Why are we participating in a retreat ceremony?The Pakistani Rangers had requested the BSF on Sunday night that they were not in a position to hold the retreat ceremony for three days and the BSF had agreed to it after a formal announcement. Thousands of Indian tourists were stopped three kilometres away from the border due to this reason.
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RT@httweets:A day after blast, Pakistan holds high-voltage Beating Retreat ceremony http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 82134.aspx
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Err.. Will the DNA testing prove his lineage from Arabs/ Turks/ Persians/ Central Asia? In Pakistan, isn't it more important to find the clinching piece of evidence - the penis of the bomber? Why bother with arms, legs and DNA testing?IGP Sukhera said that the arms and legs of the bomber have been found and subsequently sent to a forensic lab for a DNA test.
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Well,Ashok Sarraff wrote: But, in my opinion, bifurcating Islam into (1) political but anti-Indian and (2) fundamentalist but nationalist as suggested by Shri Doval-ji does not go far enough. This is similar to Pak's theoretical division of Taliban into "Good" Taliban and "Bad" Taliban....
a. not quite - Taliban are violent; nationalist Islam would not be (or rather, Islam that was violent would not be accepted as nationalist).
b. I do share your concerns - is this a deal with the devil? But I think that was the point of Doval bringing up Ibn Taymiyyah and his Mardin fatwa - it was not accepted in his time, etc., that political Islam does not morph readily, like everything else, it is as stable as the political interests involved.
c. I think one of Doval's unstated injunctions for a strategic thinker is "don't indulge in wishful thinking". Government of India cannot be overtly or covertly anti-Islam. It can only be against specific groups - LeT, Pakistan, Taliban, ....
d. Of course, what is the time range within which a strategy is supposed to operate is an open question; and secondly, how would one set up the organizations to operate a strategy that outlives people's careers and even their life-spans is another question. Suppose we on BRF accept that there needs to be a certain civilizational goal. How do we make this happen? No wishful thinking please. Might be a topic for one of the other threads.
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The jacket of the second backpaki
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Ah! The Pakistanis are known for their swift action in clearing crime scenes. After all they have very high pressure water hoses. Kudos to their investigation team. I am eagerly waiting for the investigation report to be released shortly!Since we have cleared off the blast site after collecting the forensic evidence, there was no point in closing the Parade Avenue for the public
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As Omar Abdullah said, he is proud to be a Muslim, Kashmiri and Indian. He left out to say "in that order".A_Gupta wrote:a. not quite - Taliban are violent; nationalist Islam would not be (or rather, Islam that was violent would not be accepted as nationalist).
Islam does not prohibit "nationalism" as long as that identity is subservient to the Muslim identity and thus Ummah interests.
Creation of Bangladesh, which is often cited, was not a case of triumph of nationalism over religion. As long as East Bengal had been secured for Ummah, it just did not matter to Islam, that East Pakistanis chose a separate nationalism than West Pakistanis.
What Ajit Doval is perhaps wishing for is "nationalist Muslims", those who are nationalist because they entertain nationalism outside of Islam. This can indeed be possible, but only as long as the Islamization of the Muslim is not complete, for then he belongs to Nation of Islam only.
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Mullah Azad was n(o)tionalistic Muslim and he stayed back to secure islamic weed seeds on Indian soil after MAJ gave India opportunity to clean the front yard . I think its right time now to ask Paki to take their Muslim brothers and sisters back as per partition plan. Every time Paki mention something Muslim or Islam, Indians interlocutors must raise this particular issue.RajeshA wrote:A_Gupta wrote:.
What Ajit Doval is perhaps wishing for is "nationalist Muslims", those who are nationalist because they entertain nationalism outside of Islam. This can indeed be possible, but only as long as the Islamization of the Muslim is not complete, for then he belongs to Nation of Islam only.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
^I have tried to do that in my wanderings. The standard answer is, the whole earth belongs to Allah and hence India also belongs to Islam and its followers, so why should they leave. It is us Indians that have encroached upon their rightful territory/resources, according to the Allah-centric view.
