Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[RamaY]

In a state this is possible at the country level this makes little sense. Did India exist before the arrival of the Mughals?

Did it?

[disha]

In a state this is possible at the country level this makes little sense. Did India exist before the arrival of the Mughals?

Which mongrels are you talking about? Current ones holding power in Delhi or the Barburs?

[RamaY]

Just in and I wonder how Sushupti ji is not on the beat:

NM met RNS, had lunch and in NM's own words - 2014 ke baare mein bahut vistaar se baatchit hui (extensive discussions on 2014). Modi also sought guidance on what he should do in Gujarat.

[youtube]xCXHjKHwBxU[/youtube

Read this as continuation of NM's victory speech on 12/21 when he said he would go to Delhi on 1/27. And note the point that "he asked RNS's direction on leading bJP govt in Guj, and vistaar churcha on 2014".

[peter]

In a state this is possible at the country level this makes little sense. Did India exist before the arrival of the Mughals?

India is not equivalent to most other countries. The closest equivalent would be the European Union if it added fiscal and political consolidation on top of the monetary union.

IMHO this is the JNU/AMU/western "erudite" line. On the contrary India has always been a nation. Don't people pray to the same Gods North South East West? Don't they have similar culture?

[peter]

Gujarat govt to celebrate Republic Day in Dang

The man is a true leader, visionary and brilliant. India will be at a great loss if we
can't make this man PM and change the history of the country.

In a state this is possible at the country level this makes little sense. Did India exist before the arrival of the Mughals?

Speaking at different functions on the eve of the R-Day, he said that the government has decided to celebrate the national festival this year at the doorstep of predominantly tribal people of the district to involve their participation and co-operation. tnn

This is just an example. The point is his ideas, vision and innovativeness in bringing in solutions to multitude of problems.

1. While every CM/PM/CON ITALIAN want to give free electricity, he convinces majority of farers to use power in the nights at discount rates.
2. Willingness to promote drip water irrigation to reduce water wastage
3. His idea of integrating tribals is not just send 500 Rs cash and buying votes for ever or pitting tribals against upper castes as most crooked MAFIA NGO network/Fiberal network tries to do. Make them self reliant so that they can become productive in the society and achieve self dignity.

Have we see one initiative/idea from the SCUM DIEnasty other than sending money and buying votes or Hindus are terrorists or SOnia started crying in Rahul's room or watching the pictures of Batla terrorists.

You may be right on the points you mentioned but coming back to your previous post surely Delhi existed as capital of Hindus before the Muslims took it over?

[peter]

In a state this is possible at the country level this makes little sense. Did India exist before the arrival of the Mughals?

Did it?

Yes it did. You have doubts?

[peter]

In a state this is possible at the country level this makes little sense. Did India exist before the arrival of the Mughals?

Which mongrels are you talking about? Current ones holding power in Delhi or the Barburs?

You can combine both your mongrels if you like.

[Arjun]

IMHO this is the JNU/AMU/western "erudite" line. On the contrary India has always been a nation. Don't people pray to the same Gods North South East West? Don't they have similar culture?

Of course it is a nation, united by Dharmic thought and practices that evolved millenia before the Abrahamic religions did.

But - Dharmic thought does not insist on homogeneity. Hence the enormous diversity that you see in India that is more akin to the European continent, which though united by its Christian beliefs - never managed to forge a common cultural identity that India did.

Anyway, what is the relevance of this conversation to Modi or the Dynasty?

[Sushupti]

Nayab Ameer Lashkar-e-Congress ke Karnaame

Rahul Gandhi Rather Be At The Gym Than Attend Republic Day Parade

http://fashionscandal.com/index.php/201 ... ay-parade/

[Arjun]

Rahul Gandhi Rather Be At The Gym Than Attend Republic Day Parade

http://fashionscandal.com/index.php/201 ... ay-parade/

So a few days after he promises to 'dedicate his life to India' - he misses the Republic Day function in order to build his muscles at the gym ?

