Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 13 Jun 2013 23:58

^ Why these people are bent upon imposing western ideology on Bharat. How many English speaking, Sekooler people even understand what Fascist means ? What is next..NaMo is Racist ?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 Jun 2013 00:20

Sonia upset with anxious PM's deferment of food ordinance

Sonia Gandhi [ Images ] feels the prime minister should not be bothered about the consequences of an ordinance, as the food security legislation is important for the Congress party's electoral future. Renu Mittal reports.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [ Images ] is a worried man.

The food security ordinance listed on the Cabinet's agenda was deferred on Thursday after Dr Singh proposed that the government once again try to bring the Opposition parties on board for the passage of the bill.

The prime minister hopes the bill can be passed in either a special session or in the monsoon session of Parliament, with the support of the Opposition parties.

Highly placed sources in the Congress say party President Sonia Gandhi is upset with the deferment of the ordinance. She either wants the ordinance enacted or the bill passed.

It is learnt she told the prime minister that he should not be bothered about the consequences of the ordinance, as the food security legislation is important for the Congress party.

Sonia Gandhi has been pushing for the bill and sees it as a game changer. She believes it will get the party votes to win the next general election.

The prime minister is concerned that if the ordinance is enacted, the government will have to push for the bill to be passed in the monsoon session of Parliament.

Allies like the Samajwadi Party have threatened to withdraw support to the United Progressive Alliance [ Images ] government if the bill is introduced.

Sources in the Congress party say the prime minister does not want the UPA government to fall at any cost. Dr Singh does not want to take any action that could cut short the life of his government.

Sonia to MMS: Hell with you, India and Indian debt/deficit/Rating and economy. We are talking about my future, my son's future and Billions I transferred to SWISS accounts. All of these are in danger. The conspiracies I hatched with NIA on fixing Hindus, screwing IB and all the cover up of scams. Every thing is at stake.

Does any one think Mulyam will pull the plug? Can BJP give the IB excuse to pull the Govt. down and Mulyam will accept it?

Dr Singh, who is against the ordinance, is reported to have asked Parliamentary Affairs Minister Kamal Nath to take one more shot at bringing Opposition parties around.

Nationalist Congress Party leader and Agriculture Minister Sharad Pawar [ Images ] is said to be in concurrence with the prime minister on this issue.

Pawar made it clear at Thursday's Cabinet meeting that the government try to achieve a consensus to pass the bill.

In view of the falling value of the rupee and the economy's shaky recovery, this makes sense for the prime minister.

A senior Cabinet minister said the government will approach the Opposition parties to know if they want any amendments to the bill.

Till two days ago, the language of both the leaders in the party and the government was different. They said there was no question of a special session of Parliament and the government wanted an ordinance to take full credit for the food security measure. They claimed the Opposition was not serious about cooperating on the issue.

Sources said a reshuffle of the council of ministers is also on the cards. Ministers, who are scheduled to travel, have been asked to cancel their plans.

The food security bill entails an expenditure of Rs 1.25 lakh crore. It would require 62 million tones of food grain annually to implement the government's promise of providing highly subsidised food grain to almost 70 per cent of the population.

The entire subsidy element is against the ethos of the reformist prime minister, which is supplemented by his worry that the government may fall earlier than its due date if any hasty steps are taken.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 14 Jun 2013 01:05

Here is a snap shot of the Sachar Committee report on the state of education among Muslims in India and a few States. It is evident that the condition of Muslims in Gujarat under Mr Modi's rule is the best ! Better than those governed by the so called 'secular' Congress or Left parties. So who is communal ?

Modi Lao Desh Bachao- Narendra Modi For PM

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 14 Jun 2013 01:18

^ to be fair, the stats are bad for all communities in WB, UP and Bihar, no?

communal or not argument is an argument best avoided or only used when necessary, imo.

just the facts that those states have poor development due to poor governance - should be a winning argument???

disha · Post by **disha** » 14 Jun 2013 01:24

Sushupti wrote:

And the blood boils just knowing that.