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RCase wrote:Err.. Will the DNA testing prove his lineage from Arabs/ Turks/ Persians/ Central Asia? In Pakistan, isn't it more important to find the clinching piece of evidence - the penis of the bomber? Why bother with arms, legs and DNA testing?IGP Sukhera said that the arms and legs of the bomber have been found and subsequently sent to a forensic lab for a DNA test.
Well they are an advanced country and call out for DNA tests etc.
Most likely the DNA test will reveal their reptilian origins.
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the police suspected that the suicide vest could have been transported to the area in a truck bound for the NLC yard. The bomber might have reached the area unsuspected, collected the vest and struck, sources said. However, the police said they are also investigating other possible angles.
1. The bomb after not been able to cross (via truck) was exploded deliberately on the Baki side by Baluchs, etc. (most of the Baluchs and Pathans are involved with trucking business or are truck drivers on Baki side)
or
2. It is a dry run gone bad for a future attack on Indians.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
^^^^ Baloch's attacking India? They already have enough enemies in Iran and Bakistan, why would they want to Antagonize India.
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Will wimmens wearing black burqas be treated as Shia?
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Then why did so many Muslims move from India to Pakhanaland in 47?Ashok Sarraff wrote:^I have tried to do that in my wanderings. The standard answer is, the whole earth belongs to Allah and hence India also belongs to Islam and its followers, so why should they leave. It is us Indians that have encroached upon their rightful territory/resources, according to the Allah-centric view.
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I am sure Doval knows his Chankiya, who used the less-paki Parvataka as an ally, and when victory was won, sent him to his 72 by means of one virgin mohatarma custom-designed to be poisonous.Ashok Sarraff wrote:A_Gupta ji, Thank you for posting this most interesting lecture. Goes without saying, Shri Ajit Doval deserves all the respect for his knowledge and his numerous services to the country.A_Gupta wrote:Ajit Doval, this section should be listened to for about 10-12 minutes.
http://youtu.be/DuSNC7qZwi0?t=42m30s
His take on how the British perceived various Muslim strategic threats, and their strategic response is very interesting.
The British had the first jihadis fight against Ranjit Singh and get routed. The British answered the highly nationalist Deoband madrassa with Sir Sayyid Ahmed and the Aligarh Muslim University. (He says it is the product of the Aligarh Muslim University that created Pakistan.) He says strengthen nationalist political Islam that is under siege from the Wahhabs and such. "We have to counter the political Islam of the jihadis with the political Islam of the nationalists".
But, in my opinion, bifurcating Islam into (1) political but anti-Indian and (2) fundamentalist but nationalist as suggested by Shri Doval-ji does not go far enough. This is similar to Pak's theoretical division of Taliban into "Good" Taliban and "Bad" Taliban. As seen in Pakistan, the two can easily merge into each other or transform from one to the other at a moment's notice. For what ostensible reason? For propagating Islam and Islamic rule. The ultimate objective for both "political" and "nationalist," Islam as Shri Doval-ji calls them, is the complete imposition of Islam in the Indian sub-continent and annihilation of any remnants of native Indian traditions. This of course is guided by Islamic teachings, that are the ultimate source of inspiration for all Muslims all over the world. Thus, irrespective of whether SIMI is a "Bad" Islamic organization or Deobandis (the name shows what they believe in) are "Good" Islamics according to Shri Doval-ji, both are ultimately antithetical to Indian culture and values. Thus, in my view, the fundamental question that no one is considering (at least in public) is how to eradicate the Malsi software from the subcontinental people's minds. Till the time the software exits in one form or the other, terrorism will remain entrenched and Indian subcontinental people will continue to suffer. All IMHO.