[Yagnasri]

You are presuming he is in Gym. May be doing harijountal jogining with his afghan frind.

[member_20317]

Just in and I wonder how Sushupti ji is not on the beat:

NM met RNS, had lunch and in NM's own words - 2014 ke baare mein bahut vistaar se baatchit hui (extensive discussions on 2014). Modi also sought guidance on what he should do in Gujarat.

[youtube]xCXHjKHwBxU[/youtube

Read this as continuation of NM's victory speech on 12/21 when he said he would go to Delhi on 1/27. And note the point that "he asked RNS's direction on leading bJP govt in Guj, and vistaar churcha on 2014".

RamaY ji don't know what is this you tube video. Cannot access from office.

But the latest snake on the TV is RNS for PM. Now RNS is what can be called a 'Limp Hindu' quite like the 'Limp Sikh' we have for the PM these days. And you know RNS, he is the kind of guy best serving the other guys interest instead of his own. The kind given to sensibilites. Bharat can hardly afford such chicanery.

There is a reason why people need to close negotiations fast. Even if done in secret and involving ..... It is important to get the other party to commit by way of 'sunk investment'. If RSS keeps quite about this latest thing on news channels and RNS gets foisted then they deserve to loose and whatever can come after that. RNS is RSS boy at least in the current context and they hold the responsibility for this Limp Hindu.

[Arjun]

End dynastic politics to make youth part system

Have to say that some Muslim writers like Firdaus Syed are starting to make much more sense than the vast bulk of Hindu morons who don't see anything wrong with dynasty in politics.

The three-day theatre at Jaipur was accompanied with all the necessary ingredients of amelodrama. Expectedly, the climax of the show — Tamasha — was the coronation of the “yuvraj”.The apologists of the grand old party will like us to believe that the heir-apparent was so far reluctant to assume his ordained responsibilities not because of his any perceived incapability.

In a somewhat emotional tone Rahul revealed that his mother thinks ‘power is poison’; therefore he avoided the chalice thus far with a higher purpose of not getting consumed by the toxic power. Yet there seems to be a little problem in the emotional scene enacted solely to impress the highly-sentimental Indian; apparently the performance is the repetition of an old act. Rajiv Gandhi too was reluctant to assume the power initially.

However, the way he was accused by his political opponents of misusing the power in the wake of the Bofors scandal is still very much fresh in the public memory. First time in the history of free India, the sympathy wave generated by Indira Gandhi’s unfortunate assassination enabled the Congress under Rajiv to win more than 400 seats in Parliament. In less than five years, the haughty display of power-politics by Rajiv and his cronies led to the worst ever debacle of the Congress.

The speechwriters of the dynasty may have rightly perceived that since the highly emotional Indian is inherently flummoxed by the pomp, show and the paraphernalia associated with the rulers, he/she can easily be foxed again with a repeat performance. The think-tank of the Congress is not to be blamed for considering the Indian voter as a loyal subject. The way the dynastic politics has fully flourished in India, actually a sham in the name of democracy, is enough to underscore the slave mentality syndrome a common Indian is badly afflicted with.

The dynasty can anoint a ruler — fifth generation in succession in Rahul’s case — with a firm hope that the emotional voter will dutifully stamp his approval in the so-called elections — is it an election or a sophisticated process of nomination? If it is not slave mentality, how else could this infatuation with dynastic rule can be explained?The slave mentality of the Indian voter is not a mere slur; it is the fact of life.

The kings, nawabs and zameendars have been replaced by the dynastic rulers in the length and breadth of the democracy so brazenly and in perpetuity. Still it seems that the time hasn’t come yet for the people to face the ugly realties squarely. Till the time the dynasties cropped like chicken pox on the body politics of the democracy are able to thrive rather with greater disdain for the basic democratic values, the sundry voter will again and again prove to be a meek bounded slave rather than an informed and empowered citizen.

The onus for the change is not with the dynasties, they have a strong vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Unless the common citizen thinks and acts like a free citizen and brings to end the disgusting dynastic politics, the hope of real change will remain an elusive idea.
The coronation ceremony at Jaipur was not entirely an appalling show; it contained some amusing elements also.

