How do Pakis emigrate so easily to US and Canada at will while it is virtually impossible for someone from India to do so without going through the whole employment Visa to GC process? As some Paki lurker here posted sometime ago that most of the upper class and middle class Pakis are also residents/citizens of some western country. How do they do it?
Who are these Indians with last names Grover and Berry..RajeshA wrote:"Indian leaders shocked over Taseer’s abduction"Vrinda Grover (South Asians for Human Rights) from Delhi, Varsha Berry (Focus on the Global South) from Mumbai,
If Altaf bhai is arrested Londonabad and Lutonabad will turn into a Krachisaip wrote:There is a rumor that Altaf Husain , founder of MQM, is arrested in London for the murder of Dr. Imran Farooq, though no mainline papers have published the news.
Any comments?'India, Pakistan to break deadlock at neutral venue'
MUMBAI: Cricket will once again provide its diplomatic healing touch to India-Pakistan ties with both governments giving their go-ahead for a bilateral series at a neutral venue.
Ijaz Butt, the president of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), visited India last week and a final consent for the series was given in New Delhi. Speaking to TOI from Lahore, Butt said, "I can confirm that a go-ahead has been given for India and Pakistan to resume their cricketing ties. The only issue is now to wait for an appropriate window."
"It's a Rs 200 crore series. There is no way you can keep India and Pakistan away from playing each other. The market is just too big to ignore that potential," said an official who has been tracking the television response and marketing related to the series.
India-Pakistan football series delayed
KARACHI: Hopes of a revival of India-Pakistan sporting ties were dashed on Friday when a two-match football series between the two sides scheduled to be held in Britain next month was called off, an official said.
"The series has been postponed due to unavoidable circumstances and a fresh date will be announced in due course," said a PFF spokesman in a statement.
Bilour flays Risalpur Chowk bombing.A bombing Thursday in northwest Pakistan killed 10 people and wounded 15 others, police said. The bomb was attached to a bicycle parked outside a restaurant in Risalpur, police official Muhammad Hussain told CNN. It was detonated remotely. No one has claimed responsibility for the attack. According to police, three of the fatalities were off-duty security officers inside the restaurant. Police suspect the restaurant was targeted because it often was frequented by security forces from a nearby air force academy.
(I am not making up this benis-worthy pinglish)Say only non-Muslims can shed blood in Ramazan
Risalpur bombingThe militants will never succeed in their nefarious designs to torn apart the future of our youth and the miscreants will be dealt with iron hands.This was stated by Senior Minister Bashir Bilour while talking to media after inquiring about the health of Thursday’s blast in Riasalpur Bazaar. He said continuation of killing of innocent people even in the holy month of Ramzan through bomb blasts has exposed the real face of Taliban that they are not working for the cause of Islam. The real face of militants have been exposed as they have killed thousands of Pakistanis and rendered countless families to mourn death of their dear ones and live the life of poverty and deprivation after losing the bread earners. Bilour also stressed upon the religious organizations and ulema to clearly condemn policies and acts of Taliban in their sermons so that people cannot be hoodwinked by these elements in the name of religion. He said an unannounced war has been leashed on our country, but, he hastened to add, with the support of nation we will continue to fight till winning of this war. He said the security forces including Pakistan Army and Police are fighting this war which much bravery and soon will emerge triumph. Earlier, the Senior Minister visited the site of bomb blast where blood strewn shoes and other belongings of the ill fated victims offering Iftari were scattered. Senior Minister also issued directives for tightening of security on Riasalpure Air Force Academy so that safety of the airmen is ensured. He said the moral of the whole nation including the armed forces is very high in fight against militancy and the enemy of humanity will soon face crushing defeat.
As in previous attacks, the terrorists chose carefully when they decided where to strike and when. A bomb attached to a child’s tricycle went off during the Iftar gathering at an eatery where military personnel often gathered to break their fast. Five Air Force men were among the 11 killed in the blast. Some 15 others were rushed to hospitals to receive treatment.
