ON BOARD SAGAR NIDHI: It's an acquisition that would make India's deep-sea research scale new heights and the grit of scientists from National Institute of Ocean Technology (NIOT) indicates they are raring to put the Rs 232-crore "offshore lab" to optimum use.
Sagar Nidhi , which can carry 30 scientists at one time, is now the most sophisticated Oceanography Research Vehicle (ORV) India has.
Its unmanned camera-laden robotic submersible can dive 6,000 metres deep to perform multiple applications through an onboard remote-controlled console. It would be the maximum depth that any Indian gizmo has travelled so far.
"We had been waiting for this world-class vehicle because many ongoing ocean projects could not fructify. Built with global partnership, this vessel would make our scientists resolve the mysteries of the ocean bed," science and technology minister Kapil Sibal told TOI.
The country's first technology demonstrator vessel would be put to immediate use in deep sea mining, desalination, scooping up polymetallic nodules and finding gas hydrates on the ocean bed. The "ice-classed" vehicle can cruise for 45 days at a stretch and would expectedly help in the country's Antarctica research mission as well, besides supporting underwater observation system.
The fully air-conditioned Sagar Nidhi comes with an onboard tsunami warning buoy which, Sibal said, would pass on warning of any impending storm to people within 10 minutes through a system of ground stations and satellites.
Among the best equipped vessels of its kind globally, the prize possession, built in Italy, can also be used as an assisting vehicle during distress situations on the sea due to its salvage and tow capacity. NIOT director S Kathiroli, who led the team of scientists on board, said the vehicle would open new vistas for researchers as it was the most sophisticated so far.
"We hope to announce some primary outcomes very soon. The vehicle is expected to conduct wide-ranging experiments in due course," he said.
NIOT is also banking on the vessel in finding alternative sources of energy like methane. The ship's dynamic positioning system gives it much higher on-sea manoeuvrability than other vehicles in the category, globally.
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India gets hi-tech offshore lab for Rs 232 crore
India commissions Sagar Nidhi
Seabed-mining ship Sagar Nidhi joins Indian fleet
Seabed-mining ship Sagar Nidhi joins Indian fleet
The research vessel is the first in India equipped with a winch and cable strong enough to hoist 60 tonnes from a depth of 6,000 metres under the sea. It is also the first with a feature that allows it to maintain its position within five metres of a point even in choppy seawaters with 2.5-metre high waves.
AERVs Modified to suit Army's needs
AERVs Modified to suit Army's needs
Times of india Print March 4 2008
VRDE rolled out two AERV on monday. This was the 2nd consignment .
AERV is the countrys 1st indigenously developed armoured vehicle designed on russian BMP2 built at a cost of 6 crore.
The 1st eight vehicles were inducted into the army in 2005-2006.
The army had placed LSP requirement of 16 units in 2 batches.
The first 8 vehicles were found totally inadequate to deal with hot and humid conditions in Punjab and Rajasthan where the Corps of Engineers were using them.
This lot has an entirely new re-designed air-conditioning system and a change has been made in the power transforming pulley
What the significance of this
Times of india Print March 4 2008
VRDE rolled out two AERV on monday. This was the 2nd consignment .
AERV is the countrys 1st indigenously developed armoured vehicle designed on russian BMP2 built at a cost of 6 crore.
The 1st eight vehicles were inducted into the army in 2005-2006.
The army had placed LSP requirement of 16 units in 2 batches.
The first 8 vehicles were found totally inadequate to deal with hot and humid conditions in Punjab and Rajasthan where the Corps of Engineers were using them.
This lot has an entirely new re-designed air-conditioning system and a change has been made in the power transforming pulley
What the significance of this
Pipavav Shipyard plans to build submarines for Indian Navy
India will invest more than Rs50,000 crore over the next 15-20 years to build 24 submarines by 2025-30, spending $14-16 billion (Rs56,420- 64,480 crore).
Currently, only Mazagon Dock, Goa Shipyard Ltd and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd are authorized to build warships. All the three yards are state-owned entities controlled by the defence ministry. In the private sector, only L&T holds a licence to build warships.
The Indian Navy is also looking to take over another state-run shipyard, Hindustan Shipyard Ltd, which is now controlled by the shipping ministry.
A group of ministers, headed by external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, is discussing a proposal to transfer the shipyard, located close to the headquarters of the eastern naval command at the port city of Visakhapatnam, to the navy. This will boost India’s warship-building capabilities and cater to the navy’s requirements.
India will invest more than Rs50,000 crore over the next 15-20 years to build 24 submarines by 2025-30, spending $14-16 billion (Rs56,420- 64,480 crore).
Currently, only Mazagon Dock, Goa Shipyard Ltd and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd are authorized to build warships. All the three yards are state-owned entities controlled by the defence ministry. In the private sector, only L&T holds a licence to build warships.
The Indian Navy is also looking to take over another state-run shipyard, Hindustan Shipyard Ltd, which is now controlled by the shipping ministry.
A group of ministers, headed by external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, is discussing a proposal to transfer the shipyard, located close to the headquarters of the eastern naval command at the port city of Visakhapatnam, to the navy. This will boost India’s warship-building capabilities and cater to the navy’s requirements.
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complete info on the vessel
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DRDO report from Singapore airshow
Good report on Tejas
Good report on Tejas
What does the LTTE report have to do with Indian R&D?gogna wrote:Sudha Marine Engineering's future in jeopardy
Arrogance still lives on. Talk about someone being prisoner of their past.Ch: What is the one single achievement, professional or personal that makes you very proud?
I am very attached to the Cryogenic engine. When we were developing it, I had gone on my first trip abroad to Russia. The Russians challenged us and told us that despite exposing us to all the facilities they had, we will never be able to develop it here. In open meetings they have said that the engine was developed in Russia in 1965 and it will take at least till 2065 for it to be developed in India. Today, I am very happy that our flight engine is getting integrated and if everything goes well at ISRO, this December we should have the GSLV which will carry engines produced
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Pipavav Shipyard plans to build submarines for Indian Navy.
India’s newest private sector shipbuilder, Pipavav Shipyard Ltd, plans to build vessels for the country’s navy at its facility in Gujarat in western India, making it the second private firm in the country, after Larsen and Toubro Ltd (L&T), to venture into this business.
India will invest more than Rs50,000 crore over the next 15-20 years to build 24 submarines by 2025-30, spending $14-16 billion (Rs56,420- 64,480 crore).
Defence venture: L&T’s shipbuilding yard in Hajira. Currently, L&T is the only licence holder for building warships in the private sector.
The country has already signed a $3.5 billion deal with French firm DCNS, or Direction des Constructions Navales Services, in October 2005 to acquire six Scorpene-class submarines.
Pipavav Shipyard, which disclosed its plan in a filing with stock market regulator Securities and Exchange Board of India in the run-up to a share sale to raise about Rs800 crore, will bid for the navy’s project when it invites requests for proposals to build the remaining 18 submarines locally.
However, without experience in building and repairing naval ships, Pipavav, promoted by SKIL Infrastructure Ltd, will have to team up with an experienced shipyard or a technology partner to become eligible to bid for the order. “We need many different things to move forward on this,â€
India’s newest private sector shipbuilder, Pipavav Shipyard Ltd, plans to build vessels for the country’s navy at its facility in Gujarat in western India, making it the second private firm in the country, after Larsen and Toubro Ltd (L&T), to venture into this business.
India will invest more than Rs50,000 crore over the next 15-20 years to build 24 submarines by 2025-30, spending $14-16 billion (Rs56,420- 64,480 crore).
Defence venture: L&T’s shipbuilding yard in Hajira. Currently, L&T is the only licence holder for building warships in the private sector.
The country has already signed a $3.5 billion deal with French firm DCNS, or Direction des Constructions Navales Services, in October 2005 to acquire six Scorpene-class submarines.
Pipavav Shipyard, which disclosed its plan in a filing with stock market regulator Securities and Exchange Board of India in the run-up to a share sale to raise about Rs800 crore, will bid for the navy’s project when it invites requests for proposals to build the remaining 18 submarines locally.
However, without experience in building and repairing naval ships, Pipavav, promoted by SKIL Infrastructure Ltd, will have to team up with an experienced shipyard or a technology partner to become eligible to bid for the order. “We need many different things to move forward on this,â€
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Futuristic underwater vehicles for Navy
Hyderabad, March 7 Underwater Autonomous Vehicles (UAVs), which can snoop around in the depths of the ocean, gather data, diffuse mines and keep the country’s coast safe are under development in India.
Nearly 65 industries, large and small have been roped into the development of these futuristic UAVs. The first prototype is expected to be ready by 2009, according to Dr A. Sivathanu Pillai, Chief Controller (R&D), Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO).
A major project for the development of these vehicles has been launched by the Visakhapatnam-based Naval Science and Technology Laboratory (NSTL), one of the chain of 52 national labs under the DRDO.
To be predominantly involved in military applications, these UAVs would basically gather intelligence, hunt for mines and do other specific tasks, said Dr V. Bhujanga Rao, Director, NSTL.
With future wars expected to be dependent on automation, IT & network centric with the least risk to human life, unmanned operations become crucial and will grow, Dr Pillai told Business Line recently.
In tune with these trends, development of unmanned aerial vehicles, pilotless aircraft, more robotic elements coming into play are the thrust areas of advanced countries. India is also into the league with development of such systems.
The UAV is expected to be fitted with sensors to identify mines, cameras to continuously generate visual images. It would also have a robotic arm fixed later, so that it will have the capability to diffuse a mine, once it locates, Dr Bhujanga Rao said.
In the next three to four years, the project is slated to come up with a fully developed capability and induct it into the Indian Navy. Discussions with the industries and institutes involved for long term collaboration, up to production stages were being worked out, Dr Pillai said.
NSTL is involved in development of warship technologies useful for evading detection by enemy ships/submarines. These technologies are aimed for use in modern warships under design and construction.
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New Delhi, March 8: Nallamalli Ranjana recalls a moment at home when her 11-year-old boy was relating his role in a school play, but her mind was immersed elsewhere — in software that guides India’s Agni missile.
Ranjana, head of the software quality and assurance division at the Advanced Systems Laboratory, Hyderabad, leads a team of engineers trying to ensure that each chunk of software code embedded in the missile is error-free throughout its flight.
A two-day conference to showcase cutting edge science by women scientists in India opened here today, providing a rare glimpse of women who are helping build India’s defence and warfare systems. Dividing time between home and the workplace, they are designing combat aircraft, debugging missile control software or developing electronic warfare systems.
“You can feel the thumping of the heart when the missile takes off from the launch pad,â€
New Delhi, March 8: Nallamalli Ranjana recalls a moment at home when her 11-year-old boy was relating his role in a school play, but her mind was immersed elsewhere — in software that guides India’s Agni missile.
Ranjana, head of the software quality and assurance division at the Advanced Systems Laboratory, Hyderabad, leads a team of engineers trying to ensure that each chunk of software code embedded in the missile is error-free throughout its flight.
A two-day conference to showcase cutting edge science by women scientists in India opened here today, providing a rare glimpse of women who are helping build India’s defence and warfare systems. Dividing time between home and the workplace, they are designing combat aircraft, debugging missile control software or developing electronic warfare systems.
“You can feel the thumping of the heart when the missile takes off from the launch pad,â€
Attrition major worry for DRDO labs
M. Somasekhar
Hyderabad, March 10 As India aims high in technology development in the strategic Defence sector, an alarming attrition of its bright, young researchers from its key laboratories stares in its face.
The epicentre for the high turnout is located now in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and partly in New Delhi, where the top laboratories in electronics, missile development, software development etc of the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) are situated.
For the DRDO which has a 7,500 strong scientist base in its 52 lab network, this rising attrition has emerged as a major worry, despite the fact, that the establishment had been attracting large number of youngsters to its labs.
Worry aspect
Why the worry? According to a top Defence scientist, it was true that the DRDO was getting lot of applicants, but at a recent campus recruitment at one of the major IITs, there was just a solitary applicant for a position compared to scores to the big MNC’s that are setting up research and design base in India in aerospace engineering.
Take for example, another instance, where a large laboratory could successfully recruit 20 scientists for its projects, but it suffered an outgo of 25 scientists in the year. The trend is not very encouraging say several Director’s of labs spoken to by Business Line.
What does the Chairman, Recruitment Advisory Committee (RAC), of DRDO, Dr K.V. Raghavan, have to say on this phenomenon?
Yes, the attrition rates are high in electronics, mechanical, computer sciences, aerospace etc. with average ranging between 17-22 per cent. But, well aware of this fact, the DRDO has been recruiting higher numbers in the beginning itself, he said.
Recruitment
Keeping in mind another big challenge confronting the DRDO — nearly 3,000 senior scientists retiring between 2005-10, the organisation has been recruiting an average of 500 scientists since 2002. The strategy is being continued.
The IITs, NITs and the top rung universities are the catchment for the large recruitment of young scientists for the DRDO. In addition to an All-India exam, campus recruitments, video interviews for non-resident Indians (NRIs) and direct hiring are being pursued, he told Business Line.
Initial training
While the DRDO does remain a good draw for the initial grounding, given its rich infrastructure and equipment, the growing worry, is also the exit of scientists with 1-3 years experience, say some Director’s.
This is attributed to the tough selection process and quality training and experience gained by the scientist in DRDO. They become easy targets for MNCs. Asked this question, Dr Raghavan said a career development programme for scientists has been put in place.
This includes external registration for Ph. D. programme. About 75 are selected for Master’s and Ph.D. every year. About 100 are being sent to reputed Indian institutes to do M. Tech also. Next, the awards for young scientists has been increased to 12 now, he added.
The DRDO has also for the first time formulated good recruitment practices (dos and don’ts). This also includes a ‘Virtual committee formation system’, which facilitates the formation of a selection committee depending on the need, Dr Raghavan said.
linkAnother pod unveiled at the show was the Indian SIVA Electronic Support System, developed by the Indian Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE). The pod weighs 100 kg can be carried by the Su-30 aircraft on standard rocket attachment point and is interfacing with the aircraft radar warning systems and avionics. The pod covers a forward arc of 60 degrees and provides target accuracy of 1-2 RMS. The SIVA pod will enable the Indian Air Force to conduct electronic reconnaissance missions and support air defense suppression missions by providing accurate targeting for radar suppression missiles and other guided weapons
Dashing Dhruvs are darling of daring jawans in J&K
Currently, eight helicopters are being operated by the 202 Army squadron at the Manasbal base for various uses.
HAL is also providing full-fledged support to the 202 Squadron at Manasbal by keeping the serviceability percentage at 87.5. As a result,Dhruv has also won accolades for its capabilities whenever it has been utilized for such services."
Said this before, all India needs is whatever AESA radar it can get from the US and the APIs. The latest and greatest would be nice, but not necessary. What is of great importance is that Indian techies be able to develop what India needs and not what foreigners want to sell.sunilUpa wrote:Another pod unveiled at the show was the Indian SIVA Electronic Support System, developed by the Indian Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE). The pod weighs 100 kg can be carried by the Su-30 aircraft on standard rocket attachment point and is interfacing with the aircraft radar warning systems and avionics. The pod covers a forward arc of 60 degrees and provides target accuracy of 1-2 RMS. The SIVA pod will enable the Indian Air Force to conduct electronic reconnaissance missions and support air defense suppression missions by providing accurate targeting for radar suppression missiles and other guided weapons
DEVELOPMENT OF ECM AND RCM BY BEL
Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL), a defence PSU has developed Air Borne Com ECM System for demonstration to IAF. About Rs. 2.5 crores investment was made for the same by BEL through its own fund.
Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL), a defence PSU has developed Air Borne Com ECM System for demonstration to IAF. About Rs. 2.5 crores investment was made for the same by BEL through its own fund.
DRDO turns to NRIs to reverse brain drain
NEW DELHI: Pack your bags, return to India and work in the cutting-edge defence technology arena to bolster the country’s military strength.
Often lambasted for huge time and cost overruns in strategic projects, the Defence Research and Development Organisation now wants to add some solid NRI firepower to its armoury.
After losing close to 1,500 scientists to much greener pastures of corporate world just since 2002, DRDO is stepping up its 'talent search scheme' to lure NRIs into its fold through some 'reverse brain drain'.
The scheme for NRIs, though still in its infancy, has already netted at least 40 PhDs and MTechs working in academics or industry in countries like US, UK, Japan and Sweden.
"We are intensifying the drive. In 2007 alone, we received 150 applications from NRI scientists and engineers and finally picked up 22. The number of applicants is increasing, with the majority coming from US," a top DRDO scientist told TOI on Wednesday.
Defence minister A K Antony, on his part, told Parliament that DRDO, faced with an ‘attrition rate’ of around 7% every year, was now processing applications ‘quickly’ in the NRI talent search scheme.
"They are being interviewed through televideo conferencing for their quick appointment in DRDO. The process is repeated three-four times a year to increase the intake of NRIs," he said.
At present, DRDO has around 6,900 scientists against a sanctioned strength of 7,255. But the greater worry is the ‘quality’ of scientists, with DRDO unable to attract bright youngsters from institutes like IITs in sufficient numbers for its 52 laboratories and establishments across the country.
It hopes to gain some ground through the NRI scheme, both in terms of quantity and quality. "The NRIs bring new knowledge, expertise, work ethic and culture," said the scientist.
But will the scheme attract good talent, considering that those selected will get a carry-home monthly package of just about Rs 35,000 to Rs 45,000? DRDO seems reasonably confident of it.
"NRIs in the 35 to 45 age-group, having worked abroad for 10 or more years, have enough buffer money. If they want to come back to their kith and kin, we can provide them with job satisfaction," said a senior DRDO official.
"We also give value in terms of accommodation, working environment and facilities in our labs, health benefits, pension and the like," he added. Then, of course, DRDO has demanded a ‘performance-based incentive package’ for scientists, over and above the revision in salaries, from the 6th Pay Commission.
This includes proposals like a Rs 10,000 award for every patent being filed or a paper being published in a reputed journal, as also a ‘technology-transfer fee’ for every lab-to-industry transfer.
DRDO scientists say Prime Minister Manmohan Singh himself has promised to them that careers in science will be made ‘more attractive from all perspectives’ to stem brain drain.
Apart from fiscal and career incentives, they say the government is also considering facilitating mobility between institutions, between institutions and academia, as well as from research institutions to the production and marketing sectors.
NEW DELHI: Pack your bags, return to India and work in the cutting-edge defence technology arena to bolster the country’s military strength.
Often lambasted for huge time and cost overruns in strategic projects, the Defence Research and Development Organisation now wants to add some solid NRI firepower to its armoury.
After losing close to 1,500 scientists to much greener pastures of corporate world just since 2002, DRDO is stepping up its 'talent search scheme' to lure NRIs into its fold through some 'reverse brain drain'.
The scheme for NRIs, though still in its infancy, has already netted at least 40 PhDs and MTechs working in academics or industry in countries like US, UK, Japan and Sweden.
"We are intensifying the drive. In 2007 alone, we received 150 applications from NRI scientists and engineers and finally picked up 22. The number of applicants is increasing, with the majority coming from US," a top DRDO scientist told TOI on Wednesday.
Defence minister A K Antony, on his part, told Parliament that DRDO, faced with an ‘attrition rate’ of around 7% every year, was now processing applications ‘quickly’ in the NRI talent search scheme.
"They are being interviewed through televideo conferencing for their quick appointment in DRDO. The process is repeated three-four times a year to increase the intake of NRIs," he said.
At present, DRDO has around 6,900 scientists against a sanctioned strength of 7,255. But the greater worry is the ‘quality’ of scientists, with DRDO unable to attract bright youngsters from institutes like IITs in sufficient numbers for its 52 laboratories and establishments across the country.
It hopes to gain some ground through the NRI scheme, both in terms of quantity and quality. "The NRIs bring new knowledge, expertise, work ethic and culture," said the scientist.
But will the scheme attract good talent, considering that those selected will get a carry-home monthly package of just about Rs 35,000 to Rs 45,000? DRDO seems reasonably confident of it.
"NRIs in the 35 to 45 age-group, having worked abroad for 10 or more years, have enough buffer money. If they want to come back to their kith and kin, we can provide them with job satisfaction," said a senior DRDO official.
"We also give value in terms of accommodation, working environment and facilities in our labs, health benefits, pension and the like," he added. Then, of course, DRDO has demanded a ‘performance-based incentive package’ for scientists, over and above the revision in salaries, from the 6th Pay Commission.
This includes proposals like a Rs 10,000 award for every patent being filed or a paper being published in a reputed journal, as also a ‘technology-transfer fee’ for every lab-to-industry transfer.
DRDO scientists say Prime Minister Manmohan Singh himself has promised to them that careers in science will be made ‘more attractive from all perspectives’ to stem brain drain.
Apart from fiscal and career incentives, they say the government is also considering facilitating mobility between institutions, between institutions and academia, as well as from research institutions to the production and marketing sectors.
This is a great solution to retain talent. Sarkari Salaries can't keep up with economic reality. Performance based incentives aka bonuses are standard practise in corporate world. These bonuses can be tied to successful delivery of product from conceptual stage to delivery of final product to end user. Monetary reward is the greatest motivator."We also give value in terms of accommodation, working environment and facilities in our labs, health benefits, pension and the like," he added. Then, of course, DRDO has demanded a ‘performance-based incentive package’ for scientists, over and above the revision in salaries, from the 6th Pay Commission.
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US firm, Indian CEO admit export of nuclear-linked devices and microprocessors for Tejas
Parthasarathy Sudarshan, the Indian CEO of Cirrus Electronics with offices in the United States, Singapore and India, pleaded guilty in Washington Thursday to a charge of shipping restricted weapons technology to the Indian government.
He admitted exporting controlled microprocessors and electronic components to Indian state entities involved in developing ballistic missiles, space launch vehicles and fighter jets.
Among the recipients were the Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC), an enterprise within the Indian Department of Space; and Bharat Dynamics, Ltd. (BDL), an Indian Defense Ministry enterprise.
Both are on the US Department of Commerce's so-called Entity List. Exports of US-origin commodities to these entities are restricted and require prior authorization in the form of a license from the department.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080314/wl ... yweaponsit>
US firm, Indian CEO admit export of nuclear-linked devices and microprocessors for Tejas
Parthasarathy Sudarshan, the Indian CEO of Cirrus Electronics with offices in the United States, Singapore and India, pleaded guilty in Washington Thursday to a charge of shipping restricted weapons technology to the Indian government.
He admitted exporting controlled microprocessors and electronic components to Indian state entities involved in developing ballistic missiles, space launch vehicles and fighter jets.
Among the recipients were the Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC), an enterprise within the Indian Department of Space; and Bharat Dynamics, Ltd. (BDL), an Indian Defense Ministry enterprise.
Both are on the US Department of Commerce's so-called Entity List. Exports of US-origin commodities to these entities are restricted and require prior authorization in the form of a license from the department.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080314/wl ... yweaponsit>
to the point answer : YES. many people do.Does anyone know if India has any private defense research companies?
sorry 4 the sarcasm.
check http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?t=3757
Ordnance factories to have tech tie-ups with foreign companies
In a departure from the past, Country's major Ordnance factories have been allowed to have advanced technology tie-ups with foreign companies.
The tie-ups have been allowed by the Government to enable these factories to roll out advanced light weight weapons, heavier artillery guns and air defence guns, Defence Minister A K Antony told the Lok Sabha today.
He said Ordnance factories have been allowed to have tie-ups with US Company Flyer Defense for production of advanced rapid rate firing air defence artillery guns.
On similar lines, he said Ordnance factories have been allowed to enter strategic tie-ups with British Aerospace Sweden based SWS Defence under which the Ordnance factories had developed an upgraded version of the 155MM .45 calibre guns.
Antony said Ordnance factories had also linked up with Israeli and Swiss companies for development of specialised weapons systems for the armed forces.
The Minister also said that Ordnance factories had developed a vehicle mounted variant of the 105MM light weight artilley guns in partnership with Tata power.
In a departure from the past, Country's major Ordnance factories have been allowed to have advanced technology tie-ups with foreign companies.
The tie-ups have been allowed by the Government to enable these factories to roll out advanced light weight weapons, heavier artillery guns and air defence guns, Defence Minister A K Antony told the Lok Sabha today.
He said Ordnance factories have been allowed to have tie-ups with US Company Flyer Defense for production of advanced rapid rate firing air defence artillery guns.
On similar lines, he said Ordnance factories have been allowed to enter strategic tie-ups with British Aerospace Sweden based SWS Defence under which the Ordnance factories had developed an upgraded version of the 155MM .45 calibre guns.
Antony said Ordnance factories had also linked up with Israeli and Swiss companies for development of specialised weapons systems for the armed forces.
The Minister also said that Ordnance factories had developed a vehicle mounted variant of the 105MM light weight artilley guns in partnership with Tata power.
HAPP to develop delegate weapons for Navy, IAF
Tiruchirapalli, March 19 The Heavy Alloy Penetrator Project (HAPP) here is all set to develop and produce delegate weapons for the Navy and the Indian Air Force, according to its General Manager R R Yadava.
Talking to newspersons after inaugurating a technical-cum-photo exhibition as part of ordnance factory day-2008 celebrations here last night, he said HAPP was developing anti-submarine naval rockets (RGB-12) to the requirements of the Indian Navy and the production would soon begin. These torpedoes fired from ships, developed in coordination with the Ordnance factory at Kirkee, were hitherto imported from foreign manufacturers.
Mr Yadava said HAPP was in the process of developing Kinetic Energy Projectiles, which could destroy multiple targets. The pre-fragmented ammunition would be the future weapon of armed forces.
He said the next step would be to develop weapons or gadgets meant for the Indian Air Force. For the last few years, HAPP had been supplying Balancing Mass made out of Tungsten Granules for Helicopters produced by the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL). HAPP, in collaboration with the Defence Metallurgic Research Laboratories, Hyderabad, would come out with more futuristic weapons in line with kinetic energy modules, he added.
Regarding civilian applications, Mr Yadava suggested that the manufacturers of lifts and escalators could utilise Tungsten pellets as balance mass instead of the conventional iron masses, thereby reducing the cost and size of operation.
About its future, he said HAPP would introduce Metal Injection Moulding (MIM) technology and HAPP Tiruchirapalli would make a foray into steel powder metallurgy with the advent of MIM.- Bureau Report
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Spoken like a true babu who doesnt have to pay for tungsten at world prices!Regarding civilian applications, Mr Yadava suggested that the manufacturers of lifts and escalators could utilise Tungsten pellets as balance mass instead of the conventional iron masses, thereby reducing the cost and size of operation.
L&T: engineering a major role in defence - Ajai Shukla
There is a Nag missile trial video in this link
There is a Nag missile trial video in this link
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Ajai Shukla's article in todays Business Standard is quite illuminative of what we have been saying in BR all these days. The entire Neta/Babu driven defense procurement is a shambles and the attempts to involve the private sector is a huge smokes and mirrors show. No way in hell that baby and neta monkeys are going to let go of the moolah and the power to dole out pelf and patronage by actually giving the money out to a private guy!. Add the commie overseers driven unions in to the mix and it is no way Jose!.
It goes something like this. L&T along with DRDO developed the Sarvartra bridge layer , that is streets ahead of the existing equipment that India has. It made of aluminum welding (over 1.5km of welding on on bridge) that L&T has (for aluminum you need to to do TIG welding and highly skilled, trained and experienced workmen). The entire thing is mounted on the BEML's Tatra chassis (5 nos or so). All that BEML did was give a couple of Tatra Chassis during development and that is all. They did not put up a paise of risk capital or do anything at all during development. The project is a success and the army wants to order it.. Now however, Babu monkeys and BEML have jumped in and the production order for the Sarvatra bridge layers is to be given to BEML . Why ? Becuase they make the Tatra Chassis!! :eek: .. It seems that BEML also makes the current outdated east european origin bridging equipment and hence... :wink:
If there is a clear case of trying to steer orders to an undeserving parasite, this is it. Can anyone name anything that BEML actually designed by themselves. They are the ultimate screw driver show. Every one of their products (rail cars, trucks, earth movers.. etc) are license assembled and in the same hoary tradition, they want to license assemble Sarvatra..(but they will call it a BEML product all the same). A good instance of the incumbent and useless parasite stealing somebody's efforts and risks and trying to screw them out of the rewards.
If this can happen to a giant firm like L&T with their balance sheet strenght, media relations, their clout in industry and govt, the fate of a small time guy who is innovative and who does anything can well be imagined. The PSU parasites will screw them out if everything and not even pay them fair license fees and compensate them for their risk and innovation. There really is no market for defense in India. I think the private guys are being led in by their nose and will be screwed by those parasites who anyway are playing on a table tilted towards them. You can develop anythign you want. At best, you can get your costs back (not the 5x rewards you expect) , while the cream will get skimmed off by the babu and neta monkeys to be doled out to their patronage networks.
Talk about crony command economy!.
It goes something like this. L&T along with DRDO developed the Sarvartra bridge layer , that is streets ahead of the existing equipment that India has. It made of aluminum welding (over 1.5km of welding on on bridge) that L&T has (for aluminum you need to to do TIG welding and highly skilled, trained and experienced workmen). The entire thing is mounted on the BEML's Tatra chassis (5 nos or so). All that BEML did was give a couple of Tatra Chassis during development and that is all. They did not put up a paise of risk capital or do anything at all during development. The project is a success and the army wants to order it.. Now however, Babu monkeys and BEML have jumped in and the production order for the Sarvatra bridge layers is to be given to BEML . Why ? Becuase they make the Tatra Chassis!! :eek: .. It seems that BEML also makes the current outdated east european origin bridging equipment and hence... :wink:
If there is a clear case of trying to steer orders to an undeserving parasite, this is it. Can anyone name anything that BEML actually designed by themselves. They are the ultimate screw driver show. Every one of their products (rail cars, trucks, earth movers.. etc) are license assembled and in the same hoary tradition, they want to license assemble Sarvatra..(but they will call it a BEML product all the same). A good instance of the incumbent and useless parasite stealing somebody's efforts and risks and trying to screw them out of the rewards.
If this can happen to a giant firm like L&T with their balance sheet strenght, media relations, their clout in industry and govt, the fate of a small time guy who is innovative and who does anything can well be imagined. The PSU parasites will screw them out if everything and not even pay them fair license fees and compensate them for their risk and innovation. There really is no market for defense in India. I think the private guys are being led in by their nose and will be screwed by those parasites who anyway are playing on a table tilted towards them. You can develop anythign you want. At best, you can get your costs back (not the 5x rewards you expect) , while the cream will get skimmed off by the babu and neta monkeys to be doled out to their patronage networks.
Talk about crony command economy!.
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But this article about Sarvatra Bridge Layer from 2002 does not mention L&T anywhere.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... apoor.html
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... apoor.html
sanjaychoudhry wrote:But this article about Sarvatra Bridge Layer from 2002 does not mention L&T anywhere.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... apoor.html
Mot probably L&T joined hands to produce this newer versionDRDO is developing a newer version of the Sarvatra with 20 meter long spans.
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Anyways, here it is Private Sector Woes in Defence Production
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Private sector woes in defence production
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi March 24, 2008
The private sector is playing a growing role in defence production, even though the playing field — when compared with Defence Public Sector Undertakings (DPSUs) — remains far from level.
During the seven years since 2001, when the private sector was first entitled to licences for producing defence equipment, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has officially declared that private defence manufacturers would be supported.
But the gap between rhetoric and reality has proved difficult to bridge. The story of a military assault bridge, ironically, best illustrates the private sector’s challenges.
The Sarvatra Bridge was to allow Indian mechanised forces (strike formations, equipped with 40-tonne tanks and infantrymen travelling in BMP combat vehicles) a quick crossing over canals and rivers that came in their path, in a non-stop advance into the heart of enemy territory.
Carried in five giant, high-mobility Tatra vehicles, and capable of bridging a 75-metre canal or river in less then two hours, the Sarvatra would leave the enemy with little time to side-step their forces to block the Indian advance.
It is a technological leap over what India presently uses, PMS Bridges of East European origin, which is both cumbersome (one set, which bridges a little over 100 metres, is carried on 57 Tatra vehicles) and expensive. A PMS bridge costs Rs 60 crores; the Sarvatra, being indigenous, costs one-third that amount.
But 13 years after the Sarvatra project began, it is mired in an ugly battle over who should manufacture it: L&T, the private company which spearheaded its development; or Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML), the DPSU which insists that they build the Tatra vehicle, so they should build the Sarvatra. The MoD has backed BEML.
The Sarvatra is a Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) project; L&T was closely associated with the difficult work of creating the bridge which opens, scissors-style, across any obstacle. The major engineering task of mounting the bridge on the Tatra vehicle was also done by DRDO, with the assistance of L&T; BEML’s role consisted merely of providing the Tatras on which the Sarvatra is mounted;
DRDO and L&T sources describe the difficulties in the project. The Sarvatra is made of special aluminium, as strong as mild steel; engineering aluminium structures is a crucial L&T specialisation.
Aluminium welding is another L&T strength; each bridge has 1.2 kilometres of welding. In 2002, ahead of time, L&T completed a full Sarvatra bridge, consisting of five bridging vehicles. An impressed MoD asked L&T to build five more full bridges. By 2005, they were ready.
In the Sarvatra programme, there was a heady sense of being on track. With the DRDO satisfied, the army keen on quickly inducting the Sarvatra into service, and L&T ready to execute orders, the stage seemed set for placing an order on L&T. Instead, in 2006, the MoD ruled that BEML would be the nodal agency for manufacturing the Sarvatra.
BEML Deputy General Manager, R Gopinath, told Business Standard, “We made our case before the MoD that we have the expertise to make foldable bridges. We are making the PMS Bridge.â€
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Private sector woes in defence production
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi March 24, 2008
The private sector is playing a growing role in defence production, even though the playing field — when compared with Defence Public Sector Undertakings (DPSUs) — remains far from level.
During the seven years since 2001, when the private sector was first entitled to licences for producing defence equipment, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has officially declared that private defence manufacturers would be supported.
But the gap between rhetoric and reality has proved difficult to bridge. The story of a military assault bridge, ironically, best illustrates the private sector’s challenges.
The Sarvatra Bridge was to allow Indian mechanised forces (strike formations, equipped with 40-tonne tanks and infantrymen travelling in BMP combat vehicles) a quick crossing over canals and rivers that came in their path, in a non-stop advance into the heart of enemy territory.
Carried in five giant, high-mobility Tatra vehicles, and capable of bridging a 75-metre canal or river in less then two hours, the Sarvatra would leave the enemy with little time to side-step their forces to block the Indian advance.
It is a technological leap over what India presently uses, PMS Bridges of East European origin, which is both cumbersome (one set, which bridges a little over 100 metres, is carried on 57 Tatra vehicles) and expensive. A PMS bridge costs Rs 60 crores; the Sarvatra, being indigenous, costs one-third that amount.
