Bear with this longish post which is an attempt at poorva-pak(s)h, JM2Cents etc.
The non-violence on demand without verification - the idea in different ways - looks more like black humor of numerous conspiracy theories that are drawn up -in the name of Jew minority- which are pregnant with hallucinations like Satan/Bal/Molochc (many Gods? lol) worship, or magic money making, etc etc! These CTs come up with time to time to target a specific community (Jews) that is in minority in one place and majority in another. Such CTs spectacularly and hilariously unravel simply because there is no Satan in several communities but still such non-believer communities are presumed as Satan-worshipers by over-enthusiasts!
This is the state of "international" standards!
In history of pre-Independence India, there was a curious time window immediately after World War I, wherein (IIRC) several communities were "allowed" by European colonial masters, by power obtained post-wars ( in other words, power vested upon by European royalty) and subsequent loot & pillage, to build temples at sacred place (Kashi IIRC). Coincidentally (only?), these communities were the ones who worship the divine in human form (or allowed to worship murty of human form), and only such communities were allowed to form the next community classes - be it Brahmins or Kshatriya, etc.
Much more curiously, at around that time, Golden temple (Shree Harmandir saheb gurudwar where guru granth saheb is viraajman), the holiest temple of Sikh community) was made devoid of Vishnu murti (and many murti of other deities). How can this happen, when the colonial masters were actually authorizing building of temples at another place during same time? -Sikhs were even helping the British during world war 1.
This was also the time when new bunch of freedom fighters came into limelight, after 1857-1920 time window. These seems to be definite change in discourse of colonization in India.
Imagine, for a moment, that you are a Yazidi community member residing near Yezidi's sacred mountain Sinjar. Over a period of hundreds or thousands of years, several ideas find their way into the 'religious' discourse - including 'Fallen Angel' idea. Soon, there is little distinction between worship style, traditions, clothing etc compared to communities nearby - along with curious lack of presence in class that holds power/weapons/defense. This lack of presence is considered normal simply because the powerful appear similar only. Then a few hundreds or thousands years later, Yezidis are directly attacked by bunch of bloodthirsty warmongrels (ISIL) who do not even recognize the deity (fire) in temples or community elders or priests- and vaguely claim that the community is merely "fire worshipers", (Fallen Angel) satan-worshipers, low-class, etc. Even the Yazidi community members appeal for safety in the name of "race being made extinct". The identity of the entire community is reduced to "race" alone thereby.
At the time of independence of India, several ideas were rejected even when the country was divided in the name of religion and countless were killed in the name of religion. These ideas include population exchange, heavily arming the military, population arming themselves, etc etc. At that time, non-violence was again demanded in India, but not in Pakistan at same level.
At that point of time, no one seemed to remember that communities such as Jews and Parsis were living in India for thousands of years even when Hindus had possessed weapons, were militarily strong with Kshatriya classes, etc etc.
Now, when one talks of "equality" in secularism, it reminds of Hollywood movie (Lincoln) scene of debate in US parliament at the time of internal war and abolition of slavery. The "equality" - as claimed by one of the members - was
"not of races(!), but equality in front of the law"(IIRC). So in case of secularism, is equality is in terms of rights or in front of constitution, but not for religion/God/community/etc? Not clear here. There is no clear definition of "minority" - and since there are many communities in India, giving a number to it can reveal clearly that a religious community with huge number in one state can not be called a "minority" even nationwide. Such a religion, even in one state, will wield an extra ordinary power nation wide, and even more with presence nationwide in one way or another.
This is the context in which Hindutva has emerged, and curiously, compared to "fascism"; which was actually barbaric pogrom against Jews in several European countries.
Such guilt flipping also showing following characteristics:
[*] Formation of constitution that took inspiration from many European constitutions (post Holocaust), in condition mentioned above (post 1857-1920). However, even now, many European countries are very much Christian/Abrahamic only and will remain so.
[*] In India, Hindus are reduced to class of racial minority - like nigros became "African-Americans" suddenly. Consequently, even as members of Hindu organizations are murdered in some states, reaction to such crimes is minimal or absent. Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits come to mind, wherein even foreign embassy officials were forming some club of dissidents while minority Hindus were ethnically cleansed. Bangladesh is another example.
[*] Imagine if Hindus arm themselves against mobs, the reaction to that will be exactly the same as "African Americans" arming themselves in USA.
[*] Protests against ghar-wapasi are only against Hindus reconverting and never against conversion! This is laughable. In this page of this thread alone, there are posts that say that conversions are proscribed in several countries etc. There is total lack of international standards and that is coupled with unequal demand within the country. What do you say to that?
[*] The mid-term goal in all these bruhaha seems to be at forming little pockets of Pakistan (of any type and religion) in India - from observations in Kashmir, Nagaland, etc. This is why there is total silence on Kashmiri Pandits moving back to Kashmir and celebrating this as positive.
[*] Sikh community did another good job, if earlier information about taking murtis of Vishnu out of Shree Harmandir Saheb is accurate. This shows that Karma shows up, even when some tradition are discontinued, even by its absence! This should not have happened by any constitution standards or laws ideally, but now it appears to be okay.
[*] Hindutva is more of cultural movement, but it is always passed off as some negative European idea (facism) by intellectually lazy bunch. Such wordplay seem to be allowed in Constitution under "secularism", wherein falsehood can be passed off as truth, not sure how! At the same time, exclusive ideologies that allow organized religion are given equal status.
[*] If Hindutva can be labeled as "fascist", it can be legit to totally oppose it in the most coarse and hideous manner. It is very much similar to calling unarmed Yezidis as Satan-worshipers, as made legit by changing reference background.
[*] Conversely,
opposition against Hindutva shows true nature of the beast. It would be very much same if Hindus in USA decide to arm themselves as community. This also means that attacks on Yazidis outside India will be totally ignored.
[*] Internationally, my wild guess is that if pakis go just a little dharmic in some way (say cow-worship if pakis want to come out of ==10 Hindus hallucination), the fourfathers will come down on pakis like ton of bricks.
[*] NaMo has worked within the same constitution & same system, which is to the BJP's credit alone. He invited even paki PM for his swearing-in ceremony. He is showing tremendous magnominity by being inclusive nationally, quite contrary to bogus propaganda. Only Bharatmata can be so benovelent in reality to allow NaMo to be PM.
There may be several facets to the constitution, or law that can take case reference from lands of phoren -who claim "equal-equal", in MANY different ways. This is why several things that are apparently normal in a diverse societies can be opposed (probably education system with majority can be opposed, but not if with largest minority!), or allowed (looting temples in Andhra Pradesh). Simply because, in some country and some way, it can be done w.r.t. one community or or can not be done w.r.t. "other communities".
This is also why there is total radio silence about crimes against native Americans, simply because laws in USA has loopholes (thanks again, to Amrika Bojitiv thread). One can be silent about it therefore, without breaking any laws - because of loopholes. Nothing can break the silence because it is legit by all angles, and no one seems to be in any wrong going by regulations by being silent only.
JM2C etc.