The Gandhis feel completely immune to any public scrutiny. Sorrounded by a huge army of sycophants whose very survival depends on the continuation of the dynasty, they are beyond the realm of any criticism within the Congress party. The fully secure Gandhis have developed a weird attitude of moral superiority, and assuming a high moral high ground they readily pontificate as if they are free from all the ills. Rahul reportedly posed a question at Jaipur: “Why are the youth angry?”

And he seems to have an answer also: “We don’t empower people at the bottom. People feel they are outside the system. That happens because we don’t respect knowledge. We respect only positions. If you don’t have position, you mean nothing.”

This seems to be a very true prognosis. But dear Rahul, what special qualification do you have to be able to posses the prominent position you presently hold that may soon catapult you to become the next prime minister of India, other than your unique place in the dynasty? Charity begins at home; dynastic politics has to come to an end for the youth to feel to be part of the system. Are you prepared Mr Gandhi? Everything else sounds like a gibberish talk.

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[Sushupti]

Has UPA killed the India growth story?

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-sh ... 130128.htm

[Arjun]

Has UPA killed the India growth story?

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-sh ... 130128.htm

Why would the UPA want the urban middle class to grow in size when that class clearly abhors medieval dynastic politics ?

[RajeshA]

Has UPA killed the India growth story?

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-sh ... 130128.htm

Why would the UPA want the urban middle class to grow in size when that class clearly abhors medieval dynastic politics ?

Well the urban middle class also has a repository of Yuppies, and Yuppies are actually a very fickle constituency. Till now Pakistan National Congress was able to convince them with Indian SoopaPauer, Indian Growth Story, India-Amreeka Nuclear Bhai-Bhai, "Singh is Kinng, Singh is Kinng" jingles, etc., but when they hear about Indian economy collapsing under the leadership of Pakistan National Congress and hear about NaMo bringing in 49,405 crores investment to Gujarat, more than all the rest combined, then the Yuppie also starts thinking - Is it time to jump ship?

[Narad]

NAC members tried to save Kasab!!
Aruna Roy and Harsh Mandar sought mercy from president.

A serving member and a former member in the Sonia Gandhiheaded National Advisory Council (NAC) were among the 203 petitioners to the President of India seeking mercy for Ajmal Kasab, the main accused in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks, which claimed 164 lives.

An RTI reply in this regard has revealed that Aruna Roy, who is at present a member of the influential NAC, and Harsh Mander, a former member in the body, were among the scores of others, including several journalists and social activists who filed mercy pleas for Kasab. “Mander, a former NAC member, wrote to the President of India seeking clemency for Ajmal Kasab, who had been sentenced to death by a trial court as well as the Supreme Court. But President Pranab Mukherjee was gracious enough to reject the clemency petition as well as the strong recommendation the NAC member,” Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy told reporters here on Friday.

Kasab was hanged on November 21, last year. Swamy distributed copies of the letter received under the Rightto Information Act by one of his party members about details of persons who sent in mercy petitions to the President for Kasab. Both Roy and Mander figure in the 203-strong list. Besides the two, another key social activist figuring in the list happens to be Nikhil Dey. “These are the kind of people sitting as members of the NAC to decide the fate of this country,” Swamy alleged. Mander, who was a member of the NAC till last year, had also courted controversy for his pleas to save Afzal Guru, one of the main accused in the 2001 Parliament attack case, from the gallows.

When contacted, Harsh Mander sent an article, ‘The Quality of Mercy’, that he had written after Kasab’s hanging in November last year saying it reflected his views on the issue. “I feel even more worried when the Supreme Court declares in a particular matter of a political crime of terror that the death sentence must be applied to ‘satisfy the collective conscience’ of the nation; or the clearly political motivations in the haste with which Kasab was executed," Mander said in the article. He, however, admitted that Kasab’s “trial was fair, his conviction just, his crime merciless and horrendous therefore many celebrated his hanging as fitting closure to a people traumatised by his offence.”