Butt really does live up to his name and is an idiot of the highest order. I would take what he says with a pinch of salt. The Paki cricket board just want the money for this big money serious - we should not give them the opportunity. Let the ******** go bankrupt.jash_p wrote:Any comments?'India, Pakistan to break deadlock at neutral venue'
MUMBAI: Cricket will once again provide its diplomatic healing touch to India-Pakistan ties with both governments giving their go-ahead for a bilateral series at a neutral venue.
Ijaz Butt, the president of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), visited India last week and a final consent for the series was given in New Delhi. Speaking to TOI from Lahore, Butt said, "I can confirm that a go-ahead has been given for India and Pakistan to resume their cricketing ties. The only issue is now to wait for an appropriate window."
"It's a Rs 200 crore series. There is no way you can keep India and Pakistan away from playing each other. The market is just too big to ignore that potential," said an official who has been tracking the television response and marketing related to the series.
Atiyah Abd Al-Rahman Dead: Al Qaeda Second In Command Killed In PakistanAl Qaida’s second in command has been killed in Pakistan, the Associated Press reported.
A senior administration official told the AP about the death of Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, according to the organization's report.
Al-Rahman was the group's organizational leader prior to Osama bin Laden's death in May. He was killed in Waziristan.
Read more: http://www.wtae.com/news/28998775/detai ... z1WHhvQL8h
The U.S. official would not say how al-Rahman was killed. The Pakistani official did not say how the country's main intelligence agency, the ISI, knew that al-Rahman was dead. This official did not give his name in keeping with agency rules.
I have a few theories that contribute to a hypothesis on this - but no proof - you can take it as conjecture/hypothesis. I am still "working on it".Charlie wrote:
How do Pakis emigrate so easily to US and Canada at will while it is virtually impossible for someone from India to do so without going through the whole employment Visa to GC process? As some Paki lurker here posted sometime ago that most of the upper class and middle class Pakis are also residents/citizens of some western country. How do they do it?
Absolutely, JEM. Irfan Hussein has been critical of the Army many times before that it would be surprising for somebody to read the quoted text from his op-ed. But, in Pakistan, everybody has sought PA's help at various times. That includes all political parties, sectarian parties, terrorist tanzeems, right-wing politico-religious parties, ethnic parties, judiciary, and bureaucracy. That is why the PA is so overpowering and looks at these people like dirt (except the purer variety which has broken away from the clutches of the PA and has been giving the PA a run for its money in the last few years). Every PA dictator burst forth on the scene to a great welcome from the masses, only to be ridiculed a few years later. But, the PA, as an institution, is still held in admiration because it protects geographical boundaries against kufr Hindus and more importantly ideological boundaries against the Yahud-Hanud-Nasara(though the purer variety is contesting that assertion nowadays). Only when the purer variety inflicts heavy blows on the PA will the sheen of PA be dimmed. But then, the sheen of the purer variety will replace that of the PA. There is no respite for Pakistan and the neighbourhood.JE Menon wrote:>>Unwillingly, I have to admit that the army is the one institution in Pakistan to have escaped the corrosive effects of politicisation, and so can be expected to refuse to take sides in any possible crackdown.
Well, I certainly hope the army goes in, but if Irfan Hussein thinks that "the army is the one institution in Pakistan to have escaped the corrosive effects of politicisation", then he knows less about his country than I do
Spot on Sirji.shiv wrote: What does this have to do with Pakhanastanis in the west? I will explain. It is my hypothesis that the vast majority of Pakhanis who went to the west came from a class of extremely wealthy "Royal family" like or rich feudal/aristocratic Jinnah like families. Most Pakistanis who went abroad came from such families and attended elite schools, travelled elite class and mingled with the cream of society in the west - just like an earlier generation of travelling Indian Maharajas. When it came to education the wealthy Pakistani, like Rajiv Gandhi and Bhutto (both wealthy aristocratic families) was "sent" to top schools like Harvard. These schools always have seats open for wealthy foreigners who can pay there way through. In addition to this, Pakistan literally threw its entire lot in with America in the 1950s. The wealthy Pakistanis who mixed with Americans lived like and behaved like wealthy Americans in America, while they provided the best hospitality to Americans in Pakistan - giving them bases, premium travel and a retinue of servants to attend to their every need. So important Americans who came to Pakistan, and even not so important ones, were treated like kings.
