LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

member_28990 · Post by **member_28990** » 22 Jan 2016 15:59

an even better display today - much better camerawork, VERY complimentary commentary, BIG applause by the spectators.

pralay · Post by **pralay** » 22 Jan 2016 16:01

"Terrific Display by Teejaass!" Says the commentator.
Tijaas lands down without deploying choots,... with spectators clapping..

pralay · Post by **pralay** » 22 Jan 2016 16:02

thanks habal for the notice or i would have certainly misssed it

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Jan 2016 16:05

recording please!

member_27581 · Post by **member_27581** » 22 Jan 2016 16:12

Bharadwaj wrote:The khujli has started in a certain forum

Missed the joke partly(the certain forum)...but still

ing to avoid looking dumb...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Jan 2016 16:26

looks like the redoubtable WS-13 quilong or kunlun that was supposed to match the RD93 was a flop and got scrapped at some point. TSP is going to use RD93 long term and are hoping to put in some european radar, avionics in future jf17 tranches.

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 22 Jan 2016 17:12

with due respects to JF 17..its a chinese plane not paki... its in operational service...and if it has added capabilities to PAF..good luck to them. Onus is on us to manufacture Tejas in numbers ( hopefully by some private operator), integrate best of weaponry and sensors and put it in squadron service, refine tactics and other issues of maintenance, logisitcs. and seek of improve it with subsequent variants, seek export potential and ensure the aerospace industry flourishes. and when time comes it proves its mettle in combat.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 22 Jan 2016 17:27

Singha, with this agility + DASH HMS + R73E/Python 5 + AESA radar + Derby-ER and Astra + Litening pod + Griffin and Paveway LGB + SPJ...

And then datalinking, which was implemented on LUSH harriers too and allows third party designation of targets for BVR.

The LCA will be a Mirage 2000 equivalent in AF, if we get enough IFR capability.

What a small, powerful package.

shaun · Post by **shaun** » 22 Jan 2016 17:39

Singha Saab , can you please tell us the flight timing for tomorrow

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 22 Jan 2016 17:42

http://www.defencenews.in/article/27-ai ... c-Day-2257
and no LCA for RD 2016?

Hemanth · Post by **Hemanth** » 22 Jan 2016 17:46

Watched the Bahrain TV clip in Tejas FB page in Bed; a lovely thing to wake up to! Decent commentary as well; although felt like he was struggling to find any details to say. Overall, a good show.

And, TeeJaas!

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 22 Jan 2016 18:15

Singha wrote:looks like the redoubtable WS-13 quilong or kunlun that was supposed to match the RD93 was a flop and got scrapped at some point. TSP is going to use RD93 long term and are hoping to put in some european radar, avionics in future jf17 tranches.

why can't we block the sale of arms and parts to Pakistan? aren't we strong enough to emphasise this with all OEM's in india and abroad.? we are just not applying pressure. our enemies being strong is ok by us.

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 22 Jan 2016 18:21

My compliment to all the scientists and test pilots

Jai Hind

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 22 Jan 2016 18:47

Hot! That one super sexy indian item dancing in the sky!! Coming just by watching.

And we haven't named her yet!?

member_28990 · Post by **member_28990** » 22 Jan 2016 20:33

friend in Bahrain sent me this - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZVc3tuXEAAJ0rl.jpg:large

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 22 Jan 2016 20:45

do we have the video of the second flying demo ? on 22nd

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 22 Jan 2016 20:52

SaiK wrote:http://www.defencenews.in/article/27-ai ... c-Day-2257
and no LCA for RD 2016?

I think no single engine plane is allowed to fly for RD

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 22 Jan 2016 20:56

includes helos?

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 22 Jan 2016 22:32

Not sure about Helo's

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 22 Jan 2016 22:33

“Tejas is a pilot’s delight”

At 1550 hrs in Bahrain on Thursday, as the Sarang Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) aerobatic team was winding down its performance, India’s Light Combat Aircraft Tejas took off with a roar, climbed almost vertically immediately and then displayed its capabilities for the next 10 minutes to a discerning audience of aviation enthusiasts.

The manoeuvres ranging from a square loop to a steep dive and from tight turns to two rolls demonstrated the arrival of a new, capable and potent kid on the military aviation scene.

Perhaps the world’s smallest lightweight, multi role single engine tactical fighter aircraft, Tejas has been long in the making but it’s performance in Bahrain – its first demo outside India – should leave no doubt about its capabilities.

As a Bahrain official remarked immediately after the Tejas flight, “We had only heard about the Tejas earlier but the way it demonstrated its capability today, we are happy that its international debut was here in Bahrain. It’s a winner by any standards.”

The two test pilots – Commodore Jaideep Maolankar and Group Capt Madhav Rangachari – too were happy! Speaking to BharatShakti immediately after completing the flight, a beaming Maolankar said, “It was a culmination of long hours of team work. Elated that it went off so well.” Rangachari added, “Given how hard all of us had worked and planned for this, there was never any doubt about Tejas performing so well.”

Both the aviators stressed on the fact that Tejas is a pilot’s delight. “Today, we can say Tejas has come of age,” both said in unison.

RA7D3345-1Dr. S Christopher, DG DRDO and secretary R&D, who has specially flown in to witness the Tejas flight, was more than happy. “Today we have demonstrated to the world that we are capable of producing a world class fighter plane. It was quite different from Tejas flying in Bangalore. Here a discerning audience was watching the performance very closely and my feedback is the curiosity has now only increased. As the RM has said we are ready to productionise the Tejas from next year. Already people are making enquiries about its capabilities. Our team work has paid off.”

B Balaji, head of the LCA programme at the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) pointed out that the participation in Bahrain enabled the team to achieve expansion of its flight envelope and test the upgraded flight control systems.

Air Vice Marshal J. Chalapati, Project Director at the National Flight Test Centre of the ADA too was satisfied with the performance. “The world wanted to know if Tejas is really the fourth generation plus fighter aircraft. Today they saw the proof.”

With the initial flights behind them, the Tejas team will fly the aircraft on Friday and Saturday too for the spectators at the show. On Saturday, India’s External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj is likely to be visit the show and witness the Tejas flight.

Thursday, 21st January will no doubt be recorded as a significant milestone in Tejas’ long and chequered history. From here on only sky is the limit for this indigenously designed, developed and manufactured combat aircraft.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 22 Jan 2016 23:10

nileshjr wrote:
kit wrote:Why are some people whining about tejas giving away it's secrets ?!... the full combat abilities depends on its avionics as armament too... in vr combat it' as good as any non tvc fighter out there .. and quite probably even better!
Perhaps they don't know that a lot of Wind tunnel testing/FCS testing of Tejas has been done in US/Europe, and they practically know everything about it, or know enough from where they can easily extrapolate. Laws of Physics do not change.

Guys, I was being sarcastic. But I did not realize that some people are actually saying those same things in all seriousness.

enaiel · Post by **enaiel** » 22 Jan 2016 23:21

Has anyone from IAF excluding NFTC commented anything positive about Tejas?

indranilroy wrote:“Tejas is a pilot’s delight”

As a Bahrain official remarked immediately after the Tejas flight, “We had only heard about the Tejas earlier but the way it demonstrated its capability today, we are happy that its international debut was here in Bahrain. It’s a winner by any standards.”

The two test pilots – Commodore Jaideep Maolankar and Group Capt Madhav Rangachari – too were happy! Speaking to BharatShakti immediately after completing the flight, a beaming Maolankar said, “It was a culmination of long hours of team work. Elated that it went off so well.” Rangachari added, “Given how hard all of us had worked and planned for this, there was never any doubt about Tejas performing so well.”

Both the aviators stressed on the fact that Tejas is a pilot’s delight. “Today, we can say Tejas has come of age,” both said in unison.

RA7D3345-1Dr. S Christopher, DG DRDO and secretary R&D, who has specially flown in to witness the Tejas flight, was more than happy. “Today we have demonstrated to the world that we are capable of producing a world class fighter plane. It was quite different from Tejas flying in Bangalore. Here a discerning audience was watching the performance very closely and my feedback is the curiosity has now only increased. As the RM has said we are ready to productionise the Tejas from next year. Already people are making enquiries about its capabilities. Our team work has paid off.”

B Balaji, head of the LCA programme at the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) pointed out that the participation in Bahrain enabled the team to achieve expansion of its flight envelope and test the upgraded flight control systems.

Air Vice Marshal J. Chalapati, Project Director at the National Flight Test Centre of the ADA too was satisfied with the performance. “The world wanted to know if Tejas is really the fourth generation plus fighter aircraft. Today they saw the proof.”

enaiel · Post by **enaiel** » 22 Jan 2016 23:25

Even a quote from an "unnamed IAF official" will do.

sankum · Post by **sankum** » 22 Jan 2016 23:33

PB500 bomb tested on tejas

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 23 Jan 2016 00:21

shiv wrote:
Alan Warnes wrote about his being invited to Shitistan before it happened - and sure enough an article appeared after that visit.

