Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 06 May 2011 10:43

Venkarl, I am confident he'll be in KSA or UAE. Probably the former.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 06 May 2011 10:53

Ayyo ShyamD ji..you mistook me.....my "bluff?" was referring to this part of your post

But india having released that is hinting to the ISI something. Probably that we know he was moved.

Sometimes bluffing may reveal your opponent's card up their sleeve....

Bala Vignesh · Post by **Bala Vignesh** » 06 May 2011 11:23

Graphical illustration of Op Geronimo-like excercise to take out Da-Lakdi Ibrahim

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svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 06 May 2011 11:40

Which magazine and link

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 06 May 2011 11:46

DI can expect a 'casual' visit from janitorial and room service staff in the plush and comfy environs of his KSA/UAE residence. Above picture serves as a nice adrenaline rush for sedentary & bored housewives in desh.

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 06 May 2011 13:11

Today's Mumbai Mirror article states that DI & CS(along with some family) were moved to ISI safehouse at Murree on Tuesday. Travel by plane from Karachi to Islamabad and then on by road.
raa/ib got reports from humint sources near his residence and mumbai crime branch seems to have confirmed with their own.

So where is DI really hiding? My bet is KSA.

Bala Vignesh · Post by **Bala Vignesh** » 06 May 2011 13:14

Acharyaji... The illustration is from LiveFist...

James B · Post by **James B** » 06 May 2011 13:34

Debate on Dawood's apprehension on TimesNow by Arnab Goswami

http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-Dawood-de ... 372409.cms
http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-Dawood-de ... 372410.cms

I don't understand the urge of AG to invite Pakis and allow them to bluster all they want. Sometimes I feel, AG doesn't know how to structure debate in a meaningful manner despite having his heart at the right place.

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 06 May 2011 13:54

Some URLs that might be of use to someone.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/video ... 83133.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defe ... chman.html
http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/18743/
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story ... 66&secid=4
http://portal.bsnl.in/bsnl/asp/content% ... 79219.html
http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/nov/10dawood.htm
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/WOR-SA ... 79495.html
http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/43540/

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 06 May 2011 14:01

shyamd wrote:Venkarl, I am confident he'll be in KSA or UAE. Probably the former.

This article does lead somewhere close to where he was last seen-Bahrein. he could be anywhere in Middle East after this.
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/WOR-SA ... 79495.html

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 May 2011 21:03

I like that small inset where the hire a school bus!

raa agint is dressed in INC clothes but has a beard!

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 06 May 2011 21:24

ramana sir ji...

School bus looks very typical to masaland.

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 06 May 2011 22:27

This would never materialize and nice fancy story and foolish if ever attempted. if we need to take out this guy, is that a big deal !!!! ( a PGM missile fired from AFG would do )
common sense tells its is ISI handlers that are important not him. if this guy goes another Basha would be in his palce as his masters are the ISI

is talking out this guy is worthwhile or we getting the intel and intercepts more useful.

moreover he is like OBL living as a prisoner in that white house, he knows the day he gets out he knows he would be a toast after all a desh bhakthi DON is waiting for him.

my take is let him live but get the intel and info out as that is more important. The support base in India needs to be knocked down

The real covert action would be to take the ISI operatives out like what the French did to the admirals.

of course all this needs Political will.

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 06 May 2011 22:27

my bad posted this twice hence deleting

Bhaskar · Post by **Bhaskar** » 06 May 2011 22:33

Why waste time and money with Commandoes? Just get 10 RAW operatives in plain clothes around his house, wait for a chance and shoot him down.
Then simply remain among the normal crowd, and move towards Balochistan. Get the Balochi rebels to sneak you to Afghanistan and be picked up by the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan...

I know its easier said than done.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 06 May 2011 22:39

Ananya wrote:a PGM missile fired from AFG would do

You guys are talking as if all this is very easy. First of all do we have any units in Afg to such a thing?

Bhaskar wrote:Why waste time and money with Commandoes? Just get 10 RAW operatives in plain clothes around his house, wait for a chance and shoot him down.
Then simply remain among the normal crowd, and move towards Balochistan. Get the Balochi rebels to sneak you to Afghanistan and be picked up by the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan....

If it was that easy wouldn't we have done it already? He is under close protection of ISI. He will be protected more fiercely than OBL because he is going to be the no.1 asset against India for TSP with his already existing network inside India. We have to take him out asap before this network takes hold deeper in India.

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 06 May 2011 22:44

Dilbu wrote:
Ananya wrote:a PGM missile fired from AFG would do

You guys are talking as if all this is very easy. First of all do we have any units in Afg to such a thing?

we do have one base in Tajikistan and to get one with Mr Saleh's help is not that difficult, if in case a option like that is ever chosen.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 06 May 2011 23:32

Unfortunately David Abraham is going to be fine. He's making good money for everyone (INC/BJP included). As long as he does that, you can bet he isn't going anywhere.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 May 2011 23:36

In a perverse way he acts like the disgruntled fellow at the camp fire at the outskirts of the village where the disgruntled abduls gather like in the movie Lion King.
A good thing to have if he is in the village Zamindar's pocket.

