Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

member_20385 · Post by **member_20385** » 20 May 2014 11:45

@ Agnimitra ji, 100% agree. The retaliation has to be covert- if overt, costs will be too high for Indian economy. Our first and foremost priority should be to grow at the rate of 8-10% till our GDP reaches 9 to 10 trillion dollars. In any case, if the desired results can be obtained at minimal costs through covert means what is the point of employing overt means.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 20 May 2014 11:54

This is my real life experience. I have a neighbour who is as nasty as they can get and bulldozes most association meetings with his behaviour. THere was once an issue with some piping which he tried to have the costs foisted on me which I saw through. I politely refused but with his juvenile antics and Rajnikanth style punch dialogues kept pressing. I showed that I can bite as well as bark better than him with some pretty nice language and antics post which he mellowed down. No use being a gentleman with him.

This is the language Pakistan understands as do the Chinese. Low birth brought about by inbreeding prevents them from understanding benign intentions. Show them the snake can hiss and hiss pretty good like we did in Kargil.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 May 2014 12:15

ArmenT wrote:Saudis didn't want to admit that they let non-muslims into Mecca . . .

And, Pakistanis do not want to admit that they actually fought along with the infidel French and against a purer group of wahhabi brothers and that too at the Kabah !

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 20 May 2014 12:51

OT, So what happened to those converted French Commandos..Are they still Muslims Mashallah or have they become murtad and hence wajib-ul-Qatl ?

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 20 May 2014 12:57

Shankk wrote:
arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan has thrown down the gauntlet with direct involvement of "State Actors":

Army jawan killed, 2 injured in suspected attack by Pak's BAT
I support admitting Pakistani players in IPL with a great fanfare to their population. Project the importance of people to people contact. How India is striving to normalize relations. Include platitudes about how good relations will prosperity to both countries under the leadership of Modi. This need not be limited to IPL only. It can be extended to few other sops as long as that does not imply much cost to India.

..
Let the Pakistanis duke it out instead of our army on the border.

Good idea. Let us take a slow and calibrated approach and start first with Pakistani Cheerleaders (women ya -arrah). If STFUpians behave badly, the girls will be gently spanked with a cricket bat during the matches.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 20 May 2014 16:32

7 killed as violence revisits Karachi

KARACHI : At least seven people were killed in different parts of Karachi as fresh wave of violence hit the city home to at least 20 million people and commercial hub of the nuclear armed nation.

According to reports, two brothers and a prayer leader of a local mosque also fell prey to targeted killings.

Police said that two men identified as Amanullah Qadri and Ameenullah Qadri were gunned down in Orangi Town. The deceased were associated with the Sunni Tehreek. A man was stabbed to death in Khairabad area of Orangi Town. The slain was identified as Qari Barkat.

Two bodies were found in Gulbahar area of the city while a body was recovered from Orangi Town 10 area.

Police said that a woman was gunned in Bihar Colony area of Lyari. The body was shifted to the Civil Hospital Karachi for identification and medico-legal formalities.

Nine people were gunned down on Monday in different parts of the metropolis, home to at least 20 million people and commercial hub of the nuclear armed nation.

Cheers

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 May 2014 21:18

Well Geo got banned. Got their license canceled and offices sealed. Meanwhile they removed logos from their vans and their journalists stopped wearing badges. To male things a tad bit difficult for future Qadris. But when did this deter true Ghazis?

Popcorn time.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 20 May 2014 21:28

^
Now what of the standard refrain in Western rags hain ji ?

"Pakistani Media is vibrant and fiercely independent." NOT!!

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 20 May 2014 21:33

Anujan wrote:Well Geo got banned. Got their license canceled and offices sealed. Meanwhile they removed logos from their vans and their journalists stopped wearing badges. To male things a tad bit difficult for future Qadris. But when did this deter true Ghazis?

Popcorn time.

Anujan Ji :

I think it is only the TV Group Geo and not the Newspaper Sector-Group.

Cheers

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 May 2014 21:53

Qadrification of some random low level Abdul is next.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 20 May 2014 23:03

Yogi_G wrote:This is the language Pakistan understands as do the Chinese. Low birth brought about by inbreeding prevents them from understanding benign intentions. Show them the snake can hiss and hiss pretty good like we did in Kargil.

