Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

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http://www.firstpost.com/world/musharra ... 45399.html

Musharraf approaches UN Human Rights chief to scrap treason trial
Lawyers of Pakistan's former military ruler Pervez Musharraf today called for an "immediate and unconditional" suspension of his treason trial, claiming the government is colluding with elements of the judiciary to "fix and manipulate" the proceedings. In a statement issued in London, the lawyers alleged that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has "manipulated the Pakistani legal process and used unlawful influence on the...judiciary to bring a barrage of unsubstantiated charges" against Musharraf, his long-time political rival. They called for an "immediate and unconditional suspension of the special court and a comprehensive investigation" into their claims. Pervez Musharraf. Reuters image The lawyers gave no specific details of their new claims, but said they had submitted them to the office of UN human rights chief Navi Pillay. {Name sounds very SDRE?}
I think treason trial and subsequent appeal to UN is a ploy by musharraf to get visa to foreign countries like Canada.
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Anujan wrote:http://www.firstpost.com/world/musharra ... 45399.html

Musharraf approaches UN Human Rights chief to scrap treason trial
Lawyers of Pakistan's former military ruler Pervez Musharraf today called for an "immediate and unconditional" suspension of his treason trial, claiming the government is colluding with elements of the judiciary to "fix and manipulate" the proceedings. In a statement issued in London, the lawyers alleged that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has "manipulated the Pakistani legal process and used unlawful influence on the...judiciary to bring a barrage of unsubstantiated charges" against Musharraf, his long-time political rival. They called for an "immediate and unconditional suspension of the special court and a comprehensive investigation" into their claims. Pervez Musharraf. Reuters image The lawyers gave no specific details of their new claims, but said they had submitted them to the office of UN human rights chief Navi Pillay. {Name sounds very SDRE?}
I think treason trial and subsequent appeal to UN is a ploy by musharraf to get visa to foreign countries like Canada.
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Navanethem "Navi" Pillay (born 23 September 1941) is the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights. A South African of Indian Tamil origin.
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Anujan wrote: I think treason trial and subsequent appeal to UN is a ploy by musharraf to get visa to foreign countries like Canada.
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Peregrine wrote:
Anujan wrote:http://www.firstpost.com/world/musharra ... 45399.html
Musharraf approaches UN Human Rights chief to scrap treason trial
[Navanethem "Navi" Pillay (born 23 September 1941) is the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights. A South African of Indian Tamil origin.
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Guys, for what its worth, my correspondence with this NYT reporter who wrote that piece on TSP's perfidy in AfPak.

Dear Ms. Gall,

A fascinating article by you in NYT on Pakistan's double-faced role in the so called global war on terror:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/magaz ... laden.html

One thing I would like to draw your attention to, and something that is not discussed in the open but is implicit: For 60+ years, the lynch pin of US strategy in the Indian subcontinent has been to maintain a military balance of power between India and Pakistan. Those of us who intimately follow US policy in the region are aware of this.

Thus, the clue to understanding why US is not willing to confront the real enemy, Pakistani military/ISI, is precisely this: US interests dictate the need for a strong Pakistani military/ISI to keep India off balance lest India dominate the region and beyond. High priests of US foreign policy like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, have said so many times on US media albeit indirectly. Note that the Pakistani military/ISI and the vast majority of the ruling elite have a compulsive, pathological obsession to destroy India; and terror, nuclear weapons, and the territory of Afghanistan (what they refer to as "strategic depth") are pivotal in their India strategy. Nobody knows this better than US policy makers, espcially the "South Asia" desk at the state department, CIA, think tanks etc; the tiny cabal entrusted with securing US interests at large in the region.

As a US citizen, it might be hard for you to accept, but the reality of US policy is how to work with Pakistani military/ISI, so that the terror machine it (Pakistan) has spawned is only used against India, and only India and away from the west & Israel. (And India presents many pitfalls that propagandists can use to cast any Indian response to Pakistan's terrorist machinations as "India Pakistan dispute" or "India Pakistan rivalry" etc). So much for this rubbish called the "global war on terror".

Bottom line: As you yourself point out, defeating terror means going after the source: Pakistan military/ISI. But that means allowing India, unfettered by the constant threat of Pakistan's aggression, to achieve its potential as an emerging power. This is something US is not yet prepared to accept.

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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:52:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Your article on Pakistan and OBL
From: gall@nytimes.com

Thank you for this - very interesting perspective.
and thank you for writing,
all bests, Carlotta

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Ms. Gall

This is not just an "interesting perspective" (thanks for the condescension :-)). You well-endowed US journalists with lots of resources to go places, should ask yourselves as to why is it that your US govt is ever so protective of Pakistani military and ISI? What is it that Iran has to done to US that Pak has not (the 1000s of US troops dead in Afghanistan can be directly traced to Pak perfidy), and why is Iran so "evil" while Pak receives billions and billions of military/economic aid? And above all, if truth matters to you, you should look into the countless terrorist attacks that Pak has inflicted on India, while posing as the champion of fighting terror, and finally, why is it that US has gone on with this fraud in co-opting Pak?