BTW, I watched Madhu Kishwar on SG., with JP from LokSatta and the other sadak chap dude.,

The topic was on the lines of "Advanced age in Indian politics"

1. Sadak Chap dude did what he was brought into do. Set up a hit job on Modi and targetted Madhu Kishwar.

2. Sagarika's role - very despicable. I saw her after a long long time and her behaviour was worse than the sadak chap dude., she is *not* capable at all of her job as a journalist.

Here are my points:

1. SG has no locus standi on meritocracy. She owes her position because of her relation.

2. Pathetic anchor woman, she was in giggles and enjoying when the sadak chap dude (whatever his name was) went out of topic and started a full frontal assault.

3. Her show runs on such gimmicks - yes., get people together on a platform on a serious topic and then spark a rant fest.

4. I do not call her a wh0re. In medical field have come across cases where I have begun to respect some of them as a person (not in what they do but as humans some do not need our indignation or pity or help., just some understanding). SG is worse than that.

5. Her diction may be great., but that is because she is a macaulyte putri. I call her "gastapo ghose"., because she called Modi supporters on twitter as "gestapo" without understanding the words. CBI is the gestapo now.

words like fascist, nazi, genocide, gestapo are thrown around., without people having a deep understanding of that. IG was a fascist, nazi, genocidal maniac and used IB, CBI, Police as gestapo - during emergency 1977. People forget that.

It is in CONgis blood to be fascist., and that is why they are the first ones to pull that word out - since they know it and hold it so dearly.

A personal note on SG: She looks as if wearing a sari over a bikini and ready to jump into a refreshing swim right after a rant fest., as if played long in muck like a pig. Totally unprofessional., but then she can be - since she has not achieved that position due to any merit.

disha · Post by **disha** » 14 Jun 2013 01:32

Gus wrote:^ to be fair, the stats are bad for all communities in WB, UP and Bihar, no?

communal or not argument is an argument best avoided or only used when necessary, imo.

just the facts that those states have poor development due to poor governance - should be a winning argument???

No., sometimes it is good to have community wide states. For eg. in Gujarat, 90% of women belonging to a certain indic religion are educated upto high school (70% have college degrees) - taking them into account will distort any policy meant to improve female literacy. So one has to come up with community targetted numbers and use that as a comparison to fine tune policy and then compare them across different states to overcome any local bias (socio-cultural-economic)

For example, it turns out that female literacy in Gujarat could not get a leg up because of lack of sanitation in schools. It is important that information percolates up and is agreed by all., the solution is simple - provide better sanitation in elementary schools! It might be mid-day meal in TN, but better sanitation in Guj!! Same target, different solution.

Similarly when Guj CM comes up to your door and takes the girl child to a primary school, the impact is enormous. Best is to do it in a cluster where the literacy is lowest. However if the cluster belongs to a muslim community, the approach has to be modified - that is respect their local culture for example (women may not step out seeing so many government male employees., better to send in women at that stage).

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 Jun 2013 01:48

^^ That Sadk Chap is Shivam Vija (kafila.org). He is one of those lefty garbage who has been burning on Mahdu Kishwar for writing modinana.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Jun 2013 01:53

Today's programme by Rahul Kanwal with audio tape

Modi, Advani were in Ishrat Jahan's hitlist

http://headlinestoday.intoday.in/progra ... 80007.html

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Jun 2013 01:58

vivek.rao wrote:^^ That Sadk Chap is Shivam Vija (kafila.org). He is one of those lefty garbage who has been burning on Mahdu Kishwar for writing modinana.

Here is an article of his.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/562801/why- ... -minister/

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Jun 2013 02:05

Atri:
If you do not mind, can you send me an email.... I want to carry on some of the exchanges w.r.t the different systems and pramanas. I am not convinced, and my gut feeling is that you are stretching things a little bit

More in email, if you wish

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 14 Jun 2013 02:18

you may visit the deracination dhaga.. I have pasted the post there..

it is apt thread precisely for such discussions. others would participate too.. of course, if you insist again, I will mail you.. But you are right.. Any logic which has to apply anupalabdhi and arthapatti stretches things too far and borders on being a CT. This is principle criticism against Advaita Vedanta and its concept of Maaya by non-theist aastikas like samkhya-yoga-vaisheshika et al..