Wasn't it the Chinese who said, "Speak softly, but carry a big stick?" Besides, this isn't a street fight, or even a communal riot. Its international diplomacy. Any macho words that need to be spoken for popular consumption and getting the message across can be done in speeches to the public, which will certainly find its way across the border via social media - NOT during a threesome with your Paki counterpart and an irresponsible Indian news anchor.

If at all, there may be some PR value in talking tough face to face with someone who is bigger than you. Not a smaller neighbour.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 20 May 2014 23:15

Jhujar Ji :

Backdoor diplomacy : Pakistan seeks ‘new beginning’ with BJP-led India

Comments Section :

BKhan : This is excellent backdoor diplomacy by the Pakistani foreign office. To optimize matters, they should let the Indian foreign office machine repeatedly enter and exit, thereby leading to the forceful discharge of warm diplomacy into the Pakistani backdoor.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 20 May 2014 23:21

Agnimitra wrote:
Yogi_G wrote:This is the language Pakistan understands as do the Chinese. Low birth brought about by inbreeding prevents them from understanding benign intentions. Show them the snake can hiss and hiss pretty good like we did in Kargil.
Wasn't it the Chinese who said, "Speak softly, but carry a big stick?" Besides, this isn't a street fight, or even a communal riot. Its international diplomacy. Any macho words that need to be spoken for popular consumption and getting the message across can be done in speeches to the public, which will certainly find its way across the border via social media - NOT during a threesome with your Paki counterpart and an irresponsible Indian news anchor.

If at all, there may be some PR value in talking tough face to face with someone who is bigger than you. Not a smaller neighbour.

Agnimitra Ji :

"Speak Softly, and Carry a Big Stick." : President Theodore Roosevelt

Cheers

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 May 2014 23:35

Peregrine wrote:Jhujar Ji :
Backdoor diplomacy : Pakistan seeks ‘new beginning’ with BJP-led India
Comments Section :BKhan : This is excellent backdoor diplomacy by the Pakistani foreign office. To optimize matters, they should let the Indian foreign office machine repeatedly enter and exit, thereby leading to the forceful discharge of warm diplomacy into the Pakistani backdoor.Cheers

Vishmillah , to the point with sharp in and out Gubogenic remark.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 20 May 2014 23:48

Peregrine ji,

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 21 May 2014 00:18

Interestingly, one thing that Pirzada fellow mentioned on Rahul Kanwal's show was that India should not try to attack Pakhanastan on the pretext of...say...nabbing Dawood.

Dawood Ibrahim relocates on Narendra Modi's appointment day: Report
@minhazmerchant: "In mortal fear", Dawood Ibrahim flees Karachi for Af-Pak border as Modi takes charge

According to a report in DNA, Dawood has relocated himself to an unknown location close to the Af-Pak border, which is under the Taliban, from his earlier known base in Karachi.

The report said the don feared a commando-type operation and is believed to have shifted his base to a remote corner. He has also got the ISI to beef up his security, it added.

The report quoted an intelligence report as saying, "With Modi coming to power, he is mortally afraid."

partha · Post by **partha** » 21 May 2014 02:18

http://www.dawn.com/news/1107531/jui-f- ... s-killings

Just when you thought good taliban bad taliban had become stale, you get "ISI within ISI", first used by Hamid Mir and now being adopted by others

JUI-F blames ‘ISI within ISI’ for kidnappings, killings

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 May 2014 02:53

="parthaust when you thought good taliban bad taliban had become stale, you get "ISI within ISI", first used by Hamid Mir and now being adopted by others :)UI-F blames ‘ISI within ISI’ for kidnappings, killings

Wow,Inbreeding comes Natural to them.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/710880/the- ... from-namo/
The real threat from NaMo

As a Pakistani, my concern is not that Modi will be nasty to India’s Muslims. My concern is that he will continue to dismantle the sclerotic legacy of Nehruvian socialism and in turn vault the Indian economy to an even bigger lead ahead of Pakistan than it has now. I am, of course, happy for the prosperity that my Indian neighbours will enjoy if Modi succeeds. I am just afraid of my own country being left behind. We are not exactly good at dealing with economic resentment.To their credit, the Nawaz leadership has avoided the kind of populist rhetoric that has been all too evident in the media. The prime minister himself appears dedicated to improving ties with India, in particular economic ties.As the two countries move the dialogue forward, it will be important for Pakistani negotiators to focus on our core economic strengths. That means acknowledging that as trade opens up with India, some industries will benefit while others may suffer or even perish. As Modi takes office, Pakistanis should focus on the economic opportunity his inauguration represents, not any potential impact on civil liberties in India it may have. We do not exactly stand on the moral high ground when it comes to the treatment of minorities.

