Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

[Suppiah]

Look like the pious have lost very little in the floods. They are back with a bang or three bangs to be precise...interestingly, TSPA/ISI/GOTSP is supplying both sides with arms - the Taliban jehadis and the anti-Taliban militia...isnt that clever??

[shravan]

6 killed, 7 injured in oil tanker blast in Punjab of Pakistan

ISLAMABAD, Aug. 23 (Xinhua) -- At least six people were killed and seven others injured in an oil tanker blast which took place on Monday evening in Faisalabad, a city in Pakistan's eastern province of Punjab, reported local media DAWN.

[shiv]

Look like the pious have lost very little in the floods. They are back with a bang or three bangs to be precise...interestingly, TSPA/ISI/GOTSP is supplying both sides with arms - the Taliban jehadis and the anti-Taliban militia...isnt that clever??

One must consider the possibility that the Pak Army/ISI is doing this to say "See - we are losing control. Send money and arms quick"

I would wait for a Pakistani statement on this

[Bhima]

UK public 'shaming world politicians' over Pakistan aid

Jane Cocking Humanitarian Director at Oxfam:

"But if we put all of this together, what we have is a single, long event that has the scale of the [Asian] tsunami, the devastation of Haiti, and the complexity of the Middle East."

I'm sure somehow to a Paki mind that statement sounds like a compliment.

[saip]

Pakistani Economy to grow at 25% this year - Floods be damned!

[Lalmohan]

if 50% of crops have been washed away and 25-30% of khushboos are in marine commando training and 20m SDRE equivalents are homeless, then Gubo Doing Practice might well increase by 25%

[svenkat]

UK public 'shaming world politicians' over Pakistan aid

Jane Cocking Humanitarian Director at Oxfam:

"But if we put all of this together, what we have is a single, long event that has the scale of the [Asian] tsunami, the devastation of Haiti, and the complexity of the Middle East."

I'm sure somehow to a Paki mind that statement sounds like a compliment.

The Briturds and amirkhans are going paranoid.The whole world can see that the emperor (:evil:) has no clothes.SDRE haris and kammis and baloch are facing the brunt while pakjabis are playing the fiddle.

This turd is comparing tsunami to these floods.

Also the controlled gora media(beebs,nyt) are parrorting crap about zardaris inefficiency as if the porki army has done great relief work.

I like this zardari guy who is causing so much khujli to the goras.He doesnt give a damn to the porki army or pakjab.Let us not forget his baloch ancestry.The gora 'democracy lovers' cannot ditch zardari either for that will be bad press to their wh0re.

The whole idea of porkistan mid wifed by briturds is in tatters.Porkistan has no moral basis,whatever little there was,left.

The gora propagandu was that evil hindooism == caste oppression.Pakjabi is worst kabila oppression by ultimate nincompoop cowards against baloch,pashtun,sindhis,sdres.

The utter hypcrisy and evil nature of western christist imperialism,which pretends to sooo 'fair' and 'humanitarian' is on show.No wonder this frantic calls/efforts by WB,ADB,nyt,beebs etc.

But is it possible to revive a terminal coma patient and make him a WC football player.If goras have any brains,they must divide porkistan NOW so that atleast a rump pakjab rentier state might survive as their munna.

But Karma is such a b1atch they are going to infect Lawhore,pindi etc so that the tumor is total and complete making the decision very easy when the decisive surgery has to be made.

[krithivas]

If World must donate $3B towards Pakistani flood relief, especially to preempt Islamic radicals from providing equivalent relief, How come the Pakistani Islamic radicals have access to $3B equivalent?

[arun]

JUST IN: South Waziristan: Death toll in Wana Bazaar explosion near Mosque rises to 30, Former MNA Maulana Noor Muhammad Wazir also killed in blast

The ongoing Muslim holy month of Ramzan / Ramadan certainly seems to be no barrier for arresting demonstrations of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan .

A link to the story:

30 killed, 40 injured in suicide blast in NW Pakistan

[abhischekcc]

This year is gone as far implementation of anglo american strategy for afpak is concerned. Which means that Obama has a ready excuse for not adhering to the date of the withdrawal. Petraeus has already started hinting that the initial withdrawal may only be a small batch.