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Ajit Doval has all the qualities and capabilities to surpass Allen Dulles (longest serving CIA director)., I wish he can be in charge of National Security for a long time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles
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NOPE!! Baluchistan has Baluchs and then it has Pashtuns. I am talking about the Pashtuns from Balouch who have history of attacking non-muslim Indians.^^^^ Baloch's attacking India? They already have enough enemies in Iran and Bakistan, why would they want to Antagonize India.
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Beating Retreat is a military ceremony dating back to 16th century England and was first used to recall nearby patrolling units to their castle.
by Ramu Why are we participating in a retreat ceremony?
Originally it was known as watch setting and was initiated at sunset by the firing of a single round from the evening gun.
An order from the army of James II (England), otherwise James VII of Scotland dated to 18 June 1690 had his drums beating an order for his troops to retreat and a later order, from William III in 1694 read "The Drum Major and Drummers of the Regiment which gives a Captain of the Main Guard are to beat the Retreat through the large street, or as may be ordered. They are to be answered by all the Drummers of the guards, and by four Drummers of each Regiment in their respective Quarters". However, either or both orders may refer to the ceremonial tattoo.
The Wagah border closing 'lowering of the flags' ceremony or The Beating Retreat ceremony is a daily military practice that the security forces of India (Border Security Force) and Pakistan (Pakistan Rangers) have jointly followed since 1959.[5]
The ceremony has been filmed and broadcast by Michael Palin for one of his television around-the-world travel programs; he described it as a display of "carefully choreographed contempt. "[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_Retreat
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Actually the ceremony is done two times in a day.
1. When flags are put up around 9:00 AM.
2. When flags are lowered around 5:00 PM
Border is open from 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM everyday for
1. All travelers of India and nPakistan citizenship.
2. All travelers that are the Visas of India and nPakistan.
So!! BSF and Rangers show their "Contempt" for each other by having this "aggressive" parade., along with paying the respect to their respective flags with all the music, bugles and parade.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Looks like Pakis in their impotent rage had an IED Mubarak in Budgam, Kashmir. Details awaited.
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I don't understand TOI pasting Modi's picture in the news report about the Wagah blast. Are they nuts or what?
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So how much time before they find a cauterized uncircumcised penis hanging from a tree limb so that RAW can be blamed ?ramana wrote:IGP Sukhera said that the arms and legs of the bomber have been found and subsequently sent to a forensic lab for a DNA test.
Err.. Will the DNA testing prove his lineage from Arabs/ Turks/ Persians/ Central Asia? In Pakistan, isn't it more important to find the clinching piece of evidence - the penis of the bomber? Why bother with arms, legs and DNA testing?
Well they are an advanced country and call out for DNA tests etc.
Most likely the DNA test will reveal their reptilian origins.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Fresh explosives defused near Wagah bomb site
http://www.dawn.com/news/1142188/fresh- ... -bomb-site
http://www.dawn.com/news/1142188/fresh- ... -bomb-site
LAHORE: Security personnel conducted a search operation in the areas adjoining the Wagah border crossing near Lahore and recovered a large quantity of explosives and suicide vests which were defused, Rangers sources told Dawn.A bomb disposal squad official told Dawn that the suicide vest was stuffed with eight kilograms of explosives and ball bearings and added that had the vest detonated it would have caused immense damage.A search operation was conducted in the populated areas located near the Wagah border after intelligence agencies received information regarding the presence of a 'suspicious person' in the area.India and Pakistan have suspended a daily military ritual on their main land border crossing after a suicide attack that killed dozens of people, the first time the colourful parade has been called off since the two countries went to war in 1971.India's home ministry said India's Border Security Force agreed to a Pakistani request to suspend the flag-lowering ceremony to allow mourning.At least 60 people were killed and more than 100 wounded on Sunday by the explosion that ripped through a carpark about 500 metres from Pakistan's border gate just as hundreds of people left the popular daily performance.
