Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2012

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 20 Apr 2012 17:53

so actually, you can infer that it impacts the entire pakistani economy, ergo america will have to fund the entire amount of pakistan's GDP directly

khan · Post by **khan** » 20 Apr 2012 18:22

One interesting thing to note is Pakistan's non-reaction to the Agni-V launch. Not too long ago, they wold have responded with a missile test of their own along with a silly "balance of power" statement.

I think they have given up even keeping up appearances... how they have fallen.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 20 Apr 2012 18:26

khan wrote:One interesting thing to note is Pakistan's non-reaction to the Agni-V launch. Not too long ago, they wold have responded with a missile test of their own along with a silly "balance of power" statement.

I think they have given up even keeping up appearances... how they have fallen.

Why bother when they already know it doesn't work

. I'm referring to the N. Korean launch attempt just last week or so.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 20 Apr 2012 18:26

TSP to rest of the world:

you can have your economics courses , multinational corps, supply chain mgmt, snooty nobel prizes, world bank, imf etc. , but we know how to make money without all that and we are barely educated. Take that rest of the world, bloody twats! !

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2012 19:03

One rocket (NK) did fail, but they are preparing for another launch..

Seoul claims North Korea is assembling another heavy ballistic missile similar to the ill-fated one launched on April 13.

Seoul’s assumptions are based on American space reconnaissance data. They say both rockets were delivered at the site simultaneously around March 23. One rocket was unsuccessfully launched last week, falling to pieces less than two minutes after the launch.

The second rocket, presumably of the same type and specifications, is being prepared for launch in a hangar at at the Tongch'ang-dong Space Launch Center in woodland some 50 kilometers from the border with China.

Seoul believes Pyongyang wants to compensate for the unfortunate launch of the Unha-3 that was supposed to take first North Korean satellite into an orbit.

http://rt.com/news/north-new-ballistic-missile-531/

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 20 Apr 2012 19:03

The only HARP that unkil has manufactured is "Home Affordable Refinance Program" and that too has failed miserably
http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/pro ... /harp.aspx

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2012 19:09

One interesting thing to note is Pakistan's non-reaction to the Agni-V launch. Not too long ago, they wold have responded with a missile test of their own along with a silly "balance of power" statement.

Yes indeed, but this time they banked on a Chinese reaction. Loss of a strategic post in Siachen, crumbling economy, nationalist movements emerging strongly in Baluchistan, Gilgit/ Baltistan and Sindh, American pressure, even Chinese pressure..they've got their plate full at present. It would look very silly firing a 700 mile rocket in response to something we're doing obviously and loudly as deterrent to China.

But i have a feeling China may veto UN sanctions on NK and point out discriminatory treatments between NK and Indian launches. That part is bugging the Chinese more than anything. WSJ Americans are openly taunting the CPC drones..

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Apr 2012 19:51

khan wrote:One interesting thing to note is Pakistan's non-reaction to the Agni-V launch. Not too long ago, they wold have responded with a missile test of their own along with a silly "balance of power" statement.

I think they have given up even keeping up appearances... how they have fallen.

Well teh Chinese are acting like Paquis now - the Chini media say that Agni 5 is a threat to Pakistan and China. Tessy Mol will have to be launched from China to hit Shitistan. Piggystan to Shitistan.

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 20 Apr 2012 19:59

Aircraft Crashes in Islamabad..
Post all updates here..

RAWALPINDI: A Bhoja Airline flight # B4213 has reportedly crashed near Chaklala airbase, Geo News reported.

According to sources, the a Boeing 737 with 127 passengers on board, which flew from Karachi was suppose to land in Islamabad at 6:40PM, but crashed just before touchdown.

Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has confirmed the reports of crash.

Rescue teams have rushed to the crash site.

More details are yet awaited.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 20 Apr 2012 20:01

Unending violence claims 13 lives in Karachi
http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=46440&CID=1

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shravan · Post by **shravan** » 20 Apr 2012 20:01

Pakistan Defence Ministry officially confirms 118 deaths as a result of Plane Crash near Rawalpindi

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 Apr 2012 20:09

^^ any news of mango crates onboard ?

Plane crashes in Pakistan, local media reports - CNN
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- An airplane with 127 people on board crashed Friday near an airport in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, Pakistan's GEO-TV reported, citing sources. The country's Civilian Aviation Authority confirmed reports of a crash, the station said.

