Telugu States' News and Discussion

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 22 Oct 2015 19:28

is there a good pic of the garuda statue at the new tirupati airport available to view online?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 22 Oct 2015 20:47

A lot of friends are whining that Modi did not promise any package to AP as special package is supposed to be announced for the state according to Telangana bill. any comments?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Oct 2015 21:13

This special package whine is just that.
More important Center shouldn't impede the state.

Telugus will prosper.

Note KCR right next to NaMo also there.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 22 Oct 2015 22:29

SaiK wrote:is there a good pic of the garuda statue at the new tirupati airport available to view online?

A documentary, in Telugu. link

The first image below explains the building look:

More on this link.

Happy Vijaya Dashmi to all, specially to BRF members from Andhra.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 22 Oct 2015 23:11

Yagnasri wrote:Just look what this pakjabi bit** wrote about new capital of AP. I wonder if they have written anything about Chandigarh like this.

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/politics/an ... 54083.html

Calm down. Don't go around calling people Pakis.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 22 Oct 2015 23:13

What a great opportunity for AP to build a new city from scratch!! Hope they come up with something astounding and wonderful, with wide roads, free flowing traffic, great public transport, green spaces, public security, less pollution, best sanitation and sewage (and its treatment), waste disposal, cleanliness, plenty of water availability, safe drinking water for all, slum free and education for all. This is their chance to create the best city in India, period. All the best to them.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 22 Oct 2015 23:59

aayayayayyooooo vishvak gaaru..
naat taaalking that emblem..ji

the actual granite? statue inside the new tirupati airport that modi ji was inspecting.
I saw that hindu link has pic that is not clear or angle of pic doesn't throw the intricacies of statue design. the garuda statue looks interesting.

yvijay · Post by **yvijay** » 23 Oct 2015 01:47

Happy Dussehra to all !

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 02:30

devesh wrote:
Yagnasri wrote:Just look what this pakjabi bit** wrote about new capital of AP.
Calm down. Don't go around calling people Pakis.

I second that. Please calm down and watch the TV clip in where she asked a couple of questions to CBN. In that TV clip, she was certainly quite enthusiastic about the planned city.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 23 Oct 2015 03:03

I thought Modi should have gifted 1K to 5K crores for the capital. AP has been royally screwed by $ONIA by promising special status but nothing has been done to help new state which has very little revenues

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 23 Oct 2015 04:05

Modi also inaugurated the industrial area in Tirupati for manufacturing cellphones. A number of companies have already signed and production will start soon

Andhra under CBN is doing well in attracting industry. That is much more useful than dole from Center.

Modi said all promises in Andhra reorganization act will be fulfilled.

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 23 Oct 2015 07:12

Looks like Modi/BJP lost whatever little support he/it had in AP. If there are elections in AP now, TDP shouldn't go with a pre-poll alliance with BJP. Some of the folks (anti-Congress) even go to the extent of saying a BJP loss in Bihar would be desirable to make Modi act on his promises to AP.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 07:17

I think Modi will help AP. AP folks don't need to go hyper. The thing is centre can't just give special treatment to AP because other states will not agree to that. So, Modi will give generous help in other ways without directly giving a special status. AP will need support for next 5-10 years. And Modi will give help. AP's rise is important for Make-in-India story. But, they should not expect total dole out either.

BTW, the ceremony of Amravathi was well-organized. It was historic to quote CBN. And it was nice to see both Thelugu CMs in attendance.

yvijay · Post by **yvijay** » 23 Oct 2015 07:37

Forgot about it ! also Happy Bathukamma to every body ! Here's the info about bathukamma
Bathukamma

Also in Telangana , on Dussehra day, we go near Jammi tree and pray the following puja.

Samee samayate paapam
Samee satruvinasanam
Arjunasya dhanurdhari
Ramasya priyadarsini

It is to celebrate the Pandavas victory. Pandavas stashed their astras (weapons) on the Jammi tree during their 13th year of exile. This bundle of weapons looked like a corpse and was guarded by a snake. The Pandavas retrieved them on the sacred Vijaya Dasami day. So, on this day Ayudha puja (prayer to tools or weapons) is performed. (Tools, books, vehicles and appliances etc. are worshipped).