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 21 May 2014 07:50

The problem in dealing with Pakistan is that 200+ million Pakistanis think that India is belligerent and is out to destroy Pakistan whereas 1% Pakistanis i.e. the establishment and RAPEs know that India is helpless in countering their pinpricks. This allows the minority RAPEs easily manipulate the vast population and make themselves important to four fathers. They don't give a damn about aam Pakistanis. This is a double whammy for us and we get hammered from both the sides.

This situation has to change. Majority aam Pakistanis should feel that India is trying to be friendly but is helpless whereas the Pakistani establishment should know that their personal interests will be in danger if they continue with their antics. Being pakis they will not stop but this will increase the cost of actions for their elites in more than one way.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 May 2014 09:45

Aanne Wala Pal Aanne wala Hai
Blast near Rangers headquarters in Karachi; five injured

KARACHI: Five people were injured in an explosion in Karachi on Wednesday, DawnNews reported.Casualties were feared in the blast that took place in the city's North Nazimabad area near the Rangers headquarters.Personnel from law enforcement agencies had surrounded the site of the blast and members of the bomb disposal squad were also dispatched to the location. Karachi, the country's financial capital, is currently undergoing a targeted operation against terrorists, target killers and other criminals elements and mafias active in the city.

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 May 2014 10:59

Bruce Riedel in Hindustan Times:

Islamabad will not give Narendra Modi time for pleasantries

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 21 May 2014 11:13

^Really? Well, think again because Modi has just indicated he will invite Nawaz to his swearing in on May 26th

- along with the leaders of SAARC. Eat that.

That should queer the pitch a bit no? In terms of pleasantries, I mean...

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 21 May 2014 13:55

That matters will not be the same as before is amply borne out by Modi's invite to Badmash to attend the swearing in ceremony. Subtly he has taken control of the Indo Pak narrative. Now Badmash and ISI can throw a fit and pretend loose motions for Badmash et al but it would look very petulant. My guess is that Badmash will not attend the swearing in, in the long tradition of tactical brilliance that Pak is famous for.
On a side note it tickles the jingo heart to note that all the samants of the various provinces of Jambudwipa are being summoned for the grand coronotion of a chakravarthin raja.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 21 May 2014 14:07

JE Menon wrote:^Really? Well, think again because Modi has just indicated he will invite Nawaz to his swearing in on May 26th - along with the leaders of SAARC. Eat that.

That should queer the pitch a bit no? In terms of pleasantries, I mean...

Nawaz Badmaash should use this short trip to meet with the hurry-yet sunni freedom fighters from the cash-mere valley lest they too get swayed by the Modi-wave. You know, give them assurances of continued diplomatic and moral support. Hand over a bag or two. Invite them over for tea and samosas at the baki high commission. Many of them are probably ensconced in New Delhi hospitals getting free treatments anyway.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 21 May 2014 14:17

ShankarCag wrote:That matters will not be the same as before is amply borne out by Modi's invite to Badmash to attend the swearing in ceremony. Subtly he has taken control of the Indo Pak narrative. Now Badmash and ISI can throw a fit and pretend loose motions for Badmash et al but it would look very petulant. My guess is that Badmash will not attend the swearing in, in the long tradition of tactical brilliance that Pak is famous for.
On a side note it tickles the jingo heart to note that all the samants of the various provinces of Jambudwipa are being summoned for the grand coronotion of a chakravarthin raja.

ShankarCag Ji :

Badmash will not only attend the Freebee Invite but will take the opportunity to meet up with the hurry-yet sunni freedom fighters from the cash-mere valley.

I am sure that on his return to the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists there will be a "Cross Border Flare Up" as the Deep State will remind India that "Nothing Changes" in the Relationship with India.

Cheers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 21 May 2014 14:17

In bakistan today, Rs720m special funds ~~withdrawn~~ go missing from education department

The irony is that the missing funds were allocated for...

provision of missing facilities

God is just and merciful.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 21 May 2014 14:53

Advance Booking for Juma :

32 killed as Pakistan warplanes pound militant hideouts in NWA

PESHAWAR: Pakistan Air Force warplanes bombarded militant hideouts in country’s northwestern tribal, killing 32 militants including foreign fighters.

