See the comments.Even the pakis are not beleiving their own propoganda.A_Gupta wrote:Re: Swat video - it is being presented as Indian troops killing Kashmiris, here:
http://www.kalam.tv/ur/video/44827/index.html
After watching the video,my blood boils at its mere mention..Any way one can get Shashi Tharoor's attention? He sure has friends in UN and Indian media.He can make it happen without himself getting involved.saip wrote: Read the comments. No one seems to be fooled.
:Spy Talk
By Jeff Stein | September 22, 2010; 11:19 PM ET
CIA drones killed U.S. citizens in Pakistan, book says
CIA drones killed “many Westerners, including some U.S. passport holders” in Pakistan’s tribal area during the George W. Bush administration, the new bookby Bob Woodward says.
Woodward,a longtime Washington Post journalist, writes in "Obama's Wars" that then-CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden disclosed the killings to Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari during a meeting in New York on Nov. 12, 2008. Hayden was succeeded by Leon J. Panetta in 2009.
Hayden and his deputy, Stephen Kappes, had gone to meet with Zardari, elected only two months earlier, to gauge his reaction to the drone strikes, which were generating widespread protests in Pakistan.
According to Woodward’s unattributed account of the meeting, Zardari said, “Kill the seniors. Collateral damage worries you Americans. It does not worry me.” ………..
Wahington Post
seen it. but who can authenticate such videos. too many floating around. just like the kashmiri shinakhth one
For those who know it, pakjabi accent is undeniable. That they may choose to lie about it is another matter. One day a rep from a dish company called me and asked me if I spoke U--Hindi. I said yes. he started off with "Arrey Bhaiya..."A_Gupta wrote:Re: Swat video - I think some Pakistanis are embracing it because they are on the PPP side of the PPP versus Army equation. Otherwise the normal denial would happen.
The "normal" denial does not help them, they just end up fooling themselves. The "normal denial" only makes things from bad to worse for them.A_Gupta wrote:Re: Swat video - I think some Pakistanis are embracing it because they are on the PPP side of the PPP versus Army equation. Otherwise the normal denial would happen.
Pakistan's former military leader, Pervez Musharraf, tells Colin Freeman why his country needs him again - and why British troops must stay the course in Afghanistan
sunnyP wrote:Pervez Musharraf to return from exile in Britain as 'saviour' of Pakistan
Pakistan's former military leader, Pervez Musharraf, tells Colin Freeman why his country needs him again - and why British troops must stay the course in Afghanistan
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... istan.html
chetak wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... istan.html
This is the drastic messiah complex that has afflicted mushy.
The only known antidote for this dangerous condition is a box of mangoes, preferably delivered by a pakistani air force shia airman.
The recovery is explosive, quite dramatic and permanent.
KARACHI: Two Apache helicopters crossed into Pakistan on Friday in pursuit of insurgents who had attacked a remote Afghan security outpost, the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said on Sunday.Anujan wrote:NATO helicopters strike inside Pakistan, giving employment to 30 x 72 people.
Anujan wrote:NATO helicopters strike inside Pakistan, giving employment to 30 x 72 people.
Asad Qureshi has told of his ordeal at the hands of the armed gang who shot one of their prisoners and subjected another to a mock execution during his months of captivity.
At one stage Colonel Tarar was dragged out of his cell, blindfolded and subjected to a mock execution – to the terror of his fellow hostages.
why mock?Three weeks after the kidnapping Squadron Leader Khawaja was forced to appear in a video in which he claimed to have continued links to the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence service, and the CIA and to have betrayed extremist militants during the siege of the Red Mosque in Islamabad in 2007.
Days later his body was found in a ditch near the town of Mir Ali in North Waziristan with a note warning other "American spies" they would meet the same fate.
Since Mr Qureshi's release there has been no word of Colonel Tarar, who was last seen pleading for his life on a video released in July.
His daughter in Rawalpindi said the family had "no idea" about his location or condition.
"We still don't know. We have no contact with them," she said.
Pakistan's actors claim Bollywood stars like Aishwarya Rai are killing their film industry Photo: AFP
US copters kill 30 inside Pakistan
The militants, the sources said, had attacked Combat Outpost Narizah, an Afghan base eight miles from the Pakistani border in Tani district of Khost. US forces repelled the attack and pursued the militants to their post just across the border in North Waziristan.
US forces, however, not penetrate more than six miles into Pakistani territory. {Sovirginity was not lost, because it was GUBO within limits}
From the article:Brad Goodman wrote:Take a lesson from Pakistan: Taxes are for suckers
Amen to that! In fact, I would change this statement to The best thing that ever happened to Pakistan was Islam.The best thing that ever happened to Pakistan's elite was 9/11.
Personally, I see no issue with it. Someone ought to point out to the pakis that its $25 M. Hey, if they have accepted the aid and used it to feed their unwashed poor or line their pockets, its irony, ain't it? But then point that out to the Syed Geelani types.saip wrote:Mahendra: This is the Paki bashing thread. I dont see the reason for the pic you posted.