And BTW, you can ask Afghan officials and they will tell you furiously that the real enemy is Pak. Of course, its more convenient for nut balls to go on US TV and talk about Karzai's incompetence or corruption or "India Pak rivalry" as a subterfuge to explain away US travails in AfPak, when the one and only reason is US not confronting Pak for the larger geo-political goal: India containment.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 634391.cms

Two Talibans and India
Ashok Malik | Feb 19, 2014, 12.00AM IST


New Delhi must brace for a terrorist upsurge as civil wars in Pakistan and Afghanistan worsen.

Precarious anyway, "peace negotiations" between the Pakistani government and Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) - or simply the Pakistan Taliban - have suffered still more after news that TTP beheaded 23 Pakistani soldiers in its custody. India should be paying attention.

While national security has been almost absent in the pre-election political discourse, this cannot take away from the fact that India's security environment is set to undergo a dramatic change in 2014. The challenges the new government will end up facing in even its early months could be of an order unknown since the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks in 2008.

At the end of this year, American and international forces begin their withdrawal from Afghanistan. Even if a security agreement is signed with the government in Kabul that allows the Americans to retain a small presence, the overarching security umbrella that has been in place since the Taliban defeat in 2001 would have receded. A period when the greater jihad in Afghanistan (and inside Pakistan) overtook the lesser jihad in Kashmir and against India would come to a close. Twinned with this is Pakistan's own but different Taliban threat - in the form of TTP.

What is the state of play in both these trouble zones? In Afghanistan, western governments are confident that the Afghan army, largely officered by Tajiks, will be able to take on the Pashtun-led Taliban forces and keep the symbolically important city of Kabul for the foreseeable future. This confidence is somewhat negated by the admission of these very governments that the Taliban is likely to chip away at territory, especially in southern Afghanistan, and will invite defections, seek to win over supporters from the government side, make economic and developmental projects unviable and destroy signs of progress such as girls' schools.

Despite this, western diplomatic sources continue to insist that Kabul, though likely surrounded, will still hold. Is this optimism justified? How does one square it with reports that property prices in Kabul are falling? There is evidence that the city's (non-Taliban Pashtun) elite is moving money and investments to other places, such as Dubai, where the ongoing property boom is dependent at least to some degree on the flight from Afghanistan.

While the Pakistani army would hope for a Taliban takeover of Kabul or at least removal of a leadership in the city that is not in the control of Rawalpindi, the in-house Taliban question in Pakistan poses quite another dilemma. Here Pakistani generals are theoretically determined to fight TTP and stave off a challenge to the state. TTP's ultimate goal is the capture of Islamabad and formal conversion of Pakistan into an Islamist lebensraum. As such, in the battle against TTP, Indians find themselves in the unusual position of rooting for the Pakistan army.

Yet, here too there are complications. Intelligence sources suggest the Pakistan army is too tired and incapacitated to take on TTP in its strongholds of North Waziristan, even if the Nawaz Sharif government gives permission to do so. A quick, decisive victory for the army is ruled out. The TTP has a growing footprint in Punjab and Sindh, including in the urban centres of Lahore and Karachi. An army onslaught would drive TTP warriors out of Waziristan and into the heartland of Punjab. A civil war in Pakistan, to match a civil war in Afghanistan, would result.

Civilian Pakistani politicians, whether Nawaz Sharif or former cricketer Imran Khan, seem to take a more indulgent view of TTP. They look upon it as representing an insurgency and a disaffection that can be appeased with territorial concessions, with imposition of strict sharia laws in its regions and with offering it a slice of political power. That explains "peace talks" with TTP. In short, the Pakistan army may not even get permission to wage war on TTP, never mind if it can win the war in the first place.

What happens in case of a deal between the Sharif government and TTP? Pakistani political leadership would hope to co-opt the Pakistan Taliban, as it has the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). It is to be noted that TTP, LeT and the Pakistan army recruit from the same areas in Pakistani Punjab. In the short run, the only common target Islamabad can find for the army, LeT and a potentially or partially co-opted TTP is an external adversary. The pressure on India would be obvious.

There is one other concern. Sections of the Pakistan army and Inter-Services Intelligence have a history of testing a new Indian leader. In 1990, V P Singh encountered reckless threats about a nuclear attack on New Delhi. In 1999, Atal Bihari Vajpayee had an invasion on his hands in Kargil. What awaits the prime minister who takes office in New Delhi in May 2014?

It is possible all of this is scaremongering and actually the civil wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan will continue for long enough to give India breathing space. Even so, a medium-term nightmare scenario - with the Afghan Taliban closing in on Kabul and Pakistan Taliban getting a slice of state power - cannot be ruled out. For India, it would be the perfect storm.

The writer is a political commentator.
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Apparently Pakis reprint NYTimes and circulate the hardcopy. This is how Carlotta Gall's piece appeared

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So "The free and vibrant Pakistani media...." joins "Pakistani society is largely secular with less than 10% voting for religious parties"
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Looks like the friendly ISI agint made a phone call to Express Tribune.. NYT article by Ms. Gall vanishes from the front page in the paki print edition..

Liberal, independent, vibrant Paki media on display
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^^^
Why this kolaveri, kolaveri ...?