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Compare that with the demographic profile of Indians in the west. Long ago India's feudals and maharajas lost their wealth with India's democratization. Indians going abroad did not pay their way through. They worked extra hard to get scholarships and jobs to help them study. They did not get seats in the too schools by payment and they all went on to become honest workers. In other words, although the Indians who went to the west went in larger numbers they did not get to mix with the elite, and they were not able to host and fete Americans in India the way the wealthy Paki elite emigrants did. The Indian in the west was mostly middle class or working class. And some business migrants. Compared to these the Pakis were a different class.
Who to believe? 25 or 80+6? When such questions arise, the simple way to find the truth is ask yourself, who is the purest Muslim? Obviously the TTP because they know their scriptures and do not engage in taqiya. And as the super moderate, progressive Erdogan would say, Muslims don't kill or lie...the rest are kaffir onlee..There were, however, conflicting reports about the casualties suffered by Pakistani security personnel in the coordinated attacks by Taliban militants. The military put the figure at 25, a provincial minister raised it to 30, independent sources said more than 60 might have been killed while the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Malakand division, which claimed responsibility for the attack, claimed killing 80 security personnel and capturing another six.
what did they say? killing ex-gurus and trainers is haraam in ROP?and others started surrendering to the invading militants
Providing air cover and live intelligence to the TTP?Some villagers living in the border areas near Arandu saw Nato helicopters flying over the mountainous areas of Afghanistan and Chitral during the clashes between the militants and Pakistani security personnel.
Expect MKB to say this in next super intelligent post..
Acharya wrote:
Check the last one and see the reason why ISI is the best in the world
Wanted to write a reply in the book-review folder for this. Among many things, this is something that is covered in Naipaul's book "Among the believers" (I am almost done with it). It is written in the early 80's (just after Iranian revolution) and chronicles Naipaul's travels to (what he calls) "Land of the converted peoples".Charlie wrote: How do Pakis emigrate so easily to US and Canada at will while it is virtually impossible for someone from India to do so without going through the whole employment Visa to GC process? As some Paki lurker here posted sometime ago that most of the upper class and middle class Pakis are also residents/citizens of some western country. How do they do it?
Acharya wrote:
Check the last one and see the reason why ISI is the best in the world
The ayesha on the bottom right of the first pic is marching with her finger on the triggergakakkad wrote:^^^ are these real Guns ? I hope for big ied mubaraks...
Abduction of Hindus, Sikhs have become a business in Pak: PML MP
Yudhvir Rana | Aug 28, 2011, 03.07AM IST ………………………
"Being a soft target, many Hindus and Sikhs are abducted from the province for ransom, but cases of forced conversion are more in Sindh province. Those who can't bear their persecution anymore often think of migrating to India as they are not financially sound enough to shift to European countries."
"Being a minority MP, I have always been raising issues in the parliament and demanding protection for minorities, but that's all I can do,".......................
Dawood Bhai has extensive safe havens in Joberg.Altaf Hussain caught escaping to South Africa?
By Special Correspondent
Friday 26 August 2011
London: Altaf Hussain self exiled leader of MQM-A caught escaping to South Africa by the authorities. According to sources, ‘Altaf Hussain was hiding in the Wrexham area close to Slough in Berkshire for the past few days. He was stopped when was going to Heathrow Airport in a private taxi. Interestingly the taxi driver was a Pakistani whom Mr Hussain thought as an English man due to his appearance.
http://www.thelondonpost.net/Aug262011000117.html
Interestingly the taxi driver was a Pakistani whom Mr Hussain thought as an English man due to his appearance.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/28/kidnappe ... kohat.htmlshravan wrote:Kidnapped retired colonel found dead
Colonel (retired) Shakeel Ahmed Tariq of armoured corps of Pakistan Army had served as president of Inter-Services Selection Board (ISSB) for eight years.
He also served in Military Intelligence as a major. Presently he was running a private academy for imparting training to boys to qualify tests of ISSB.