The Boeing 737 was flying from Karachi and crashed just before touching down, the Karachi-based Pakistani news channel reported.

The weather conditions in the area include high winds and limited visibility, according to CNN meteorologist Mari Ramos.

Rescue teams were reportedly headed to the crash site

Aviation officials said the Bhoja Air plane, flight BHO-213, was flying from Karachi to Islamabad when it crashed in bad weather near Chaklala Airbase, Rawalpindi.

pralay · Post by **pralay** » 20 Apr 2012 20:18

wow,
the score was just 11 till afternoon session,
the score reached 14 till evening session.
and then 127 scored in evening session!!!
Thats huge performance, fantastic pricket is being played today

so total score till now is 14+127 = 141
2 hours to go

member_22286 · Post by **member_22286** » 20 Apr 2012 20:32

Crash happened near Rawalpindi GHQ

saip · Post by **saip** » 20 Apr 2012 20:39

The plane was on maiden flight. It was bought second hand and supposedly not airworthy. How was it even allowed to fly? Strange things happen in Pakiland.

Link

This is the CNN link. Look at the comments. Americans sure hate pakistanis.

CNN

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 Apr 2012 20:44

edited

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 20 Apr 2012 20:47

IMHO bad taste to celebrate an air crash
not strictly speaking green on green festivities

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2012 20:50

^ +1.

Also it was not it's maiden flight. It was disallowed to fly before. After that absencia..this was it's first flight.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Apr 2012 21:15

shravan wrote:Unending violence claims 13 lives in Karachi
http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=46440&CID=1

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Appears the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday has not been effective in getting the Mohammadden denizens of Karachi in toning down violence levels . The body-count, despite today being the Mohammadden Sabbath, has pipped yesterdays:

Rohit_K wrote:Thursday: 11 killed in fresh Karachi violence

Today (morning session): Three gunned down in Karachi areas

Still another 2 sessions left to play today. Will they be able to achieve a lead?

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Apr 2012 21:30

So who is the less pure here who gets declared Wajib ul Qatl?

The piously bearded Mohammadden terrorist or the piously bearded terrorist sympathising Mohammadden cleric turned politician?

Qazi Hussain Ahmad declined to comment on a new videotape recorded by the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) head Hakimullah Mahsud in which he accused the former Jamaat-i-Islami chief of distorting the concept of jihad and defending Pakistan instead of Islam.

Criticizing Qazi Hussain for describing the Afghan Taliban's resistance against foreign forces in Afghanistan as true jihad and that of the Pakistani Taliban in Pakistan as un-Islamic, Hakimullah argued that the JI leader was wrong in his interpretation.

"Both the Karzai regime in Afghanistan and the Pakistan government are allies of the US. In Afghanistan, the US is occupying Bagram and Jalalabad and other airbases and in Pakistan the Americans were in control of Jacobabad airbase. Where is the difference between the fight being waged by the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban as both are waging jihad?" he asked.

Hakimullah reminded Qazi Hussain that he was once given respect by educated people, students, Ulema and others. "Now I can no longer trust you, Qazi sahib. Why are you calling our battle "fasaad" instead of jihad? You are secular and "watanprast" because you are seeking power and defending Pakistan instead of Islam!" he stressed.

From here:

Hakimullah Mahsud criticises Qazi Hussain for 'misinterpreting' Jihad

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 20 Apr 2012 21:39

pakistan's Bhoja Air jet crashes near Islamabad - 127 dead
Apparently Bhoja Air site has also crashed.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 20 Apr 2012 21:41

The BBC is reporting the crash site as Hussain Abad village near Bahria town, which is located pretty close to Chaklala, Rawalpindi.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17788698

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Apr 2012 21:55

arun wrote:Hakimullah Mahsud criticises Qazi Hussain for 'misinterpreting' Jihad

The list is growing, Benazir Bhutto, Col. Imam, Sqn. Ldr. Khwaja, Fazl-ur-Rehman (escaped assassination). Qazi Hussain saheb must seek Canadian visa urgently.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Apr 2012 22:16

SSridhar wrote:
arun wrote:Hakimullah Mahsud criticises Qazi Hussain for 'misinterpreting' Jihad
The list is growing, Benazir Bhutto, Col. Imam, Sqn. Ldr. Khwaja, Fazl-ur-Rehman (escaped assassination). Qazi Hussain saheb must seek Canadian visa urgently.

Salman Taseer as well.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Apr 2012 22:17

X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.

