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by Y I Patel
14 Mar 2019 02:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

I would argue that they might have been a lot more credible in calling for restraint on India’s part had they voted with the rest of the international community. Now shackles are off for India

China has just been cornered into a no win situation for itself.
by Y I Patel
13 Mar 2019 19:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

I agree with rudradev that the conversation has already changed in ways that might never become public or explicit. Just one small example - the next time an American diplomat spouts pious sounding nonsense with Indian interlocutors, the diplomatically couched response will be: stop enabling nuclear...
by Y I Patel
12 Mar 2019 08:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Kashi

Sorry but not right now.
by Y I Patel
12 Mar 2019 07:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

The tanks in Sialkot seemed totally wacko. POK comm blackout is ominous (may indicate a lot of interesting Indian actions, causing major decapitation of the jehad). But pulling troops out of Balochistan in a hurry seems crazy: if anything they need much more strength there. Those troops were there ...
by Y I Patel
12 Mar 2019 07:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

The beauty of cold start is in its unpredictability. Unlike during Parakram, there is no need to move the equivalent of a small town to a concentration area. IBGs have the same functionality of breaching a heavily defended front, and at multiple points. Pakis can never be sure anymore.
by Y I Patel
12 Mar 2019 06:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Also, during Parakram, Lt Gen Kapil Vij concentrated lead elements of 2 Corps somewhere close to and west of this area. This area has all the markings of being a strong candidate for a jump off point of an armoured thrust westwards (although in all honesty the same could be said for some other areas...
by Y I Patel
12 Mar 2019 05:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Why did Pakis send drones to Sri Ganganagar, you ask? Simble onlee - Pakis have been following BRF for decades now and they want to check up on what Brigadier Shivinder Singh Randhawa and IBG 606 are up to... https://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=877&start=200 Read my narrat...
by Y I Patel
10 Mar 2019 18:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

UB in #8 you are referring to Lt Gen Muhammed Aziz Khan, the most powerful of the “Beards”.
by Y I Patel
07 Mar 2019 21:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Pankajs is a grounded poster who usually adds value to discussions. I don’t know what he posted that caused him to be banned, but this is a request for lenience keeping past posts in mind.
by Y I Patel
06 Mar 2019 05:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

The narrative around Operation Balakot now has the potential to solidify thus: India launched a pre-emptive strike on JeM terror camps. In retaliation to this defensive anti-terrorism measure, Pakistan used F-16s in an act of military aggression. The powerful second part of the narrative is based on...
by Y I Patel
04 Mar 2019 09:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 1402
Views: 175179

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

The NYT article is an out and out sales job. Indian military old, desperately in need of modern combat aircraft but bad politicians want populism instead of arms purchases.

India is slipping away in more ways than one.
by Y I Patel
04 Mar 2019 00:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

@manjgu generalized qualitative information like you have been posting (e.g "intense air activity on right now") is great to have in times of media blackout where it is not certain if things are winding down or are at the same intensity level. You are our trusted source but we only want yo...
by Y I Patel
03 Mar 2019 22:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Thank you! Official media will not comment on it, but it is so nice to know from a trusted source that at least something is going on.

Regarding SHQ, pliss to take testimonials from BRF to plead your case. We need your voice!
by Y I Patel
03 Mar 2019 21:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

@manjgu

You are BRF's official Forward Combat Observer. Bash on!
by Y I Patel
03 Mar 2019 08:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 1402
Views: 175179

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Going by the image, this is the first aerial engagement in history where both sides fielded AWACS!
by Y I Patel
03 Mar 2019 03:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

I am not sure that has happened yet YIP, as Pakistanis are adept at lying to themselves and the PAF is also adept at lying to everyone and I wish NaMo had allowed a proper retaliation to happen, war or no war. An AFB wrecked in a retaliatory strike would have been proper humiliation, the kind that ...
by Y I Patel
02 Mar 2019 21:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

The Pulwama thread is very educative when read in hindsight. I had made a few drab remarks then: War is unpredictable, but public humiliation of Paki military will have very pleasing domino effects. A week earlier if someone had said that IAF should bomb a few terrorist camps and then sit back and r...
by Y I Patel
02 Mar 2019 06:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

I am simply in awe of WingCo Abhi. When I saw photos of him walking with blood on his face and arms pinned behind, I saw a chained lion. Defiance oozed out of every pore. He swaggered into captivity and diminished his captors with his lack of submission to pain, fear, and doubt. This was before I fo...
by Y I Patel
02 Mar 2019 05:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

How many times I have read in the 90’s, apropos F16 as Pakistan’s most reliable nuclear delivery vehicle, that “the bomber will always get through”. Well, the bomber turned tail, was chased down, and got a 40 year old missile up its tail pipe courtesy a 38 year old pilot flying a fighter produced be...
by Y I Patel
28 Feb 2019 23:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

but hasnt it always been in this order? PA > PAF > PN > PM PM is the peon who does what the other 3 tell him to do, esp the big dog PA. PAF was supposed to be "secular" in the old days, maybe to some extent it still is? That’s what they and their clients would have us believe. The reality...
by Y I Patel
28 Feb 2019 23:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion
Replies: 3693
Views: 372399

Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

I am beginning to suspect serious issues between PAF and PA. After the first PA presser following Op Balakot I had noted how the army guy threw PAF under the bus. Now we have the following after the shoot down of F16: PAk Army goes to town that two Indian aircraft were shot down, and this lie gets p...
by Y I Patel
27 Feb 2019 01:47
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

I went up for air from this thread and what do I read? Trump is meeting KJU in Vietnam. This horrible India Pakistan thing is just a nuisance distraction. Move along now. Nothing to see along the LoC!
by Y I Patel
27 Feb 2019 01:28
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

Before dhoti shivering begins over pak armor thrust from Sialkot pliss to remember IAF Mi35 waiting in Pathankot for their wet dream to come true.
by Y I Patel
27 Feb 2019 01:25
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

After air strikes it was a pak army guy who responded. He pretty much threw paf under the bus and said this would not have happened with a ground attack. Signs of fissures already
by Y I Patel
26 Feb 2019 22:55
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

“Non-military preemptive strike”

Now they are making it sound like something a babu would do if he got up on the wrong side of his bed. Of all the cuts, calling it by such a name has to sting the most.
by Y I Patel
26 Feb 2019 22:16
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

Unconfirmed WhatsApp report one of IAF pilot is female
by Y I Patel
26 Feb 2019 22:03
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

Music being played at Wagah border is old patriotic Hind song

Apnon ke liye dildar hain hum
Dushman ke liye talwaar hain hum

For ours we are full of love
For enemies we are a sword


Topical, wouldn’t you say?
by Y I Patel
26 Feb 2019 21:41
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

Some snippets from ACM Tipnis interview Previously had said what IAF can do, not what it will do Air Force advantages stealth flexibility ability to keep enemy guessing with feints ability to select among primary secondary even tertiary targets on the fly M2k chosen because multi role. Among 12 some...
by Y I Patel
26 Feb 2019 20:31
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Forces Strikes Pakistan Terrorist Camps
Replies: 2210
Views: 124955

Re: Indian Air Forces Strikes Pakistan along with Ground Assault

I got a video of Wagah border crossing today on WhatsApp . Carnival
by Y I Patel
26 Feb 2019 08:09
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

Any plans to start a separate thread if reports of air strikes are confirmed? Will be really helpful to get news from all outlets including social media in one thread...
by Y I Patel
25 Feb 2019 08:48
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Upcoming India-Pakistan War - Force Balances, Strategy, Tactics, etc.
Replies: 200
Views: 10978

Re: Upcoming India-Pakistan War - Force Balances, Strategy, Tactics, etc.

Speaking of Corps Commanders, by an interesting twist of fate, GOC 14 Corps is none other than Lt Gen Y K Joshi, better known as the commander of 13 JKRIF battalion of PVC honorees Capt Vikram Batra and Rifleman Sanjay Kumar - the conquerors of Pt 5140 during the Kargil war. If 14 Corps sees action,...
by Y I Patel
21 Feb 2019 08:49
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

Gagan,

what would the condition of valleys in Ladakh and Baltistan be like, this time of year? would they be snow bound?
by Y I Patel
21 Feb 2019 08:47
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3910
Views: 832271

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

A proud day for India. Congratulations Team India!
by Y I Patel
21 Feb 2019 08:39
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

The biggest reason I would favor the Kishenganga Valley as a target for salami slicing is that it is a relatively lower risk option. However we would have to capture dominating heights around it, else we will be the same position as Paks now. Will be receiving Pak 155MM rounds for years in the vall...
by Y I Patel
20 Feb 2019 08:29
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

Sudip, I have a low opinion of the competence of Pakistan’s rulers and believe that it is getting progressively ungovernable. Over the longer term it will disintegrate but until then it needs to be punished and dissuaded by imposing painful, lasting and visible costs. Salami slicing is an option for...
by Y I Patel
20 Feb 2019 06:54
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2443
Views: 427019

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Cross posting from Pulwama thread since this is a useful reference: The biggest reason I would favor the Kishenganga Valley as a target for salami slicing is that it is a relatively lower risk option compared to some other areas along the LoC. India occupies dominating heights along the eastern and ...
by Y I Patel
20 Feb 2019 06:47
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

The biggest reason I would favor the Kishenganga Valley as a target for salami slicing is that it is a relatively lower risk option compared to some other areas along the LoC. India occupies dominating heights along the eastern and southern banks of the river, and since the 90s has on several occasi...
by Y I Patel
18 Feb 2019 20:38
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

Amidst the grief, worth remembering that catching and killing the perpetrators and a couple of days is an extremely impressive feat.
by Y I Patel
18 Feb 2019 20:20
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

Heavy army casualties likely because of the importance of not letting the perpetrators of Pulwama escape. Usually army proceeds methodically when acting on a tip but may have had to act fast given the gravity of the situation. We will know more as the situation unfolds but likely the army men will g...
by Y I Patel
18 Feb 2019 07:35
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Pulwama Attack
Replies: 2282
Views: 155322

Re: Pulwama Attack

This is not intended to be a facetious response - war is always fraught with uncertainty, but if Pakistan were to loose, say, the Neelam Valley, it will have domino effects elsewhere that will be very pleasant to watch. The behavioral change is them being forced to react to something India does for ...

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