Sources said that the PAF jets pounded the suspected hideouts in Mir Ali and other areas of North Waziristan tribal region.

They said that some foreigners were also killed in the air strikes. Pakistan has engaged The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), an umbrella of more than 30 militant organizations, in talks in a bid to put an end to home grown insurgency.

However, there has been little progress in peace process as the TTP saw raging infighting in South Waziristan between two groups of the militant organization headed by Khan Said Sajna and Sheryar Mehsud.
Cheers

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 May 2014 15:10

Peregrine wrote:32 killed as Pakistan warplanes pound militant hideouts in NWA

Do those Yindoo evil kafirs understand how important F-16s are in flattening mud houses?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 May 2014 15:16

ShankarCag wrote:My guess is that Badmash will not attend the swearing in . . .

I guess that Badmash will attend the swearing-in and demand a return visit by Modi asap. He might even demand that Modi's first foreign trip should be to Pakistan as that will send an enormous signal that India was keen on friendlier relations and turn the tide towards India so that he could easily push through the MFN status (or 'non-discriminatory trade access' or whatever). He would brilliantly think that Modi, being trade and economy oriented, MFN would be a nice carrot to dangle. I am sure that the usual WKKs would also push for the same as if on cue! Very interesting times.

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 21 May 2014 15:49

TSP will play their usual games. Badmash will want to meet Hurryrats and make it a precondition to accept the invite. This will make things complicated.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 21 May 2014 15:56

ShankarCag wrote:My guess is that Badmash will not attend the swearing in . . .

SSridhar wrote:I guess that Badmash will attend the swearing-in and demand a return visit by Modi asap. He might even demand that Modi's first foreign trip should be to Pakistan as that will send an enormous signal that India was keen on friendlier relations and turn the tide towards India so that he could easily push through the MFN status (or 'non-discriminatory trade access' or whatever). He would brilliantly think that Modi, being trade and economy oriented, MFN would be a nice carrot to dangle. I am sure that the usual WKKs would also push for the same as if on cue! Very interesting times.

SSridhar Ji :

MFN status (or 'non-discriminatory trade access' or whatever) will never be granted as just like Free Trade with China destroyed Scores and more of Pakistani Industries similarly whatever is left of the Pakistani Industries will be destroyed by Freer Indian Imports.

As such it is imperative that Modi not visit Pakistan until 1. Pakistan brings the perpetrators of 26/11 to Justice - and wishful thinking - hands them over to India. 2. Make the LOC "The Border" between the two countries 3. Accepts India's position on Kashmir, Siachin and Sir Creek. (I agree that these are the hardest demands, but with Pakistani Leaders' reputation in General and Badmaash's reputation in Particular one has to start with the Full Volley) Everything ha to be agreed in a written protocal as one must not forget Zulfie going back on his word to Indira Gandhi during the negotiations for the release of the 90,000 "Grass eatingstanis".

Modi should learn from President Theodore Roosevelt's Speak Softly, and Carry a Big Stick as his Foreign Policy in its entirety with the Land of the Pure and the Home of the Terrorists.

Cheers

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 May 2014 18:04

Two States in a Nation - Meena Menon, The Hindu

The above is written by the just expelled Indian correspondent of The Hindu in Islamabad. She writes about her numerous wonderful friends and people on the street who are curious about India etc and also about the constant surveillance by the 'Angels'. That sets a whole crowd of Indian peaceniks to comment on how their hitherto different opinion of STFUP has suddenly changed etc. One is sick to the pits of the stomach hearing such naivety. Then, there is a bunch of Pakistanis who take advantage of the article and naivety. There is even a retired Pakistani defence official (does not want to reveal his position) who claims (rightly) that hostility will never disappear but we can at least reduce it ! He suggests that denial of visas to Pakistani sportsmen increases their tension as if this is the root cause of the problems. Most educated Indians have a long way to go to really know about Pakistan, leave alone 'understand' it. They join together for some time after a terrible terrorist attack and then forget everything. One is really scared of this vast number of people who think nothing of the extreme designs let loose upon us by STFU-TSP.

