Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

The Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum is a venue to discuss issues pertaining to India's security environment, her strategic outlook on global affairs and as well as the effect of international relations in the Indian Subcontinent. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
KJo
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9926
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 02:54

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by KJo »

I don't understand why the Cheenis just don't go in and demolish the Uighur Masjids, and ban religion. They are capable of much worse, this seems like a small thing to do to deal with their Uighur problem.
Are they so afraid of the Ummafia?
Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Peregrine »

KJoishy wrote:I don't understand why the Cheenis just don't go in and demolish the Uighur Masjids, and ban religion. They are capable of much worse, this seems like a small thing to do to deal with their Uighur problem.
Are they so afraid of the Ummafia?
KJoishy :

Oil from Iran and Saudis.

Cheers Image
KJo
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9926
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 02:54

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by KJo »

Pere, they don't need to do it openly, cheenis are very good with this underhanded stuff. Even at work, they are maha chaaloo, but when you call them out, they feign ignorance, blink at you with a blank expression and pretend not to understand English.
Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21233
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Prem »

http://www.dawn.com/news/1048525/mushar ... urder-case
Musharraf granted bail in Bugti murder case
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s Supreme Court on Wednesday granted bail to former president Pervez Musharraf over the death of Baloch rebel leader Akbar Bugti, bringing closer the former dictator’s possible release after nearly six months of house arrest.Musharraf has now been granted bail in three major cases against him, including one relating to the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto.His lawyer said the ruling meant he was a “free man”. But he is likely to remain under heavy guard at his villa on the edge of Islamabad, where he has been under house arrest since April, because of serious threats to his life.s lawyer Ibrahim Satti said the [googlevideo]three-member bench had granted bail in the Bugti case in return for surety bonds worth two million rupees.Though the court had summoned Jamil Bugti, a son of Nawab Akbar Bugti, who is a complainant in the case, he remained absent from today’s hearing.
“Pervez Musharraf is a free man now after getting bail in the Bugti case,” said Qamar Afzal, another counsel for the former president.Musharraf's spokesman Raza Bokhari said the general was “gratified” by the bail ruling but determined to clear his name of charges which he has always maintained were politically motivated.“He will continue to fight these cases until his name is clear of these tight,fair,tall but fictitious charges.”
‘No decision to leave Pakistan’
“There has been no deal with the government, nor has Musharraf taken any decision to immediately leave the country,” Muhammad Amjad told reporters.He has been living in part of his 1,100 square metre house, declared a “sub-jail” under the auspices of the Adiala prison in Rawalpindi, where he is guarded by some 300 police, paramilitaries and marksmen.Reports have claimed he is enjoying a comfortable life in detention. He has even had the services of his personal cook because of his fears of being poisoned.Since Sharif won the election there have been repeated rumours that a deal would be reached to allow Musharraf to leave Pakistan before his trials were completed.Musharraf spokesman Bokhari insisted no such arrangement had been cooked up.One theory was that Musharraf might be allowed to visit his sick elderly Father in Dubai on compassionate grounds, but APML spokesman Amjad rejected the idea.“Musharraf's mother has been quite unwell for quite some time but he has not reached any deal nor has he made any request to leave the country to see his mother,” Amjad said.
Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21233
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Prem »

Stop drone strikes and we will call a truce: Taliban

http://tribune.com.pk/story/616054/stop ... e-taliban/
Amidst all the hullabaloo about a peaceful end to an increasingly violent insurgency in Pakistan, the top Taliban commander said on Wednesday that he is ‘open to serious talks’ and asked the government to send a ‘jirga’ to initiate the process.“We believe in serious talks but the government has taken no steps to approach us. The government needs to sit with us, then we will present our conditions,” Hakimullah Mehsud told the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) in a rare video interview on Wednesday.Hakimullah said he wouldn’t discuss preconditions for talks through the media. “The proper way to do it is that if the government appoints a formal team [of negotiators], and they sit with us, and we discuss our respective positions,” he said, adding that he would guarantee the security of negotiators.
Asked why previous peace initiatives had failed, Hakimullah blamed the government. “The government bombs innocent tribal people under US pressure … Drone strikes conducted by Americans were [backed] by Pakistan. Then the Americans pressed Pakistan to start ground operations in these areas, and Pakistan complied,” he said. “So the government is responsible for past failures.”
Mehsud has a $5 million FBI bounty on his head and is thought to be responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. But in the interview he denied carrying out the recent deadly attacks in public places.“We consider the safety of Muslims, of scholars, of mosques and madrassas as our sacred duty,” he said. “As for explosions which cause damage to the life and property of Muslims, we have denied any link the past, we deny any link today.”Asked about the 2014 drawdown of US-led troops from Afghanistan, he said: “America is one of the two reasons we have to conduct a jihad against Pakistan. The other reason is that Pakistan’s system is un-Islamic, and we want it replaced with an Islamic system. “This demand and this desire will continue even after the American withdrawal.”
ManuT
BRFite
Posts: 595
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 23:50