He was treated like royalty when he was invited in Shitistan. In the unmentionable forum- Bahrain- Airshow thread is a photo he posted on the net of him enjoying chicken Tikka Masala 30,000 ft over Pakistan in a plush Phenom 100 four seater jet of the Fizzle Ya. (I remember this jet was bought for travel by the Air Marshals of the PAF).

Alan tried to do a Coughley for his Puki masters and did an equal equal between Tejas and Bandar yesterday.
He has posted "Talking to IAF today, one senior officer admitted he was impressed how "they [PAF] had done so much with the JF-17 so quickly."

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 23 Jan 2016 00:38

Alan became persona non grata with a significant section of IAF during Parakram when he did a poorly disguised propaganda piece for his PAF sponsors. He promptly declared PAF would hold an edge because of this that bla bla...a few years later it came out that PAF didn't even have most of its new F7s operational and was having huge issues with Mirage 3 and F-16s.. he swallowed whatever bilge TSPAF gives him and regurgitates it because it helped boost AFM in UK where a lot of Non resident Pakistanis purchased the mag as long as it ran PAF PR..

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 23 Jan 2016 00:45

so much bluff to match a single conventional war machine, just think about nukes? btw, we should be able to deliver a nuke or two with tea-yes!

.

note: this is not one nation's etch&di on fire.

k prasad · Post by **k prasad** » 23 Jan 2016 00:50

Pliss someone, video of Tejas display from 22nd, with commentary. Urgently needed saars

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Jan 2016 00:59

sankum wrote:PB500 bomb tested on tejas

Very good. Means Mk 83 type bombs in addition to HSLD, Russian, and UK origin.

IAF is getting serious about a/c shelters and hangers. Not just runways.

Kill them dead.

I want to see Griffin with HSLD.

A special reason.

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 23 Jan 2016 01:03

^^^ You won't have to wait too long. Tender for Generation of Aerodynamic Loads on the Bomb As per Spc No. ARDE/ADM/450Griffin/Study/01.

They are actually studying the feasibility of increasing the carriage envelop of the kit with the 450 kg HSLD bomb.

enaiel · Post by **enaiel** » 23 Jan 2016 03:28

The performance made me happy... and then this made me sad:

Abhishek Shrivastava Sir, ADA site we have the number of sorties of LCA's diffrent version, But no flight information for SP-1. Is it flying somewhere?
January 10 at 4:07am

Nikhil Singh SP 1 is not ADA's responsibility now
That's my guess,i may be wrong
January 10 at 9:40am

Tejas - LCA No. It has not been flying since last Feb.
January 10 at 10:47am

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 23 Jan 2016 04:17

LokeshC wrote:Guys, I was being sarcastic. But I did not realize that some people are actually saying those same things in all seriousness.

Believe me..they are and much more..

Asit P · Post by **Asit P** » 23 Jan 2016 04:53

Sharing some pictures of Tejas clicked by me from yesterday's flight display at Bahrain International Airshow:

All set to take off

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Asit P · Post by **Asit P** » 23 Jan 2016 05:14

Some observations that I made are:

1). It is small and very swift, as a result of which, it was difficult to capture its shots in camera in comparison to the other aircrafts
2). The diameter of 360 degree loop made by Tejas was shorter than that of F 16 & Mirage 2000 (naked eye observation)
3). The part of runway it took to take off was also shorter than the above mentioned birds (again naked eye observation)
4). Unlike the Sarang display team, there was very little awareness about this bird in the general public (Indians included). Unfortunately, the live commentary went off today owing to some technical snag just before Tejas took off to the skies,for the want of which, many people were left wondering as to which aircraft it is. I heard many people say that its a Saudi plane. One champion went on to say that it was JF 17

5). Purely from the perspective of engaging the audience, bulk of which comprises of kids and those who have very little awareness about defense products, Tejas must use colored smoke instead of White.

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 23 Jan 2016 05:41

Thank you for those pictures. Beautiful.

Asit P wrote:Some observations that I made are:

1). It is small and very swift, as a result of which, it was difficult to capture its shots in camera in comparison to the other aircrafts

It is really difficult on the eye.

Asit P wrote:
2). The diameter of 360 degree loop made by Tejas was shorter than that of F 16 & Mirage 2000 (naked eye observation)

I think F-16's minimum radius turn is 1400 feet (425 mtrs). It finishes it in approximately 18 seconds or so. The fastest, I have seen till now is a Su-27 (1990 Farnborough) in about 14 seconds.

Asit P wrote:
3). The part of runway it took to take off was also shorter than the above mentioned birds (again naked eye observation)

It was a deliberate move to do so. It shows off the TWR and wing loading of the plane.