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http://nation.com.pk/national/03-Nov-20 ... -bsf-chief
New Delhi- Indian Border Security Force (BSF) chief DK Pathak says they had received some inputs a fortnight ago that terror groups may try to carry out a possible strike during the beating retreat ceremony, hosted by border guarding forces of both nations. An Indian home ministry
official too said there were alarms about a possible strike."India's external intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing, had got intelligence inputs some 15 days back indicating that the flag-lowering might be targeted by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan," the Indian home ministry official said on condition of anonymity, an Indian agency said.Pathak said there would be no beating retreat ceremony at Wagah border for three days from Monday at the request of Pakistan. The BSF chief added his officers in Punjab had already undertaken "coordination" meetings with all intelligence, security and state government authorities in the light of the inputs they had received. Meanwhile, a militant group close to Pakistani Taliban, claimed responsibility for the deadliest attack to hit Pakistan in a year, saying it was a response to the Pakistani army's actions against their positions in tribal areas.An 18-year-old bomber tried to enter the security perimeter of the border area complex but was checked by the Rangers and detonated the explosives strapped on his body, Punjab poilce IG Sukhera said. He was carrying 20 to 25 kg of explosives. "I was sitting in my office near the border when I heard the blast. I rushed to the scene and saw scattered bodies, injured men, women and children and smashed cars," a Pakistani intelligence source said. Security officials expressed fear that the teenager might have been trying to detonate himself further inside the complex that could have caused damage on the Indian side as well.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Isn't defusing a bum haraam? afterall it is meant to be a vehicle to unite the Mujahid with Allah, What does the Ulema have to say about this? I would imagine it is blasphemous . Wonder what the Supreme court of Al Bakistan would have to say about this?
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Such shocking ignerantj! Don't u know that the mijjile goes directly to Houristan to be admired by the 72-in-waiting? How do we ejjikate these kuffar on the fundamentals, hai! hai!In Pakistan, isn't it more important to find the clinching piece of evidence - the **mijjile** of the bomber?
Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Tamang Ji :Tamang wrote:Karan Pappad on his show right now: It time for India to accept that Pakistan is a victim of its own Self Created, Patented and Pakigenous terror.
Jyoti Malhotra, Sushant Sarin and Ajay Sahni participants
There - corrected!
Cheers
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
This is why , with active help of 3.5 boyfriends with benefits, Paki need to keep P..s prints data base like finger prints and other biometric signs etc. This is where Paki neighbors will help gathering data of each other and help fight terrorism.
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Can't help wondering if PeeEssEff at Wagah doesn't read the BENIS dhaga
Vacuum implosion by another name.
BTW, look at the picture of that crowd of grinning Darwin Award Contestants out there to watch a "ceremony" when Indian citizens in the border villages, and the soldiers themselves, are daily being targeted by the enemy. Can u blame a soosai bummer for being unable to resist the temptation, hain?
Who the pakistan thought up this "Peating the Letleat" nonsense I wonder. Time to scrap it. THEY can retreat. Every day by another 10 miles. Helped by sounds and smoke and steel and high explosive.
Vacuum implosion by another name.
BTW, look at the picture of that crowd of grinning Darwin Award Contestants out there to watch a "ceremony" when Indian citizens in the border villages, and the soldiers themselves, are daily being targeted by the enemy. Can u blame a soosai bummer for being unable to resist the temptation, hain?
Who the pakistan thought up this "Peating the Letleat" nonsense I wonder. Time to scrap it. THEY can retreat. Every day by another 10 miles. Helped by sounds and smoke and steel and high explosive.
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Ulanullah al Batori,UlanBatori wrote:Such shocking ignerantj! Don't u know that the mijjile goes directly to Houristan to be admired by the 72-in-waiting? How do we ejjikate these kuffar on the fundamentals, hai! hai!In Pakistan, isn't it more important to find the clinching piece of evidence - the **mijjile** of the bomber?
If the penis was uncircumcised, then it we know that RAA had a firm hand on it. If it was an exposed, cut mijjile, then it would belong to a muslim... and muslims do not kill other muslims.
