Internal Security Watch

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 02 Feb 2009 13:59

Ottawa using intervention to extinguish Muslim extremism

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1237450

The government has been using "counter-radicalization techniques" to steer Canadian Muslims away from extremism, according to a secret intelligence report obtained by the National Post.

The document outlines a little-known, government-wide, counter-radicalization strategy that aims to prevent al-Qaeda-inspired terrorists such as the London transit bombers from emerging within Canada.

PS:The need for a National Identiy Card and number that will hold good for all administrative requirements is long overdue.Even little Lanbka has an NIC for its population.Despite possessing a passport,PAN card,driving licence whatever,the most important possession today is the so-called "RTation Card",or "Family Card",which the authorities consider more sacred than even a Birth Certificate! Without this bleedin' relic from the colonial days,one does not exist or can get a whole range of important documents ranging from a passport,voters identity card,etc.To complicate matters,even these cards are full of errors and make a mockery of the system.How the GOI/Admin are going to reconcile all these discrepancies in formulating an NIC beats me!

ajay_ijn · Post by **ajay_ijn** » 02 Feb 2009 20:25

IndiGo hijack alert tests India's anti-terror setup

New Delhi: It was 1700 hrs (IST) when the pilot of an IndiGo Airlines aircraft, flight no E-664 from Delhi to Goa sent out a distress signal over Jaipur and sought priority landing. He also asked the ATC to move him to a discreet radio frequency, a procedure followed in Hijack situations.

The pilot told the ATC through the secure line that three people were acting suspiciously. Police sources said out of the three one was drunk and misbehaved with the airhostesses. They also threatened to hijack the aircraft.

The pilot then asked for armed support from on the ground. At 1730 hrs the aircraft landed at Delhi only to be taken to an isolated slot. Quick response teams of the CISF, police and the NSG immediately surrounded the aircraft.

Considering the high alert in the country no one wanted to take any chances.

It took over two hours for the security forces to clear the aircraft. Passengers were finally freed after a thorough check and Home Minister P Chidambaram hasn't ruled out a hijack threat.

"We don't know if it was a hijack. There were 163 passengers and six crew members. Three have been detained, we have names but unless they are interrogated and their identity is established we cannot release the names. All passengers are safe. They have been given refreshments and I believe they have now been allowed to go home," Chidambaram told CNN-IBN.

The anti-hijack machinery of the government was put to test. Those responsible for quick action proved that they were prepared to meet any eventuality. Even the Committee of Secretaries on Anti-Hijacking' was quick to meet to discuss the issue.

Indigo Airlines said its pilot followed the procedure and issued the alert when some passengers created trouble.

The suspects were identified as Sameer, Jeetendra and Hardeep. By late evening, the other two allowed to leave, only Jeetendra was detained by the police for interrogation.

Jeetendra was to be produced in the court on Monday.

sum · Post by **sum** » 03 Feb 2009 09:33

Bit off topic but:

Arrested for attacking cop

Waseem, working at a scrap metal shop in Govindanagar, Frazer Town, has been arrested for attacking Head Constable Thimme Gowda.

On January 30, Thimme Gowda, while on duty at Nethaji Circle, stopped Waseem and two of his friends for riding on a two-wheeler. Irked over the head constable’s warning Waseem had stabbed him and fled the scene.

Hadn't a similar incident lead to the Coimbatore riots and subsequent bombings in 98?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 03 Feb 2009 10:28

Hurriyat feels recession heat, lays off staff

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news ... ff/418218/

I hope all the Hurri Rat's and thier staff strve to death, bloody beggars

Anabhaya · Post by **Anabhaya** » 03 Feb 2009 15:20

sum wrote:Hadn't a similar incident lead to the Coimbatore riots and subsequent bombings in 98?

Waseem must be having something to tell the pandus now.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 04 Feb 2009 01:17

Lost war - Thank M.K.Narayanan for losing the battle against Pakistani terrorism, says N.V.Subramanian.

The first choice for NSA in Manmohan Singh's government was J.N.Dixit, a former foreign secretary and old Pakistan/ Sri Lanka hand. Narayanan was concurrently appointed internal security advisor in the PMO, to which position he would at least be technically qualified as a former DIB. From inside accounts, Dixit and Narayanan did not hit it off, and Narayanan was ambitious for Dixit's job, which he got when the former foreign secretary passed away in office. (There are media stories about his death but let us skip that.)

