowed to take their security details into the makeshift courtroom in a heavily guarded prison.
The prosecution team went to Rawalpindi's Adiala Jail, where the proceedings are being conducted behind closed doors for security reasons, with its paramilitary guards. However, prison officials said regulations did not allow the armed escort to go into the jail, sources told PTI.
The prison officials said security had been further tightened at the jail as proceedings in two more high-profile cases related to the assassinations of former premier Benazir Bhutto and Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer were scheduled for Saturday, the sources said.
The prosecution lawyers then boycotted the trial and left the prison, the sources said. As a result, there were no proceedings on Saturday and Judge
Rana Nisar Ahmed adjourned the case till March 19. The judge is expected to hear arguments on an application filed by the prosecution to declare Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving attacker, and Fahim Ansari, an alleged Indian operative in the 26/11 case, as "proclaimed offenders" or fugitives at the next hearing.
It is also expected to take up another application filed by defence lawyers to oppose the prosecution's application.
The trial of the seven Pakistani suspects has been marred by repeated delays over technical matters. The judge has been changed thrice and only one of more than 160 prosecution witnesses has testified so far.
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Has anyone read this .. 99cents for kindle edition. Just started reading nothing new than what has already been discussed but atleastits published
Pakistan and the Mumbai Attacks: The Untold Story (Kindle Single)
Pakistan and the Mumbai Attacks: The Untold Story (Kindle Single)
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It is also freely available to read at Pakistan and the Mumbai Attacks: The Untold Story - by Sebastian Rotella - ProPublica, Jan. 26, 2011, 9 a.mRampy wrote:Has anyone read this .. 99cents for kindle edition. Just started reading nothing new than what has already been discussed but atleastits published
Pakistan and the Mumbai Attacks: The Untold Story (Kindle Single)
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Does the concept of Solitary confinment not exist in India?
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/sente ... rate-90496
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/sente ... rate-90496
Why are guards allowed to talk to him! so much for a disciplined watch over a terrorist"Kasab does exercise and practises karate sometimes to kill his time. He also often strikes a conversation with the security guards deployed there to guard him round the clock," said a jail official.
"Security guards avoid speaking to him. He enquires where they are from, for how long they were associated with security agencies and so on....,"
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^^Ideally every day, Kasab should be locked up inside a tin box with little ventilation kept outside in the sun for most of the day, like what they show in movies sometimes. No exercise, no chance to speak to any living soul except perhaps the rats in his cell. Make his life a living hell and then give him some rope. We won't have to worry about his mercy petition not being forwarded to the Rashtrapati or the poojya Rashtrapati actually thinking of commuting his sentence.
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Once Kasab gets his 72, 26/11 will fade from public memory till the next one happens.
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^^Not sure about the public memory, but hasn't it already faded from the govt.'s memory? The restart of talks with TSP clearly tells us so.
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From the above,abhishek_sharma wrote:Pak says no to Indian investigators: Report
Oh, yes. Pakistan is, as usual, correct.“There is no law under which we could allow the Indian investigators to grill the seven accused, who are already in judicial custody,” the Dawn quoted a senior unnamed Interior Ministry official as saying.
Sources said Islamabad has also pointed out that since there was no Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty between the two countries, the Indian request could not be accepted.
While it has extradited hundreds of terror suspects to the US and hunted down those Uyghurs operating against Chinese interests, it does not wish to extend the same support to India or Afghanistan. In the April 2007 SAARC Summit at New Delhi, Pakistan was the only country that did not want an “extradition clause” in the regional Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) in Criminal Matters that was proposed to fight terror. Even earlier, Pakistan had reservations about the MLAT. The MLAT was finally agreed upon in the 15th SAARC meet at Colombo in c. 2008, but even by c. 2011, Pakistan had not ratified it and so it is not in force. Even if MLAT is ratified, Pakistan does not want participation by the requesting parties’ security officers in evidence-taking or on extradition which has to be only through bilateral treaties still. It was at India’s initiative at the 14th SAARC summit in New Delhi that it was decided to draft a MLAT before the next summit. Even then, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri strongly differed on the idea of including terrorism and extradition in a multilateral treaty demanding that they be negotiated bilaterally between member countries instead. But, at a bilateral level, the mechanism established at the Additional-Secretary level on counter-terrorism, JATM (Joint Anti Terror Mechanism) between India and Pakistan, after the 7/11 Mumbai commuter train bombings, has not yielded any results at all. Pakistan has little incentive to make these proposals work. The Pakistani diplomats, in complete violation of Geneva conventions, have directly supported terrorism against both India and Afghanistan. Thus, the Pakistani approach to taking action against the terrorists is very selective. Pakistan must be realy foolish to agree to binding provisions of MLAT, being the chief sponsor of terror. For similar reasons, it is also protecting some of the killers of Bangabandhu Sheik Mujibur Rehman even though they have been convicted of the assassination and awarded capital punishment in Bangladesh.
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ATC rejects prosecution plea to declare Kasab & Ansari as fugitives
See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan
Now, this case cannot move any further. We have to see if the prosecution goes in appeal.An anti-terrorism court on Saturday rejected an application to declare Ajmal Kasab, who was involved in the 2008 Mumbai incident, and Fahim Ansari as fugitives, saying they were not deliberately avoiding court proceedings in Pakistan.
Judge Rana Nisar Ahmed, who is conducting the trial of seven Pakistani suspects charged with involvement in the Mumbai attacks, gave his decision after hearing arguments by prosecution and defence lawyers.
The judge subsequently scheduled the next hearing of the case for April 9. During the hearing, the judge questioned the prosecution’s plea to declare Kasab and Ansari as “proclaimed offenders” or fugitives and pointed out that they were not deliberately avoiding the proceedings in Pakistan, sources said.