The vibrant media is displaying their large hearts by having tall, fair whitespaces, rather than filling it up with small, dark print. Whitespace is good, no?
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/685962/-thi ... khtunkhwa/

Thinking about the big move: The Sikh way of life changing in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa

They settled in Peshawar, Orakzai, Kurram Agency, and North and South Waziristan and since then, have made a name for themselves in the fields of herbal medicine and cloth.He added that they did not want to leave the land of their grandfathers, and while it breaks their hearts, if the situation remains miserable for them, they will have to do so.Paramjeet Singh was gunned down in Shabqadar in the middle of the bazaar by unidentified men. His employee was also killed. This led the Sikhs of K-P to stage a silent protest against target killings.The police said that he was a resident of Dabgari and ran a medicine shop in the bazaar. He was on his way home in the evening when two men opened fire at him. A few weeks later, two Sikh hakims were kidnapped from DI Khan.They were in the area for business when the incident took place and are still missing. According to Hardyal Singh, the situation was alarming. “We are a minority,” he said.“Last month, Bhagwan Singh was shot by target killers, and then two Sikhs were kidnapped from DI Khan in the same month.” He added that incidents of Sikh kidnapping and killings were on the rise and had become more so in the last few months.In the past, he said, Sikh families from Kurram and Orakzai agencies were forced to flee the tribal region because of unrest.Many families sought refuge at Punja Sahib in Hasanabdal, Punjab. Right now in Peshawar there are about 200 Sikh families. The chief minister, for his part, asked the police to find the culprits.
He did, however, add that the hakim did not have any personal enmity and he might have been killed because of his faith. Mahmood Khan, who has worked with Paramjeet, said that he had enjoyed his time with the man as he was peace loving and would never hurt anyone.He added that Paramjeet’s patients would really suffer and those who had made progress would now have to find another doctor for their ailments. Paramjeet’s brother, Harjeet said that he was not satisfied with the police investigation.He added that there was no positive response from the government. The district police official of Charsadda, Shafiullah said the deadline set by the chief minister had passed and they had traced a suspect and would reach the main culprit.He refused to share further details. According to Dr Soran Singh, the adviser to the CM on minorities, there are about 25,000 Sikhs in the province – mostly in Buner, Swat, DI Khan, Bara, Khyber, Kurram and Orakzai agencies.
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World Sikhi organisations strangely quiet.
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AoA! Pakistan din todin.

In 1947 Islam was in danger in kafir dominated subcontinent. In 2014, Islam is in danger in North West South Asia. There is a need for another direct action day to create a separate homeland for true Muslims of North West South Asia. Inshallah! Two nation theory zindabad. Jinnah is such an inspiration.

Pakistan din mubarakan!
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partha wrote:AoA! Pakistan din todin.
Pakistan din mubarakan!
Prepetual GUBO Day , Haan JI!

Islam Khatre Ki Dastan Phir Challi Ayye

Assharfiyon Ki Chaah Mey Baki Utthaye Ranj Bharre
Baki Nasseb Ke FourFathers Farraye Sundh Kharre
Kaffir "Mussharrfiyan" Hi Peeche Sey, Buss Nikal Ayyee

Islam Khatre Mey Hai ,Shariat Se Gaflat Hai
Taliban, Greenest Islam Se Kyon Itni Nafrat Hai
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sudhan wrote:Image

Looks like the friendly ISI agint made a phone call to Express Tribune.. NYT article by Ms. Gall vanishes from the front page in the paki print edition..

Liberal, independent, vibrant Paki media on display
When you allow the NYT to publish a Paki edition just to lick gora ass and make them think you are one of them, you have to put up with stupidity like this where no one can put a fig leaf "alternative" story to cover the blank whits space and pretend nothing is missing.
But Pakis basically have no sham, honor or dignity.
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as expected, the punishment for being accused of blasphemy in Pakistan is always death...

Pak man gunned down despite being acquitted in blasphemy case
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Anindya wrote:as expected, the punishment for being accused of blasphemy in Pakistan is always death...

Pak man gunned down despite being acquitted in blasphemy case
Next is the judge for acquitting him in the first place. The fact that true momin have killed him is solid proof that the dead person was a blasphemer. Otherwsie, they would not have killed him. Either the judge gets Canadian visa or he is dead meat.
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Mohammadden terrorist supporting Politician and former cabinet Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Sheikh Ahmed Rashid, does not get a “Canadian Visa” as Transportation Security Administration the American Department of Home Land Security, did not give clearance for him to overfly US air space enroute to Toronto

Sheikh Rashid offloaded from Toronto-bound PIA flight

Back in June 2012, Sheikh Rashid was briefly detained at Houston airport in the US:

Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed briefly detained at Houston airport

The Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting ways of Sheikh Rashid, especially that targeting India, was complimented by Mohammadden Terrorist Yasin Malik. Pakistani journalist Amir Mir writing in Outlook Magazine back in 2005:

He supported the JKLF, and helped train militants. Thanks to Yasin, Sheikh Rashid's dirty secret is out.