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by ManuT »

KJoishy wrote: Think of the number of ghazis this man will spawn, all thirsting to spread the light of Peace in India. Another Hindu self goal.
We seek validation even from Pakistanis!
IMO, TSP needs both: Salala and Malala.
ManuT
BRFite
Posts: 595
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 23:50

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by ManuT »

Jhujar wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1048525/mushar ... urder-case
Musharraf granted bail in Bugti murder case
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s Supreme Court on Wednesday granted bail to former president Pervez Musharraf over the death of Baloch rebel leader Akbar Bugti, bringing closer the former dictator’s possible release after nearly six months of house arrest. Musharraf has now been granted bail in three major cases against him, including one relating to the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto. His lawyer said the ruling meant he was a “free man”.
....
Since Sharif won the election there have been repeated rumours that a deal would be reached to allow Musharraf to leave Pakistan before his trials were completed.Musharraf spokesman Bokhari insisted no such arrangement had been cooked up.One theory was that Musharraf might be allowed to visit his sick elderly Father in Dubai on compassionate grounds, but APML spokesman Amjad rejected the idea.“Musharraf's mother has been quite unwell for quite some time but he has not reached any deal nor has he made any request to leave the country to see his mother,” Amjad said.
Breaking News: Musharaf's donkey runs free and wild.
member_20385
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 29
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by member_20385 »

From DAWN: "India’s self-seeking missiles"
Javed Naqvi, Dawn's correspondent in Delhi
http://dawn.com/news/1048729/indias-sel ... g-missiles

The ultimate logic to link Indian missile test and car factories with UN security council election.
I have checked wiki and it says that in 2013 Asia Pacific seat is reserved for an Arab State. Am I missing something and India is in fray for non permanent seat?
kancha
BRFite
Posts: 1032
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 19:13

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by kancha »

Looks like Mullah Fazallulah has been injured / killed in an attack
Lilo
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4080
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 09:08

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Lilo »

neerajmaurya wrote:From DAWN: "India’s self-seeking missiles"
Javed Naqvi, Dawn's correspondent in Delhi
http://dawn.com/news/1048729/indias-sel ... g-missiles

The ultimate logic to link Indian missile test and car factories with UN security council election.
I have checked wiki and it says that in 2013 Asia Pacific seat is reserved for an Arab State. Am I missing something and India is in fray for non permanent seat?
Neeraj ji,

Th bile and angst of an ex commie who is currently for all purposes a crypto Islamist is not surprising.
Anyway Baawed Baqwi is an Indian, paid to diss India in Paki rags. Its his job - and reason or logic wont matter if the farticle manages to rhyme to the goat bleats metre one also sees in wsws.org (world socialist website) India news section.
Aditya_V
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14399
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 16:25

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Aditya_V »

What worries me that his daughter, who in all probability due to his influence is a member of this countries all powerful NAC. which means his thinking is very much part of the countries establishment.
Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Peregrine »

5pc people hold 64pc of Pakistan’s farmland, moot told
KARACHI : Five per cent bigwigs possess 64pc of Pakistan’s farmland while 50.8pc rural households are landless.
Land distribution in Pakistan was highly unequal as 5pc of large landholders possess 64pc of the total farmland and 65pc small farmers held 15pc of land.
Mr Arif said 50.8pc of rural households were landless while the poverty among rural landless people was high
Request to "Gurus" : Is there any Islamic Country which has permitted Land Reforms?