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... =24&t=5586

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Jun 2013 02:38

VikasRaina wrote:^ Why these people are bent upon imposing western ideology on Bharat. How many English speaking, Sekooler people even understand what Fascist means ? What is next..NaMo is Racist ?

It is just not 'those' people, we all are party to such mistakes. Including people on BRF

. If one scans Tiruvalluvar or Kautilaya's messages in their books, or Ramayana & Mahabharata it is evident they give due importance to the welfare of State's subjects. In 21st century these stalwarts would have been called Socialists and thrown out of discussions. Balance is key.

Atri: Email pleaze onlee.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Jun 2013 03:36

The road to Delhi will pass through Lucknow: Amit Shah

Well, well - story title seems innocuous enough, eh? But hang on, some spicy details emerge... And yup, I'd take sri Amitbhai Shah's words seriously... the man speaks in NM's voice.

Despite the fact that there are 10 sitting BJP MPs from UP including party president Rajnath Singh from Ghaziabad, Murli Manohar Joshi from Varanasi and Lalji Tandon from Lucknow, party general secretary Amit Shah on Wednesday created commotion by declaring that they have not yet decided any candidate so far for the Lok Sabha elections.

"There is not a single candidate whose name is finalised. But one thing is clear that the road to Delhi will pass through Lucknow", he said. [...]

While explaining Shah's motive behind his statement, a senior BJP leader said, "The fact is that all the sitting MPs expect that they will get ticket again.

But if he says that not a single candidate has been decided, it means that many sitting MPs wouldn't be repeated.

According to our information, Modi is not interested in repeating those who are above 70 years of age.

Joshi is 79 and Tandon is 78. It is also true that they belong to LK Advani camp, which opposes Modi's elevation from state to national politics. It appears that Modi has a plan for Varanasi and Lucknow seats."

Aha. At least 2 seats saved from certain defeat, seems like. Hopefully, sri Anant Kr in namma bengaluru can also be granted honorary membership to the 70+ club and the Blr (south) LS seat be saved as well... too much to ask for, not if NM's decisiveness is anything to go by...

He was replying to a question in regard with the possible candidature of Gujarat Chief Minister and BJP Election Campaign Committee Chairman Narendra Modi's from Lucknow Lok Sabha seat.

"UP will be our focus areas because there is possibility of lots of improvement here", he said, making it more than clear that Modi would focus more on UP than any other state. {Highest ROI chances are here only. NM's effective , sure, but efficient too.}

When asked to Shah how would Modi be able to concentrate in election campaign when there are a large number of Advani supporters in the Country and even Nitish Kumar, Bihar CM and JD(U), an ally of the BJP-led NDA, is opposing Modi's elevation, he said, "Advani issue is a closed chapter. We are moving ahead very fast and going to form the government in the Centre in 2014. We don't think that we need to care about the views of the leaders of other political parties." {Bravo. I like this Amitbhai shah more and more already. And yes, I'm convinced he is NM's voice.}

"The people are fed up with the UPA government of Sonia Gandhi and Manmhohan Singh in the Centre. They have lost moral and constitutional right to continue in power. But the problem is that the UP based Samajwadi Party (SP) and the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) are happily committing the crime of supporting the UPA", he said.

Direct attack on the SP-BSP duo's UPA support. No mincing words, beating around the bushfire, media dance-drama. Straight shooting, dead serious. I like the purposeful, rational, calculating new look BJP only...

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 14 Jun 2013 05:14

some battle going on in leftists bastion in Delhi- JNU

abvp planning to rope in NaMo for a speech and leftists outfits opposing it.

may have to wait for more confirmation.

FWIW.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 14 Jun 2013 06:55

Gus wrote:^ to be fair, the stats are bad for all communities in WB, UP and Bihar, no?

communal or not argument is an argument best avoided or only used when necessary, imo.

just the facts that those states have poor development due to poor governance - should be a winning argument???