His terrorist fomenting ways resulted in India refusing permission to him for travelling on the Muzaffarabad to Srinagar bus in June 2005 when he was serving as the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Information Minister:

Rashid’s bus travel plea rejected

Being thick skinned, Sheikh Rasheed, then holding the new portfolio of Railway Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakista sought a visa in to visit India in November 2007 to watch a cricket match at Mohali. He was rightly denied a visa:

Pakistan Railways Minister denied Indian visa
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David Browne writing in the UK’s Telegraph reports that the Land of the Pure is “in the grip of mass drug addiction” :
................ Eleven per cent of the population here use drugs. KPK – and indeed Pakistan as a whole – is reeling from an epidemic of hardcore drug abuse. According to the most recent report on the country by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), Drug Use in Pakistan 2013, there are 6.7 million people who use illicit substances, of which 4.25 million are considered drug-dependent. UNODC calculates that more than 800,000 Pakistanis aged between 15 and 64 use heroin regularly and that there are almost five million cannabis users addicted to smoking high-grade hashish called charas. It is estimated that up to 44 tons of processed heroin are consumed in Pakistan annually – suggesting a rate of use two or three times America’s – and a further 110 tons of heroin and morphine from neighbouring Afghanistan are trafficked through Pakistan to international markets. ...................
Read it here:

How Pakistan succumbed to a hard-drug epidemic
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http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070630/a ... 992715.asp
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IQBAL’S HINDU RELATIONS
THIS ABOVE ALL - Khushwant Singh

Unity in diversity
I am beholden to P.V. Rawal of Jammu for sending me a photograph of Allama Iqbal’s Kashmiri Brahmin family taken in Sialkot in 1931. At this time Iqbal was in his mid-fifties. He had already risen to the top as the greatest Urdu poet, at par with Mirza Asadullah Khan Ghalib. Although he was proud of his Brahmin descent, he had nothing to say about his Hindu relations. In this picture, the elderly lady seated in the middle is his grandmother, Indirani Sapru, nicknamed Poshi, wife of Pandit Kanhaya Lal Sapru. The man standing on the left in a shawl is Iqbal’s cousin, Amarnath Sapru; note the close resemblance to the poet.

The family traces its origin to one Birbal. They lived in the village of Saprain (hence, the surname Sapru) on Shopian-Kulgam road. Then the family moved to Srinagar where Iqbal and most of his cousins were born. Birbal had five sons and a daughter. The third one, Kanhaya Lal, and his wife, Indirani, had three sons and five daughters. Kanhaya Lal was Iqbal’s grandfather. His son, Rattan Lal, converted to Islam and was given the name Nur Mohammad. He married a Muslim woman — Imam Bibi. The Saprus disowned Rattan Lal and severed all connections with him. There are different versions of Rattan Lal’s conversion. The one given to me by Syeda Hameed, who has translated some of Iqbal’s poetry into English, maintains that Rattan Lal was the revenue collector of the Afghan governor of Kashmir. He was caught embezzling money. The governor offered him a choice: he should either convert to Islam or be hanged. Rattan Lal chose to stay alive. When the Afghan governor fled from Kashmir to escape its takeover by the Sikhs, Rattan Lal migrated to Sialkot. Imam Bibi was evidently a Sialkoti Punjabi. Iqbal was born in Sialkot on November 9, 1877. As often happens, the first generation of converts are more kattar than others. Iqbal thus grew up to be a devout Muslim. It is believed that once he called on his Hindu grandmother, then living in Amritsar. But there is no hard evidence of their meeting and of what passed between them; Iqbal did not write about it. Though he had many Hindu and Sikh friends and admirers, he felt that the future of Indian Muslims lay in having a separate state of their own. Iqbal was the principal ideologue of what later become Pakistan. Iqbal’s mother-tongue was Punjabi but he never wrote in it. He used only Persian and Urdu, as did many Urdu poets before him.

There are many aspects of Iqbal’s personal life which have not been fully researched by his biographers. We know he married two or three times and that his favourite son was Javed, who became a judge of the Lahore high court. Iqbal’s affair with Atia Faizi of Bombay when they met in London is well-known. There must have been some correspondence between them to show the kind of relationship they had. When in Heidelberg, he was taken up by his young German tutor, Emma Veganast. This secret was divulged by the mayor of Heidelberg in a speech in which he named a part of the bank of the river Neckar after him — Iqbal Weg. The Pakistani ambassador to Germany had the mayor’s speech mentioning the girl’s name suppressed. Iqbal and Emma continued to write to each other till the end of his life. The correspondence should be available in archives in Lahore and Heidelberg. Lovers of Iqbal, among whom I count myself, deserve to be presented with a fuller picture of their idol. We have biographies of Rabindranath Tagore revealing all his love affairs but none of the Allama telling us of the kind of man he was.
Iqbal went through the same changeover that Jinnah and others went through. He wrote "Sare Jahan se Accha" in 1904 IIRC, but by the time of his death, he was a firm proponent of a separate homeland for muslims of the subcontinent. The Brits picked up on this and the rest is history.

So the idea of Pakistan predates the Lahore resolution in 1940. The idea was tested as early as the Khilafat agitation when several Muslim families left their homes in UP to go live in Afghanistan but were turned by the Islamic rulers of Afghanistan.
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2008 Indian Embassy Bombing Attack in Kabul Sanctioned by ISI - Carlotta Gall - ToI
The deadly 2008 terror attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul was sanctioned and monitored by senior officials of Pakistan's ISI, according to a new book.

The suicide car bomb attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul on July 7, 2008 left 58 people, including two top Indian officials, killed and over 140 injured.