Anyway, that was to be expected. We need to figure out what these floods mean long term. Pakistan is even more of a basket case now than before. Earlier, pakistan did not need aid to feed its masses, its agriproduce was sufficient for that - onlee the elite needed to be paid off. Now, the yanks and prits need to supply enough food and material for elite and a very large section of the population. They cannot do this.

This leaves the door open to jehadis. Jehadis have one major financial advantage over the western agencies - they have very low overheads. In addition, they have a very large network which is already functional on ground. With a small amount of money from sympathetic muslim donors in the world, they can outfeed and outlast the western aid agencies on ground. This means that the west has lost the propoganda war before it even started.

This leads us to the question - the anglo americans will start wondering - what is the cost of propping up pakistan and what is the utility, and is there a fair tradeoff between the two?
The floods have disrupted many military and AF bases in pakistan. Even when the waters recede, the pakistani army will be torn between providing aid and fighting militants. It will be at a major propaganda disadvantage as the jehadis will press home the point - what is PA doing killing jehadis (those are helping the poor) and supporting the US?

This point, if presses properly, has the potential to turn the pakistani public against its government - destabilizing the country at a fundamental level. Till now, the rank and file abduls have kept quiet because PA is thought of as supporting Islamic objectives. If PA is seen as unIslamic, it will be the end of the social contract that is the foundation of pakistan.

Which leads us to the penultimate question - are the jehadis strong enough to take over pakistan? They are strong enough to kick PA out of certain mountainous regions, which are inaccessible at any rate. They are strong enough to provide aid better and faster than the PA-western combine. They are strong enough to fight short pitched battles against the PA (Lal Masjid), which they lose anyway. The reason is that the ranks of PA are still servile to the officer class.

Which leads to the final question - just what the hell is happening to the PA? All this stress - a hypocritical war of terror, loss of democracy, gain of a farcical democracy, death of BB (who was something that many aam pakis COULD look up to), the total absence of any national leadership, the open interference and humiliation by US army in pakistan, the civil war state in most of pakistan - all of this has to have an impact on the common soldiers of PA. Exactly what they are going through - no one knows. Many of the areas under attack and also under floods are the same places where PA sources its soldiers from. PA's inability to help them will have a demoralising effect on them.

This is a factor that needs a close watch in the coming months.

[Lalmohan]

mango fauji comes from pakjab and pushtun lands... mostly agri belt
the pakjab mango fauji will probably start having more self centered thoughts right now if abbu and ammi jaan are swimming

one thing that disturbed me, when i see footage of pak halikaptars distributing aid, its all high alt bombing of sacks whilst blowing away the meagre shelters of the mango abduls... its in sharp contrast to what i have seen elsewhere - of at least some attempt to give aid in a helpful manner

there was also this footage of some aid guy on a truck throwing things to screaming mangos, his actions were highly dismissive... arrogant almost

again, not what you normally see in these situations

[Raghavendra]

Former cricketer Imran Khan backs flood relief efforts by 'terror outfits' in garb of Pak Islamic charities http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20100823/8 ... -by_1.html

[shravan]

U.S. drone strike kills 13 militants, 7 civilians in Pakistan's North Waziristan, officials say – Reuters

[Prem]

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/a ... d_to_flee/
Many Pakistanis can’t afford to flee

HAMDANI LEGARI, Pakistan — The old man stepped carefully through his village, dodging craters as deep as graves where they had been mining soil for embankments to hold back the floodwaters. Already, nearly half this village of tenant farmers had been destroyed. The crops wiped out.But Mohammed Ayoub and his neighbors were not leaving, not unless all the mud houses collapsed. It was not about pride, or a farmer’s love for his village or the land he sows. It was a straightforward financial equation: They could not afford to lose what little they had left.If, to an outsider, their belongings might look inconsequential — some goats, a couple buffalo, cheap metal cooking pots and transistor radios — it was everything to them. And with no way to take their possessions with them, they were not going to leave them for the looters.

Look it this way, grass crop will be much better to accompany Tiddis Sashimi to be savored like old prophetic time.
i say send them few F16s and TOWs. They can eat all of them with mango Chutney.

[chetak]

Former cricketer Imran Khan backs flood relief efforts by 'terror outfits' in garb of Pak Islamic charities http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20100823/8 ... -by_1.html

No wonder this guy is a darling of the DDM, just like hamid gul.