Narayanan does not understand strategic issues. He carried early to his job the IB's traditional animus towards RAW, which lead him to handpick a malleable and ineffectual chief for it. He was one of those squarely responsible for making India a soft state leading up to the Bombay massacre. And he has continued fixing for the Congress party and particularly 10, Janpath.

The last is the most compelling reason why Narayanan cannot be sacked. Narayanan is by no means the only 10 Janpath appointee parked in the PMO. There are others, and the capital is full of stories about them. But, clearly, he holds the most sensitive, national-security job of them all. Because he is a political official, a sort of commissar, he is more into spinning than being NSA, an in-fighter, a score-settler, a turf-expander. The result is Bombay.

M.K.Narayanan has a habit of shooting his mouth off. He has embarrassed the government on several earlier occasions. At the Munich security conference in 2007, he said terrorists were manipulating the Bombay and Madras stock exchanges, leaving the government red-faced. On Pakistan, he has been particularly free with his comments. To a Singapore newspaper last August, he spoke of a "political vacuum" in Pakistan if (the then president) Parvez Musharraf were impeached. He should have been better occupied grappling with post-Musharraf terror fallouts on India, which Bombay shows that he wasn't.
Post-Bombay, he has combusted such moth-eaten coercive diplomacy as India and Pranab Mukherjee were capable of, by contradicting the foreign minister on a point of Pakistan's seriousness in investigating the attack. Narayanan told a TV channel that Pakistan had returned queries related to the Indian dossier on Bombay, which revealed seriousness on its part.

But a day before, Mukherjee said Pakistan had not responded to the Indian dossier and expressed frustration at Pakistan speaking through the media. Is this a case of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing, or is Narayanan acting on instructions to embarrass the foreign minister?

Either way, consider the war against Pakistani terrorism lost even before it was waged.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Feb 2009 01:30

Any ideas why MKN is so ineffective? looks like everythign he touches turns into mud. All this despite M.K. Dhar writing glowing reports about how MKN brought modernization into IB etc. Was he an example of Peter principle?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Feb 2009 02:03

There was rumor that Congres's brief is to weaken various Instituions holding India together and party might have deputed their hitmen to achive this.Lately we are hearing all the bad news on security front and now CEC dispute about Party appointed corrupt official to damage democratic process of election . MMS must be a helpless person in his own office that he cannot even fire MKN on incompetence basis.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 05 Feb 2009 22:39

'HIJACK' put war jets on hot pursuit
By: Anshuman G Dutta Date: 2009-02-05
Mid-day

Smarter after Kandahar, pilots took off minutes into Sunday's air scare; asked to stop plane from leaving Indian airspace

ON Sunday evening, as the 163 panic-stricken passengers of the Indigo flight E664 prayed to be rescued from the mid-air "hijack" drama, unknown to them, fighter jets of the Indian Air Force stealthily shadowed their aircraft. The pilots of the jets had clear instructions to keep the "hijacked" plane within Indian airspace to avoid a Kandahar-like situation.

The jets, which had flown from various air bases in western India, had started trailing the Indigo aircraft within minutes of the Air Traffic Control in Delhi relaying the message of the alleged hijack bid.

"All the regular precautionary measures of a hijack situation were taken. Details of the measures can not be revealed as that may jeopardise future operations," said the Indian Air Force (IAF) spokesperson, Wing Commander Mahesh Upasani.

However, highly-placed sources in the Ministry of Defence confirmed that the IAF had immediately asked the fighters to respond to any "emergency". "Clear instructions were given to the pilots to keep the hijacked plane within Indian airspace," said an IAF officer, wishing anonymity.

According to security experts, the usual precautionary measures taken by the IAF in an air hijack situation include scrambling of jets (fighters taking off in a hurry) to tail the suspected craft and prevent it from leaving the country's airspace. "The regular drill involves scrambling fighters from nearby bases.

A plane hijacked over Delhi can take any route. It can leave the Indian airspace or can even attempt a suicide mission by targeting important sites in and around the Capital like the Parliament House. If an aircraft turns hostile it may also be shot down," said a defence analyst, Wing Commander (Retd) Praful Bakshi.