"The embassy bombing was no operation by rogue ISI agents acting on their own. It was sanctioned and monitored by the most senior officials in Pakistani intelligence," wrote senior journalist Carlotta Gall in her latest book 'The Wrong Enemy: America in Afghanistan 2001-2004', to be out next month.

The then Bush administration, that received advance intelligence information, mainly through intercepts of phone calls, could not prevent the deadly attack, wrote Gall, one of the only women western reporters on the ground in Afghanistan after 9/11 and covered the AfPak conflict for 10 years.

The bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul "revealed the clearest evidence of ISI complicity in its planning and execution", according to excerpts from the book.

"American and Afghan surveillance intercepted phone calls from ISI officials in Pakistan and heard them planning the attack with the militants in Kabul in the days leading up to the bombing. At the time, intelligence officials monitoring the calls did not know what was being planned, but the involvement of a high-level official in promoting a terrorist attack was clear.

"The evidence was so damning that the Bush administration dispatched the deputy chief of the CIA, Stephen Kappes, to Islamabad to remonstrate with the Pakistanis. The bomber struck, however, before Kappes reached Pakistan," she said.

"Investigators found the bomber's cell phone in the wreckage of his exploded car. They tracked down his collaborator in Kabul, the man who had provided the logistics for the attack. That facilitator, an Afghan, had been in direct contact with Pakistan by telephone," Gall wrote.

"The number he had called belonged to a high-level ISI official in Peshawar. The official had sufficient seniority that he reported directly to ISI headquarters in Islamabad. The embassy bombing was no operation by rogue ISI agents acting on their own. It was sanctioned and monitored by the most senior officials in Pakistani intelligence," she claimed in her book, running into more than 300 pages.

While Pakistan has repeatedly denied its involvement in the Indian embassy attack, several mainstream US newspapers, including The New York Times, and the governments of India and Afghanistan have accused the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of being behind the attack.

In her book, Gall said the choice of attack was revealing.

She wrote: "An attack on the Indian embassy and the military attache, longtime foes of Pakistan, could be explained by Pakistan as stemming from 60 years of antagonistic relations.

"But this was not a subtle attack needling an old foe. It was a massive car bomb detonated in the centre of a capital city; designed to cause maximum injury and terror. The plan was also to terrify and undermine the confidence of the Afghans and their government, sending a message not just to India but to the forty-two countries that were contributing to the Nato-led international force to rebuild Afghanistan."

"The aim was to make the cost too high for everyone to continue backing the (Afghan President Hamid) Karzai government. The ISI wanted them all to go home," she wrote.

According to Gall, as the Afghan government investigated the attack on the Indian Embassy, they became convinced that the "ISI was working with al Qaida, the Taliban, the Haqqanis, and Pakistani groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba," which was behind most of the attacks on Indian targets.

"You think after so many years of this, we don't know who our enemy is?" a senior Afghan security official retorted when I questioned his findings. His American counterparts knew as well but just could not admit what Pakistan was doing, out of hubris, he said.

"They always have the evidence, but they think the viability of Pakistan is more important," Gall wrote. {It was Amarullah Saleh's time and he held no punches about ISI and Pakistan}

However, Pakistan denied all this, she said.
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Paul wrote:There are different versions of Rattan Lal’s conversion. The one given to me by Syeda Hameed, who has translated some of Iqbal’s poetry into English, maintains that Rattan Lal was the revenue collector of the Afghan governor of Kashmir. He was caught embezzling money. The governor offered him a choice: he should either convert to Islam or be hanged. what great ancestry and what noble reasons for converting When in Heidelberg, he was taken up by his young German tutor, Emma Veganast. This secret was divulged by the mayor of Heidelberg in a speech in which he named a part of the bank of the river Neckar after him — Iqbal Weg. The Pakistani ambassador to Germany had the mayor’s speech mentioning the girl’s name suppressed.True pakistaniat
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Maqsood Qureshi among two JSQM leaders ‘killed’
Saturday, March 22, 2014
NAWABSHAH/SUKKUR: Central leader of the Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz (JSQM) Maqsood Ahmed Qureshi, the brother of the late former JSQM chairman Bashir Khan Qureshi, was found dead in mysterious circumstances at Bhirya Road, Nausharoferoz, on Friday.

The deceased nationalist leader had gone missing a day earlier with his phone switched off. An eyewitness, identified as Altaf Hussain Kairio, said he had seen a car at the Bhirya Road engulfed in flames. Kairio said he along with other villagers of Mir Muhammad Rajper tried to rescue its two occupants but the car and its travellers were completely burnt.

The villagers denied hearing any explosion. Later, through police investigation, it surfaced that the car had been in the use of Maqsood Qureshi.JSQM Chairman Sannan Qureshi, along with other party workers, identified the victims as Maqsood Qureshi and Salman Wadho and accused the establishment of killing both the nationalist leaders. He said the establishment had warned his party to withdraw their freedom march in Karachi to be taken out on the 23rd of this month; however, he said the cancellation of the march was out of the question.