“But I was among those who believed that his hasty execution was an exercise in collective revenge unworthy of a humane people, and would have greatly preferred instead the application of public compassion,” he wrote adding even the most unrepentant criminal who wrongs us most grievously, still is worthy of our compassion. For her part, Aruna Roy refused to comment saying she has been travelling for 10 hours and was very tired. She said that at the age of 67, a 15-hour work schedule had tired her so much that she was not in a position to give any reaction immediately and so The Pioneer should send her an SMS. The SMS sent went unreplied. But later, Nikhil Dey spoke for himself and on Roy’s behalf too. Dey said he and Roy are against death penalty and wanted that instead of being executed Kasab should have been imprisoned for long. “We are not for death penalty. It is our long standing position that death penalty be abolished. We didn’t want clemency or mercy for Kasab, but wanted that he should be imprisoned for life,” he said, adding that generally Fidayeens want to kill themselves to project themselves as martyrs and death penalty

Source Pioneer :http://www.dailypioneer.com/images/PDF/today_epaper.pdf

[sum]

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Yashwant wants Modi as BJP's PM candidate; snubs Nitish

Senior Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] leader and former finance minister Yashwant Sinha [ Images ] has asked newly-appointed party president Rajnath Singh to name Gujarat Chief Minister Narendre Modi as the party's official prime ministerial candidate for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections.

“If Nitish Kumar (Bihar CM and leader of Janata Dal-United, crucial alliance partner of BJP-led NDA) is not happy let him quit the alliance. Modi can lead the way," Sinha said.

Taking a dig at Nitish Kumar, who has been a vocal critique of Modi’s ‘communal politics’, Sinha said, either the whole party is communal or its not, but only one individual (Modi) should not be dubbed as communal.

[Gus]

where do these people come from..I feel like bashing my head on the wall..

[Muppalla]

But the latest snake on the TV is RNS for PM. Now RNS is what can be called a 'Limp Hindu' quite like the 'Limp Sikh' we have for the PM these days. And you know RNS, he is the kind of guy best serving the other guys interest instead of his own. The kind given to sensibilites. Bharat can hardly afford such chicanery.

There is a reason why people need to close negotiations fast. Even if done in secret and involving ..... It is important to get the other party to commit by way of 'sunk investment'. If RSS keeps quite about this latest thing on news channels and RNS gets foisted then they deserve to loose and whatever can come after that. RNS is RSS boy at least in the current context and they hold the responsibility for this Limp Hindu.

I don't know if TV is cooking this snake oil and it is no more a surprise as TV is spreading everything except truth. However, RSS is also not a surprise as it springs someone from its sleeve who is neither popular nor known as some super-duper dude.

With Modi you have a serious challenger in 2014, and anyone else it is a walkover for UPA-3. RNS is a disaster to be PM material but he does have ambitions. Read Chauti Duniya article.

[muraliravi]

But the latest snake on the TV is RNS for PM. Now RNS is what can be called a 'Limp Hindu' quite like the 'Limp Sikh' we have for the PM these days. And you know RNS, he is the kind of guy best serving the other guys interest instead of his own. The kind given to sensibilites. Bharat can hardly afford such chicanery.

There is a reason why people need to close negotiations fast. Even if done in secret and involving ..... It is important to get the other party to commit by way of 'sunk investment'. If RSS keeps quite about this latest thing on news channels and RNS gets foisted then they deserve to loose and whatever can come after that. RNS is RSS boy at least in the current context and they hold the responsibility for this Limp Hindu.

I don't know if TV is cooking this snake oil and it is no more a surprise as TV is spreading everything except truth. However, RSS is also not a surprise as it springs someone from its sleeve who is neither popular nor known as some super-duper dude.

With Modi you have a serious challenger in 2014, and anyone else it is a walkover for UPA-3. RNS is a disaster to be PM material but he does have ambitions. Read Chauti Duniya article.