But Bakshi doubted that the fighters on Sunday were asked to shoot down the Indigo aircraft if it made a suicide attempt. "I doubt India has adopted the policy of shooting down a civil aircraft in such a scenario. Fighters are scrambled to force the plane to land and that assures that it remains within safe limits," he added.

Senior defence analyst Major General (Retd) Sheru Thapliyal said that scrambling of fighter jets is the most important step to control a hijack bid. "Unfortunately, this did not happen when the Indian Airlines flight IC-814 was hijacked in 1999. The hijackers had managed to force the plane to cross Indian airspace. It landed at Kandahar in Afghanistan. Jets should be sent up even if there is a hijack scare," said Thapliyal.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 05 Feb 2009 23:13

More financial powers to intelligence brass post Mumbai attack.

Rattled by the Mumbai terror attacks, the Union Home Ministry has "significantly" increased financial powers of top brass of intelligence agencies and paramilitary forces to enable speedy procurement of necessary equipment.

"The financial powers delegated to the DGs and Special DGs of the CPMFs and the Director, IB have been significantly enhanced. This will enable the heads of these organisations to speedily procure vehicles, arms and ammunition, stores, machinery and equipment, clothing and tentage...," Union Home Minister P Chidambaram said here on Saturday.

The delegation of financial powers has already come into effect with the authorisation of the Director General of BSF and CRPF to float a global tender for the procurement of 5.56 mm carbines needed by their forces, he said.

"The Ministry has already given nod to proposals worth Rs 184.72 crores for creation of infrastructure in the Central Paramilitary Forces (CPMF)," he said.

To minimise the loss of life among the security personnel in the event of any Mumbai terror attack like situation, Centre is procuring 20,000 bullet-proof jackets on "emergent" basis.

"Orders were placed on January 16 to procure 20,000 bullet proof jackets on an emergent basis. Delivery will be completed by April 16," the Home Minister said.

He said CPMFs have been instructed to submit their procurement plans for the next year by February 28 so that sanctions can be accorded before March 31 and procurement could begin at the start of the new financial year.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 06 Feb 2009 02:16

From Daily Pionner, posting in full as it isn't archived...

Govt names favourites for key posts in sensitive agencies

Govt names favourites for key posts in sensitive agencies

Rakesh K Singh | New Delhi

Two months after the Mumbai terror attack, the Government’s resolve to strengthen the security apparatus has remained a non-starter, with the Centre trying to accommodate its ‘favourites’ on sensitive posts.

RV Raju, a 1975-batch IPS officer of Jammu & Kashmir cadre, has been made the first chief of the newly-created National Investigation Agency (NIA) for a period of one year. Raju was scheduled to retire in July-end, but his tenure has been increased by six months.

Senior IPS officials say that a person with an extended tenure could have served the purpose better for establishing a new organisation like the NIA. The decision has caused resentment among senior IPS officers who were eying the post. The three officers short-listed for the post were AP Singh of Jharkhand cadre, now serving as ADG in the BSF, and Karam Veer Singh and SC Sinha, both of the 1975 batch.

Another key appointment made after the Mumbai attack is that of Secretary of the prime external intelligence agency, Research & Analysis Wing (RAW). KC Verma, the Internal Security Adviser to Home Minister P Chidambaram, was cleared for appointment as chief of RAW for two years.

Verma, a 1971-batch Jharkhand cadre IPS officer, had voluntarily left the Intelligence Bureau, according to intelligence sources. Verma was to superannuate in August this year, but the Centre has extended his tenure for two years, till January 2011.

Former Director of Intelligence Bureau PC Haldar, who retired on December 31 last year, has been cleared for appointment as a member of the Special Task Force on Terrorism. The task force is headed by SD Pradhan, a non-IPS officer who had retired as chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) after serving it for three years on extension. Following his retirement from JIC, Pradhan has again been given a two-year extension for his latest assignment.

Haldar has already served 23 months of extended service as the Director of IB (DIB). He was superannuating from service on January 31, 2007, but was promoted as DIB from January 1, 2007, and retired on December 31 last year.

Had Haldar retired from service on time, RK Das (IPS) could have served as DIB, a serving official said, explaining the frustration being faced by such officers.