SSP Niaz Ahmed Chandio said an investigation was underway to ascertain the cause of the fire in the vehicle and a case would be registered after the DNA test of the bodies was done.Meanwhile, tension gripped various cities of Sindh, including Hyderabad, Sukkur, Shahdadkot, Larkana, Nawabshah and Khairpur. The JSQM activists staged sit-ins and took out protest rallies throughout the province against the alleged killing of the nationalist leaders.

Chairman JSQM Sannan Qureshi, along with hundreds of party activists, staged a protest on the National Highway, Nausharoferoz, along with the burnt bodies of the nationalist leaders and demanded the arrest of killers.

The protest on the National Highway blocked the traffic for more than 10 hours. The JSQM has also announced a strike for today (Saturday).At Nawabshah, hundreds of armed activists emerged on roads after the incident and forced the shopkeepers to close down their businesses. A complete shutter down was also observed in Larkana where all the markets remained closed and transporters kept their vehicles off the roads.

Meanwhile, Qaumi Awami Tehreek chief Ayaz Latif Palijo, Sindh United Party chairman Jalal Mahmood Shah, Sindh Tarraqi Passand Party chairman Dr Qadir Magsi in separate statements condemned the alleged killing and demanded a probe into the “gruesome murder” of the JSQM leaders.
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sanjaykumar wrote:World Sikhi organisations strangely quiet.
They will only speak out if it is India and Hindus (since many of them are khalistani oreinted)
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Two policemen killed in Lahore

LAHORE : Armed men killed two policemen after kidnapping them in Sanda area of the city, Geo News reported.

Police said that they conducted a raid in Sanda to arrest a group involved in car lifting. They said that the armed men kidnapped them in a car and threw their bodies in different areas.

The bodies were taken to a hospital for medico-legal formalities.
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Indian mujahedeen should be renamed South Asian mujahedeen. Given that so many are from "South Asia"
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... years-ago/
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Psgal Paki Terre Dimag Pey Ronna Ayya
Regional stability
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In any pursuit of peace between India and Pakistan, arms control and arms reductions will be one of the main challenges. Over previous years, Pakistan has been forwarding viable proposals and in this regard a Strategic Restraint Regime is still on the table. Despite raising the bogey of China for international consumption, over 80 percent of Indian weapon systems and around 90 percent of military command and control structures are Pakistan specific. India has no application of its huge inventory of armour, short legged aircraft and tactical missiles in the context of China. Beside the domain of military inventories, India’s dangerous doctrinal notions like Cold Start doctrine, Pro-Active Operations and massive nuclear retaliations in case of the use of battlefield or tactical nukes, are serious psychological barriers in the way of viable disarmament. These issues must be addressed in a mutually acceptable way.Arms build-up in the India-Pakistan scenario is no longer a bilateral issue because India maintains that its main military threat emanates from China. However, India has bilateral trade of US$ 80 billion with China, and so this is paradoxical. Besides creating other perceptional distortions, this position has made any arms control or arms reduction initiative unworkable, and has made it a trilateral matter. India continues to follow a trajectory of massive arms build-up, which has a direct bearing on the stability of this region. India is the biggest buyer of arms in the world. During the last five years it has imported nearly three times as many weapons as China and Pakistan combined. Indian imports of major weapons have gone up by 111 percent in the last five years as compared to 2004-08. Its share of total global arms imports has increased from 7 to 14 percent of the global arms trade, thus making it the world’s largest importer. Its imports are 14 per cent of the global total. During 2009–13 India invested heavily in air-strike capabilities. It received 90 of 222 Su-30MKI combat aircraft ordered from Russia. It also received 27 of a total of 45 MiG-29K combat aircraft ordered for use on its aircraft carriers. India has 62 Russian MiG-29SMT and 49 French Mirage 2000-5 combat aircraft on order. It has also selected, but not yet ordered, 144 Russian T-50 tanks :eek: and 126 French Rafale combat aircraft.In recent years, submarines have increasingly featured among the acquisitions of many Asian countries. While China and Japan continue to build their own designs, other existing submarine operators have imported new boats. During 2009–13 India received a nuclear-powered sub marine from Russia; it is also building 6 French submarines under licence and plans 6 more. A series of safety and security related incidents— particularly submarines related— led to the resignation of the Indian Naval Chief. Nine officers and men died in the last six months in two submarine accidents with one submarine written off and another grounded. It indicates that the Indian Navy is suffering from the phenomenon of pursuing an unrealistic overreach.Factors like a widening gap in the conventional capability and setting up of anti ballistic-missile defence systems by India are contributing towards the weakening of nuclear deterrence as well.
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PEW PEW PEW PAKIPILLA BOLLEH
Becoming Arabia Land-Scraper Like seems inescapable: PEW
MALSIBAD- The Pakistan Economy Watch (PEW) today said water scarcity is to transform Pakistan into a totally failed state within a decade. War between Pakistan and India on the issue of water resources seems inevitable as serious efforts by Islamabad to increase trade between the two countries has not helped New Delhi to change its policy of water aggression, said Dr. Murtaza Mughal, President PEW. Speaking at a seminar on World Water Day, he said that according Most Favoured Nation status to India may not change its decades-old policy to make Pakistan infertile Eunch.The issue of water aggression cannot be resolved through enhanced trade or negotiations, as India may not like to settle the dispute except a full scale armed conflict with global implications, he observed. Dr. Mottataza Mongrel said that all the civilian and military governments of Pakistan have failed to ensure water security or advocate India to change its long-term policy of destroying Pakistan through water hostilities. India will continue to build dams violating Indus Water Treaty, while majority of international forums would continue to support New Delhi which has left Pakistan will little options, he said. Presently Pakistan can store ten million acre feet of water while it had storage capacity of sixteen million acre feet of water some thirty eight years ago. According to a report of World Bank, water scarcity became a threat in Pakistan some eleven years ago as per capita water availability was around half of the accepted international level. Dr. Mongrel said that water scarcity will become a great danger in the next ten years which will hurt masses, agriculture and industry leading to tensions between provinces and civil war which would be enough to make Pakistan a totally failed state.
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Prime Djinister urged to ban import of medicines
Madrassa Medicine Making
ISLAMABAD: The government should impose a ban on the import of medicines and ask multinational pharmaceutical companies (MPCs) to start manufacturing drugs in the country.This will not only reduce the import bill of medicines but will also help Pakistan start exporting medicines. Talibans have given assurance to not to behead or amputate the employees MPC as long as they dont make Polio drops.These were the main points of a letter sent to Prime Canister Nawaz Sharif by the Young Pharmacists Association. The letter stated that in the 1960s the total value of MPCs in Pakistan was $2.8 billion which has now decreased to just 40 million dollars.The prime Canister was informed that 61,256 factories were manufacturing medicines in India. The Indian pharmaceutical industry is not only providing quality medicines in the local market but is also exporting drugs worth $25 billion every year by manufacturing 4,282 brands.The US is importing more medicines from India than the entire Europe. India only allows MPCs to do business by manufacturing not only formulations but also pharmaceutical ingredients. Moreover, five per cent revenue of the multinationals are spent on research and development. The pharmaceutical firms also run welfare, free food, clean drinking water and community education projects in India, the letter added. It said that Bangladesh was exporting 36 global brands and never granted retail price to MPCs more than its national companies. But the situation is totally different in Pakistan where MPCs have never established any factory approved by the food and drug administration of US. Today the total value of MPC factories is Rs4 billion, which is equal to about $40 million.MPCs managed to devise such policies that blocked competition in the pharmaceutical industry in Pakistan. It is nearly impossible for a skilled professional to set up a pharmaceutical factory in Pakistan, added the letter. Maareez Chabeela Latif, the secretary coordination Young Pharmacists Association, said the pharmaceutical industry in Pakistan was not manufacturing a single global brand. “MPCs never built any hospital, college or university in Pakistan. They hardly participated in any community welfare project. They have never spent a single penny on research and development. “They are just selling medicines on very high prices. This is the reason medicines are being smuggled in from Iran and India,” she said. Maareez Chabeela said India, China and Bangladesh had made friendly laws for local pharmaceutical industry. “We have appealed to the prime minister to amend the laws and rules in such a way that young pharmacists may start their own factories,” she said.
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/685490/expe ... echnology/
Expert-level talks: US says talks under way on civil nuclear technology
KARACHI:

Deputy spokesperson for the American embassy Sandeep K Paul has said that expert-level talks are in progress regarding the provision of civil nuclear technology by the United States to Pakistan. However, he did not specify a time frame for the outcome of the talks.

Speaking with Express News, he said the possibility of such an agreement between the two countries cannot be dismissed. There is no issue with Pakistan regarding the agreement on the provision of nuclear reactors to Pakistan by China, he said, adding the US has some reservations over China’s refusal to implement agreements made by the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Sandeep Paul said Pakistan’s relations with China are its internal issue. Pakistan can have relations with any country of the world that suits its national interest and the US has nothing to do with this, he reiterated. The US also does not have any position on Pakistan’s talks with Taliban as it is completely an internal matter, he said.
What's cooking?
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Key IM Operative, three other in police net - Devesh K Pandey, The Hindu

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“Waqas, a diploma holder in food technology from the Government College of Technology in Faisalabad in Pakistan, underwent training in the handling of weapons and explosives at an LeT camp in Naushera and another camp associated with the Jaish-e-Mohammed in the Waziristan Federally Administered Tribal Area,” said Mr. Shrivastava[Special Commissioner of Police, Delhi
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Now that exposes the Pakistan Army and it is very clear that the IM is a tool of the PA in India. The PA chooses the appropriate terror tanzeem to give specialized training. Everyone knows LeT is now a part of the PA. Pakistan Army. The creation of JeM is attributed to Lt. Gen. Mahmoud Ahmed, chief of ISI (between 1999 – 2001). That was why China bluntly rejected in the UNSC Indian evidence on JeM & Maulana Masood Azhar as 'insufficient'. The Dec. 13, 2001 Parliament attcka was a joint operation by LeT & JeM. We know of the Balakot facility of JeM, but I am hearing about the facility in the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan (North or South or both ?) only now. Like the expanding nuclear arsenal of Pakistan, the jihadi training camps also seem to be expanding.

Also, we see the irony here. In the past JeM, in collaboration with Al Qaeda, had attacked the Pakistani State itself and yet it was the creation of the PA and PA continues to influence it today. JeM also has facilities in the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan where TTP rules and yet the PA chooses to send the recruit for the next higher level learning there. TTP allows that because the enemy, for whom the recruit is meant, is a kafir.