The graphic proves beyond doubt that concentrating on development (& growth) pays more dividend for minority communities than sacrificing development for social equity as Congress suggests.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Jun 2013 07:00

^Bingo.

More generally, think of what message the netas and parties take home based on the color of the result in LS 2014.

If NM loses, the message unambiguously is that "development/ governence/ reform etc. don't pay. That Guj is a special case, not generalizable. That lip service to secularism and socialism and identity politics (IOW, status quo) is necessary and sufficient to hang onto power. Kinda how the common-sensical management style of CBN go trashed in Ap after 2004 and what we saw was loot on an unprecedented scale.

If NM wins, then the argument is reversed. Even stubborns like Mamta di will get it into their heads that developement + growth wala vote bank is real and growing and cannot be ignored. States will vie to copy the Guj model to the extent feasible. Peace, growth, prosperity all around.

Kinda also parallels the message UPA took home after NDA lost 2004. That 'India shining' kinda vision and reformist outlok doesn't sell. And look where that brought us a lost decade later...

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Jun 2013 07:30

CBI removes IPS officer from Ishrat Jahan probe

NEW DELHI: Amid growing concern in the Intelligence Bureau and home ministry over the direction of CBI investigation in the Ishrat Jahan encounter case involving IB special director Rajinder Kumar, the CBI on Thursday removed IPS Satish Verma from its probe team. Verma was a nominee of Ishrat Jahan's mother in the SIT, formed by Gujarat high court to probe the alleged fake encounter. Verma was later made part of the CBI team which was entrusted with the case by HC after SIT submitted its report.

The development comes amid indications from IB that Satish Verma had been overzealous in the investigation of the case and overtly focused on the role of IB special director in the staged encounter. CBI's removal of Verma from the probe team comes as a surprise since Verma had been given two extensions to his tenure, his last ending on Friday, on CBI's demand.

Significantly, after a high level meeting in the home ministry on Thursday, the CBI has also decided to "re-evaluate its evidence in the Ishrat Jahan encounter case". The meeting was reportedly attended by CBI Director Ranjit Sinha, IB chief Asif Ibrahim, former CBI Director A P Singh, union home secretary RK Singh.

The SIT to probe Ishrat Jahan's encounter was setup by Gujarat HC after it heard two PILs, one by father of alleged LeT militant Javed Sheikh alias Pranesh Pillay and another by Jahan's mother Shamima Kauser, questioning the veracity of the encounter. The court allowed three appointments in the SIT — one by the centre (Karnail Singh), one by state government (Mohan Jha) and one by Jahan's mother (Satish Verma). After Karnail Singh's scheduled transfer to Mizoram, the SIT was headed by R R Verma. It was R R Verma who submitted a report in the high court saying that "the encounter was fake".

Based on SIT's report, HC ordered registration of an FIR against officers involved and transferred the case to CBI. In an interesting development, the court told the CBI that it could engage the services of Satish Verma if it so wanted. Since then, Satish Verma has been assisting CBI in its probe in the alleged fake encounter. Agency officials have claimed earlier that they have enough evidence against Rajinder Singh, summoned as accused in the case.

AP Singh, sources say, was called for the meeting on Thursday to review the evidence collected by agency during his tenure in the case. Rajinder Kumar was called for formal questioning by CBI on Friday but now he will come on Tuesday, said officials. IB has been expressing its concern for past few days for making Kumar accused in the case.

The sources said while the IB Director Asif Ibrahim pressed for the need to maintain confidentiality in the ongoing probe, CBI Director Ranjit Sinha assured that the same would be done.

Kumar was posted in State Intelligence Bureau in 2004 and his role had come under the scanner of the agency for the alleged fake input. They said his statement would be crucial in finalising the charge sheet in the Ishrat Jahan case as he was alleged to have played a crucial role in generating an intelligence input about purported LeT plan of LeT to eliminate Modi.

http://t.co/Yj2gdkxjDK

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Jun 2013 07:34

abhishek_sharma wrote:

Here is a snap shot of the Sachar Committee report on the state of education among Muslims in India and a few States. It is evident that the condition of Muslims in Gujarat under Mr Modi's rule is the best ! Better than those governed by the so called 'secular' Congress or Left parties. So who is communal ?