Brad Goodman wrote:Bollywood is killing our film industry, say Pakistan’s actors
Pakistan's actors claim Bollywood stars like Aishwarya Rai are killing their film industry Photo: AFP
If you would be so kind as to say what the heck this video is about I could decide whether to waste time and bandwidth on it or not.RoyG wrote:[youtube]hfln0_Wazvc&has_verified=1[/youtube]
Also see:Brad Goodman wrote:Pakistan Navy Chief Corruption Puts Navy at Risk
His recent purchase of four Hawker 850 XP aircraft is a case in point. With a large and extremely diverse fleet of VIP aircraft, did Pakistan really need another VIP aircraft purchase? The country’s VIP fleet includes G-IV, Cessna Citation V, Cessna Citation Excel, Learjet 35, Learjet 45 XR, Raytheon Hawker 400, Falcon 20, Cessna Conquest II, Bell 412 helicopters (3) MI-17 helicopter Airbus A310-300 and LearJet.
Insiders know that, for this deal for the Hawker 850, envelopes exchanging hands.
Pakistani minister resigns after criticizing army
By ZARAR KHAN (AP) – 1 hour ago
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan's federal minister for defense production resigned after being summoned by the prime minister to explain comments he made criticizing the army and accusing it of killing prominent politicians.
Abdul Qayyum Khan Jatoi accused the army of killing several high-profile Pakistani figures, including former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and ethnic Baluch tribal leader Nawab Akbar Bugti.
Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani later summoned Jatoi to explain his comments. He told reporters Sunday the minister made his statements "in his personal capacity, and within five or six hours he resigned."
Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira told local TV that Jatoi's comments were "against our policies."
The army is widely considered the most powerful institution in Pakistan and it is risky for officials to criticize it. The military has carried out three coups against civilian governments in Pakistan and has ruled the country for much of its 63-year history.
Bugti, the Baluch tribal leader, was killed in an August 2006 military operation. The 79-year-old's remote cave hide-out collapsed in an unexplained explosion while security forces were searching for tribal insurgents who fight for a larger share of natural resources extracted from impoverished Baluchistan. The exact details of Bugti's death are disputed.
Bhutto was assassinated in December 2007 after speaking at an election rally in a garrison city just outside Islamabad. The military-led government at the time blamed the killing on the Pakistani Taliban, which stage attacks throughout the country from their sanctuary in the tribal areas near the Afghan border. Critics in Pakistan speculated the nation's military or intelligence apparatus could have been involved in the killing, which the government refuted.
The tribal areas also host a range of militant groups focused on battling NATO troops in Afghanistan. The U.S. has stepped up pressure on these groups this month by carrying out 19 missile strikes, including two on Sunday — the most intense barrage since the attacks began in 2004.
In the first strike Sunday, a drone fired three missiles at a house in Datta Khel, part of the North Waziristan tribal area, killing three suspected militants, said Pakistani intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.
Minutes later, a drone fired two missiles at a vehicle in the same area, killing four suspected militants, the officials said.
The exact identities of the seven people killed in the attacks were not known, but most of this month's airstrikes have targeted forces led by Jalaluddin Haqqani, a commander once supported by Pakistan and the U.S. during the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan.
Haqqani has since turned against the U.S., and American military officials have said his network — now effectively led by his son, Sirajuddin — presents one of the greatest threats to foreign forces in Afghanistan. Another militant commander, Hafiz Gul Bahadur, and his forces also hold sway in North Waziristan.
The U.S. wants Pakistan to launch an army offensive against insurgents in North Waziristan, but the government has resisted. Analysts believe Pakistan wants to maintain its historic relationship with the Haqqani network, which could be an ally in Afghanistan after foreign forces withdraw.
The 19 missile strikes this month have killed around 90 people, according to an Associated Press tally based on Pakistani intelligence reports.
U.S. officials do not publicly acknowledge the drone attacks but have said privately they have killed several senior Taliban and al-Qaida militants in the region, which is largely out of the control of the Pakistani state.
Pakistan often criticizes the attacks as violations of the country's sovereignty, but the government is widely believed to help the U.S. carry out the strikes. Criticism of the missile attacks has been more muted in recent months.
Associated Press writer Ishtiaq Mahsud contributed to this report from Dera Ismail Khan.
If Pakistan cannot do something, then India also should not do the same; otherwise, Pakistan would be offended and cry foul. It has now come down to the ridiculous levels of films.Brad Goodman wrote:Bollywood is killing our film industry, say Pakistan’s actors
Pakistan's actors claim Bollywood stars like Aishwarya Rai are killing their film industry Photo: AFP
Anujan, very true. The judiciary is in direct confrontation with the PPP government. This week might be crucial. The PA will certainly not take the rein, but, as usual, will do the back-seat driving. It would be interesting to see if PPP would go and PML-N (or a hotch-potch group) would come in or only Zardari would go with PPP still ruling. Both are possible. It would be also interesting how Zardari would seek asylum and where. What is the US doing in the background ?Anujan wrote:Some Journalists and IED-atars that my fourth cousin befriended across the border are murmuring that a change in leadership is likely. Not a coup, but a "re-shuffle" if you will.