[RajeshA]

No sign of a rainbow: Economist

Certainly Pakistan’s president, Asif Ali Zardari, has done little to inspire confidence. Swanning off to his chateau in France was the act of a political clodhopper. (And he has a tin ear, to boot: witness the cringe-making unintended puns in his Independence Day message on August 14th. He said the day was a “watershed mark”, though enthusiasm had been “dampened” by the floods.)

This guy has really earned his immaculate teeth, for putting a smile on the faces of so many - like me!

[archan]

Who knows if it indeed was unintended pun..

[shravan]

New Zealand rule out Pakistan trip
(AFP) – 13 hours ago

WELLINGTON — New Zealand cricket chiefs on Monday backed the idea of fundraising matches for flood-ravaged Pakistan but ruled out the prospect of the Black Caps travelling there.

Reports from Pakistan indicated New Zealand had offered to play there to raise funds for flood victims, but New Zealand Cricket chief executive Justin Vaughan said his message to the Pakistan Cricket Board had been misconstrued.
..

[RajeshA]

Who knows if it indeed was unintended pun..

May be he had outsourced his speech writing to some Yindoo, who smuggled in all those puns!

[Rishirishi]

Personally I feel a bit sad. Floods have caused terrible conditions to a lot of people. But any help given to TSP should be met by cuts in military spending. I fear another Afghanistan is in the making.

[krisna]

latest imaging of floods from .
UNITAR/UNOSAT

there are 19 maps since may 2010(including the hunza river floods/landslides).
The first 2 are of todays(23 aug)-- related to jacobabad and surrounding areas, and hyderabad on 21 aug.

eastern sections of Jacobabad including Madadpur hospital are severely flooded with no functional road access; the flooding within the western side of the city is also severe; the Jacobabad airport has possible water inundation on the northern edge of the runway;over 17km of route N-65 between Jacobabad and Dera Allah Yar is now completely flooded; Further, as predicted in an earlier analysis released on 18 August (Product ID: 1480),
Jacobabad has now been completely encircled by flood water, leaving no functional land transport routes for aid or evacuation. This situational analysis is based on a rapid visual assessment of the current satellite data available over this area and will be revised and updated as new data becomes available; this analysis has not yet been validated in the field.

After going through the internet, when checked the major arterial roads are mostly not affected severely especially between major cities. Roads from karachi - hyderabad-sukkur upto central punjab are in little danger in parts. Looks like they appear to be intact.
lots of villages however are inundated along with fields.

[krisna]

Former cricketer Imran Khan backs flood relief efforts by 'terror outfits' in garb of Pak Islamic charities http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20100823/8 ... -by_1.html

From the article--

The JuD, under its latest humanitarian face Falah-e-Insaniat, has established numerous relief camps in Khyber Pakhtunkwa province in its bid to push through its anti-west ideology amidst the survivors of the devastating deluge.

While the Pakistan government has been struggling to collect funds for the flood-victims, the JuD, which masterminded the November 2008 Mumbai carnage, claimed that it raises 120 million rupees daily, which is equal to the total amount the Prime Minister relief fund has with it.

Remember KSA had mentioned that they channel funds through different route and not thru' the GOTSP.
Jud likely recepients of this funds.

[svinayak]

Personally I feel a bit sad. Floods have caused terrible conditions to a lot of people. But any help given to TSP should be met by cuts in military spending. I fear another Afghanistan is in the making.

It will be many af-pak areas with different regions having different soci0-economic stds
It will be a broken Pakistan but with some resemblance of govt. Anarchy will be normal and be accepted. Welcome to the new reality

[Neela]

All work , no pay makes Pakiland's unemployment rate 5.5% - Now beat that rest of the world and kaffir India!

THE unemployment rate of 5.5 per cent for Pakistan looks satisfactory at the first glance, at a time when the United States has an unemployment rate of 9.5 per cent and some Eurozone economies have a joblessness rate of nearly 10 per cent.

However, after examining how the unemployment rate was worked out, the lower rate of 5.5 per cent loses much of its charm.

It may be asked as to why the unpaid family helpers have been shown as employed workers when they do not receive any remuneration. The answer may be that this is because such unpaid family helpers are, after all, helping in the effort to produce goods and services – although they are not receiving any wages for the time being.

......

But, the problem facing our economic managers is that if unpaid family helpers are excluded from the list of employed workers, the unemployment rate will shoot up to unacceptable levels.