Bhaskar · Post by **Bhaskar** » 06 May 2011 23:41

Dilbu wrote:
Ananya wrote:a PGM missile fired from AFG would do
You guys are talking as if all this is very easy. First of all do we have any units in Afg to such a thing?
Bhaskar wrote:Why waste time and money with Commandoes? Just get 10 RAW operatives in plain clothes around his house, wait for a chance and shoot him down.
Then simply remain among the normal crowd, and move towards Balochistan. Get the Balochi rebels to sneak you to Afghanistan and be picked up by the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan....
If it was that easy wouldn't we have done it already? He is under close protection of ISI. He will be protected more fiercely than OBL because he is going to be the no.1 asset against India for TSP with his already existing network inside India. We have to take him out asap before this network takes hold deeper in India.

Good Luck getting MMS and Congress onboard with this.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 08 May 2011 03:20

Scared Dawood Ibrahim may shifts son's wedding venue

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 May 2011 03:28

Cant Sharad Pawar point our his Boss' exact location ?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 08 May 2011 03:34

They are all in the money making scheme. The lot of them. They don't want to give him up.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 08 May 2011 04:13

Looks like Dawood is Indian Public's enemy and not Indian Parliament's

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 08 May 2011 05:12

I still continue to have misgivings about LiveFist's depiction. It is really a sad state of affairs where we are unable to keep a secret any longer as a society. Atleast LiveFist could have stopped short and given out half-truths, instead of revealing a prospective operation in such vivid detail. I dont understand what incentive LiveFist could get out of pictorially translating a written description from an author's work, atleast keeping it in a written format would ensure that the wrong people are not fed new ideas!

Now, even an illiterate (and prospective jihadi) Paki will be interested!

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 08 May 2011 05:23

Relax Klausji....GoI ain't ordering elimination of DI....why do you think GoI just talks about handing over DI to India....cause they know pukes won't do it...which is why GoI JUST TALKS and nothing else.....their safety is in the safety of DI and pukies offer D that safety.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 08 May 2011 05:37

^^^ Venkarl ji, GoI ordering or not ordering anything is besides the point. Why do you think the amirkhan story of OBL's execution keeps taking new versions? The primary reason is that they (as a MIC and as a society) do not want this incident to enter global public imagination, so the truth is distorted and diluted with various half-truths, this course of action is alright and serves them well as the incident *has already taken place*. BTW, even the animated version of choppers landing in Osama's compound is a product of half-truths only!

LiveFist is actually promoting the very thing that the amrikhans are seeking to play down, trying to inject glamour and feed it so that it enters the imagination of the wrong people even as GoI seems to be snoozing over the matter. By all means, LiveFist (or anybody else for that matter) have a licence to talk about it after such an event, definitely not before!

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 08 May 2011 07:18

Bala Vignesh wrote:Acharyaji... The illustration is from LiveFist...

LiveFist is having major wet dreams. Travel by bus in hostile territory? Return to the same spot for evacuation? Force of only 12 people? Silenced submachine guns (I imagine the man thinks the "silencer" makes a gun go "phut" instead of "bang"). The man is nuts.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 May 2011 07:27

if these expat goons did not have some political cover at the state govt and central level, the local police would have long uprooted, cut and burnt every aspect of their network here.

Scar is the political patron, the hyenas the goons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ6cw_MuTDE

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 08 May 2011 07:29

ArmenT wrote:
Bala Vignesh wrote:Acharyaji... The illustration is from LiveFist...
LiveFist is having major wet dreams. Travel by bus in hostile territory? Return to the same spot for evacuation? Force of only 12 people? Silenced submachine guns (I imagine the man thinks the "silencer" makes a gun go "phut" instead of "bang"). The man is nuts.

ya know jinn fizzyks makes the sound levels to be 0 db onlee.

Chhota Rajan men showed the way in 2001

“Armed with fake passports indicating they were Pakistani nationals, they entered Islamabad via Dubai. From there, the duo travelled to Karachi and identified the place where Dawood was staying with his family: a bungalow called White House,” said an underworld source.

With the help of some ‘friends’ (believed to be undercover Indian intelligence agents in Pakistan), they took up residence close to the bungalow. “While, Malhotra took on a job as a driver, Tanasha started ironing clothes at a local laundry,” the source revealed.
For about two months, the two of them kept a watch on the house, and then worked out a plan of action. “They found it was almost impossible to penetrate the security. He was guarded by 12 AK-47-wielding Afghan bodyguards.”
Rajan’s men did not see any possibility of entering the bungalow, but they did find a chink in Dawood’s armour. “As a routine, Dawood would go to the nearby mosque to pray every Friday afternoon. His car would be followed by an escort vehicle carrying his bodyguards.”

The plan was for Malhotra to ram into Dawood’s car on a motorcycle, making it look like an accident. The moment the vehicles stopped, Tanasha would shoot at the car with an AK-47 assault rifle. “They thought it could be done because they would have had the element of surprise in their favour,” said the source. However, the mission was aborted two days before the attack was scheduled. “No one really knows why it was aborted,” the source added.