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India-Pakistan vision of peace
Qazi Pyazi
UlluBaata Karre Tamasha: pakistan is not Normal Country and Paki not Normal People
Qazi Pyazi
UlluBaata Karre Tamasha: pakistan is not Normal Country and Paki not Normal People
akistan’s nuclear deterrence does not provide an equaliser vis-à-vis India except in extremis. This allows India to gain from limited conflicts and confrontations such as have recently occurred. India’s superior conventional military strength and international image enable it to raise the ante in such situations without incurring significant diplomatic costs. Pakistan does not have this liberty. Modi wishes to convert this advantage into a Kashmir settlement on his terms. If Pakistan’s decision-making can become more democratic, responsible and transparent this will not happen.Nawaz Sharif is being advised not to take any initiative to meet Modi or explore possibilities for the resumption of an agenda-based dialogue. He has been badly bruised by recent political developments and feels vulnerable to charges of weakness vis-à-vis India. He appears so risk-averse he will not even pursue his own preferred policies. This reduces his credibility at home and abroad. Accordingly, the advice given him is wrong. It neither enhances Pakistan’s diplomatic nor military options. Instead, it compromises Pakistan’s development prospects which would certainly diminish in an environment of active hostility with India.Former foreign secretary, Riaz Mohammad Khan, has written “None of the disputes and problems that bedevil relations between the two countries are ideological or inherently intractable; they are essentially political and, thereby, resolvable”. Accordingly, the only conditions for movement are political will and reciprocity. But reciprocity should not rule out initiatives, especially in critical times. Nevertheless, they do need to be reciprocated in order to sustain the necessary political will for movement on ‘intractable’ issues.The adverse environmental impact of the Siachen stalemate through an accelerated melting of the glacier on millions of people in both countries and the implications of water disputes, water scarcity and possible crop failures are potentially greater threats to peace than the unresolved Kashmir dispute. Both countries have a huge stake in more rationally handling these issues.There is, of course, no reason to bow to Indian intimidation and intransigence or abandon principled and legitimate positions as a condition for structured dialogue. But there is very much an argument for adopting longer perspectives. Indian provocations, short of crossing red lines, should not be allowed to derail strategies for a more predictable and sustainable relationship with a difficult and larger neighbour.
Pakistan will need to eschew its own provocations. Its denials and counter-arguments carry little international credibility because of its international isolation. This has to change if it is to garner greater international understanding for its policy positions.Ultimately, these strategies will not work if India refuses to accord priority to improving relations with Pakistan and seeking negotiated and mutually acceptable solutions to issues that can further ‘bedevil’ the relationship. Modi does not appear to be a likely partner in such an endeavour. Hopefully, this is not a given. Many in Pakistan compare him unfavourably with Vajpayee forgetting that Vajpayee finally accused Pakistan of ‘stabbing him in the back’ in Kargil shortly after Lahore.Moreover, this happened on Nawaz Sharif’s watch. The mutual perception barrier is real. It has to be overcome. Both prime ministers will need to demonstrate they are up to the task of normalisation and reconciliation. Accordingly, Pakistan should not forego any opportunity to make a beginning.The Shimla Agreement envisages the establishment of durable peace “without prejudice to the recognised position of either side”. This ‘recognises’ Pakistan’s position regarding the relevance of UN resolutions, which in any case cannot be superseded by a bilateral agreement. On this basis, ensuring uninterrupted and productive dialogue is a joint leadership obligation and responsibility. A better international image of Pakistan’s policies will help in dealing with any Indian intransigence in this regard. Far-sighted leadership based on commonsense, imagination and commitment can overcome adverse ‘initial conditions’ and ‘intractable’ differences. This attitude should inform public opinion in both countries. Accordingly, the media of both countries should refrain from promoting zero-sum attitudes.Within these parameters a whole range of agreed, interrupted and postponed measures need to be consistently implemented. Line of Control/Working Boundary flare-ups can and should be avoided. Political leadership and military command structures must ensure this. Personal understanding and trust, based on frequent contact, needs to develop between the prime ministers. Preparations for an exchange of visits should be priority. These should help restore the LoC ceasefire and change the history of sterile exchanges on unresolved issues. The two countries should cease to categorise each other as an ‘enemy’.The back-channel talks in 2004-06 produced a document for an interim solution. The contents remain controversial. But as Riaz Mohammad Khan rightly observes, if there is to be a Kashmir settlement acceptable to all the parties, including the Kashmiris, it will need to include elements that were addressed in the back channel. They should be revisited, possibly in a more open format, provided both prime ministers and credible representatives of Kashmiri opinion publicly commit themselves to the process.A bilaterally negotiated final settlement would require an agreed modality for Kashmiri participation and approval. If and when achieved, the settlement could be embodied in a unanimously adopted UN Security Council resolution superseding existing resolutions.