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 23 Oct 2015 08:09

some eons back in bengaluru, i had visited some gullies where as kids we sometime meet. this was one of those bhogi day or around that. so, they burn old cloths and sticks and kids used to have fun with the fire. they drag it in the streets and sing a telugu song. don't ban if it contains bad words.

i am onlee trying to remember/this is way too long ago [me no telugu].

ramudamma ramudu
rayapeta? ramudu
then... something.
..evaramma initulu
usilamma intitulu
.... chechu poya
ooooooo ya!

now, hearing this.. people must come forward from inside their homes and provide more fuel to fire - old cloths, sticks or what not.

i can't forget the street kids smile, laughter and the song... it is so vivid, and in memory. total fun and happiness one could get by just remembering this mapped to the kids laughing faces, especially lit by night fire.

it is an experience that i think our current gen kids miss too.

chandrasekhar.m · Post by **chandrasekhar.m** » 23 Oct 2015 08:14

Amaravati Inauguration ceremony -

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Oct 2015 08:35

It is the perception that is there in AP that NM is not helping. Con Mafia and Jagan criminal gang are all shouting it from rooftops. NM openly need to do something like some central universities etc in AP so that this will stop or mitigated. There is no need to give any money to AP as it will all be looted by contractors and politicos.

Some of the provisions of the reorganisation are plainly wrong. I know personally one case of a Corporation wherein all the assets created from borrowings are situated in TS and AP was asked to repay 60% of the borrowing amount. When entire assets are created in Hyd city - to ask AP to repay the amount is beyond anyone. Yet that is what is being asked. It is this kind of issues that will damage BJP and allow Jagan Criminal gang and Con Mafia return in AP.

May be CBN should impose huge professional tax etc on Central institutes like Banks, railway and even GOI employees now posted in AP to repay the liabilities AP was forced to take after the division. Since it was done by GOI it is natural its organisations like PSU Banks pays for that. In any even PSU banks do not lend much in AP as of today as they funded units in Hyd city only. Another one is to tax the telugu movies which are anyway not being made in AP and not creating any employment there.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 08:45

AP has port which T lacks. Sooner than later, AP will be better placed due to the coast. So, there is really no need for any tensions. It is T which needs to be careful and plan ahead on water and electricity. And it will still remain land-locked. T also has a strategic location right in the centre of the country connecting the east coast and west coast. And also south and north.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Oct 2015 09:06

It is not just economics. AP division took place because MQ insisted on it and force it when it does not make any political sense or no benefit to her. It is project to ensure that we have a neo Nizam colony in the heart of India and AP falls for Evangelical forces. Just see Owaisi raise in Indian politics after that. With this background not destroying Con Mafia in Telugu lands particularly in AP along with EJ Jagan criminal gang is not an option for Indics.

Huge debt and very low revenue will make CBN spend less on so called "social welfare" measures for which AP people are made addicted by YSR gang earlier. Jagan criminal gang is still strong in AP and Con Mafia may stage a comeback if it is allowed. If both happens AP will fall not just politically but civilisationally and will become a EJ stronghold.

Hence there is a need to make AP BJP strong. Already powerful congress leaders jumped to BJP after division and their services can be effectively used now by BJP. While giving money may be difficult, annocing projects like IITs, IIMs AIMS etc is not. Road and other projects which are anyway coming to AP can be better packaged and shown as it is given to AP as a special case etc. It is all creating an idea that BJP is supporting AP etc. That is all needed.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 09:13

AP division allows the possibility of EJs controlling the southern coasts. Its a long-time project. If there is one good thing done by Nehru regime, it was unification of Thelugus, thereby stopping Dhravidian separatism. Now, sonia undid the unification.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Oct 2015 09:20

The long term plan is to get entire south to fall for EJ. I fear Jagan gang for this reason. In AP all the reasonable people left Con Mafia after division. MQ also visited only Guntur with large EJ voter base during 2014 GE. That should give a clear indication to all of us. Once Jagan becomes weak EJ voters will move back to Con Mafia and they is a good % of them in AP today.

So making BJP powerful is a national project as of as AP is concerned. Just like in Assam, WB, and NE states, AP needs a strong Indic force ASAP.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 09:25

So, EJ saturation in north-east and now focusing on south...