Modi Lao Desh Bachao- Narendra Modi For PM

Plan to create a mini Kashmir in every district of UP.

Congress woos UP Muslims ahead of Lok Sabha polls

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/ ... 582022.cms

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Jun 2013 09:07

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 14 Jun 2013 09:22

Sushupti wrote:Check latest expose of CBI &NIA by Headlinestoday. They ran the audio tape, evidence based on which IB alerted GJ police. Audio tape contains conversation between Abdul gani and LET top notch in pakistan.

I hope some one have made a copy of this in their local PCs. This may be removed quickly. Looks like the IB Chief meeting the head-honchos of GoI requesting them to stop the witch hunt of CBI did not yeild results. So they leaked the "evidence" to the media.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 14 Jun 2013 09:23

Arjun wrote:The graphic proves beyond doubt that concentrating on development (& growth) pays more dividend for minority communities than sacrificing development for social equity as Congress suggests.

that is a better way of putting it.

nm should not get into this losing debate of who's communal or not, because the con party can dictate the narrative there, given their exp using that and chamchas willing to carry on that debate for them.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Jun 2013 09:24

It serves IB right to be screwed by INC. The IB is the sword arm of INC even when other parties are in power.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 14 Jun 2013 09:53

A near reasonable piece by Rajdeep Sardasi. But he has to show his INC colours in this piece as well.

Why Modi is a test case for the Indian media’s objectivity

2002 changed Modi’s equations with journalists and, in particular, the Delhi-based ‘national’ media. The Gujarat riots were the country’s first encounter with communal violence in the age of 24 x 7 television. The graphic images of the violence stayed in the mind long after the embers had been doused. Modi as the man in charge during the riots became the natural target of the media frenzy at the time. As someone who covered both the 1992-93 riots in Mumbai and then the Gujarat riots, my experience has left me convinced that no riot can take place without a mix of state incompetence and complicity. Mumbai under Congress rule was just as terrible as Gujarat: the difference was we didn’t have the camera lens in 1992 to bring the horrors into every drawing room. The image of Modi as Nero while his state burnt stuck: it would have been no different had anyone else been chief minister. This has nothing to do with the constant targeting of Modi till date.

Modi, though, took the criticism personally, believing it was part of an orchestrated campaign by an English-speaking, pseudo-secular media. By raising the war cry of Gujarati asmita (self-respect), he transformed the riot reporting into a virtual confrontation between him as ‘protector’ of Gujarati ‘pride’ on one side and the ‘villainous’ anglicized media on the other. The result was a long period of combative behaviour, marked by walk outs from interviews, scorn and ridicule of journalists, and, in some instances, even the threat of intimidation by his groupies. Gone it seemed was the Mr Nice Guy of the 1990s to be replaced by a leader intolerant of any form of hard questioning.

That adversarial period lasted primarily between 2002 and 2007 as the quest for justice for the riot victims kept the Gujarat story on the front pages. In the last five years though, there has been another twist in the tale. The tears of the riot-scarred are now, at best, an annual ritual, replaced by the shining lights of Vibrant Gujarat. Modi still makes the headlines, but more often than not for his development agenda. If the Gujarat growth story was shadowed by riots at one time, today the media has done an almost 360 degree turn. Now, it’s the Modi mantra of good governance that blurs all else. CAG reports questioning the government’s claims and raising valid concerns over cronyism in resource allocation barely get a mention. If the Gujarat story was once told through the prism of riots, it is now told through the eyes of corporate India. A section of the media has got so carried away that they appear almost as propagandists for a chief minister who is seen to do no wrong.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Jun 2013 10:13

most of that article is unadulterated bilge. he is castigating Modi for "self-respect" speeches during the height of the INC campaigns against him.

a whole host of political leaders have taken that route of regional "self-respect" long before Modi, and for far lesser reasons.

does he really think the readers are a bunch of ignorant idiots who were born yesterday?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 14 Jun 2013 10:18

^^^

Most of the readers are a bunch of ignorant idiots. I see it every day, wherever I go.