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what was the final destination of that bomb...
this one says
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 026103.cms
why they be saying this...
something is fishy about this whole thing...
this one says
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 026103.cms
paki liars usually lie that it is handiwork of indian raa agint...because they found an uncut benis which had a sacred thread tied to it."It appears the bomber wanted to target ground zero where Pakistan and India border officials stand together to perform the flag ceremony but he could not enter due to tight security at the last gate," a Pakistani intelligence official told Reuters.
why they be saying this...
something is fishy about this whole thing...
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Gus wrote:what was the final destination of that bomb...
this one says
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 026103.cms......"It appears the bomber wanted to target ground zero where Pakistan and India border officials stand together to perform the flag ceremony but he could not enter due to tight security at the last gate," a Pakistani intelligence official told Reuters.
why they be saying this...
something is fishy about this whole thing...
They mean TSP was not the intended target of that bum.
As usual poor innocents got premature explosion by RAA scanners that set it off on their side!
That intelligence official IQ must be less than goat's IQ.
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From NSN Special Reporter
A day after deadly blast at Wagah killed 60 Pakistanis and injured 120 more, Pakistani Rangers defiantly put up a high voltage beating the retreat ceremony a day after they had decided to suspend it for three days. DG Rangers told reporters "We wanted to show the terrorist brothers that Pakistan will not be intimidated by terrorism". Rangers turned out in full uniform regalia in the gleaming Pakistan rangers parade ground which had just been washed and scrubbed spotlessly clean with high pressure hoses. A Pakistan intelligence official said "We hope to collect forensic evidence from the scene after the parade is over and will crack the case within a week".
Meanwhile the contingent of Pakistani citizens, while cheering for Pakistan and calling for Jihad against India, America and Israel taunted the terrorists and said "Your intolerant and violent ideology will never succeed". One spectator, Hanifullah, who had come to see the parade along with his immediate family of 26 paused from raising Anti-Ahmadi slogans and said "If all of Pakistan unites, we can defeat the scourge of terrorists and the intolerant and violent ideologies" He added "The people hell bent on perpetrating violence should be shot and beheaded".
Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan released a video recording of the blast and the last audio recording of the suicide bomber and claimed credit for the dastardly attack. Upon hearing it, speculation is rife among Pakistani analysts about the organization behind the blast. One prominent think tanker said "Pakistani terrorists never attack within Pakistan and only attack neighboring countries. The fact that an attack has happened within Pakistan's soil shows that neighboring countries do not want to reciprocate Pakistan's peaceful and brotherly intentions towards them". Another famous ex Chief of Army staff said that if the attack had happened far away from the border, India would have been the natural suspect as it would have indicated an Indian effort to cover their tracks. Now that it happened close to the border, India is a natural suspect as it indicated a possible attempt at reverse psychology by the Indians. Prominent politician Imran Khan called it a yet another example of total failure of law and order in the country and inability of Nawaz Sharif's government to protect Pakistan from the Taliban. He denounced the war against the Taliban and claimed that Pakistan is fighting America's war and Taliban was not Pakistan's enemy. A prominent liberal thinker now in exile due to attempts on his life said "This is not the Pakistan that the Quaid Jinnah wanted". He then proceeded to quote a verse from Rumi and said that India should work for peace with Pakistan so that liberal voices like him who constitute the majority of Pakistanis can struggle for peace. He requested the NSN reporter to not reveal his name or location fearing danger to his life.