Likewise, former CBI Director Vijay Shankar Tiwari has been appointed a member of the Centre-State Relations Commission. Two other retired IPS officers — KM Singh and JK Sinha — have also been serving as members of the Disaster Management Authority after their retirement from service.

Senior IPS officials feel professional standing and longer tenure of serving officers is being given a go-by through such appointments, which is leading to a demoralised work force in key agencies.

Interestingly, the then Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil was removed from office after the audacious Mumbai terror attack for “lack of leadership qualities” but, instead of being held accountable for the failure of intelligence, the then IB chief Haldar is being re-employed by the Government for an anti-terror job.

“Instead of fixing accountability upon officials who failed in developing pinpoint intelligence before the Mumbai attack, they are being given post-retirement employment. Such a trend only sags the morale of younger officials,” a senior IPS official, who has served for a long spell with the IB, said.

Following the Mumbai incident, the Government had probably for the first time appointed Special Secretary of IB Rajiv Mathur as the Officer on Special Duty due to lack of confidence in the then DIB Haldar.

The Government has admitted that the spurt in terror strikes during the UPA regime at the Centre has been due to intelligence failures and measures are now being taken to strengthen the same. However, only 3,500 to 4,000 staff of the 28,000 IB personnel is on field duties. This comes in spite of the emphasis for toning up the human intelligence (HUMINT) network despite reliance on the technical intelligence (TECHINT).

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 06 Feb 2009 02:17

NIA yet to commence work for lack of Central guidelines

NIA yet to commence work for lack of Central guidelines

Rakesh Singh | New Delhi

The much-touted National Investigation Agency is yet to begin operations since the Centre has not framed policy guidelines for its functioning, including rules for recruitment.

Apart from Director General RV Raju who joined as Director General of NIA last month, no other staff has been recruited till date. Even proper office space is yet to be allocated to the agency, and the DG is operating from a room at the SSB headquarters here.

After taking over as DG of NIA, Raju had said he would immediately get down to the task of forming a core team of eligible police officers with experience in handling investigations of terrorist cases, whether at the Centre or in States.

The work of preparation of NIA rules, including Recruitment Rules, was supposed to be taken up urgently as the selection and recruitment of officials is a cumbersome and time-consuming process. Officers will be appointed to NIA on deputation basis, official sources said.

Recruitment of officials entails preparation of a list of candidates with relevant experience and background and request by the Centre to the States for relieving the short-listed officers.

The very first choice put forward by Raju has resulted in a controversy of North-South divide. With Raju himself being an IPS officer of Kerala cadre, selection of LN Behra, another officer of that cadre, into the agency fold is being viewed unfavourably in official quarters, a source said.

Raju has a tenure of one year till January 31, 2010 and more than a month has elapsed after the NIA Bill got an ascent from the President.

Post-Mumbai attacks, the UPA government moved swiftly for setting up of the federal agency for probing terror crimes. Several states, including some Congress-ruled ones, had opposed the setting up of such an agency on the ground that “police” and “public order” were the responsibility of the states, according to the State List of the Constitution.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 06 Feb 2009 04:26

If anyone knows, How can a fighter jet keep hijacked plane within the Indian airspace other than by threatening to shoot it down.
Has the GOI got the b@lls to shoot down its own civilian plane or is it just posturing ?

sum · Post by **sum** » 06 Feb 2009 10:01

However, only 3,500 to 4,000 staff of the 28,000 IB personnel is on field duties. This comes in spite of the emphasis for toning up the human intelligence (HUMINT) network despite reliance on the technical intelligence (TECHINT).

I think this anomaly was being rectified with express recruitment of 3K-4K new agents immediately after 26/11

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 06 Feb 2009 10:32

VikasRaina wrote:If anyone knows, How can a fighter jet keep hijacked plane within the Indian airspace other than by threatening to shoot it down.Has the GOI got the b@lls to shoot down its own civilian plane or is it just posturing?

Policy change when it comes to dealing with hijackers is old news. The only option is to shoot it down or disable the plane when it lands for refuelling.

Hijacked plane can be shot down
15 Aug 2005, 0037 hrs IST, TNN
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 200800.cms

NEW DELHI: Four years after al-Qaida operatives turned planes into missiles and wounded the US, India has decided to adopt stricter anti-hijacking norms which allow shooting down a “hostile” plane if there is conclusive evidence that it is being used to blow up strategic establishments.