Cheers Image
kmkraoind
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3908
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 00:24

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by kmkraoind »

Image
Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Peregrine »

Last edited by Peregrine on 10 Oct 2013 18:26, edited 1 time in total.
vishvak
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 5836
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 21:19

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by vishvak »

5pc people hold 64pc of Pakistan’s farmland, moot told
No one talks how much TSPArmy owns and spends for jihardis and assorted mis-state and unstated state rabid digs.
kmkraoind
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3908
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 00:24

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by kmkraoind »

Image
Here is my conspiracy theory:

Since Baloch earthquake I am seeing many compatriot Balochis on twitter cribbing Pak establishment not letting foreign aid workers, including that of doctors without borders (global NGO), then question is why. Here goes my theory.
- May be some of the crown jewels or crown jewel infra of Pakis has been severely damaged and may be some slight radiation or chemical hazard had happened during Baloch earthquake, and Pakis do not want outside world knowing it, that is why they are not letting any non-Paki NGOs or regular Pak NGOs to help quake victims.
- To divert all our Indian intel in Pak to POK, they started border skirmishes, so that it will become focal point rather than Baloch.
- Only big border skirmishes or terror attack happens in India when there is a new military head (to prove he is a true Ghazi), but no such thing happened, yet there is a major border fight.
- The Indian Army which issues regular bulletins on border, did not issue any such and even did not let media to hover around POK skirmishes site, it means it is much bigger than regular infiltration attempt or small border fight.
- Usually COAS of Pak wants their extension in years, not in months. Why Kiyani wanted till November to retire? not a year or two?
- Anyhow our intel got a sniff on Baloch and those incidents worried MMS, that why he went on to meet NS at UN summit to keep a faction of Pak in good humor.
- US knew this and they thought Pak will be a bigger threat than Iran in very near future and are ready to accept Iran's new president friendship, so that Iran's cooperation in future will come handy if they want to intervene in Baloch.
- To assuage Iran, west (US) has toned down its rhetoric over Syria, now Syrian Army is getting back its land back inch-by-inch, yet no big cribbing by west.

One of my biggest short comings is, my writing style is tuned to "telegram" style rather than big elucidative letter style, so pardon me of my Inglish.
harbans
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4883
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 05:01
Location: Dehradun

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by harbans »

Will the radiation leakages not be detected if not by India but by other powers.
Garooda
BRFite
Posts: 569
Joined: 13 Jul 2011 00:00

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Garooda »

Food as weapon? :lol:
MIAMI — Tarek El-Sawah is in terrible shape after 11 years as a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay, a fact even the U.S. military does not dispute.

During his time in captivity, the weight of the 55-year-old Egyptian has nearly doubled, reaching more than 420 pounds at one point, :rotfl: and his health has deteriorated as a result, both his lawyers and government officials concede. No human rights violations...just overfeed him to death or ailment with fat, cholesterol laden GMO food. Its unkil's way if all else fails. :lol:

Lawyers for El-Sawah, and the doctors they have brought down to the U.S. base in Cuba to examine him, paint a dire picture — a morbidly obese man with diabetes and a range of other serious ailments. He is short of breath, barely able to walk 10 feet, unable to stay awake in meetings and faces the possibility of not making it out of prison alive.

"We are very afraid that he is at a high risk of death, that he could die at any moment," said Marine Lt. Col. Sean Gleason, a military lawyer appointed to represent him.

Details about the condition of El-Sawah, who has admitted being an al-Qaida explosives trainer but is no longer facing charges, are emerging in a series of recently filed court motions that provide a rare glimpse into the health of an unusual prisoner, and a preview of arguments that may become more common as the Guantanamo Bay prison ages into a second decade with no prospects for closure in sight.

He's not the only one of the 164 prisoners at Guantanamo who is seriously ill. :wink: Last week, a judge ordered the release of a schizophrenic Sudanese man who spent much of the past decade medicated in the prison psych ward. His lawyers argued he was so sick, with ailments that also included diabetes, that he couldn't possibly pose a threat and therefore the U.S. no longer had the authority to hold him. The judge's ruling came after the government withdrew its opposition to his release.

There's also a Pakistani prisoner, Saifullah Paracha, with a heart condition serious enough that the government brought a surgical team and a mobile cardiac lab to the U.S. base in Cuba to treat him, at a cost of $400,000. Waste of money IMO :x He ultimately refused the treatment because he didn't trust military medical personnel.

In addition, two prisoners have died from natural causes — one from a heart attack, the other from cancer. And several detainees have raised medical complaints related to their participation in a long-running hunger strike, which had dropped to 17 prisoners as of Monday from a peak of 106 in July.

"There are a whole slew of people with a whole slew of serious health problems," said Cori Crider, a lawyer for the British human rights group Reprieve who has been meeting with Guantanamo prisoners for years.

U.S. officials say Guantanamo prisoners get excellent medical care, saying proudly that it's equivalent to what troops receive. There are more than 100 doctors, nurses and other professionals treating "a constellation" of illnesses, said Navy Capt. Daryl Daniels, a physician and the chief medical officer for the detention center. He says none is in critical condition at the moment.