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 09:44

Yvijay jammi is shami. Yes, it is the day on which brihannala reverts back the great kuru warrior arjuna. Gandeeva is brought down by Uttara kumara from the shamika vriksha where pandavas hid their shastrAstra. arjuna single handed key defeats the atirathA and mahA rathA of the kaurava army using sammOhanAstra. Probably the best of all of MB.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 09:48

a_bharat wrote:Looks like Modi/BJP lost whatever little support he/it had in AP. If there are elections in AP now, TDP shouldn't go with a pre-poll alliance with BJP.

Bharat garu, CBN himself gave a thumbs up to Modi in his speech. Please factor in YSJ{agan,esus} into the equation. CBN may not have a smooth ride.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Oct 2015 09:50

Why not watch Nartanasala movie?

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 09:54

JohneeG garu: dehli is land locked too so is MP and Punjab, Haryana, UP. In this day and age it is certainly not a big handicap presuming it is one in the first place.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 09:56

That part of MB seems very unrealistic: single Arjuna defeating entire Kauravas. Infact, even sending the prince Uttara to fight alone accompanied by an enunch dance teacher, is unrealistic.

----
Vayu Tuvan,
I think division was a bad move for T. Thats my personal view. I don't think AP has anything to lose due to division in the long run(as in 10-20 yrs) unless there is a greater Dhravidian politics at play.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 09:57

Ramana garu: I should get around to it. But then the padyamulu are from tikkanna after all. I already read parts of Telugu MB of kavi traya.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 09:59

Well, MB has lots of unbelievable parts. But then real events become legends which become myth. The wheel turns inexorably.

Let me pose partly rhetorical, partly enquiring, partly trick question.

Because of a few poetic licenses taken by the author(s) of the epic, would are you reject the philosophy expounded there in?

I am not expecting an answer but feel free to do so - if not in this thread, then elsewhere on BRF.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Oct 2015 10:00

The peoms are from Tikkana. Chaganti also done pravachana on Virata parvam which is avaliable online for us hear. I think I have it somewhere.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 10:01

MB's main 18 day war is quite realistic.

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 23 Oct 2015 10:03

Perception is important and BJP is doing rather poorly here. Some people think that Modi doesn't want CBN to succeed as Modi wants to monopolize the development plank.

CBN needs to keep the Centre on his side to have a shot at even partially accomplishing what he promised. At the same time, Modi/BJP's image has gone down in the eyes of AP people, so TDP going to elections with BJP as an ally will only help Jagan and Congress. Fortunately, elections are quite sometime away, and the situation is very much retrievable for BJP and they should start delivering on at least some of their own promises and should project themselves as doing something "extra" for AP.

If BJP could give a multi-lakh-crore package to Bihar (even if it is a gimmick -- don't know if it is or not), why can't they do it for AP is something that people in AP are finding difficult to digest.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 10:09

vayu tuvan wrote:Well, MB has lots of unbelievable parts. But then real events become legends which become myth. The wheel turns inexorably.

Let me pose partly rhetorical, partly enquiring, partly trick question.

Because of a few poetic licenses taken by the author(s) of the epic, would are you reject the philosophy expounded there in?

I am not expecting an answer but feel free to do so - if not in this thread, then elsewhere on BRF.

Which philosophy? There seem to be different philosophies expounded in the epics.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Oct 2015 10:09

johneeG wrote:AP division allows the possibility of EJs controlling the southern coasts. Its a long-time project. If there is one good thing done by Nehru regime, it was unification of Thelugus, thereby stopping Dhravidian separatism. Now, sonia undid the unification.

It has brought some power to both the EJs and the jehadis. This was however much less the envisaged original intent because of the magnitude of the NaMo victory and has deeply upset the apple carts of many an international player.

CBN going to singapore and other foreign countries for his maha capital with competent players available in country is also suspicious and basically hostile and Cui bono is a phrase that comes to mind

The war gaming did not factor in Modi's rise at the national level. There is much more to not providing unlimited funding to CBN than what is apparent on the surface. There is a huge trust deficit between CBN and the BJP post the ABV debacle which involved very large moneys being siphoned away.