Bhaskar · Post by **Bhaskar** » 08 May 2011 07:34

ArmenT wrote:
Bala Vignesh wrote:Acharyaji... The illustration is from LiveFist...
LiveFist is having major wet dreams. Travel by bus in hostile territory? Return to the same spot for evacuation? Force of only 12 people? Silenced submachine guns (I imagine the man thinks the "silencer" makes a gun go "phut" instead of "bang"). The man is nuts.

Just to clarify things. Even though livefist did post this, this is originally from Mail Today.

Ravi Karumanchiri · Post by **Ravi Karumanchiri** » 09 May 2011 00:41

Pakistan told ‘white lie’ to India on Dawood: Advani
May 09, 2011 1:17:24 AM

PNS | New Delhi

Senior BJP leader LK Advani has said in his blog that Islamabad has been telling “white lie” to India on the whereabouts of underworld don Dawood Ibrahim like the way it kept feeding to the US the “lie” that Osama bin Laden was not present on its soil. Advani’s latest blogosphere comments titled “US has made Pakistan world’s main terrorist sanctuary” clearly expose the lies Pakistani has been telling all this while to the US and to India.

Advani said that for millions of people, “Obama’s dramatic television appearance” to announce Osama has been “shot down by US elite forces” is a matter of “enormous relief and satisfaction” but on the other hand, yet another piece of information which upset many is that Laden was hunted down at a “compound in Pakistan in the cantonment town of Abbottabad, just 75 miles away from Pakistan’s capital Islamabad, and in the vicinity of Pakistan Army’s training academy”.
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http://www.dailypioneer.com/337411/Paki ... dvani.html

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 May 2011 04:51

TSP always tells lies. No need to prephase them with white or black or bald faced adjectives.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 10 May 2011 04:27

Cross Posting from OBL Thread

Did Dawood's construction firm build Osama's Abbottabad home?

Osama bin Laden’s palatial hideout in the Pakistan town of Abbottabad is designed on a module that’s used by the US military for constructing secret sheds and bunker-type homes for top-notch officers on war fields.

Highly placed sources in Indian intelligence reveal that the contract to outsource lands and develop such homes in Pakistan are allotted to one Safari constructions, which is allegedly owned by fugitive gangster Dawood Ibrahim Kaskar and his trusted lieutenant Chhota Shakeel.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 23 May 2011 05:15

Dawood's Karachi home guarded by Pak Rangers

He lives in a 20,000 sq ft bungalow in Karachi's Cliffton Road area. The bungalow is guarded by Pakistani Rangers and monitored by the Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) of Pakistan.

Worried Dawood Ibrahim puts off son's wedding reception

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 25 May 2011 05:56

Dawood Ibrahim now a top global terrorist

"In the past he was looked upon mainly as a mercenary. LeT was more ideology driven but Dawood and his gang now seem to have merged into LeT," said an official, adding that Dawood now presents as much a danger to India as to the US or any other target country of the jihadis.

The transformation has happened because of his dependence on ISI for his own security as well as his desire for respectability as a jehadi as a protection mechanism. Initially ISI is said to have used him for pumping fake currency into India but as his links with LeT grew, he helped LeT find new recruits in India, mainly in Gujarat and Maharashtra.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 26 May 2011 00:27

pgbhat wrote: “They thought it could be done because they would have had the element of surprise in their favour,” said the source. However, the mission was aborted two days before the attack was scheduled. “No one really knows why it was aborted,” the source added.

Maybe 911 was the reason this was called off. 911 was supposed to be the mother of all event and everything was supposed to be taken care of about Pakistan. Pakistan was supposed to clean up and be on a path for survival and final stable state.
But the reality was different after 911.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 26 May 2011 01:35

VinodTK wrote:Dawood Ibrahim now a top global terrorist
"In the past he was looked upon mainly as a mercenary. LeT was more ideology driven but Dawood and his gang now seem to have merged into LeT," said an official, adding that Dawood now presents as much a danger to India as to the US or any other target country of the jihadis.

The transformation has happened because of his dependence on ISI for his own security as well as his desire for respectability as a jehadi as a protection mechanism. Initially ISI is said to have used him for pumping fake currency into India but as his links with LeT grew, he helped LeT find new recruits in India, mainly in Gujarat and Maharashtra.

That is Bull-Pakistan

The day the US is certain that DI is a negative for them, he will meet his 72 with the full co-operation of the incontinent brown pants in Pindi. DI is Indias problem and no body will help us get to him, in fact the biggest impediment towards arranging a meeting with his 72 will come from his politician friends in India

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 May 2011 02:07

Looks like whoever attacked PNS Mehran got inspired by the graphic. Only they chose to enter via sewer instead of school bus and wore 'Star War' costumes per Rehman Malik!

They thought if Yindus can think of attacking DI, they could do even better and attack a military base.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 26 May 2011 02:13

Me thinks they passed time at the PAF museum and then picked up ammo hidden in a designated spot by G-hadi Abdul insiders. Those seen climbing the ladders to scale the walls were probably ISI Abdul DeCoyi