"They are an aging population and they are starting to show some signs of being an older group of people," Daniels said.

In August, lawyers for El-Sawah filed an emergency motion with a federal court in Washington asking a judge to order the military to provide what it calls "adequate" medical care, including additional tests for possible heart disease and a device to help him breathe because of a condition they say is preventing his brain from receiving enough oxygen.

The government insists he is getting good care at Guantanamo and just needs to exercise more and eat less :wink: "While (El-Sawah) is currently in poor health, his life is not in imminent danger," lawyers for the Justice Department wrote in response.

The judge hasn't ruled, but the request is secondary anyway. What El-Sawah and his lawyers want is for the U.S. to release him, preferably back home to Egypt. They argue in part that his health is too poor for him to pose any kind of threat. "It boggles the mind that they are putting up a fight on releasing him," Gleason said.
pankajs
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14746
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 20:56

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by pankajs »

Musharraf held on Red Mosque case
Pakistan arrests ex-President Musharraf over 2007 Red Mosque killings a day after granting him bail in another case
Well .. I thought mush-a-rat has managed to buy his ticket to doo-bye but now it seems he will have to spend some more time in shitstan!
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 59882
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by ramana »


So from Indian interests point of view Bad Taliban (Afghan wing) attack the good Taliban (TTP) and kill one of the main charcters. This is an ISI pasand operation.


* From Indian interests POV igood and bad Taliban is inverse of rhe Wastern definition.
Mahesh_R
BRFite
Posts: 185
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 00:46

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Mahesh_R »

Pakistan rules out 'most favoured nation' status to India before next elections
India is unlikely to be granted the 'most favoured nation' (MFN) status before 2014 Lok Sabha elections and resumption of composite dialogue between the two nations, Pakistan finance minister has said.
Islamabad had to "put on hold" granting MFN status to India in view of the public pressure in the aftermath of the unfortunate incident on the line of control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir.
"There are public sentiments. So we had to put it (MFN status) on hold,"
:(( :(( :((
ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 59882
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by ramana »

kmkraoind, The style is not that important. Its the message. True Baloch is where they keep the clown jewels as its farthest from IAF reach. So plausible. Why not tweet and see if it creates a buzz.

just say clown jewels most likely damaged. NGOs being kept out for safety.
Lalmohan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 13262
Joined: 30 Dec 2005 18:28

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Lalmohan »

pankajs wrote:Well .. I thought mush-a-rat has managed to buy his ticket to doo-bye but now it seems he will have to spend some more time in shitstan!
ganja loin likes his revenge serve cold
Rajdeep
BRFite
Posts: 491
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 20:48

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Rajdeep »

mush the tush arrested again for lal masjid operation.

Who would put enough pressure on the courts to do that ? My guess is greener jihadis in the TSPA.

And now that kiya - nahi is retiring , what becomes of mush ?
Last edited by Rajdeep on 10 Oct 2013 21:12, edited 1 time in total.
arun
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10248
Joined: 28 Nov 2002 12:31

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by arun »

Rajdeep wrote:mush the tush arrested again for lal masjid operation
Web link for that piece of news:

Pakistan rearrests former president Musharraf over Red Mosque deaths
member_22872
BRFite
Posts: 1873
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by member_22872 »

May be it is their way of water boarding him...release the fish, create euphoria that he finally can go back to hafta collections through his world wide discourse series, then suddenly rob his happiness by re-arresting him...clever pakis.
KJo
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9926
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 02:54

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by KJo »

Can anyone here explain what this MFN status entails, and why the F are we hankering so much for it?
Or are the Pakis unilaterally hanging this carrot and saying "wont give!"?
Like an ugly fat girl who smugly tells passerbys that she won't lift her skirt up.
kenop
BRFite
Posts: 1335
Joined: 01 Jun 2009 07:28

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by kenop »

Paki spreading, what else, Pakistaniat
Najam Azmat snaked a catheter on a guide wire into Judi Gary’s groin as he tried to insert a stent in an artery supplying blood to her pelvis and right leg.

On an X-ray monitor near where Gary lay, nurses saw blood leakages. The wire seemed to be in the wrong place, nurse Evan Gourley told Azmat. Everything was fine, the vascular surgeon replied. It wasn’t.
Azmat tore Gary’s aorta during the December 2005 procedure, according to documents filed with a U.S. Justice Department civil complaint. Nurses asked another surgeon to step in. Gourley left in disgust. Later, he went to administrators at Satilla Regional Medical Center in Waycross, Georgia, with a warning about Azmat.