To be fair to Ms. Menon, she concludes that 'The Establishment' will never change.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 21 May 2014 19:37

Peregrine wrote: SSridhar Ji :

MFN status (or 'non-discriminatory trade access' or whatever) will never be granted as just like Free Trade with China destroyed Scores and more of Pakistani Industries similarly whatever is left of the Pakistani Industries will be destroyed by Freer Indian Imports.

As such it is imperative that Modi not visit Pakistan until 1. Pakistan brings the perpetrators of 26/11 to Justice - and wishful thinking - hands them over to India. 2. Make the LOC "The Border" between the two countries 3. Accepts India's position on Kashmir, Siachin and Sir Creek. (I agree that these are the hardest demands, but with Pakistani Leaders' reputation in General and Badmaash's reputation in Particular one has to start with the Full Volley) Everything ha to be agreed in a written protocal as one must not forget Zulfie going back on his word to Indira Gandhi during the negotiations for the release of the 90,000 "Grass eatingstanis".

Modi should learn from President Theodore Roosevelt's Speak Softly, and Carry a Big Stick as his Foreign Policy in its entirety with the Land of the Pure and the Home of the Terrorists.

Cheers

I don't understand the fixation that some of us of have of our prime minister visiting Pakistan if so and so happens. It is a defeatist attitude. CBMs in my opinion are just Chut^^@ Banaoing Measures. Honestly, I don't care if they are or are not going to act on any of the listed CBMs. Ignore them while at the same time generously and assiduously apply jhapads...sometimes without reason. And when they whine and cry on our application of Jhapads for no reason, lets widen our eyes and point our index finger at them and quote that great Indic philospher called Rushil Peters: "Just in Case"
Let us rise above the muck - that they are trying to drag us in time and again - while religiously standing on their tiny twosomes. Any temptation of visiting that s**t hole should be strongly repulsed. The are the dregs of society... Give no quarter..

-M

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 May 2014 21:22

X Posted from the Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism thread.

PTI Reports that testimony given at a US Congressional hearing implicates the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s in indulging in Mohammadden Terrorism targeting India and others:

Pak supports terrorist groups: Former US official

PTI
Washington, May 21, 2014

Washington: Pakistan supports groups that carry out terrorists activities, a former US counter-terrorism official has said, citing the close linkage it has with outfits like LeT that carried out the Mumbai terror attacks.

"Pakistan is unique because of the various groups that are there that have been supported by the Pakistani state, groups like the Lashkar-e-Taiba that have attacked in India, directed by Pakistani intelligence, murdering people in a hotel in Mumbai," Michael Sheehan, who was Coordinator for Counter-terrorism with the rank and status of Ambassador-at-Large from 1998 to 2000 at the US State Department, told lawmakers during a Congressional hearing on Monday.

"This is a unique situation where a state is actually involved in these organisations that are part of this stew I talked about earlier that directly threaten us," said Sheehan, who is currently Distinguished Chair, Combating Terrorism Center, US Military Academy at West Point.

Responding to a question from Congressman Scott Perry on direct links between members of the Pakistani government and the terrorist organisations, Sheehan said there is likely because of the decades old links between them.

"It's possible, especially the organizations that they might arm to attack in Kashmir or in India. Those same type of weapon systems can then be turned against us. But I don't believe the Pakistani army, the Pakistani government would count on such an activity. It would come from below perhaps from a rogue. I don't see any evidence of that happening right now. It's something we have to keep an eye on," Sheehan said.

Thomas Joscelyn, senior fellow, Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told lawmakers that these terrorist organizations are a wing of the ISI. He alleged that there is direct relationship between parts of the military intelligence establishment in Pakistan and al-Qaeda.

"I think those relationships do exist. I think the best way to fact-check that and get into what the actual relationship is and how that works is probably to have a more complete discussion about bin Laden's documents, the extensive files that were found in his compound and what they say," he said.

"(Terrorist groups allied with al-Qaeda) are sponsored by the ISI, that are creatures of the ISI establishment, are also allied with al-Qaeda. And that's part of how al-Qaeda gets the strategic depth. I lay it all out in great detail how that works, from the Afghan Taliban to Lashkar-e-Taiba," he said.

David Sedney, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia, also alleged the ISI activities in this regard.

He said noted journalist Hamid Mir was the subject of an assassination attempt. Mir, before the assassination attempt, had communicated to his family that if such an assassination attempt took place, it was ISI that was trying to kill him.