I think the game is very simple here. Rajnath does have pm ambitions but he realizes that he cannot do it by himself. Modi too has pm ambitions and even though gung ho modi fans may think he can pull it off himself' , there is no way he can do that by alienating significant parts of the organization. So an agreement has been reached between modi and rajnath. Let's bring our strengths together and let's get 180 seats and then we can discuss who will become what. Rajnath may not be a changed man, but he realizes very well that without showing modi at the front end, bjp won't cross 140 seats. With less than 140 seats his own dreams are gone. So they will go for a strategy where modi is shown as the face of the bjp ( election chairman or some fancy title), but just stop short of declaring him the pm nominee. Rajnath will assure modi that he will control anti modi people in bjp and RSS and ensure no sabotage.

Modi in return will do the following:
if bjp crosses 190 seats where not many coaltion partners are not needed, ask for pm post and make rajnath home minister.

If bjp falls short of that and needs sickular parties for forming govt, give pm post to rajnath and take a different portfolio.

Rajnath might try to make bjp just fall short of 190 so that he can be pm, but that is what this new relationship and trust building exercise between them is all about, let's not screw each other, let's first get Max seats.

[Singha]

>> RNS is a disaster to be PM material

I would rate anyone higher than Rahul gandhi, that "natural birthright" claimant for the PMs chair from the UPA and sickular alliance.

[svenkat]

The liberal DNA

X posted from Humour thread

Newsweek apologises to Rahul Gandhi

In particular, we reported that 'after a year of college in Delhi, Gandhi took economic courses both at Cambridge and Harvard, but failed to earn a degree'. In fact, while Gandhi was at Harvard in 1991, his father, Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi, was assassinated. Serious, immediate and life-threatening security concerns compelled Gandhi to transfer to Rollins College in Florida, from which he graduated with a BA in 1994. Gandhi went on to receive an M Phil in Development Economics from Trinity College, Cambridge University, contrary to what we had said. Thereafter, as we previously reported, Gandhi joined the Monitor Group, a leading, global-strategy consulting group, in London, where he worked for three years. Hence the references in Newseek's article to Gandhi having 'failed to earn a degree' or that he did not 'stick with the job for very long' are wrong."

Another, with just a quick query on google, is, for example, this rediff story:
Cambridge confirms Rahul's MPhil

I have no delusions about Rahuls intellectual or leadership qualities.But facts are important.

[Karan M]

What facts? The claims made above are pure semantics. Three years in a job for a 42 year old man? Thats sticking for long? What a joke. What exactly did he do in those three years btw? MPhil in developmental economics? Another fluff degree for a privileged scion like the MBA from Harvard for bush, at least that carried more weight. I am sorry but none of this cuts any ice with those of us who know exactly what all this BS is worth. Folks who are INC supporters may be impressed with these paper claims or more cynically use them to play up this guy, but what matters is the reality. A senior just pointed out that RUssi Mody had a BA compare his dedication and work ethic to this gasbag. In India we have paid a huge price fr going with all these manufactured catchets of privilege as versus identifying the real workers and doers, the reason why more and more doers are increasingly cynical the moment they hear of these claims..
All these manufactured qualifications are exactly that because each time Rahul opens his mouth, its akin to seeing the inside of a wind tunnel....an empty chamber.

[RajeshA]

In support of Ralph Maino Gandhi, I'd like to say, I like his dedication to go to the Gym. Even for Republic Day, he didn't give it a miss!

[svenkat]

What facts?

That Rahul is an idiot and imbecile is well known.But he still has a BA,a M.Phil in Devl E-con(whatever it is) and three years in some consulting group.Each of this degree/job has relevance to the job he is being groomed for.I dont see a huge difference between Rahuls degree etc and the edn/experience son of a big businessman who is groomed to take over.

The Congress is big business which manages India.It manages multiple identities,multiple conflict of interests.I think Rahuls degrees etc are perfectly right for his job.What does Congress do? It supports Indian businesses,Indian businesses profit making,reservations for OBCs/SCs,jobs for technocrats,subsidies for poor.I suppose Developmental Economics is relevant to this profile.

Until Narendrabhai comes out with a game changing vision for India which has widespread(no need for even majority support much less total) support,there will be people who are benefeting from status quo who will tom tom rahuls 'credentials'.

The Congress is the entrenched party.For it these fake qualifications are good enough to continue the status quo because there are other smart people to run the show from behind.

The person who posted this is AmberGji.She is a Professor of Physics in US(if I understand correctly).She has been single handedly responsible for keeping the maths thread alive since its inception.Hardly someone who can be deceived on academic matters.So I suppose I have a point in X posting her post.

[Singha]

In support of Ralph Maino Gandhi, I'd like to say, I like his dedication to go to the Gym. Even for Republic Day, he didn't give it a miss!

I thought damadji was more the 5* gym type, but looks like he has a willing understudy.

hopefully one day soon we will have the indian PM qualify for boston or atleast run the SCMM-mumbai take that Namo!

[Sanku]

The person who posted this is AmberGji.She is a Professor of Physics in US(if I understand correctly).She has been single handedly responsible for keeping the maths thread alive since its inception.Hardly someone who can be deceived on academic matters.So I suppose I have a point in X posting her post.

I dont understand you, who is making the proposition that a brain dead job given a favor to a moron who can not by himself qualify to be a mc d clerk (with all respects to those hard working folks) is supposed to be a credential for running the country?

Whose proposition is this?

[RoyG]

I think the game is very simple here. Rajnath does have pm ambitions but he realizes that he cannot do it by himself. Modi too has pm ambitions and even though gung ho modi fans may think he can pull it off himself' , there is no way he can do that by alienating significant parts of the organization. So an agreement has been reached between modi and rajnath. Let's bring our strengths together and let's get 180 seats and then we can discuss who will become what. Rajnath may not be a changed man, but he realizes very well that without showing modi at the front end, bjp won't cross 140 seats. With less than 140 seats his own dreams are gone. So they will go for a strategy where modi is shown as the face of the bjp ( election chairman or some fancy title), but just stop short of declaring him the pm nominee. Rajnath will assure modi that he will control anti modi people in bjp and RSS and ensure no sabotage.

Modi in return will do the following:
if bjp crosses 190 seats where not many coaltion partners are not needed, ask for pm post and make rajnath home minister.

If bjp falls short of that and needs sickular parties for forming govt, give pm post to rajnath and take a different portfolio.

Rajnath might try to make bjp just fall short of 190 so that he can be pm, but that is what this new relationship and trust building exercise between them is all about, let's not screw each other, let's first get Max seats.

IMO, Rajnath isn't that stupid. He is going to need every seat he can get in order to first dislodge UPA-3. Sabotaging the BJP is too risky. I think Modi has guaranteed him a good position if he plays ball.

[svenkat]

Sankuji,
I just cross posted Ambergjis post.Karan asked: what facts? My reply was: Rahul has some degrees and 'experience'.They count for very little in my eyes.Yet AmberGji was indignant enough to post with some comments in Humour thread.

What I am saying this is:These are 'valid' degrees.If Ambergji is ready to defend them,they must have some 'validity'.

I am not saying AmberGji is suppporting Rahuls claims.But the validity of these degrees and the 'relevance' of these for the job Rahul is being groomed for are very not different from the education/experience for a successor in a business family.

And Since nowadays Cong is run like a business entity(that of 'managing' India) these 'valid' degrees will be tom tomed by rahuls supporters,though in our eyes these are BS qualifications.My original post was in response to Singhas and also the general perceptions that Rahul barely passed 12th std and he did not go any further.We must know the 'facts' of the case,was my original intervention.

[Sanku]

What I am saying this is:These are 'valid' degrees.If Ambergji is ready to defend them,they must have some 'validity'.

Venkat-ji; I question AmberG-ji's proposition. I grant you that she is knowledgeable in maths, but that hardly is sufficient ground for her knowledge to be considered as reliable in other spheres.