CBN is not willing to address any of the BJP's concerns while demanding that all his concerns be addressed ASAP.

entities like MSY, didi, amma and CBN tried very hard to scuttle the Modi boat and did not succeed and all of them wanted to get a DMK like stranglehold on Modi and ride into the swiss bank sunset with bags full of loot and Modi is not the forgiving kind especially where so little benefit will accrue to the BJP despite what ever is given to CBN

LKA did not endear himself to anyone by his stupid shenanigans. MQ and her vatican gang was burnt quite badly by this and there may have been a certain congruence of interests between MQ and LKA as regards Modi

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 23 Oct 2015 10:16

CBN always liked singapore... even during his last rule, he had promised united AP would become like Singapore by 2020.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 10:21

There is a place for every philosophy. One has to be eclectic. Please expound on each philosophy that has been expounded, if you feel.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 23 Oct 2015 10:31

In Kaliyuga,almost every issue has shades of grey.

http://kammasworld.blogspot.in/search/label/Tamilnadu%20Kammas

http://kammasworld.blogspot.in/search/label/Tamilnadu%20Kammas%20History%20and%20info
http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/ ... 114587.ece
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 614947.ece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddiar

A. Subbarayalu Reddiar - First Chief Minister of Madras Presidency - Dec 1920 - June 1921
V. Venkatasubha Reddiar - Former Chief Minister of Puducherry and a prominent Puducherry freedom fighter[4]
O. P. Ramaswamy Reddiyar - Chief Minister of Madras Presidency - 1947-1949
Vaithilingam - Chief Minister of Puducherry - July 4, 1991 to May 13, 1996 (first term), September 4, 2008 – April 13, 2011
Muthukomarappa Reddiar - Prominent Puducherry freedom fighter[5]
Annamalai Reddiyar - Tamil poet
Krishnamurthy Reddiar - Prominent herbal practitioner from Sri Lanka[6]
K. K. S. S. R. Ramachandran Former Co-operation, PWD minister in MGR cabinet.
K. N. Nehru :Former Milk,food minister in DMK cabinet(1996–2000). Transport minister in DMK cabinet (2006–2011)
Napoleon: Actor and MP of Perambalur Constituency Central Minister Of State for Social Justice and Empo

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Oct 2015 10:38

a_bharat wrote:Perception is important and BJP is doing rather poorly here. Some people think that Modi doesn't want CBN to succeed as Modi wants to monopolize the development plank.

CBN needs to keep the Centre on his side to have a shot at even partially accomplishing what he promised. At the same time, Modi/BJP's image has gone down in the eyes of AP people, so TDP going to elections with BJP as an ally will only help Jagan and Congress. Fortunately, elections are quite sometime away, and the situation is very much retrievable for BJP and they should start delivering on at least some of their own promises and should project themselves as doing something "extra" for AP.

If BJP could give a multi-lakh-crore package to Bihar (even if it is a gimmick -- don't know if it is or not), why can't they do it for AP is something that people in AP are finding difficult to digest.

Modi is quite an experienced politician. Much more perceptive and more effective than CBN can ever be, despite what CBN may himself think personally after having moved about in entitled high society for most of his life and reaped all sorts of personal benefits from a hyderabadi lutyens like setup as it were.

Don't make the mistake of taking Modi's chaiwallah analogy literally. He is very far removed from a chaiwallah as any one can ever be in this life and much better folks than CBN are ruing the day that they based their Modi dealings on this solely PR premise

Is there something that CBN is not willing to give Modi but is still insisting on striking a one way "deal" that short changes the BJP??

Perception matters little in AP for the BJP as it is not a great power there anyway and is not likely to be in the near future.

CBN maybe wishes to control Modi through the RS seats, while Modi is not, repeat not willing to be controlled by the likes of CBN.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Oct 2015 10:42

Hyderabad has become like Singapore. One feels claustrophobic in the narrow streets and high rise buildings on both sides. Flyovers galore. It is a dream come true for cyberpunk writers like Gibson. Only thing missing is flying cars as in the movies fifth element or blade runner. We will get them too soon enough. there is some hope in the navya amarAvati.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Oct 2015 11:10

Just visit old city of hyd sirji. you will have peace of mind.

CBN is also slowly doing EJ type political dramas. I am not sure how far he is loyal to indic values or will behave like Nithishwa later on. He did behaved like Nithishwa before.