[brihaspati]

Islamabad and PA has long ago compromised with both the landed elite and the dawa-business establishment of the Islamic radical cum charities. The gov and PA has for long jostled with the charities and madrassah-mosque networks for redistribution, and since Zia, have been forced to accpet the dawaists claim to predominance in the countryside.

So floods mean:
(1) greater replacement of government on the ground by Islamic NGO's
(2) reorganization of land use, and land grab by the landed elite as the waters recede
(3) PA's ineffectivenes on the ground sought to be compensated for by PA strategists by supplying and supporting the Islamic charities
(4) More concessions given to radicals and mosque-madrassah networks in return for continued legitimiacy of both the gov as well as PA.

The floods will accelerate the negation of the current form of government in a majority of the rural areas and the weakening of the current form of PA and strengthening of the radicalization of the army.

[Gus]

But, the problem facing our economic managers is that if unpaid family helpers are excluded from the list of employed workers, the unemployment rate will shoot up to unacceptable levels.

lol...given the family size of 50 - I wonder how many are "unpaid family helpers" and how many are paid...

[krisna]

Pakistan asks for leeway on fiscal reforms

Pakistan, which had been borrowing heavily from international investors and suffered rising inflation, was hit hard in 2008 by the worldwide food crisis and then the global recession. After China had turned down Pakistani appeals for a bilateral rescue, Islamabad agreed a three-year deal with the IMF.

and currently it gave a measly donation to baki. still bakis consider it as traller than... and dipper than..., non monsoon weather fiend

“The IMF is not well adapted to cope with situations like this,’ he said. “It is not set up to give money with no strings attached.”

[krisna]

TFTA ==India superpower

President Asif Ali Zardari said anger at the government in the coming months is inevitable given the scale of the disaster, comparing it to the anti-government sentiment generated by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the United States.

"There will be discontent, there is no way any nation, even a superpower .... can bring the same level of satisfaction that will be close to the expectations of the people," Zardari said in an interview with a small group of foreign reporters in the capital, Islamabad. "Surely we will try and meet them as much as we can."

[Prem]

Paki leverage over Indian

http://pixdaus.com/index.php?pageno=3&tag=lion&sort=tag

[Prem]

Anyway, that was to be expected. We need to figure out what these floods mean long term. Pakistan is even more of a basket case now than before. Earlier, pakistan did not need aid to feed its masses, its agriproduce was sufficient for that - onlee the elite needed to be paid off. Now, the yanks and prits need to supply enough food and material for elite and a very large section of the population. They cannot do this.
Which leads to the final question - just what the hell is happening to the PA? All this stress - a hypocritical war of terror, loss of democracy, gain of a farcical democracy, death of BB (who was something that many aam pakis COULD look up to), the total absence of any national leadership, the open interference and humiliation by US army in pakistan, the civil war state in most of pakistan - all of this has to have an impact on the common soldiers of PA. Exactly what they are going through - no one knows. Many of the areas under attack and also under floods are the same places where PA sources its soldiers from. PA's inability to help them will have a demoralising effect on them.
This is a factor that needs a close watch in the coming months.

As predicted Pakis are prpgressing fast toward becoming 40-50 Billion$ a year begger . How many Auliyas will they need past 2020? Wagha Wall will fall in 2022.

[Ambar]

As predicted Pakis are prpgressing fast toward becoming 40-50 Billion$ a year begger . How many Auliyas will they need past 2020? Wagha Wall will fall in 2022.

Let them fragment and hemorrhage forever,we don't want 170m illiterate,bigoted,religious radicals within our borders..

[Prem]

Discovery of real Pakislam.