“I told them that he will kill a patient if they let him continue to work,” Gourley said. Officials at the Satilla hospital got at least seven similar warnings about Azmat, according to another nurse’s notes.

They let him continue. One of his next patients died.

Azmat’s tenure at the 231-bed hospital, as described in interviews and more than 1,000 pages of medical records, internal documents and witness statements that were made public last year, shows the extremes one hospital went to in order to keep its catheterization clinic -- or “cath lab” -- operating and producing revenue.
A father of four married three times, Azmat arrived in the U.S. in 1983 after graduating from Khyber Medical College in Peshawar, Pakistan. He completed a surgical residency in New York and then joined the staff of Hardin Memorial Hospital in Elizabethtown, Kentucky, in 1996. By 2004, he’d left that post and was seeking a new one.
When he expressed interest in setting up his practice in Waycross, Azmat e-mailed that his goal was to build a “full spectrum” of vascular services -- including those involving work inside blood vessels, such as inserting peripheral stents, he said in a deposition filed last year in federal court.

When he applied, his only hands-on training in stents consisted of two weekend courses practicing on cadavers and pigs, Azmat said later. In June 2005, just before he joined Satilla’s staff, Azmat said he attended a two-day class in Louisiana where he implanted at least two stents in the renal arteries of live humans.
Azmat was soon working steadily in the lab -- and almost from the start, nurses said they had doubts about him. When they scrubbed in with him, they noticed he didn’t know which catheters to use or how to thread them, former cath-lab nurses Evan Gourley and Lana Rogers said in depositions
Federal investigators found more than 30 patients who received “worthless,” poor or unnecessary care from Azmat, according to experts’ case reviews and other documents filed in federal court. Azmat denied providing substandard or unneeded care and accused the government of withholding medical records from expert witnesses.
Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21233
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Prem »

Aditya_V wrote:What worries me that his daughter, who in all probability due to his influence is a member of this countries all powerful NAC. which means his thinking is very much part of the countries establishment.
Nothing but 100% unadulterated treason.
Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Peregrine »

ramana wrote:2. Mullah Radio killed in clash between Afghan, Pakistan Taliban : Report

So from Indian interests point of view Bad Taliban (Afghan wing) attack the good Taliban (TTP) and kill one of the main charcters. This is an ISI pasand operation.

From Indian interests POV good and bad Taliban is inverse of the Western definition.
ramana Ji :

IMO from Indian interests POV good and bad Taliban ARE BOTH BAD. The only GOOD Taliban is the DEAD TALIBAN.

Mark my words - The Taliban will take over Terroristan. Possibly they use the Army and/or the Poiticians as a Front with the Taliban calling ALL THE SHOTS.

Cheers Image
Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21233
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Prem »

Daggan
India in Karachi
( Seems Poaqs just put Mujamamdan names on Infrastructure Build By Hindus/sikhs)
In her book Malika-e-Mashriq (lit: Queen of the East), published 1947, Mehmooda Rizwiya writes on page 119 that there were the Vishnu Devi High School, the Carneiro Girls High School, the Sharda Mandir High School and the Bhanpat Mal Arya Putri Paathshala for girls in the city.
Under the title The Famous Banks of Karachi, Mehmooda Rizwiya writes in the same book that the National Bank of India, the Chartered Bank of India, and the Imperial Bank of India were the most famous banks. One day I was at the Press Club and was engaged in usual chit chat with friends. Aziz Sangar, who has produced many short documentaries on historical places for the private television channel he works for, was also in the group. He inquired from me, “So, what is your next blog about?” I told him it was going to be on old buildings in Karachi that are associated with India’s name. Well-informed about the subject, he increased my knowledge. He told me that the old building of the Bank of India is located opposite the City Courts. He also shared with me that the current State Bank of Pakistan building is probably the old Bank of India building, too.
chetak
BRF Oldie
Posts: 32714
Joined: 16 May 2008 12:00

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by chetak »

Jhujar wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:What worries me that his daughter, who in all probability due to his influence is a member of this countries all powerful NAC. which means his thinking is very much part of the countries establishment.
Nothing but 100% unadulterated treason.
Who are you talking about?? Please enlighten onlee
Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21233
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Prem »

chetak wrote:e="Jhujar"]uote="Aditya_V"]What worries me that his daughter, who in all probability due to his influence is a member of this countries all powerful NAC. which means his thinking is very much part of the countries establishmentNothing but 100% unadulterated treasonWho are you talking about?? Please enlighten onlee
[/quote]
Him and people like him and folks who appointed his types to NAC . This man leaves no brick unturned to undermine India and comfort our deadly enemy yet calls himself Indian.
ArmenT
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 4239
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 05:57
Location: Loud, Proud, Ugly American

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by ArmenT »

ramana wrote:

So from Indian interests point of view Bad Taliban (Afghan wing) attack the good Taliban (TTP) and kill one of the main charcters. This is an ISI pasand operation.