"That's the kind of complicated geography of politics and terrorism that the Pakistanis live under.?And this is a country that has some serious structural problems, that, until they are solved, which won't be for years, the al-Qaeda threat is going to remain," he told the lawmakers.

I suspect that the comments are from the hearing of the US Congress Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade titled “Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan: An Enduring Threat” held on May 20th.

Check out full text of witness statements at the below link. The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s links to Mohammadden Terrorism get multiple mentions:

Subcommittee Hearing: Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan: An Enduring Threat

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 May 2014 21:53

'Excellent move' by Narendra Modi to invite Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to swearing in: Omar Abdullah

Cannot say I agree. An unwise move.

“No show” of a SAARC leader will be spun as message to India of foreign discomfort for electing Modi and “no show” even in the absence of malice is likely given the short notice. Meanwhile this will be interpreted by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as weakness especially given events on the LoC. This is a time for Pit Bulls not Labrador Retrivers with a “sensitive” side as witnessed yesterday at Parliament’s Central Hall. Let me hope this is a one time aberration and that the Nation is not saddled with a 56 inch chested metrosexual:

Pakistan again violates ceasefire along LoC in Poonch

Harish · Post by **Harish** » 21 May 2014 22:35

arun wrote:'Excellent move' by Narendra Modi to invite Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to swearing in: Omar Abdullah

Cannot say I agree. An unwise move.

“No show” of a SAARC leader will be spun as message to India of foreign discomfort for electing Modi and “no show” even in the absence of malice is likely given the short notice. Meanwhile this will be interpreted by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as weakness especially given events on the LoC. This is a time for Pit Bulls not Labrador Retrivers with a “sensitive” side as witnessed yesterday at Parliament’s Central Hall. Let me hope this is a one time aberration and that the Nation is not saddled with a 56 inch chested metrosexual:

Pakistan again violates ceasefire along LoC in Poonch

It is far too early to say one way or the other, but I am apprehensive that NaMo's relentless drumbeat of economic progress will get in the way of an assertive foreign policy especially on Pakistan.

NaMo is the darling of the business community; I am sure they can exert significant pressure on him to not get into war(ish) mode.

Also, when you are overwhelmingly focused on the economy, your ability and willingness to take terror hits increases, so as to not rock the boat.

Not that NaMo has it all wrong - the economy comes first NO QUESTION - but there is a fine line to tread, and a delicate balance to be achieved between security and progress. I certainly hope NaMo will find it.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 21 May 2014 22:44

^^ but knowing Pakistan, I am sure the 'strategic' thinkers there will, in their infinite wisdom, provide ample opportunities and force NM's hand so that he can provide them with swift and stinging jhapads. No worries, I have full faith in Pakistan

-M

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 22 May 2014 02:36

Ayesha Ki tammna Hai Ki Dulha use Mill jayye
Modi’s burdensome hat

Does one envy Narendra Modi’s position as India’s 17th prime minister? Perhaps not, since more than any other premier he has the burden of proof on his shoulders for turning India’s economy around, bringing down the temperature of communal politics in his country, and ensuring that his domestic and foreign policy doesn’t create a fire across the region.From an economic standpoint, the state of Gujarat is considered as a poster for Modi’s performance. A number of people, including the business community in Pakistan, look at Modi as the man who may be able to do economic miracles for the rest of India and even take some hard decisions for improving bilateral trade between the two countries. Considering what many in India say about the need for accountability on how Gujarat was turned around or special concessions given to the corporate sector, it is a tough challenge for the new prime minister to prove his worth. This would include creating a fine balance between the rich and greedy corporate sector and the upcoming middle class to making it work for the millions of have-nots that India has in abundance.Issues become even more complicated with the need to strike a balance between Hindutva politics and making space for India’s minority groups. Given India’s multi-communal base, no government can afford to light a communal fire. Even if we were to imagine that Narendra Modi was innocent of the 2002 Gujarat carnage, he doesn’t have the natural advantage of a good image that the Congress party had, often unfairly. History haunts both negatively and positively. Although the post-Nehru Congress is responsible for a lot of communal mess, it managed to survive for a long time on its liberal image. The BJP under Modi does not enjoy such a persona. Despite its efforts to bring members of the Muslim elite on board, the bulk of Muslims and other minorities would be wary of a hawkish Hindu support base of the party and what it might mean for the minorities.