Pakistani journalist Mustafa Qadri writing for the Guardian’s Comment Is Free column:

Pakistan is in denial over spreading sectarian violence

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 20 Apr 2012 22:44

abhijitm wrote:pakistan's Bhoja Air jet crashes near Islamabad - 127 dead
Apparently Bhoja Air site has also crashed.

India and Pakistan are poor countries whose people urgently need food. This website crash shows that websites are a costly luxury that both countries could ill afford. Both India and Pakistan must immediately and permanently shut down the internet. But India must do it first because Indian aggression caused the problem and the whole world knows it.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 20 Apr 2012 22:55

sameer_shelavale wrote:wow,
the score was just 11 till afternoon session,
the score reached 14 till evening session.
and then 127 scored in evening session!!!
Thats huge performance, fantastic pricket is being played today

so total score till now is 14+127 = 141
2 hours to go

Sameer ji, these are civilians, many of them children and old aged people. No I am not a Aman ki tamasha type, I do rejoice when the porki Taliban and other terrorists die but never civilians. I hope you take this in the right spirit and I am not being mr. right here or sitting on a pedestal here. Just another SDRE hypocrite.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 20 Apr 2012 22:55

what kind of na-pak name is bhoja, IIRC there used to be a yeevil yindoo raja called Bhoj

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Apr 2012 22:59

Still Djannat is assured

Pakistan listed as highest most out-of school children country

ISLAMABAD: International figures show that Pakistan is one of the countries having the highest most out-of school children, -- 7.3 million (UNESCO, 2009).
This indicates a high number of street and working children in Pakistan. Various sources show that more than 170,000 street children are living on the streets across the country; and that 30,000 to 40,000 street children are present in the metropolitan areas.Children on streets are mistreated by many stakeholders. Almost 40,000 street children involved in solvent abuse in Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Rawalpindi and Islamabad, Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child (SPARC) says.To help these children SPARC is having a drop-in center in Pir Wadhai.Every day almost 90 children profit from various services as psychosocial support, non-formal education, life skills based education, recreational, health and hygiene improvement sessions and medical support, vocational skill training and play activities. Last year 1700 children availed different services of our center.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 20 Apr 2012 23:02

SSridhar wrote:. Qazi Hussain saheb must seek Canadian visa urgently.

Note how Qazi refused to address Hakimullah's threats. A definite brown shalwar moment there...I bet he reaches out secretly to make peace with TTP types.

Remember Fazlur Rehman after a near death situation?

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 20 Apr 2012 23:03

From the CNN article:

The Bhoja airliner was flying from the southern seaport city of Karachi and crashed just before touching down after its 3 ½ hour flight.

Does Karachi to Slumbad take 3.5 hr? What the hell is going on? Was the plane using djinn technology or running on Diesel/water mixture?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Apr 2012 23:15

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/pak-r ... 120419.htm
Pak raises new farce to secure its nuke weapons

A batch of 900 soldiers of the new "Security Force" of the Strategic Plans Division, which is responsible for managing the country's nuclear arsenal, graduated from the Baloch and Frontier Force Regimental Centres at the garrison town of Abbotabad on Thursday, the military said in a statement.
"With the induction of these newly trained soldiers, the strength of the SPD Security Force touches a figure of 20,000," the statement said.The Security Force has been raised against the backdrop of concerns expressed by politicians about Pakistan's nuclear arsenal being targeted by the US in order to prevent it from falling into the hands of extremists.The Pakistani military has dismissed such concerns, saying it has multi-layered foolproof measures in place to protect its strategic assets.The statement said the SPD had undertaken a "comprehensive plan to significantly augment the capacity of its Security Force to ensure foolproof security of strategic assets".t further said four batches of the Security Force had been trained at the Baloch and Frontier Force Regimental Centres while a batch of the "Special Response Force" was trained at the newly established SPD Training Academy.Maj Gen Muhammad Tahir, the Director General of Security for the SPD, was the chief guest at the passing-out ceremony for the 900 soldiers on Thursday.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Apr 2012 23:16

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan should get its nuclear scientist Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood cracking on his Mohammadden Science project of tapping Jinn / Djinns / Genies for energy

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Datelined yesterday ie: April 19:

Power shortfall touches 6500MW

Datelined today ie: April 20:

Loadshedding unbridled as electricity shortfall reaches 5,500 MW

According to PEPCO spokesman, total power generation from various sources is 9,500 MW against the demand of 15,000 MW. …………………

The people are facing at least 12 to 14 hours loadshedding in urban areas and 16 to 18 hours in rural areas. ………………

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Apr 2012 23:18

Lilo wrote:^^ any news of mango crates onboard ?