PS: It may be that the Balakot facility was relocated to the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan after the earthquake there.
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@partha

It is move by uncle to press India. But I really welcome this step. US is not learning from its failures or past mistakes. Any way we are threaten by China-Pak noclear black market. For us it does not matter much if uncle join the group. They will only learn when they feel the heat of it ...like 9/11.

Like I predicted, we are parting our ways with uncle. Let be more power to uncle-pak-china.
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Unkil talking to TSP about civil nuclear deal to Pak is a good thing no?
Should we not praise the American public for their charity despite being whacked left right and centre by Pakis.?
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The thing is Saudi (über pure)-UK (chamcha)-Uncle ... bank rolled the noclear with china providing the tech. Few importants point to note are
- that beggars got more ready made masala then us.
- Uncle very close chamcha is broke, so losing its shine.
- über pure and uncle will bank roll further. Über pure are going to roll it for foreseeable future but there is a limit.
- Pure are going to break somewhere ... the more masala, quicker it will happen.
- as a padosi we will be effected so or so. Keep border and security tight to minimise the risk and lower our expose to it.
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I wrote this on May 13, 2013 here
I was surprised by the earlier Pakistan stance of supporting Morsi's ouster. Probably, Pakistan was playing some game with the US to gain some benefits. Now that, it has fallen into place with the US line, we can guess that some deal has been struck (Diamar-Basha, trade preferences, access to more IMF funds, US leaning on India, a nuclear deal - take your pick)
By the way, all of those picks are coming true. Egypt, Syria, Afghanistan and of course the constant India-factor are all contributing.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/femal ... tan-n60826
Female Polio Worker Brutally Killed in Pakistan
The bullet-riddled body of a female polio worker was recovered Monday in Peshawar, northwest Pakistan, with her lips cut and hands broken.

Government officials in Peshawar said the incident was the “worst” so far to happen to polio workers in the country, but were reluctant to say she killed because of her work.
Anti polio violence is a violence of peace.
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Anti-Polio Violence in TSP is Violence in pieces.

Sorry for the lady.
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partha wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/685490/expe ... echnology/
Expert-level talks: US says talks under way on civil nuclear technology
What's cooking?
Until some non-Paki source reports this, I would be very skeptical.
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No Consensus Yet on MFN Status to India, says Sharif - Meena Menon, The Hindu
Prime Minister Muhammed Nawaz Sharif said on Monday that Pakistan had postponed giving India the Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status, according to news reports.

Speaking to the media on the sidelines of the third International Nuclear Security Summit in The Hague, Mr. Sharif there was no consensus on granting India MFN status and he had asked all stakeholders to discuss the matter.

Last Friday, the Federal Cabinet was slated to meet and approve MFN or non discriminatory market access(NDMA) to India but the meeting was not held.

There has been opposition from various quarters on giving India this status and farmers planned an agitation at the Wagah border from March 31 in protest.

Farmer groups felt they would be at a disadvantage, as India had subsidies for agriculture which Pakistan did not if market access was given.

The Prime Minister was quoted as saying in the news report that the granting of MFN status was postponed because of the forthcoming general election in India and Pakistan did not want to favour any one political party.
Pakistan has offered so many excuses in the last three years when the MFN status took the centre stage upon American prodding. The latest two excuses were that every stake holder was on board but the phrase 'Most Favoured' was us-saleable in Pakistan and hence it must be changed to 'Non Discriminatory Market Access' and then the excuse was that it would be decided after Indian elections.

But, now Nawaz Sharif has accepted that there is no consensus at all on the very basic premise of giving MFN to India, thus striking at the very root. We are back to square one.

We knew that TSP was enacting a farcical drama all the while but the incumbent government was willing to bend to any degree (possibly under US pressure also) to accept any offer. Three years back, Indian newspapers headlined that MFN had already been granted !
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Finally, Sethi al Jehadi has revealed the truth on why bakistan lost their first match to India.

Yes! It was Overconfidence
confusion and overconfidence led to bakistan’s defeat against India in the World-T20 match
Not that India was a better team. No Sir!! It was confusion that led the bakis to lose their match.
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At what point will the baki leaders realize that the world is, well, not serious about the bakis when they hear such platitudes as bakistan nuclear security as exemplary.
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif says the United States has declared Pakistan’s security of its nuclear assets as an example for the world
He said that Pakistan’s nuclear materials, facilities and assets were safe and secure and the country’s nuclear security regime was anchored in the principle of multi-layered defense for the entire spectrum - insider, outsider or cyber threat
Not quitting while he was ahead, shareef badmash went on to declare:
Pakistan had been running a safe, secure and safeguarded civil nuclear program for more than forty years
The Prime Minister called for Pakistan’s inclusion in all international export control regimes, especially the Nuclear Suppliers Group
When he made the next statement, it left everybody speechless:
Looking back, we can say with confidence that our decisions and commitments have spurred national action, promoted international cooperation and fostered nuclear security culture
Taking advantage of the stunned silence and mistaking it for people's acceptance of his claims, shareef badmash added:
We all need radioactive sources for hospitals, industry and research; but should be vigilant about radiological threats
Give this man an honorary doctorate in noocliar fyjiks.
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