INC has succeeded by confusing most of the urban India through the use of sold out media. The task of Modi is cut out for him. I fear that all our wishes and prayers may not bee enough for him to overcome the odd that have been stacked against him.

NaMo will loose onlee

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 14 Jun 2013 10:20

^^^ He is downhill skii, very slowly, he is now claiming that "we werent against you, we arent against you, it was all a misunderstanding" -- first step back from "major blow to Modi, Modi is fascists, what happened to 1000000000000000 fotesus which were ripped out of 100000000000000 unwed mothers after raping them"... and so on and so forth.

So calibrated downhill skiing

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Jun 2013 10:25

Sanku wrote:^^^ He is downhill skii, very slowly, he is now claiming that "we werent against you, we arent against you, it was all a misunderstanding" -- first step back from "major blow to Modi, Modi is fascists, what happened to 1000000000000000 fotesus which were ripped out of 100000000000000 unwed mothers after raping them"... and so on and so forth.

So calibrated downhill skiing

That was my understanding too. But i wasn't able to find apt term until Sanku ji used downhill skiing.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 14 Jun 2013 10:33

Pratyush wrote:A near reasonable piece by Rajdeep Sardasi. But he has to show his INC colours in this piece as well.

Why Modi is a test case for the Indian media’s objectivity

2002 changed Modi’s equations with journalists and, in particular, the Delhi-based ‘national’ media. The Gujarat riots were the country’s first encounter with communal violence in the age of 24 x 7 television. The graphic images of the violence stayed in the mind long after the embers had been doused. Modi as the man in charge during the riots became the natural target of the media frenzy at the time. As someone who covered both the 1992-93 riots in Mumbai and then the Gujarat riots, my experience has left me convinced that no riot can take place without a mix of state incompetence and complicity. Mumbai under Congress rule was just as terrible as Gujarat: the difference was we didn’t have the camera lens in 1992 to bring the horrors into every drawing room. The image of Modi as Nero while his state burnt stuck: it would have been no different had anyone else been chief minister. This has nothing to do with the constant targeting of Modi till date.

Modi, though, took the criticism personally, believing it was part of an orchestrated campaign by an English-speaking, pseudo-secular media. By raising the war cry of Gujarati asmita (self-respect), he transformed the riot reporting into a virtual confrontation between him as ‘protector’ of Gujarati ‘pride’ on one side and the ‘villainous’ anglicized media on the other. The result was a long period of combative behaviour, marked by walk outs from interviews, scorn and ridicule of journalists, and, in some instances, even the threat of intimidation by his groupies. Gone it seemed was the Mr Nice Guy of the 1990s to be replaced by a leader intolerant of any form of hard questioning.

That adversarial period lasted primarily between 2002 and 2007 as the quest for justice for the riot victims kept the Gujarat story on the front pages. In the last five years though, there has been another twist in the tale. The tears of the riot-scarred are now, at best, an annual ritual, replaced by the shining lights of Vibrant Gujarat. Modi still makes the headlines, but more often than not for his development agenda. If the Gujarat growth story was shadowed by riots at one time, today the media has done an almost 360 degree turn. Now, it’s the Modi mantra of good governance that blurs all else. CAG reports questioning the government’s claims and raising valid concerns over cronyism in resource allocation barely get a mention. If the Gujarat story was once told through the prism of riots, it is now told through the eyes of corporate India. A section of the media has got so carried away that they appear almost as propagandists for a chief minister who is seen to do no wrong.

Read the changing wind directions my friends. This is Turdesai hedging his bets in case Namo comes to power and he has to grovel in front of him. If Modi becomes PM or even HM, he will crush the pseudo-secular anti national elements in the media - Turdesai will be first to go, UndieTV second.