Talibanisation of the heart —Abb ass Zaidi

In the backdrop of the public lynching and then hanging of brothers Hafiz Mueez Butt and Muneeb Butt in Sialkot on August 15, a journalist writing in an English language daily asked the following questions about the murderers: (i) Are they human? (ii) Are they Muslim? and (iii) Are they really Pakistani? (The writer thought they were none of these.)These questions are evidence of the lowest depth of misery, hollowness, and dishonesty to which some Pakistani journalists have taken their profession. Of course, these murderers are human, Muslim, and Pakistani. The hollowness of the word “really” reminds me of Kurtz’s outburst of “The horror, the horror!” in Conrad’s Heart of Darkness. Why is there so much hype about this lynching in both the media and the judiciary? Is it something that came out of outer space and so we cannot accept it? Do we human-Muslim-Pakistanis not lynch and destroy unarmed people while the entire nation and national institutions react from blatantly cheering on to finding crooked justifications for our sins and crimes because “Muslims cannot do it!”, a mantra on the lips of everyone from Zardari the secular and Gilani the reconciliator to Nawaz the Amir-ul-Momineen and Shahbaz the servant-in-chief? Think about the journalists, the Islamists, the retired..
To the above three questions, add a highly arrogant claim that we the human-Muslim-Pakistanis make without fail while raising an eyebrow at non-Muslims: “We the Muslims never disrespect a corpse!”

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_5

[Prem]

Image deficit" theory examined
Shriman Ik Ram Ulla

In politics, according to an old adage, "everything is fair in love and war", which seems to apply well in the environment prevailing in South Asia. Certainly, there are spin masters the world over, including various intelligence or spy agencies, who do not hesitate to knock out their opponents and destabilise foreign governments to fulfil their grand designs. Thus it is not a surprise that Pakistan, which successfully achieved its freedom in 1947, despite the British government's blatant support for the Indians, especially the Hindus, through international conspiracy is not being allowed to flourish, even though its geographical location is of most strategic nature in the South Asian region.
It is unfortunate that since our independence, the Indian leadership has not accepted Pakistan as a separate nation. More so, some major powers of the world also have their own strategic designs in the region, especially Pakistan

[Prem]

Pakistan expects more UN, EU flood talks
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... alks-rs-04
The art of Begging and Bragging

WASHINGTON: Nations helping Pakistan cope with major floods are arranging new talks in New York in September and in Brussels the month afterward to assess the response, a senior official said.
The talks would follow a gathering last week at the United Nations, which raised more than 200 million dollars more to assist Pakistan with its worst-ever floods that have affected 20 million people.“The world is realizing that this is not just a flood, this is a mega-flood, this is a flood of the century,” Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Myboob Qureshi told “The Charlie Rose Show” on US public television.

[Suppiah]

It seems Unkil has also joined the Taliban, let us give a s..t on floods and festivities, go ahead and join the IED mela...

Droneacharya blesses a few to their 72

Coming to think of it we should be happy TSP is spending a lot on arms because the way intra-animal killings are going on, they need more, not less...

[Suppiah]

Pious try to kill a non-pious who wrote 'blasphemous' words on a wall. Wonder what the words are...

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg7_7

and with so much fun going on this minor incident that only kept 1 bunch of 72 busy is underreported with brf choosing to ignore it...

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 010_pg7_11

[rahuls]

Some ISPR propagandu:

Hilarious the way the guy at 0.25 holding on to his lungi tries to pull the other guy from Heli. By the way isn't he SDRE ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-KgXYKW ... re=channel

Shrek donkeys and well fed buffaloes (are buffaloes too classified as TFTA, if so then these are definitely SDRE) floating while ISPR camera men practice their shooting skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMmUNWqM68&feature=fvhl

[CalvinH]

Some ISPR propagandu:

Hilarious the way the guy at 0.25 holding on to his lungi tries to pull the other guy from Heli. By the way isn't he SDRE ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-KgXYKW ... re=channel

Shrek donkeys and well fed buffaloes (are buffaloes too classified as TFTA, if so then these are definitely SDRE) floating while ISPR camera men practice their shooting skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMmUNWqM68&feature=fvhl

Sir the guy in heli is trying to pull the guy (in lungi) who is standing on the ground, to the heli to rescue him but the guy on ground is refusing to board. He has his family and stuff in the marooned island it seems and he doesnt want to leave them

[Satya_anveshi]

Here is one I told you so type of post about 2 months before the great floods

Truly AOA!

[Anujan]

Three tweets of Salman Taseer (Pakjab Governor) are worth mentioning

1. 3.6 billion $ in pledges. So anybody about world being stingy should get their musharraf kicked

2. He tweeted something to the effect of "Maths of Indian aid: India gave 1 billion $ to Afghnanistan, only 5 million $ to Pakistan"

followed quickly by

3. "Indian occupation of cashmere like Israelis in Gaza"

And then they complain about Indian stinginess! a true RAPE if there was one.