He was the son of Major (retired) Jalil Shah and brother of Nadra provincial director Col (retired) Aqeel Ahmed. He left behind a window and four children, who are living in Dubai.
He was the son of Major (retired) Jalil Shah and brother of Nadra provincial director Col (retired) Aqeel Ahmed. He left behind a window and four children, who are living in Dubai.
What is 1 storey, 2 storey buildings, I want to see many Burj-Khalifa'sMahendra wrote:
Krachi approaching Bradmanesque consistency
The choice of colours is interesting, it seems the Poakroaches are a hard task masters, perhaps even more than most BRFites. On BRF people seem to be demanding centuries but on the other hand Poakroaches seem to highlight in red only double centuries and above, the rest, for instance the low score of 84 in Feb seems to be inconsequential
Toy guns. But knowing Pakis i wouldn't be too surprised if some of those junior Ayeshas get real AKs for the next rally..ArmenT wrote:The ayesha on the bottom right of the first pic is marching with her finger on the triggergakakkad wrote:^^^ are these real Guns ? I hope for big ied mubaraks...
Hundreds of militants attack Pakistani border
Hundreds of militants crossed the Afghan border on Saturday and attacked three security checkpoints in northwestern Pakistan, killing 26 paramilitary soldiers and police.
27 Aug 2011
It was the latest of a series of attacks that Pakistani officials say have been launched from an area of eastern Afghanistan where the US has largely pulled out its troops.
The raids have increased tension between Pakistan, Afghanistan and the US.
Armed with heavy weapons, the militants seized control of a local village after attacking the security checkpoints in Chitral district, said local police official Nizam Khan. Pakistani forces responded to the raid and killed nine insurgents, he said.
Pakistani troops called in helicopter gunships to drive the militants back across the border.
The militants chanted "God is great!" and "Long live jihad!" as they fought.
Chitral is located across the border from the Afghan districts of Nuristan and Kunar, both of which house significant numbers of Afghan and Pakistani Taliban fighters. The US largely pulled out of the area about a year ago but has recently added additional troops.
Pakistan complained earlier this summer that militants coming from Afghanistan killed at least 55 members of the security forces and tribal police in a spate of attacks, and demanded that U.S. and Afghan forces do more to stem the flow of fighters.
Kabul and Washington have long accused Pakistan of not doing enough to stop militants from crossing into Afghanistan to stage attacks.
Afghanistan has also complained that Pakistan fired more than 750 rockets into eastern Afghanistan earlier this summer that killed at least 40 people.
The Pakistan army denied it intentionally fired rockets into Afghanistan, but acknowledged that several rounds fired at militants conducting cross-border attacks may have landed over the border.
While the border attacks continued, inside Afghanistan a car bomb exploded outside a bank in Lashkar Gah, killing four people.
The bomb went off as soldiers and police officers were lined up to collect their salaries at the bank in the city, the capital of Helmand province. More than 20 people were wounded in the blast, including 10 soldiers and six police officers.
Less than three hours later, two explosions also hit the south's largest city – Kandahar.
The first blast in Kandahar was a car bomb outside the city's main hospital that wounded seven people, said Kandahar police chief Gen. Abdul Raziq.
Soon after, a suicide car bomber blew up his vehicle near a police compound in the city, killing one civilian and wounding more than 20 people.
So he took all the doors and khatiya bistar with him. He can now enjoy love making in Djannath without having to bother about other ghazi shaheeds trying to peep through the window and videotape him in his act.
Mahendra wrote:Krachi approaching Bradmanesque consistency . . . it seems the Poakroaches are a hard task masters, perhaps even more than most BRFites. On BRF people seem to be demanding centuries but on the other hand Poakroaches seem to highlight in red only double centuries and above, the rest, for instance the low score of 84 in Feb seems to be inconsequential
The Islamic Republic of Pakistan has summoned the Afghan Ambassador and lodged a demarche for the Green on Green incident in which the uniformed jihadi's of the Chitral Scouts were targetted by un-uniformed jihadi's who were originally nutured by Pakistan to export jihadi terrorism elsewhere: