Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 07:10

Real target of the latest charge sheet against Gulab Kataria is Narendra Modi.

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4427542.cms

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 07:47

Reason why dynasty isn't worried about Chouhan or Raman Singh. These guys don't challenge handout state model of Nehru and his progeny. And this is how "Loh Purush" want's BJP to be.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 08:12

Uma Bharti sings Modi tune, peddles for progress on Seedhi Baat

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/uma- ... 69454.html

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 08:17

@offstumped 45s

Fear of Modi manifests itself in curious and pedantic ways

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 May 2013 08:19

"media playing mischief" is the favorite excuse of Advani apologists.

Anyway, Uma Bharati is not denying her own statements. She has clearly changed her tune.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 09:01

Suspense over BJP's PM candidate may end soon

The suspense over projecting a prime ministerial candidate might get over with the BJP expected to convene its central parliamentary board meeting towards the end of next month to decide the electoral strategy for the next general elections.

The BJP has so far maintained that the parliamentary board will take a call whether Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi should be showcased as the prime ministerial candidate given the demand by a section within the party.

Interestingly, Modi himself was drafted into the highest decision making body after a gap of six years by Rajnath Singh when he had announced his new team on March 31.
“We will convene a parliamentary board meeting in June end to decide when to start distributing tickets for the Lok Sabha elections,” the BJP president said.

When asked whether the parliamentary board in its next month meeting will also take a call on whether to project prime ministerial candidate, Singh hinted, “It might also be discussed”.

Singh, however, reiterated that the decision on whether Modi should be projected as prime ministerial candidate or allowed to lead the election committee will be taken by the parliamentary board.

National executive

Prior to that, the BJP will hold its three-day national executive meeting in Goa from June 7, where the party will discuss the UPA-II’s four years in power which it completes next month and discuss the election which would be held in states including Delhi, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chhattisgarh, besides the general polls.
The BJP president also said that within a week’s time, the party will make public the states-in-charge list so that the political machinery in states is automated to the poll requirements.

The BJP has already completed about 40 per cent of assessment of different parliamentary constituencies spread over states such as Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chhattisgarh, the BJP president said.

At the same time, the party is also organising state-wise election surveys of some of the regions which would work as a back up for putting up a blueprint of electoral management. Without getting into details, Singh said that “in some states where internal poll surveys are going on, we are ahead of Congress”.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/332 ... idate.html

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 May 2013 10:15

Pranav wrote:"media playing mischief" is the favorite excuse of Advani apologists.

Anyway, Uma Bharati is not denying her own statements. She has clearly changed her tune.

I dont know about whether pointing out the discrepancy between media spin and actual statement is an excuse, but we do know that blatant lying the Favorited tactic of AAP types, who pretend to be one thing while actually doing something else.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 May 2013 10:20

Sushupti wrote: Reason why dynasty isn't worried about Chouhan or Raman Singh. These guys don't challenge handout state model of Nehru and his progeny. And this is how "Loh Purush" want's BJP to be.

Completely untrue, BJP leaders are not stupid to try "one stick fits all" approach, BJP has to compete in the same space as congress, and welfare schemes work (which btw has strong supporter in NaMo)

Even NaMo has to also use politics of distribution -- remember the Congress Ghau nu Ghar scheme and BJPs response?

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... bjp-leader

http://deshgujarat.com/2012/12/03/gujar ... wide-wifi/

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/guja ... 35799.html

It has become extraordinarily painful to see people putting forth FUD to create schims in BJP and run BJP down on some pretext or other.

Ostensibly these are NaMo supporters, but there could not be a wider variance in kathni and karni.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 May 2013 10:25

Arjun wrote:Let me predict one thing - If Modi is not made PM candidate resulting (as is most likely) in BJP losing in 2014, the RSS/BJP is going to see a large section of the support that it currently gets desert it permanently in the future.

1) Not a chance -- on the ground, the support for BJP will be based on social engineering that BJP does, its caste equations, these things are not changed due to NaMo being there or not. NaMo is good, but NaMo is not be all and end all, this perception can only be had on internet.

BJP will win or lose based on grass root organization building over long term. There are no short cuts, even if NaMo was harihar himself.

2) There is nothing permanent in politics -- one week is a long time in politics and 10 years is short.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 16 May 2013 10:50

Sanku wrote:
Arjun wrote:Let me predict one thing - If Modi is not made PM candidate resulting (as is most likely) in BJP losing in 2014, the RSS/BJP is going to see a large section of the support that it currently gets desert it permanently in the future.
1) Not a chance -- on the ground, the support for BJP will be based on social engineering that BJP does, its caste equations, these things are not changed due to NaMo being there or not. NaMo is good, but NaMo is not be all and end all, this perception can only be had on internet.

BJP will win or lose based on grass root organization building over long term. There are no short cuts, even if NaMo was harihar himself.

2) There is nothing permanent in politics -- one week is a long time in politics and 10 years is short.

Well let me speak for myself then and extrapolate as I think appropriate for others. If NaMo is not made PM candidate AND the NDA loses (note the AND here) - there is at least one BJP supporter who would prefer to work long term and have Modi step out of his confines away from the RSS/BJP. And that is myself. You may argue there will not be many who will think like me - that is a question we can settle later...

I don't disagree on the value of the party/organization. For election success you need a real leader AND you need a strong and effective organization. I would give 50% weightage to each of the two. If NaMo is not made PM candidate and the NDA loses - that would be a signal to me that neither is their organizational strength effective nor is their leadership selection process.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 11:10

“Construction work on Dholera city should be able to start within the next 6 month”

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/05/16/const ... t-6-month/

Even if 25% of Dholera and Kapasar gets completed Modi will start dwarfing every leader worth his salt in the minds of people in every nook and corner of the country.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 11:19

Sanku wrote:
Sushupti wrote: Reason why dynasty isn't worried about Chouhan or Raman Singh. These guys don't challenge handout state model of Nehru and his progeny. And this is how "Loh Purush" want's BJP to be.
Completely untrue, BJP leaders are not stupid to try "one stick fits all" approach, BJP has to compete in the same space as congress, and welfare schemes work (which btw has strong supporter in NaMo)

Even NaMo has to also use politics of distribution -- remember the Congress Ghau nu Ghar scheme and BJPs response?

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... bjp-leader

http://deshgujarat.com/2012/12/03/gujar ... wide-wifi/

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/guja ... 35799.html

It has become extraordinarily painful to see people putting forth FUD to create schims in BJP and run BJP down on some pretext or other.

Ostensibly these are NaMo supporters, but there could not be a wider variance in kathni and karni.

Any people empowerment idea/scheme by these two BJP CMs which challenges "Handout" state model?. Sincere question, i would be happy to know if there is any.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 May 2013 11:30

Loh purush getting mud on this dhoti...

New Delhi: In an embarrassment for Bharatiya Janata Party patriarch LK Advani, a party leader and close aide of Karnataka Janata Paksha chief BS Yeddyurappa, Lehar Singh Siroya, has written a tell-all open letter. He has alleged that Advani compromised on corruption in the past when it suited his own interest.

The letter that severely criticises Advani has been sent to him and BJP President Rajnath Singh by Lahar Singh Siroya. Siroya has slammed Advani for taking the high moral ground over corruption and pushing for the removal of BS Yeddyurappa, which cost the BJP in the state election dearly.

He has accused Advani of turning a blind eye towards corruption when it suited him. Siroya says Advani never inquired where the money came from for his rallies and yatras and neither did he ask the source of funding that brought the BJP to power in Karnataka in 2008 and gave the BJP its largest contingent of MPs in the 2009 Lok Sabha polls.

Lehar Singh Siroya says LK Advani never enquired where the money came from for his rallies.

Siroya is close to BS Yeddyurappa and his letter reflects a growing call within the party to bring the former Karnataka chief minister back into the fold.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 16 May 2013 11:39

Sanku ji, the only reason people still support BJP is because they perceive it as better then the alternative available in Indian polity.

The only reason NM gets support within BJP is because people perceive him better then the alternative available within BJP.

People do think of alternatives. The dispensability you talk of is equally applicable to 'BJP minus NaMo'. Karnataka showed that recently.

People support themselves not some neta/party. Our job is to support ourselves and our people.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 16 May 2013 14:38

Atri wrote:
pandurangahari wrote:Misgovernance is the bane and unless its improved, corruption will live on. Congress cannot give governance. It's unacceptable to defend corruption. Congress will have to commit soosai. They have no other honourable way out. If the do it in 2014 or later is a moot point. The economy of India is at the edge of a precipice. I doubt if Modi or anyone else can rescue it from here on. A clean slate start is the only choice.

Let congis deal with their own scorched earth policy. Indian janata need to suffer more to realise how bad it is. Right now moving to massa land is a choice. But will massa land hold promise for SDREs when their economy is in shambles? JMT
Thats my bichhda hua judwa bhai speaking. Bhich kumbhmela, saar?

You are my guruji Atri ji. I wasnot aware of this angle until I really dwelled on what you had written.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 May 2013 15:12

When Modi speaks of Federalism, besides being an article of faith for him, it is also an instrument with which he hopes to blunt the Congress schemes of bribing the voters directly.

Modi wants that the states have a say in these Ponzi Schemes of the Congress. If the Congress goes through the state administration, then often the state's administration would get credit, but as Congress states decrease due to emergence of regional satraps, all the schemes would not help Congress if they are carried out by state governments.

Modi spoke of Federalism at Kolkata. He needs to build an alliance of non-Congress state governments and insist that all these schemes even if hair-brained and populist, they should go through the state government. There should be no direct transfer of goodies from the center to the citizen.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 May 2013 15:14

Sushupti wrote:
Any people empowerment idea/scheme by these two BJP CMs which challenges "Handout" state model?. Sincere question, i would be happy to know if there is any.

Well Sushupti ji; you posted one yourself claiming that "SSC was copying NaMo"; remember that one? -- I dont think any one copies anyone, the conditions are different, people do different things as they are appropriate in the local context, while aligned with the over all model.

http://namoleague.wordpress.com/tag/jyo ... e/page/10/

Gujarat’s Jyotigram scheme ensures 24×7 domestic electricity to all villages, but it’s not free. Madhya Pradesh now proposes to adopt Jyotigram too.

And agriculture?

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/madh ... 42261.html

Madhya Pradesh is making giant strides to emerge as one of India's fastest developing states, and its achievement has been particularly noteworthy in the agriculture sector.

This year, the state has even surpassed India's "grain bowl" Punjab by taking its food-grain production up by 19 per cent, the biggest jump among all states in India.
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More here...

http://www.mpinfo.org/mpinfonew/cm_shiv ... /index.asp

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 16 May 2013 15:31

If NM can make Kalpasar a reality, he will gain a following to establish a dynasty in Gujarat, that is the acuteness of the problem. NM lost most of the seats in the parts where water is the main problem (North Gujarat, interior Saurashtra). Please refer attached map. Shows the target of this scheme.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 May 2013 15:48

Kalpasar, Narmada Dam, Dolhera, Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor Project, Statue of Unity would change the whole game!

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 May 2013 16:13

Sanku wrote:
Sushupti wrote:
Any people empowerment idea/scheme by these two BJP CMs which challenges "Handout" state model?. Sincere question, i would be happy to know if there is any.

Well Sushupti ji; you posted one yourself claiming that "SSC was copying NaMo"; remember that one? -- I dont think any one copies anyone, the conditions are different, people do different things as they are appropriate in the local context, while aligned with the over all model.

http://namoleague.wordpress.com/tag/jyo ... e/page/10/

Gujarat’s Jyotigram scheme ensures 24×7 domestic electricity to all villages, but it’s not free. Madhya Pradesh now proposes to adopt Jyotigram too.

My curiosity brought me to this video and one doesn't get good impression.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 May 2013 18:38

Tragedy of the Five Star Party - Too many cooks: BJP fails to present a strong alternative to a discredited UPA

In an ideal situation, they could be the Fabulous Five. Their collective talent-varying from organisational acumen to strategic thinking to good governance-could be an internal asset and the opponent's envy. But they are fast proving to be the fatal five for the party's future as General Elections loom. They are united only by ambition, which itself is not a bad thing in politics. In BJP, however, a prerequisite for the realisation of each one's ambition is the other's fall.

One man has already stolen a march over the others: Modi has not only become the first among equals but his campaign for India has become a political force rarely seen before in the country. He is determined to make himself inevitable to the party, if not India. The party is still struggling to come to terms with him. The one leader most unsettled by the rise of Modi is Advani, the man who worked most, and walked long, to bring bjp to power. But he served those five years as Number Two to Atal Bihari Vajpayee. At 85, he badly wants to be Number One, once in his lifetime. It is not a sentiment shared by his former proteges, for that is what they, too, want to be.

From the diarchy of Vajpayee-Advani, the party is now caught between the warring aspirations of these five stars. Advani, Jaitley, Sushma and Rajnath know the party cadre want Modi as captain but they would like to delay that as much as possible or at least keep his proposed elevation as chairman of the campaign committee as vaguely defined as possible. They would like to benefit from his popular appeal but not submit themselves to what they fear will be his ruthless, take-no-prisoners style of functioning.

I don't have time to post full article. Please someone should do it as I don't know if IT allows to get the archives freely. It is a great compilation.(good or bad)

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 May 2013 18:44

What the BJP needs is a Union of Grassroots Workers, the counter the strangle-hold of the tall leaders.

This Union should be formed, a meetings should be convened in each state capital, and it should pass, by secret ballot, a national-level resolution regarding the PM candidate and election committee chairman.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 May 2013 18:52

Pranav wrote:What the BJP needs is a Union of Grassroots Workers, the counter the strangle-hold of the tall leaders.
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Since when are the AAP types leftists well wishers of a right wing communal party?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 May 2013 19:06

Sanku wrote:
Pranav wrote:What the BJP needs is a Union of Grassroots Workers, the counter the strangle-hold of the tall leaders.
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Since when are the AAP types leftists well wishers of a right wing communal party?

Theek hain, call it a Sangh of Grassroots Workers.

Tall leaders should have no reason to fear the majority decisions of the grassroots, hain ji?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 16 May 2013 19:21

Pranav wrote:What the BJP needs is a Union of Grassroots Workers, the counter the strangle-hold of the tall leaders.

This Union should be formed, a meetings should be convened in each state capital, and it should pass, by secret ballot, a national-level resolution regarding the PM candidate and election committee chairman.

Union? We've had enough of bandh politics in India.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 16 May 2013 19:23

Pranav wrote: Theek hain, call it a Sangh of Grassroots Workers.

Tall leaders should have no reason to fear the majority decisions of the grassroots, hain ji?

They dont, thats how its done, casting votes is not the only form of majority decision by grassroots. Its the BJP "well wishers" who have all this problems, very little in BJP.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 May 2013 19:32

Sanku wrote:
Pranav wrote: Theek hain, call it a Sangh of Grassroots Workers.

Tall leaders should have no reason to fear the majority decisions of the grassroots, hain ji?
They dont, thats how its done, casting votes is not the only form of majority decision by grassroots.

Now you are obfuscating.

Tall leaders should stop being afraid of direct democracy, in which the grassroots will directly make specific policy decisions.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 May 2013 19:34

RoyG wrote:
Pranav wrote:What the BJP needs is a Union of Grassroots Workers, the counter the strangle-hold of the tall leaders.

This Union should be formed, a meetings should be convened in each state capital, and it should pass, by secret ballot, a national-level resolution regarding the PM candidate and election committee chairman.
Union? We've had enough of bandh politics in India.

Bhai Sahab, take the word "Sangh" and translate it into the foreign language you use on BRF.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 May 2013 19:56

I think Congress's plan for 2014

1. Use MSM to create a == between Congress and the only opposition BJP irrespective of the issue. Any issue/scam will have to have "Both BJp and Congress are guilty...." theme. This will keep 40% of dhimmi population confused.

2. Then work to form Muslim+christian+Dalit Christian vote bank to definitely work against BJP. This is an assured 20-25% vote share. Use NREGA to pay Rs20-40,000 per annum to these groups under poverty alleviation schemes

3. Exaggerate any and every intra-BJp statements to create confusion among BJP support group. If possible get some of the disgruntled BJP leaders to start their own parties. Potential impact on BJP 5-10% assured vote share.

Now try to understand NM and BJP's counter strategy using this guide.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 16 May 2013 20:05

Modi is trying different strategies, some of which are panning out.

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130515.htm

Ever since the Sivagiri Mutt in Kerala invited Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as the chief guest of the Sree Narayana Dharma Meemamsa Parishad, Kerala politics has taken a new direction.

What has become interesting is the coming together of two major Hindu groups -- the Shree Narayana Dharma Paripalana Yogam and the Nair Service Society. Till now, the SNDP, largely representing the Ezhavas and the NSS representing the Nairs in Kerala, had resisted sharing the same platform.

Now, the leaders of both the groups are talking about the coming together of the two major communities and if it really happens, it can change the political scene in Kerala that has been dominated by the Congress-led United Democratic Front and the Communist-led Left Democratic Front.

Was inviting Narendra Modi to the golden jubilee of the Sree Narayana Dharma Meemamsa Parishad a decision of the Sivagiri Mutt alone or does the SNDP have any role in it?

The SNDP has absolutely no role in it. It was a decision taken by the mutt. We were not there on the dias also. Who should be invited for the celebration of the mutt is the prerogative of the Dharma Meemamsa Parishad. We have no authority there.

Pinarayi Vijayan said by inviting Modi for the celebrations, the mutt has lost its secular credentials. What do you have to say about that?

Modi came only now. Do you know, before that, L K Advani had come but at that time, nobody had uttered a word. That was a bigger meet than this one. They raised this kind of accusations only when Modi visited. If these people had kept quiet, nobody would have even known about his visit. Modi's visit became national news only because these people made all kinds of noise.

What I am saying is, you try to see the good things Modi has done, the development work he has done for his state.

It is now said that it was the Modi effect that is responsible for the SNDP and NSS holding discussions for a possible coming together. Is it true?

It is not the Modi Effect. We are meeting and talking so that the majority community can get all the benefits that they truly deserve. Of course, our common platform will have a secular outlook. When we talk about our rights, we are also talking about the scheduled castes and scheduled tribes who have been denied many of their rights.

What we see in Kerala is, both the political fronts in Kerala compete with each other to provide all the power, wealth, facilities and benefits only to the minority communities. This resulted in political power resting only in the hands of the minorities with the majority community being totally sidelined.

Do you really feel the majority community has no role in ruling the state?

Is there any doubt about that? Who has all the wealth? Who has all the land? In every field, there is an uneven distribution. When you distribute wealth, power and land, it has to be divided equally among all the people of the state. It may seem small but you look at the personal staff of all the ministers, who dominates there?

When these ministers are elected by people from all communities, how can they favour only one community? Is it right when these ministers behave as if they are the ministers of only their own community?

Both the UDF and LDF also say they are secular fronts?

What secularism are they talking about? Just by saying, we are secular, nobody becomes secular. It is a very beautiful word but it is the most abused word here. If you want to see the monstrous face of secularism, you have to only look at the personal staff of all these ministers.

We have been independent for more than six decades but have the scheduled castes and tribes in India tasted independence even today? Except shouting for their rights, what have all those in power done for these marginalised communities?

Will this alliance develop into a political party?

There is no chance of this alliance turning into a political party. Our aim is to be a political force.

You have two political fronts in Kerala, the UDF and the LDF. To which side will this alliance lean?

We will have no leanings towards any of the fronts. We will not look towards the right or the left; we would only utter some of the social truth that has not found expression so far.

Without taking a political stance, how far can you achieve what you stand for?

To make politicians and political parties see the truth, it is not essential to be a political party. More than that, we can indulge in pressure tactics if we are a formidable power. If we want to be a formidable power, we have to stand united. To some extent, it will help us get justice.

You must understand that we have no plan to grab what other communities have; we want to give justice to all the people whether they are Ezhavas or Nairs or Namboodiris. Justice should not be only on paper; it should be for people.

Kerala is said to be a 100% literate state but many political parties in Kerala are based on either caste or religion. What do you have to say about this? Is this right?

No, it is not right. A government should be ruling for all people and not for any particular caste or religion. But what do we see? All the parties, whether of the left or right, they all encourage and give importance only to particular religious groups. They make them part of their alliance and use them as vote banks. This is what we see today. Is this not a tragedy?

There is no ideology in politics; only opportunism. They are only interested in exploiting caste and religion and in no time, Kerala will once again be a lunatic asylum like Swami Vivekananda said once.

What do people want? Development. Nothing else. Can Kerala politicians achieve at least 10% of what Modi did in Gujarat? Didn't he take Nano plant to Gujarat from West Bengal by giving them electricity, land and water? Can any politician in Kerala help start something like that here? When you talk about the Modi Model, you look at his development model and forget the politics he follows. Shibu Baby John meeting Modi and trying to learn the development model he follows there, has been looked upon as a crime by the ruling party. How narrow minded these people are! You should have an open mind to appreciate the good done by anyone.

We need such a game changer in AP, W.Bengal, Orissa too.

However shaddula sir may be bewitched by the great development mindset of K'taka Congress, K'taka is going to be torn into pieces by the CONgi crooks sooner or later.

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 May 2013 20:20

Narendra modi is rocking in his current speech on opening of an education center.

Talked about the futility of Aryan invasion theory and pointed out that we derided our own culture and produced nothing. Quoting my recollection of parts of his speech from memory. Listen/read speech directly!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 May 2013 20:34

disha wrote:Narendra modi is rocking in his current speech on opening of an education center.

Talked about the futility of Aryan invasion theory and pointed out that we derided our own culture and produced nothing. Quoting my recollection of parts of his speech from memory. Listen/read speech directly!

If damage caused by AIT has become part of his consciousness, then he is certainly a core Bharatiya and knows where to start rebuilding Bharat civilizationally!

Then Modi is not just into the emotional RJB stuff or traditional stuff of visiting some temple or another but he is willing to take on the challenge intellectually. It means Modi has freed himself from Macaulayist Maya in India. It means Modi is intellectually invested in Ancient India. That is something one needs to feel and live if one wants to feel Bharatiya and take on the others. It seems Modi is prepared for taking Bharat into the civilizational wars!

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 May 2013 20:51

NaMo was prepared to take Bharat in 2007/2008 itself, I mentioned that in this forum as well. At that time he talked about Gujarat Asmita leading to Bharat Asmita. Now he will talk about Bharat Asmita and bring in Gujarat as example of what can be achieved.

People need to see hope and a leader delivering on that hope.

GIFT, Dholera, Kalpasar (development) are the visible items to people's material aspirations.
Bharatiya Asmita are emotional items tugging all Indians.

It is a real message of hope rather than the hollow "yes we can" approach. Of course this is a start. The journey is long.

BTW, met a gentleman from Guj. Mentioned that all work that is legal is done and is smooth for "Aam Admi". There is always the little chai-paani stuff, but nobody hears about major items like Chimanbhai Patel taking crores from a bridge that collapsed etc. That itself is a big change for the gentleman. Never expected to witness that change.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 May 2013 20:55

What? Is there a speech today? I was busy and did not know. What is it and where is it?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 May 2013 21:20

disha ji,

Modi inaugurated today KCG's "Pragna Puram" Campus in Ahmedabad as well as Mod Vanik Samaj's School in Ahmedabad. So could you please point out in which speech he spoke about AIT and if possible when.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 16 May 2013 21:37

So are caste-ridden Keralites going to come together finally and dump the Commies and INC? Remains to be seen.

WB update - Mamata is busy smashing all the hopes generated by her. The danger of CPIM comeback are real. There are hushed whispers of looking for a non-Left, non-TMC alternative.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 May 2013 21:38

Published on May 14 2013
By Ujjwala Nayudu
Gujarat cops get a hi-tech eye in sky: Indian Express

As a pilot project to boost surveillance, Gujarat Police have purchased two unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that will be used for the first time in the upcoming Jagannath Rath Yatra in the state.

Chief Minister Narendra Modi had appreciated the project when these UVAs, named "netras", were displayed before him during the recent Gujarat Day function.

According to DIG (modernisation) Rajiv Ranjan Bhagat, these UAVs will give the state police a bird's eye view in terms of surveillance.

"It's a GPS-based automated device fitted with infrared cameras. It uses one of the most advanced technologies available in the market today for aerial surveillance," he said.

The UAVs have been purchased for Rs 55 lakh a piece from a company run by ex-IITians.

Once it takes off, the battery-powered device flies on auto pilot, charting its flight path with the help of anti-collision sensors.

The device, weighing two kgs, is capable of recording every minute detail from a distance of several kilometres, Bhagat said, adding that the footages could be watched in real time at a control room.

The UAV has a speed of 30 kilometres per hour, he said.

Officials involved in police modernisation said these devices would be of great help for threat assessment, police deployment, traffic movement, VIP movement and important festivals and events in the state.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 May 2013 21:47

^^^ above post should be also in the states thread in Tech Forum.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 16 May 2013 22:07

RajeshA wrote:disha ji,

Modi inaugurated today KCG's "Pragna Puram" Campus in Ahmedabad as well as Mod Vanik Samaj's School in Ahmedabad. So could you please point out in which speech he spoke about AIT and if possible when.

In Pragna Puram video NaMo talks about at least 2600 years old universities of Bharat and particularly Valabhi which was near that times oldest port Lothal where 84 countries used to business and student landing on that port must have very little to travel to Valabhi university.

(In the morning I was thinking about Taksh Shila, Nalanda and Vikram Shila that they were real universities in the world of that time uncomparable!)

AIT is false thingies are talked about in Pragna Puram video starting at 8:00.

He knows about scattered efforts that trash AIT but he says coordinated and institute funded efforts are necessary to completely overcome that misunderstanding.

He says, we have lost Nachiketa like questioning attitude and courage that is responsible for stagnancy.

There is no investment like investment done for education and for development of teachers.

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 May 2013 22:12

RajeshA wrote:disha ji,

Modi inaugurated today KCG's "Pragna Puram" Campus in Ahmedabad as well as Mod Vanik Samaj's School in Ahmedabad. So could you please point out in which speech he spoke about AIT and if possible when.

In the former speech (at the pragna puram). He even talked about Nachiketa questioning Yamraj on death and pointed out that we have lost the art of meaningful question. And he did mention "Aryan" (may not have mentioned it as Aryan Invasion theory, but yes it was mentioned in that context). Found the link (http://www.narendramodi.in/cm-stresseso ... gna-puram/). Will listen to it later.