See how subtly he shifts the blame for the Modi-media conflict on to Modi 'taking it personally'. He is indicating to the readers that the 'pseudo-secular anglicised media' (namely himself) was never against Modi.

Read this statement 'The image of Modi as Nero while his state burnt stuck: it would have been no different had anyone else been chief minister' - the interpretation is 'we (media) were not vindictive in attacking Modi after the riots, we would have attacked any other CM. This is all lies of course, did Digvijay have to face the same thing when he used similar riots to wipe out criminal elements.

Another reason for the attack on Modi is that during riots, tribals were mobilized and attacked xtian missions - this is the main reaosn for the attack on Modi - that he challenged xtian interests.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 14 Jun 2013 10:35

Ah, I see Sanku has already written about it.

After all AWMTA (copyright Rahul the Mehta)

And if I may add, Turdesai is showing his 'cheeks of Musharraf' (copyright Sanku)

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 14 Jun 2013 10:38

I think Rajdeep's article is plain and simple alibi. In 1992 there was no 24x7 News in 2002 there was. But what about 2012 Assam? In 2012, a time when many mobile devices can have 1080p resolution video, a simple tripod + mobile device setup with a delayed upload can provide many of the footage that can then be analyzed and produced in studios. Lack of OB vans cannot become an excuse for no coverage. Rajdeep knows that he has lost credibility among a large portion of the English news consuming population. He does not shy away from project ALL NM supporters as Internet Hindus, he should take some time to understand (if he still does not know) what is driving ordinary citizens to present the views they do.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 14 Jun 2013 10:41

Sushupti wrote:CBI removes IPS officer from Ishrat Jahan probe

NEW DELHI: Amid growing concern in the Intelligence Bureau and home ministry over the direction of CBI investigation in the Ishrat Jahan encounter case involving IB special director Rajinder Kumar,

http://t.co/Yj2gdkxjDK

Headlines today had an expose on how IB had the intel on Ishratjahan being a fidayeen. Seems like Kongis want to pull up the IB guys for past 'incompetence' and to shake a few positions for the next one year left.

Unfortunately for them the blackmail value of intel esp. hex & corruption is reducing day by day simply because people are becoming more and more indiscriminate. This being the frustration phase marginal utility of the chicken is reducing even though the kongi reliance on the chicken is increasing.

From the frustration phase only a proven leader can kickstart a visionary phase.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 14 Jun 2013 10:42

abhischekcc wrote:Ah, I see Sanku has already written about it.

After all AWMTA (copyright Rahul the Mehta)

And if I may add, Turdesai is showing his 'cheeks of Musharraf' (copyright Sanku)

Good to see you back and posting more often abcc

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 14 Jun 2013 10:55

Bundie tv has new epithet... NehruDynasty tv

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Jun 2013 11:02

Murugan wrote:Bundie tv has new epithet... NehruDynasty tv

and

IBN=Italian Bahu Network

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 14 Jun 2013 11:07

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 14 Jun 2013 11:15

devesh wrote:a whole host of political leaders have taken that route of regional "self-respect" long before Modi, and for far lesser reasons.

does he really think the readers are a bunch of ignorant idiots who were born yesterday?

EVR Periyar started self-respect movement in 1920s

he is putting the cart before the horse. constant denigration and hostility from media was the cause..not the effect.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 14 Jun 2013 11:42

Art is really a talent. This guy, Kureel excels in it, both with ideas and presentation.

sum · Post by **sum** » 14 Jun 2013 11:44

Headlines today had an expose on how IB had the intel on Ishratjahan being a fidayeen. Seems like Kongis want to pull up the IB guys for past 'incompetence' and to shake a few positions for the next one year left.

One of the problems of blackmailing a Intel agency is the amount of dirt they have against the blackmailer and one never knows whose b@lls who is squeezing

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Jun 2013 11:49

From twitter:

>>Jiggs ‏@Sootradhar 4m
Bihar Dy CM Sushil Modi has called for meeting meeting of all BJP cabinet ministers.