But 13 years after the Sarvatra project began, it is mired in an ugly battle over who should manufacture it: L&T, the private company which spearheaded its development; or Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML), the DPSU which insists that they build the Tatra vehicle, so they should build the Sarvatra. The MoD has backed BEML.
The Sarvatra is a Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) project; L&T was closely associated with the difficult work of creating the bridge which opens, scissors-style, across any obstacle. The major engineering task of mounting the bridge on the Tatra vehicle was also done by DRDO, with the assistance of L&T; BEML’s role consisted merely of providing the Tatras on which the Sarvatra is mounted;
DRDO and L&T sources describe the difficulties in the project. The Sarvatra is made of special aluminium, as strong as mild steel; engineering aluminium structures is a crucial L&T specialisation.
Aluminium welding is another L&T strength; each bridge has 1.2 kilometres of welding. In 2002, ahead of time, L&T completed a full Sarvatra bridge, consisting of five bridging vehicles. An impressed MoD asked L&T to build five more full bridges. By 2005, they were ready.
In the Sarvatra programme, there was a heady sense of being on track. With the DRDO satisfied, the army keen on quickly inducting the Sarvatra into service, and L&T ready to execute orders, the stage seemed set for placing an order on L&T. Instead, in 2006, the MoD ruled that BEML would be the nodal agency for manufacturing the Sarvatra.
BEML Deputy General Manager, R Gopinath, told Business Standard, “We made our case before the MoD that we have the expertise to make foldable bridges. We are making the PMS Bridge.â€
DEFCOM INDIA 2008 to discuss technology, anti-technology challenges before defence forces
Tue, Mar 25 04:35 PM
New Delhi, Mar 25 : The industry, academia and the armed forces must converge in order to meet the technology challenges facing the armed forces, especially in the information technology sector, and the upcoming DEFCOM INDIA 2008 seminar and exposition being organized by the Corps of Signals and the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), will go a long way in achieving this, claimed Lt. Gen. S P Sree Kumar, Signal Officer-in-Chief, Integrated Headquarters of the Ministry of Defence (Army), in New Delhi today.
Releasing a brochure on DEFCOM INDIA 2008 at an interactive session here, he said the international seminar and expo on May 27 and 28 this year would focus on technology and anti-technology challenges before the defence forces.
This international seminar and exposition is the seventh in a series of annual Defence Communication Seminars - 'DEFCOM' that aim to provide a platform for continued synergy between the Armed Forces and the Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Industry.
"DEFCOM is an excellent step in the right direction. This convergence to discuss requirements and capabilities in a focused forum gives a platform for professionals from the industry, both public and private sectors, academia, governance and the users, the armed forces, to come together," Lt. Gen. Sree Kumar said.
Keeping in mind how the armed forces are going ahead, their technology induction is moving ahead at a fast pace. The armed forces are looking forward to discussing technology induction and development to keep pace with the ICT revolution in military affairs, he added.
Defence communication industry is growing by leaps and bounds and the upcoming expo will showcase information technology and solutions for the Defence Forces, said Ashok Kanodia, chairman, CII Defence Committee on IT and Communication and Managing Director, Precision Electronics Ltd.
DEFCOM is a forum in which the Armed Forces highlight their peculiar ICT requirement so that the industry can align their policies and products to be able to provide best possible solutions for the Armed Forces.
Tue, Mar 25 04:35 PM
New Delhi, Mar 25 : The industry, academia and the armed forces must converge in order to meet the technology challenges facing the armed forces, especially in the information technology sector, and the upcoming DEFCOM INDIA 2008 seminar and exposition being organized by the Corps of Signals and the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), will go a long way in achieving this, claimed Lt. Gen. S P Sree Kumar, Signal Officer-in-Chief, Integrated Headquarters of the Ministry of Defence (Army), in New Delhi today.
Releasing a brochure on DEFCOM INDIA 2008 at an interactive session here, he said the international seminar and expo on May 27 and 28 this year would focus on technology and anti-technology challenges before the defence forces.
This international seminar and exposition is the seventh in a series of annual Defence Communication Seminars - 'DEFCOM' that aim to provide a platform for continued synergy between the Armed Forces and the Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Industry.
"DEFCOM is an excellent step in the right direction. This convergence to discuss requirements and capabilities in a focused forum gives a platform for professionals from the industry, both public and private sectors, academia, governance and the users, the armed forces, to come together," Lt. Gen. Sree Kumar said.
Keeping in mind how the armed forces are going ahead, their technology induction is moving ahead at a fast pace. The armed forces are looking forward to discussing technology induction and development to keep pace with the ICT revolution in military affairs, he added.
Defence communication industry is growing by leaps and bounds and the upcoming expo will showcase information technology and solutions for the Defence Forces, said Ashok Kanodia, chairman, CII Defence Committee on IT and Communication and Managing Director, Precision Electronics Ltd.
DEFCOM is a forum in which the Armed Forces highlight their peculiar ICT requirement so that the industry can align their policies and products to be able to provide best possible solutions for the Armed Forces.