Furthermore, I will not agree to a appeal to authority as a argument, I say that AmberG was making no sense what so ever when she made the assertion. I have no clue what she had in mind, and since I have not seen her direct words, I am not in any position to engage them.

The only thing that can be said is -- Rahul's degree and work experience are all toilet paper, just like Shekar Duppatta rag now. The comparison with biz families is not valid because before being given a important job, the family puts their members through the trenches where they must prove themselves before being given the top job.

In cases where they dont, the scions fail, spectacularly, but a pvt company is a biz of its owners. Is India now Rahul Maino ke baap ka maal?

[svenkat]

Sankuji,
AmberGji has given the links.It is in her post and my post.Regarding his actual capabilities,we shouldnt wasting so much time.

[Theo_Fidel]

Svenkat,

The main problem for me WRT RG is that he does NOT talk, write or communicate like a thoughtful educated person. We may not agree with PVNR or Nehru or ABV but even when they spoke it was clear that there was decades of education, and self application that went behind their communication. The educated constantly apply themselves and improve their skills and work on aspects of their illiteracy. RG does none of this, or if he does, it is not taking. His thought process is a complete jumble and he can not start and finish a single idea without bouncing around aimlessly and pointlessly. I'm sorry, this may be elitist, but he sounds like an illiterate to me, despite his degrees. We made fun of RG1 for instance but there was never a question about his educational capacity, not brilliant but literate.

IMHO RG2 is not a literate person.

That said I do agree with the rest of what you said. The congress is very much like a business enterprise. And the way things are structured it is inevitable that RG2 will get to power. The one key point would also be that at present there is no obvious national opposition, at least one that is united.

[nachiket]

Talking about RG's academic qualifications is futile. Our present PM's substantial qualifications aren't in question. Yet his government has managed to grind our economy into dust in the last 5 years.

RG's great grandfather also seemed to be academically qualified to lead the nation. Yet the chinese made a monkey out of him. And he started the economic policies that hamstrung our nation for 40 years.

So whether RG got his M. Phil or not is beside the point. He can be a nincompoop with or without a degree.

[RamaY]

^ Problem with what passes as education and literacy. Tools are being confused with skills/capabilities.

[nachiket]

The one key point would also be that at present there is no obvious national opposition, at least one that is united.

There is. If people manage to look beyond their prejudices and preconceptions. I guess one of the reasons this thread was started was to make more people understand this. There seem to be many, even on BRF who still fall for the old TINA argument.

[Theo_Fidel]

I dunno. You are jumping to TINA needlessly. You are trying to do opposition with a subsect of the folks who oppose this government. This may succeed but the outcome is in doubt, when it should not be for such an unpopular government.

[member_20317]

Theo ji,

You do not even need a man with family, charisma and communication. LBS had none. But in politics it is a crime to bet on an inexperienced man baby. A babe who repeats what the original man baby, his father used to say, little realising that it was their family which brought all this upon this country.

Performance on actual deliverables is something that can be talked about after this sheer inexperience is addressed.

[Sushupti]

Note: This post is merely meant to be a parody and does not intend to offend any religious/ideological sentiments. It is dedicated to @bakchodanand, a young Congress supporter, who has inspired me to write this.

LOWL CHALISA

Jai Shree Araam, Shree Bahutmate Namah

Shree Sonia Charan Saroj Raj, Nijadhanu Mukuru Sudhaari;
Barnau Raul Vinci Bimal Jasu, Jo Khaayeku Fala Hazaari;
Buddhiheen Tenu Maanike, Sumirau Chaman Kumaar;
Bala Buddhi Bidya Dehu Tohe, Harahu Kales Sarkaar

Jai Shrimaan Saeed Gun Sagar,
Jai Shinde Chintan Shivar Ujagar
Kaamdoot Manusinghvi Naama,
Sonia Putra Rajeevsut Pajaama

Minorityvir Owaisi Bedhangi,
Sumati Nivaar Kumati Ke Sanghi
Shwet Varan Niraash Suvesa,
Kaanan Kapaas Vanchit Bhesa

Haath Congressi Dhwaja Viraaje,
Kaandhe Moonje Kulnaam Laade
Nehru Suvan Kesari Ulandhan,
Seweage Pratap Kahaan Jag Vandan (?)