"The 9/11 attacks have changed the way the world looked at terrorism. Those attacks made the world realise that even commercial jets could be used as missiles and we have reviewed our anti-hijack norms to meet any such eventuality in the Indian skies," a senior government official said.

The anti-hijack policy — cleared by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) last week — rules out negotiations with hijackers on their demands and makes it clear that talks would only be aimed at preventing loss of life or ending the incident.

"Any attempt to hijack a plane will be treated as an act of aggression against the country, and no negotiations will be held on the demands of the hijackers. Negotiations, if any, will only be tactical and demands of the hijackers will not be considered if it has an impact on national security," the official said.

Outlining the measures, defence minister Pranab Mukherjee said if any hijacking took place on Indian soil, the aircraft would be immobilised and not allowed to take off.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 07 Feb 2009 18:27

Govt to induct Dhruv choppers to carry forces.

As a part of the measures to augment the response of security forces post 26/11, the Union home ministry has decided to induct eight ‘Dhruv’ Advanced Light Helicopters by next month for quick mobilisation of forces to deal with any emergency in the country at short notice.

These helicopters will be located at four cities — Jammu, Delhi , Guwahati and Patna — and will be available for paramilitary forces, including the elite anti-terror National Security Guard (NSG) as well as the state police.

A number of Dhruv ALHs — having capabilities for heli-borne assault, logistic support, reconnaissance , training and casualty evacuation — are currently being used by Army, Air Force and Coast Guard. A senior home ministry official said that the decision to induct the eight Dhruv ALHs was taken recently in a high-level meeting chaired by cabinet secretary K M Chandrasekhar over measures to be taken for “augmenting and equipping a streamlined anti-terrorist force”.

“Initially, two Dhruv ALHs each will be stationed in the four cities. Later, more cities will get those helicopters,” said the official . Since the ministry does not have available infrastructure for operationalizing the Dhruv fleet at designated bases, it was decided to first use the hangars of BSF and other agencies.

Sources in the ministry said that though Jammu, Delhi and Guwahati would not have a problem in having the hangars, the government was currently exploring different options for the induction at Patna. One of the options is to first operationalise it from Ranchi using the Coal India Ltd hangar till such time as infrastructure is created at Patna , they added.

The places for locating the helicopters have been selected after several rounds of consultations with NSG and other agencies. In Delhi, the two ALHs will initially be located near the NSG headquarters at the newly-acquired site along the airport.

The Dhruv ALH is designed and developed by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. It is a unique multirole, state-of-the-art , costeffective helicopter having a passenger capacity of 12.

sum · Post by **sum** » 07 Feb 2009 18:47

Good work if true:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/9_he ... 092512.cms

9 held in 2008 Bangalore blasts case: Police

NEW DELHI: Nine persons have been arrested in connection with last year's Bangalore serial blasts, police commissioner Shankar Bidari said on
Saturday.

With these arrests, the police commissioner declared the serial blasts case solved.
A series of nine bombs rocked Bangalore on July 25, 2008, killing at least two and injuring more than 20 persons.
All the nine are from Kerala, Shankar Bidari told reporters here.

Abdul Sattar, Abdul Jabbar, Sarfudin, Sakariya from Mallapuram, Kerala and Mujeeb, Faizal, Abdul Jaleel, Manaf of Kannur, and Badruddin from Ernakulum have been arrested for their alleged involvement in the July 2008 blasts, Reported PTI quoting DGP Ajai Kumar Singh said.

Four others involved in the blasts were killed in an encounter with the Indian army in Jammu and Kashmir while they were attempting to crossover to Pakistan between October 4 and 7. They were identified as Abdul Raheem, son-in-law of Sattar, Mohammad Fyas, Fayis and Mohammad Yasin from Kerala, he said.

Police, however, did not reveal the name of the group they belonged to. Police also did not divulge anything regarding its association to any militant outfits like Lakshar-e-Toiba.

The module was "radicalised by general feeling of perceived injustice to Muslims in India due to Babri Masjid demolition and Godhra incident and Gujarat riots," the police officer said.

They decided (to trigger blasts) on Bangalore due to the iconic status it acquired after the IT boom and the economic prosperity and that it was BJP-ruled, they said.

Good that atleast the police of one state is doing solid work and then breaking the news instead of running to the media at the drop of a hat.

Tilak · Post by **Tilak** » 07 Feb 2009 20:49

Crackdown on Indian insurgent camps in Bangladesh, rebels say

Three People's Liberation Army (PLA) militants, including a woman, told BSF interrogators that Bangladesh security agencies had raided camps of the Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL) and United National Liberation Front (UNLF) located at the Chittagong Hill Tracts a few weeks ago.

The sources, quoting the militants, said a few years ago the PLA had about 15,00 cadre in the Khoya camp in the CHT, but their number has been reduced to 50 now.

As PLA had maintained 'good relations' with 'certain Bangladesh agencies', they still had a camp in the area. The three PLA activists Vinod (15), Narayan Singh (25) and Mema (48) were arrested by the BSF near Beltoli in Meghalaya's East Khasi Hills district on Tuesday when they were trying to cross the international border.

sum · Post by **sum** » 09 Feb 2009 14:14

Link

Bangalore blast accused helped recruits train in Pakistan: police

G. Anand

They belonged to the now defunct Islamic Seva Sangh and forged links with Lashkar-e-Taiba

Four of the five they sent to Pakistan for training were shot dead by the Army last year

Thiruvananthapuram: The ideological roots of the Keralites charged with triggering explosions in Bangalore, Surat and Hyderabad last year could be traced to the now defunct Islamic Seva Sangh (ISS), a cadre organisation formed in Kerala in the 1990s.

Kerala police officials said they were yet to find any evidence linking the suspects “operationally” to the proscribed Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) or its suspected front organisations.

The ex-ISS men had on their own attempted to link “Jihadist minded” Malayalam-speaking Muslim youth with the Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistan-based terrorist organisation, for martial training and indoctrination.

They said the suspects used the cover of a predominantly Sufi religious body based in Hyderabad, Nooreshah Thareeqat, to bring impressionable Muslim youth into their radical path. Nazir, 35, son of a rich businessman in Kannur, was one of the principal recruiters. The police said he was one of the “six central figures” responsible for “inspiring and helping” five Muslim men from Kerala to cross over to Pakistan from Kashmir last year to be trained by the LeT.

The Indian Army killed four of them. The fifth, Jabbar, who survived the Army ambush, was arrested by the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) of the Kerala police from Hyderabad recently.

The Karnataka police are now questioning him in connection with the Bangalore blast case. Jabbar told his interrogators that the LeT operatives trained him for a week in Kashmir and later armed him with an AK-47 assault rifle for making the cross over to Pakistan. The LeT handlers, he said, ridiculed him about his dark complexion and South Indian origin. {serves the SDRE scum right}

Abdul Sattar alias Sainudeen, the main suspect in the Bangalore blast case, harboured the five men in Hyderabad and his ISS associate, Abdul Hameed alias Amir Ali, helped them in New Delhi on their journey to Pakistan through the Kashmir valley.

Abdul Hameed, a Karate instructor and ISS strong man, fled Kerala in 2000 after the police charged him with plotting the murder of the then Chief Minister E. K. Nayanar for arresting Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) leader Abdul Nassar Mahdhani. He assumed the name of Amir Ali in New Delhi, acquired a voter’s identity card under that name. The JIT traced him in New Delhi. Its undercover members travelled with him on a train to Kerala and arrested him when they arrived at the Kasargode railway station.
{Good work by the "agencies"}
The Kerala police have arrested 12 persons, mostly former ISS men, in connection with the conspiracy to send men for training in Pakistan.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 09 Feb 2009 16:20

As far as I know, KP is pretty good at this sh1t... bugger should be singing in soprano by now

aditya · Post by **aditya** » 09 Feb 2009 17:45

You mean, singing in tar saptak.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 09 Feb 2009 19:06

Lashkar takes roots in God's own country

The Karnataka police may have cracked the Bangalore blasts case, but it has also revealed the functioning of a deadly Kerala [Images] module.

Rediff.com has learnt that Abdul Sattar, one of the men arrested in connection with the serial blasts case, told interrogators that it was the Lashkar-e-Tayiba's [Images] Kerala module -- managed by the absconding Riyaz Bhatkal -- which carried out the attack in Bangalore and the aborted assault on Surat [Images].

Intelligence Bureau agents told rediff.com that Kerala is a hot bed for terror-related activities and for the Lashkar, it has been the gateway to south India.

I am from Malappuram onlee and always knew this had to come out in the open one day. Folks this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 09 Feb 2009 20:04

Naxals kill 9 cops in Bihar

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 09 Feb 2009 20:10

Dilbu wrote:I am from Malappuram onlee and always knew this had to come out in the open one day. Folks this is only the tip of the iceberg.

We can only blame the so called "secular" governments in Kerala for creating this mess. There are various places like Chettipadi (near Parappanangadi, in Malappuram Dt) which is like a de-facto terrorist training centre. For quite some time fanatic elements amongst Muslims were treated with kid's gloves and this is what finally happens.

The worst case I remember is a state minister from Muslim League ordering K.P to give full state escort to two Arabs. Both these fellows were wanted by the IB, and were supposed to be picked up as soon as they landed any where in India.

Then there was also a case of a Muslim terror outfit (NDF??) having a pretty much parallel setup like the state police. This gang was based out of a place near Kodungallur, Thrissur Dt. When this gang was busted, their operative tactics caused much alarms in the state police. The Inspector who handled this case, surprizingly was never heard off. I don't mean he was killed or any thing like that, but the officer just faded away. Most likely he may be some one from IB/RAW etc.

sum · Post by **sum** » 09 Feb 2009 20:13

I am from Malappuram onlee and always knew this had to come out in the open one day. Folks this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Wnder what reason do the "secularists" have for a place like kerala to tun a hotbed?

IIRC, the IMs/KMs there are treated like Kings and wield more power than the Arab Sheikhs in their own Kingdoms.

It is the non-muslims who live in fear, there is no trace of poverty and still we have only Kerala Muslims turning Jihadis. Would love to hear the reasons for this in NDTV/Chindu etc?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 09 Feb 2009 20:21

sum wrote:It is the non-muslims who live in fear, there is no trace of poverty and still we have only Kerala Muslims turning Jihadis. Would love to hear the reasons for this in NDTV/Chindu etc?

Yes, I would also like to get the answer for this million dollar question. Kerala Muslims have been treated with kid's gloves by all political outfits in Kerala. Congress and the commies fall all over each other in introducing schemes after schemes for minority welfare (appeasement). Now even after all this if Keralite Muslims are becoming Jehadis it is nothing but indoctrination etc. etc.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 10 Feb 2009 00:42

More to the Spy Birds' than what meets the eye?

2 suspected Al-Badr men seek discharge on basis of CBI report

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Feb 2009 04:36

ramana wrote:Any ideas why MKN is so ineffective? looks like everythign he touches turns into mud. All this despite M.K. Dhar writing glowing reports about how MKN brought modernization into IB etc. Was he an example of Peter principle?

An apt name for him would be Neroyanan!

He fiddles while Mumbai burns.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 10 Feb 2009 04:52

FBI woman sexually harassed me: 26/11 accused

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 10 Feb 2009 11:40

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ebook.html

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 12 Feb 2009 00:09

SIM cards continue to help J-K militants
Lashkar Commander Yahya arrested in Bangladesh
Indo-Bangladesh border sealed? It's a big joke

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 12 Feb 2009 03:34

‘Brainwashed with Iraq, Babri, Gujarat riots’

Cabinet clears changes to money laundering Act

sum · Post by **sum** » 12 Feb 2009 11:00

RaviBg wrote:‘Brainwashed with Iraq, Babri, Gujarat riots’

How many more days will we keep hearing this load of cr@p? Im sure that the same reasons will be cited in 3000 AD when the next jihadi blows up a city.

By that logic, every victim/relative of victim of these bombings should have gone on a muslim slaughtering spree by now...

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 12 Feb 2009 22:24

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Loca ... 120290.cms

Mumbai police admit local support for Mumbai attack

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Didn't the stupid CON party Home minister (useless Chidambaram) castigate Modi for saying this yesterday? What kind of buffoons we haev>

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 12 Feb 2009 22:43

The kind which puts party affiliations before the national one.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Feb 2009 22:56

Armed forces reeject plan for NSG hubs

Armed forces blow holes in Govt plan for NSG hubs across India

Rahul Datta | New Delhi

The armed forces are not impressed with the Government’s proposal to set up NSG hubs across the country. They have conveyed to the Union Home Ministry that there was no need for such facilities in cities where Special Forces were already deployed. Sources said the armed forces have said that Special Forces jawans were well equipped and trained to deal with any Mumbai-like emergency situation.