I recently had a chance to meet scion of an old Muslim Nawab family studying in an elite British university. With his eyes on the Congress party to provide him political space in future, his main argument was how Indian Muslims had become integrated with the idea of India. My concern was that, in fact, over years the integrated Muslim at the lower end had become less integrated. This Muslim may not want another Pakistan, since the latter does not appear to be in a shape to even protect itself, but is keener to create internal violent patronages to contest the state. I was also reminded of images of Indian Muslim visitors to Pakistan during the 1980s and the 1990s, who were quite comfortable with their image of India, than a number of Muslims that you come across today in India.What is even sadder and almost at the scale of a tragedy is that this large community and its relations with its own government and state have become much more tightly linked with Delhi’s bilateral relations with Rawalpindi via Islamabad. Even if we argue that India’s Muslims shouldn’t be Pakistan’s concern, there is always the fear of Modi sarkar viewing these Muslims as Islamabad’s agents. The state’s military, intelligence and law-enforcement bureaucracy may also get tempted to point fingers.Caught in the middle of such politics is an even more tragic character of Pakistan’s Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif, who has lost the opportunity to develop trade ties with India. He cannot even extend the visa of two Indian journalists, who as per an older unwritten arrangement, could stay and work in Islamabad for almost three years. Some of the GHQ’s journalist friends were quick to equate the non-extension of these visas with India denying visas to some Pakistanis, totally forgetting that this situation is entirely different. These journalists should not have been punished for Islamabad or Rawalpindi’s inefficiency in not sending Pakistani journalists to Delhi. Closing down these journalist positions in each other’s states will deprive both of understanding and talking to each other’s societies. Iron curtains have never brought peace or stability.
A critical fact worth comprehending is that both India and Pakistan are at a tricky stage of sociopolitical redefinition. While India prepares towards a more singular communal identity, Pakistan has turned into a hybrid-theocracy where various kinds of zealots have begun to define social, political and eventually foreign policy norms. A clash between the two is imminent. There are elements in Pakistan who have little problem turning the state North Korea-like as long as it can successfully challenge Modi’s dream of a new India. The intriguing part of this formula is that even such forces may piggyback on Modi’s image of a right-wing zealot. In case of a limited war or some kind of regional conflict, the responsibility would equally fall on the new Indian prime minister’s shoulders, mainly due to his reputation. Surely, the world will deal with him and even issue him visas, however, the international community may be equally curious to see if he proves them right in their discomfort about him as someone accused of involvement with violence within his own state.There is a part of the Pakistani state keen to take the region forward and another that does not want to engage at all because its heart and mind tells it not to. This is a Pakistan that reads itself like a forever happening tragedy for which it holds the world outside responsible. This particular set of strategists is already feeling uncomfortable with Abdullah Abdullah in the north and Modi in the east. Some of the state’s precious ‘strategic assets’ have started with their propaganda against both.Any increase in tension and violence will prove distracting to the new Indian leadership if it does not have its calculations right on how to deal with such an eventuality. Not that the new Indian prime minister would like the advise but he has far less space than his predecessor to prove that he is the right man for the right job.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 22 May 2014 02:44

Bimar Sharif, Please grant me leave of absence on 26th> I have severe case of...

CCI meeting cancelled due to PM’s ill health

ISLAMABAD- Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has called the meeting of the Council of Common Interest (CCI) on May 26, 2014.According to journalists, PM first gave date of May 22, 2014 but due to some unavoidable reasons and PM Nawaz Sharif not in best of health has postponed the CCI meeting scheduled to be held today. The new date given by the PM is May 26 in this regard.The CCI, a body with representation from all federating units, will discuss the issue of Census and other important issues, sources said.The Chief Ministers of Pakistan's four provinces and other concerned officials will attend the meeting.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 22 May 2014 04:26

1. Pakistan jets kill 60 militants in tribal region

ISLAMABAD: At least 60 militants were killed today in precision bombing by air force jets on Taliban targets in Pakistan's restive tribal region on the Afghan border, military officials said.

2. Army major among five soldiers killed in fresh NW clashes

MIRANSHAH: After the military had killed nearly sixty fighters in North Waziristan on Wednesday, fresh clashes in the afternoon left at least five security personnel dead and injured seven others.

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