Meanwhile, Pakistan foreign office said that the attack demonstrates yet again that Pakistan itself victim of terrorism and called upon the US to supply more Frigates to fight the taliban and urged IMF to note the deteriorating law and order situation due to their reluctance to loosen loan terms to Pakistan.
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Only Frigates and no cruisers?
Maybe more dhows to smuggle stuff from Araby?
Next time can NSN use "pakopath" to describe such shaheeds?
Maybe more dhows to smuggle stuff from Araby?
Next time can NSN use "pakopath" to describe such shaheeds?
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Not at all. If it was uncircumcized, it would be found lying right there, even after hosing down with a high pressure hose - which is a mandatory first act in all crime scenes where forensic evidence is to be collected. Or else it would be in houristan. And I would not put it beyond kafirs to deliberately have a terrorist circumcized - in which case jannat would not be fooled - it would still be found in situ after hosingRCase wrote:Ulanullah al Batori,UlanBatori wrote: Such shocking ignerantj! Don't u know that the mijjile goes directly to Houristan to be admired by the 72-in-waiting? How do we ejjikate these kuffar on the fundamentals, hai! hai!
If the penis was uncircumcised, then it we know that RAA had a firm hand on it. If it was an exposed, cut mijjile, then it would belong to a muslim... and muslims do not kill other muslims.
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Mullah Shivullah, the expectationas u know, is that one washes behind the ears properly. Where the material that was behind the ears is scattered on the road, hosing down is the only way to ensure that proper ritual is observed. Q.E.D.
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FWIW. Unnamed GOI source says India was real target of Wagah suicide bomber and that the mayhem caused in Pakistan was because of the accidental premature detonation of the bomb. Further says this was “Official” “State Sponsored” act by a section of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s establishment:
Wagah Border attacker's target was India but exploded in Pakistan due to miscalculation
From Economic Times:"That the attack occurred in such a high security zone points out that it could have been a fallout of schisms within the Pakistani apparatus. This section of the Pak establishment wanted to create further mistrust and rift between Delhi and Islamabad. It appears the target of the bomber was India with collateral damages across the border, but he exploded due to some miscalculation," a government source said.
Wagah Border attacker's target was India but exploded in Pakistan due to miscalculation
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^^^ curious, how do they know it wasn't a motorma suicide bomber?
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
The Wagah Strutting and Kandle-Kissing is just a terrorist-magnet. A stadium for 5000, oversubscribed often. What a target! As 'good' as the Samjhauta Express.
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How can a soosai bummer cross wagah into india with the belt hain ji?
India doesn't even allow pakistani vehicles to cross over, because the pakistanis have this penchant for rigging explosives on trucks etc.
Haramzada Gul was complaining in one of the videos that "what trade with india? These indians don't even allow cement to be freely transported there. Coolies have to pick up each bag, and walk a few 100 meters into india and load each bag one by one into an Indian truck"
I can see the disappointment that these terrorist planners have with this security measure by BSF. Harami Gul was clearly crying foul, that they could not even do terrorism unmolested anymore.
India doesn't even allow pakistani vehicles to cross over, because the pakistanis have this penchant for rigging explosives on trucks etc.
Haramzada Gul was complaining in one of the videos that "what trade with india? These indians don't even allow cement to be freely transported there. Coolies have to pick up each bag, and walk a few 100 meters into india and load each bag one by one into an Indian truck"
I can see the disappointment that these terrorist planners have with this security measure by BSF. Harami Gul was clearly crying foul, that they could not even do terrorism unmolested anymore.