The armed forces conveyed this to the Home Ministry during regular meetings in the wake of the Mumbai terror attacks in November last year. Explaining the rationale behind this suggestion, they said the setting up of the NSG hubs would take time and money and, in the interim, the Special Forces could shoulder the responsibility of dealing with such incidents.

In fact, the whole idea behind this proposal was to mesh the existing resources of the armed forces to meet any exigency posing threat to internal security without any red tape and well-defined standard operating procedures and chain of command, they said.

Giving instances, they said the Special Forces were deployed in Jammu & Kashmir and the north-east and in case of a Mumbai-type emergency, they could be pressed into service in their area of operation. The Special Forces commandos were also trained in hostage rescue, breaking into buildings and conducting operations on hostile terrain.

These skills were imparted besides their primary role of destroying strategic targets behind enemy lines and crippling the war-waging potential of the adversary by crippling his logistics lines by blowing up bridges, ammunition depots, air fields and communication systems, they said.

Bangalore was another major centre where there was little need for setting up a NSG hub as the airborne troops or paratroops were trained at the Parachute School there. The campus imparted training in all aspects of commando-style operations, including para-jumping with full load of weapons and ammunition, and they could respond to any eventuality in and around the city and in south India in the shortest possible time.

Similarly, Agra was another major centre for training of paratroopers and the trained professionals could be rushed to any crisis point all over UP and central India. In fact, they maintained that there was little need for the NSG at Mumbai also because the Navy's training school for Marine Commandos (MARCOS) was located near the city. The MARCOS were the first to engage the terrorists holed up inside the Taj Hotel on November 26 till the time the NSG commandos arrived from Delhi after a couple of hours.

Sources said the creation of infrastructure for the hubs required funds and time and ad hoc deployments would not serve any purpose.

Elaborating upon this aspect, they said the commandos had to undergo rigorous training to retain that crucial edge over the adversary and the drill had to go on throughout the year. Therefore, the hubs had to have all these training facilities or else the commandos would not be able to maintain peak physical condition and fighting tactics, sources said.

Incidentally, the training school for the Special Forces is located in Nahan near Chandigarh with state-of-the-art facilities, which were comparable to those available in the US, Israel and some other countries. These facilities included firing ranges for highly sophisticated weapons, diving, physical and psychological conditioning and training in the use of communication systems, including satellite-based equipment.

Highlighting the standard of the school and profile of the elite force, sources said the rejection rate was more than 90 per cent as most officers and men who wished to join the Special Forces could not cope with the harsh training. They also said the Indian Special Forces commandos, who took part in the joint exercises with their counterparts in the US and UK, were found to extremely talented and skilful and came out with top honours in the last four-five years.

As regards to the profile of the NSG and the Special Forces, they said the officers and men drawn from the Army and para-military forces served a stipulated number of years in the NSG.

Admitting the fact that the selection process in the NSG for these volunteers was very gruelling, sources, however, said the soldiers served their lifetime in the Special Forces; thereby leading to a bond and imbibing the ethos of the regiment.

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Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 13 Feb 2009 03:37

Mumbai suspect 'tortured with sex'

Ansari alleges the woman stripped him naked, abused him all night — leaving wounds and bite marks — and showed him hardcore ***** films.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Feb 2009 03:43

Gerard wrote:Mumbai suspect 'tortured with sex'
Ansari alleges the woman stripped him naked, abused him all night — leaving wounds and bite marks — and showed him hardcore ***** films.

Could be fantasy.

If it was Mumbai Police he would have got slumdog treatment. So he should be countinghis blessings.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Feb 2009 03:54

ramana wrote:Armed forces reeject plan for NSG hubs

I guess the message armed forces are delivering to the babus is "NSG is not the weakest link in the security apparatus so concentrate elsewhere"

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 13 Feb 2009 19:01

http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/12/for...oars-by-56.html

Foreign Aid to NGOs Soars by 56%
Foreign funding to NGOs in India has soared by 56%, according to figures released by the govt. Apparently, Pakistan is among the donors.