* From Indian interests POV igood and bad Taliban is inverse of rhe Wastern definition.
The only good Taliban is a dead Taliban. The world needs actual proof that Mullah Radio has indeed crossed over to the good Taliban status.
Anindya
BRFite
Posts: 1539
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 12:31
Location: USA

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Anindya »

More tales of Pakistaniyat, this should become a series....

Chilling moment a Slovakian woman taken to UK as a sex slave was handed to Pakistani immigrant for 'Dickensian' sham marriage so he could stay in Britain
Victim, 20, was drugged and kidnapped before being taken to England
She had to forcibly wed shop assistant due to be deported to Pakistan
Plied with vodka and beer before 'Nikah' marriage ceremony at mosque
Repeatedly raped by her new 'husband' whilst being detained in a flat
SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 25113
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by SSridhar »

ramana wrote:
So from Indian interests point of view Bad Taliban (Afghan wing) attack the good Taliban (TTP) and kill one of the main charcters. This is an ISI pasand operation.

* From Indian interests POV igood and bad Taliban is inverse of the Wastern definition.
ramana, Kunar is also an LeT province. This is where LeT came into being. This is where LeT runs a terror training camp as well. And, LeT is TSPA. To me, it appears, therefore, as another BAT (Border Action Team) kind of TSPA-LeT operation to take revenge for the assassination of Maj. Gen. Sanaullah. This is not a 'good' vs. 'bad' issue.

I agree with Peregrine that *we* cannot make the distinction even in the reverse because there is absolutely no such distinction. Both have a single Emir, the one-eyed Mullah Omar, and everybody took a bayat on him especially after he appeared wearing the Prophet's robe in Kandahar one Friday after the prayers and claimed himself to be the Caliph.
Anindya
BRFite
Posts: 1539
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 12:31
Location: USA

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Anindya »

Continuing saga of Pakistaniyat....

Humayoun Nabi And Ismail Alsarabbi Arrested In NYC For Supporting Taliban With Gear
NEW YORK (AP) — Two men tried to buy boots, winter coats and other gear for Taliban and al-Qaeda soldiers fighting U.S. troops in Afghanistan, authorities said Thursday in announcing state-level terrorism charges.

Humayoun Nabi, 32, and Ismail Alsarabbi, 27, were busted after a two-year investigation that involved confidential informants and undercover detectives, police said.

....
According to a criminal complaint, Nabi told a confidential informant that he hated the United States and wanted to take a stand. He told the informant he wanted to form a nonprofit where he could siphon away money for Afghan fighters. The nonprofit was not formed, police said.

"We are sitting here breathing in peace eating chicken and roasts and our brothers, they are dying," Nabi told the informant, according to the complaint.

The two suspects believed the key to beating U.S. forces overseas was through properly outfitted Taliban soldiers, authorities said. The fighters could then kill American soldiers "and cut them into pieces," Nabi said, according to the complaint.

Nabi, working with Alsarabbi, wanted to buy socks, shoes, coats and electronics to ship oversees to a warehouse. They met with a man set up by detectives who provided the men with sample gear, authorities said.

Nabi, who lives in Queens, is a Pakistan national who has a wife, child and good job, according to his attorney. Alsarabbi is a naturalized U.S. citizen and appeared in court with his brothers.
SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 25113
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by SSridhar »

Musharraf cannot be solely responsible for Bugti's murder or the Laal Masjid ops. His lawyers will argue the whole chain of Army hierarchy was involved and that is also the truth.
Satya_anveshi
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3532
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 02:37

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Post by Satya_anveshi »

^^Maulana Abdul Aziz was acquitted of all charges. That could be a quid pro quo for Mushy to be released as well. So, kammandu is all set to get out alive and continue giving lectures/lunches/dinners for fee unless some rogue qadri type takes it upon himself.
Post Reply