Vidyaheen Aguni Naahi Chaatur,
Kaam Kaaj Karive Ko Na Aatur
Rahul Charitra Sunive Ko Media,
Rajdeep-Burkha Pocket ma Basiya

Sukshma Roop Dhari UP Dikhawa,
Vikat Roop Dalit Ghar Khawa
Bheem Roop Dhari Election Sanhaare,
Narendrabhai Ke Kaaj Sanwaare

Laaye Election Akhilesh Jiyaaye
Shree Netaji Harashi Ur Laaye
Renukaji Keenhi Bahut Badai
Tum Mum Priya, Priyanka Ke Bhai

Sahas Badan Tumhro Hans Gaawen
Us Kahi Digvijay Kanth Lagawe

Sheila Dixit Kalmadi Scindia,
Antony Alagiri Sahit Sonia
Yam Kabhi Digvijay Na Le Jate,
Kabhi Kovid Kahi Sakey Kahante

Tum Upkaar Razahin Kinha,
Azaad Maidan Riotpad Dinha
Tumhro Mantra SuryaG Maana,
Tweetesuwar Bhaye Sab Jag Jana

Jug Sahastra Jojan Par Bhaanu,
Mangiliyo Taahi Physics Phal Najaanu
Dollar Mudrika Meli Airport Maahi,
Jaldhi Giraftari Gaye F.B.I.

Durgam Kaaj Jagat Ke Jete,
Servant Anugraha Tumhre Dicatate-e
Haraam Dooare Tum Rakhwaare,
Hoat Na Aagya Bin Paise Udhare

Sab Youth Lahaye Tumhri Sarna,
Tum Young Leader Kaahu Ko Darna
Aapan Message Samharo Aapaye,
Kauno Lok Haank Te Kaapen (?)

Bhoot Pishaach Nikat Hi Aawe,
Nehru-Gandhi Jab Naam Sunawe
Vote bank Hare Sab Fakeera,
Japat Nirantar Bahutmat Beera

Sankat Te Pranab Chhoodawe,
Mum Krama Budget Dhyaan Jo Laawe
Sab Par Diggy Tapaswi Raja,
Tin Ke Kaaj Sakal Sanjay Jha Saaja
Aur Manmohan Jo Koi Badhaawe,
Soi Rajya Sabha Seat Paawe

Chaaro Jug Pashchataap Tumhara,
Hai Parsiddh Jagat UP-hara
Kaale Dhan Ke Tum Rakhwaare,
Asur Nandan Naam Tuhaare
Asta Siddhi Nau Nidhi Naahi Aata,
Janam Deen Sonia Maata

Beimaan Rasayan Tumhre Paasa,
Sada Rahe Rashtrapati Tohe Daasa
Tumhre Bhajan Promotion Ko Paawe,
Janam-Janam Ke Dukh Yaad Karaawe
Antakaal Italy Pur Jaayee,
Jahan Janam Hari-patti Kahayee

Aur Neta Chitt Na Dharayi,
Rahul Sei Sarba Dukh Karai

Candidacy Mile Mite Sab Peera,
Jo Sumiraye Bahumat Balbira
Jai Jai Jai Raul Vinci Gosaai,
Kripa Karahun Ticket Ki Naai

Jo Sat Baar Paath Kare Koi,
Chhootahin Tangi Ticket-sukh Hoyi
Jo Yeh Padhe Lowl Chalisa,
Hoye Promote Saakhi Gaurisa

Writerdas Sada Atheistchera,
Kije Naath Tihaar Mahn Dera

Nehrutanaye EVM Haran, Ottavio Quattrocchi Roop;
Priyanka Sonia Vadra Sahit, News Hour Basahu Soor Bhoop

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