Lawyers defending the suspects also told the judge that Kasab and Ansari had been in the custody of Indian authorities even before a case was registered by Pakistani law enforcement agencies against the seven suspects, including Lashkar-e-Taiba commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi.
The prosecution had wanted Kasab and Ansari to be declared fugitives, as their presence in the court is required to proceed with the trial of the seven suspects.
See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan
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There are two things to be noted in this.abhishek_sharma wrote:26/11 probe: Pak agrees to Indian panel's visit
One is that India has promised to set the date for the visit of the Pakistani Judicial Commission to India within four to six weeks (that is latest by mid May). India has not demanded, at least it appears so from the report above, a similar deadline from Pakistan. OTOH, it simply says that '“Modalities and composition in this connection will be worked out through diplomatic channels” which means nothing for a slippery and determined customer like TSP. TSP has been rejecting this request saying legally it was not possible to let an Indian team interrogate the accused. So, one is at a loss as to what the 'panel' will do in Pakistan. The GoP may say anything but the judiciary may not allow that and GoP will throw up its hand. We know the judiciary in TSP is in collusion with the terrorists (either because of conviction or through fear) and GoP is not interested in convicting any 26/11 players or unravelling the plot or helping India.
Two is what kind of access will be given to India. India should be very clear on this and upfront with TSP before agreeing to the visit of the Pakistani delegation. Of course, it is not in Pakistan's interest to send a team to Mumbai, but it is doing so under US pressure. We should leverage that.
The joint statement is silent about 'voice samples', something which the Interior Minister of TSP promised with great fanfare before P. Chidambaram's visit to Islamabad last year. It is yet to happen because TSP later rejected that saying there was no legal provision by which it could be given.
Added much later: I was wrong about the voice samples issue. The joint statement did mention this. The TSP side had explained that the court had rejected the request and that the federal government has appealed to a higher court. Of course, we know what the result would be.
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It is a win-win situation: Gilani
Clearly, this is pure and unadulterated taqiyyah.To a question on how Pakistan agreed to a judicial commission from India given that the Foreign Office till now had contended that domestic laws do not provide for such a visit, the spokesperson said the principles of “comity and reciprocity” were invoked to accommodate New Delhi's request. {So, either the 'domestic laws' was part of fraud or the new-found reciprocity is fraud}
The Indian commission, she added, would speak to the investigators dealing with the Mumbai terror attack.
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Panel visiting Pakistan will have legal jurisdiction: P.Chidambaram
The government today dismissed apprehensions that the team going to Pakistan to gather information and evidence for the 26/11 case will have limited legal jurisdiction and said modalities for the panel will be worked out taking into account existing laws.
Home Minister P Chidambaram said Pakistan has agreed in principle to receive an Indian team to gather information and evidence in that country in connection with the 2008 Mumbai attack case.
“Modalities and procedures would have to be worked out. And when we work out the modalities and procedures, please rest assured that I will be mindful of the legal provisions. Obviously I cannot send a team without being mindful of legal provisions,” he told reporters here.
The Home Minister was responding to a question about reports that the operationalisation of such a panel appears unlikely in the near future under the existing provisions of law.
In the just-concluded Home Secretary level talks, Pakistan conveyed its readiness, in principle, based upon the principle of comity and reciprocity, to entertain a Commission from India with respect to Mumbai terror attack probe.
Chidambaram said he hoped that the modalities and procedures would be worked out quickly and the Indian team can travel to Pakistan soon.
Asked whether Pakistan has delivered what it had promised during his visit to Islamabad last June (in providing cooperation to bring the perpetrators of 26/11 attack into justice), Chidambaram said, “I hope that the Indian team can visit Pakistan and if they are allowed to gather evidence and information and they succeed in gathering evidence and information that is the time I think that the promise would be delivered.”{Another promise that is only waiting to be flouted. We are like this Vikram aur Betal story}
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India won’t get access to 26/11 suspects
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-won ... 79632.aspx
Couldn't get links for this report, sorry.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-won ... 79632.aspx
Couldn't get links for this report, sorry.
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X Posted from the Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2011 thread.
Hindustan Times interview of Gautam Gambhir who displays a sound understanding of the malign nature of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Gautam Gambhir is an individual who is no Wagah Kandle Kisser . He wanted to dedicate the win against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and thereafter the win in the final to the victims of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan fomented act of Islamic Terrorism at Mumbai on 26/11 which killed some 160 plus Indians.
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I play for India, I play for people of my country
Hindustan Times interview of Gautam Gambhir who displays a sound understanding of the malign nature of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Gautam Gambhir is an individual who is no Wagah Kandle Kisser . He wanted to dedicate the win against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and thereafter the win in the final to the victims of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan fomented act of Islamic Terrorism at Mumbai on 26/11 which killed some 160 plus Indians.
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Read it All:And those 100 million people would be desperate for you to win.
We are aware and will give our best. And if we win the final, for me, it'll be dedicated to the people who lost their lives in the 26/11 massacre. To my mind, a win against Pakistan and a win in the final and that too in Mumbai should be dedicated to those victims.
Do you think that will soothe their pain?
I am sure the win against Pakistan would have helped. Once on a trip to Jammu, I met some army men. They told me whatever we do, whoever we play; we should never lose to Pakistan. One of them was posted at the Indo-Pak border and was so emotional that he suggested that I should have a tattoo on my body saying, "I will never lose to Pakistan".
I play for India, I play for people of my country
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THey should have the team and the world cup in from of the Taj Palace hotel and take the photo and video and broadcast it world wide