Plane crashes in Pakistan, local media reports - CNN
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The Plane was 30 years old. Pakis have a tendency to not maintain anything -- Oyrope has banned PIA flights for lack of training, inspection and maintenance and have deemed all aircraft a danger to their airports and airspace.

Probably a wing fell off because nobody remembered to tighten the bolts. Their aircraft are just flying equivalents of their locomotives. Apparently out of 500000000000 locomotives they have, only 3 are in running condition and take a guess why: Money? No. Spares? No. Apparently it is lack of qualified technicians who can service them!!

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Apr 2012 23:24

arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan should get its nuclear scientist Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood cracking on his Mohammadden Science project of tapping Jinn / Djinns / Genies for energy .

Datelined yesterday ie: April 19:

Power shortfall touches 6500MW

Datelined today ie: April 20:

Loadshedding unbridled as electricity shortfall reaches 5,500 MW

According to PEPCO spokesman, total power generation from various sources is 9,500 MW against the demand of 15,000 MW. …………………

The people are facing at least 12 to 14 hours loadshedding in urban areas and 16 to 18 hours in rural areas. ………………

There is no power in the Hussainabad village (plane crashed into this village) which is on the outskirts of Islamabad.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Apr 2012 23:28

Here is from a report of a previous crash in 2010 in Slumbad which sent 152 packing:

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100809/j ... 789069.jsp

Last month’s Islamabad plane tragedy that killed 152 people has swivelled focus to a sphere in Pakistan that rarely occupies Indian mindspace: the western neighbour’s private airlines.

As for PIA, most of its aircraft have poor seats, seat belts and meal tables.

Nor are the airlines meticulous about safety. For instance, experts are asking why the Airbus A321’s pilot had ignored air traffic control (ATC) instructions to fly to Lahore because of poor weather in Islamabad, and why he had entered the restricted area of Margalla Hills minutes before the crash.

Besides, the Airblue co-pilot was very young with only a few year’s experience. The experts said it was a mistake on the airline’s part to assign such a junior pilot to a route considered the most difficult for landings because of the ever-changing weather.

Airlines have to get their planes registered for certain domestic and international routes in the rest of the world including India, he said, which makes it binding on the operators not to shuffle the aircraft. But there is nothing of the sort in Pakistan, where airlines often switch aircraft from domestic to international routes. {They register a plane for a route and then fly some other plane in the same route for cost cutting}

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 20 Apr 2012 23:29

abhijitm wrote:pakistan's Bhoja Air jet crashes near Islamabad - 127 dead
Apparently Bhoja Air site has also crashed.

Bhoja Air. Sounds very SDRE-ish. Someone from Bihar or eastern UP who opted for "greener" pastures?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Apr 2012 23:31

KLNMurthy wrote:
abhijitm wrote:pakistan's Bhoja Air jet crashes near Islamabad - 127 dead
Apparently Bhoja Air site has also crashed.
India and Pakistan are poor countries whose people urgently need food. This website crash shows that websites are a costly luxury that both countries could ill afford. Both India and Pakistan must immediately and permanently shut down the internet. But India must do it first because Indian aggression caused the problem and the whole world knows it.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Apr 2012 23:45

CAA spokesperson Pervaiz George, speaking to the media, said the authority has arranged a hotel in Islamabad for free stay for the relatives of the victims. He further said that another Bhoja Air plane will arrive in Karachi at around 10:30pm and will fly with the relatives of the victims to Islamabad. He added that the plane was in a good condition.

From twitter:

Dunya TV showed a footage of people looting the precious stuff, jewelry and cash from the wreckage.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Apr 2012 00:11

Poaqland Trains, Planes and Auto-mob-eels News tell us the impending collapse of the Temporary Nature of of Kaibla life style. Not even China can afford 198 Million useless,brainless inbred terrorist servants.

Woh Subah Kabhi naa Ayegge
Jub Pakistan me terrorist paida Naa Hogga
Inbreeding orr Incest ka rishta Naa Hogga
Canadian Veeza ka famous Kustom Naa Hogga
Lekin Phir bhi India WKK ko
Aqal kabhi naa Ayegee .