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by Anshuman.Kumar
10 Sep 2019 14:55
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Is Siberian Hunter Gatherer genome a close proxy of Andaman or South East Asian Hunter Gatherer ??
by Anshuman.Kumar
08 Sep 2019 22:40
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

It sheds light on antiquity of indian R1a and the tentative results show that l657 or Indian R1a has local origins
by Anshuman.Kumar
08 Sep 2019 18:44
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

aDNA lab is coming up pretty good at Birbal Sahni Institute
by Anshuman.Kumar
08 Sep 2019 18:43
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

May be I am wrong.
Anyways The R1a paper from G Choubey is not far away.
R1a is in a way crucial to delink language from Genes .Confirmation of autuchtonous origins of R1a in India will totally delink Languages from genes or Europeans will have to accept OIT and the antiquity of Vedic language
by Anshuman.Kumar
08 Sep 2019 13:49
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

^^^ along those lines of careful scrutiny : The paper in Science Sept 6th: The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia The paper in Cell Sept 5th: An Ancient Harappan Genome Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian Farmers Still digesting the papers, but can someone shed ...
by Anshuman.Kumar
06 Sep 2019 21:08
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

@ Prem.. I am not a geneticist..so cant explain it properly in genetic terms, But to me it looks like That steppe MLBA/EMBA is essentially iran chalcolithic or IVC people mixing with few other populations during the expansion phase,ending up in steppe .Now The statisticians take Steppe Population as...
by Anshuman.Kumar
06 Sep 2019 15:54
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

People must work on modelling Steppe Ancestry with this new IVC genome too..check how much deviation is there. Mind You the so called Steppe Ancestry has a large Iran Chalcolithic Component. Plus This so called Iran Neolithic or Iran Farmer Must be modeled as admixture of this Pure IVC population an...
by Anshuman.Kumar
06 Sep 2019 10:15
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Doesn't AIT and PIE language theory say that Indian languages and persian are part of Indo Iranian sub tree. If the Iranian DNA in India has branched off greater than 10000 years ago, then how come Samskrit and Persian share a common Proto Indo Iranian parent language? If Steppe DNA came to India v...
by Anshuman.Kumar
06 Sep 2019 10:13
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
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Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Correct. The Rakhigarhi aDNA without Steppe component + Sanauli Chariot together demolish AIT. It shows the following: 1) That the Indus Valley people were indigenous & had horse-chariot technology circa 2500 BCE 2) By then, they had also independently invented & practiced agriculture for 1...
by Anshuman.Kumar
06 Sep 2019 09:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

"Steppe" people brought nothing new..Neither Iron,Nor Horses Nor Chariots.

The bigger hit will be The Sanauli DNA of the Buried Warrior with His Chariot.
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Mar 2019 15:28
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

It seems like
North India x+y+z
Iran x+y+w
Steppe x+w+v
See India has 33% steppe.

It's a very crude example.but I do believe that this is what is being done.
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Mar 2019 15:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Rudradev: thanks for the summary! I listened to the Anand Ranganathan panel. Very good stuff & I hope more of this happens. The pro-Indic scientists & Indologists need more such forums for their voices to be heard. Totally looking forward to Dr. Niraj Rai's paper. However, if his paper reve...
by Anshuman.Kumar
12 Feb 2019 21:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Small Arms Thread
Replies: 4653
Views: 843693

Re: Small Arms Thread

What happened joint venture carbine.Where does it fail the GSQR.
by Anshuman.Kumar
19 Aug 2018 11:05
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Dr Shiv should be persuaded to be back here.

And as an aside ..the ones who are well versed with Genetics ..can document the changing definitions of ASI and ANI even since Reich first came up with these classifications.Ditto with what constitutes Iran Farmer and Steppe.

The win can be achieved there
by Anshuman.Kumar
18 May 2018 11:40
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

The only way out is understanding their methods and then come out with our own models which beat their models hollow on proven scientific methods. Most polemic or even scientific work which at best raises questions on their conclusions will never pass muster. You can't let them be comfortable in the...
by Anshuman.Kumar
17 May 2018 06:54
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

It only means the Paper is neither here nor there. It subtly raises the question on association of R1a/R1b to the so called IE languages and also shows that the Yamnaya through the Maykop have probably southern ancestry as MayKop Y Haplogroup profile is very similar to the southern contemporaneous C...
by Anshuman.Kumar
10 May 2018 22:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

^^ This is big. If true (can't see full article as it's behind a paywall)... it suggests that the very construct of "Steppe_EMBA", which (per Lazaridis 2016) is modeled as a mixture of Anatolian HG and Iranian Neolithic, is bull$hit. Hence Steppe_MLBA (modeled by Vagheesh et al as 74% Ste...
by Anshuman.Kumar
01 May 2018 14:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Here's an interesting tidbit: Niraj Rai, who has done a U-turn and become an AIT supporter, was granted a visiting scholarship at Harvard Medical School (Reich lab)!! Recall the incident where Witzel offered Talageri a scholarship at Harvard if the latter changed his views Now this guy Niraj Rai le...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 23:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

There is a larger scale DNA study of Rakhigarhi going on in CCMB, Hyderabad and collaborators. In science absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The Rai study if true just says that in that sample that is what they found. Although I am not sure whether Iran farmer is an artificial construc...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 21:57
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I believe every single so called Steppe sample must be tested for that so called Iranian Neolithic admixture and then see how that relates with the swat samples. How much of Iranian admixture is in EMBA Steppe and MLBA Steppe. Interesting thing is that EMBA Steppe Ancestry was dropped as a source fo...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 19:05
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

There are 2 main approaches as I see it 1) Shiv's approach, which argues that genetics does not mean language. Sanskrit is likely several thousand years old. It or its predecessor was spread over large parts of Iran. And it likely could have spread to Europe and Steppes from there 2) We look into w...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 18:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Shiv Ji.you are taking it in a wrong way.My concern is how we are going to handle.I.am not a qualified Geneticist or a Mathematician..just an engineer. But the way i see it..is that we have to take a very deep look at their methods.and how new.methods and terms which are essentially sleight of hand ...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 18:19
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Does it matter Doctor Sahab what is PIE? Language is just a tool..Idea was and will always remain that the so called UC's particularly the Brahmin are evil outsider Aryans ..And hence to be hated but others not to be ..As they are just doing what the original.outsiders do..N unlike brahmins the late...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 16:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Also with just one sample what exactly would this paper add to what we have with this Harvard paper.. absolutely nothing to be honest except just add to it.had it been even lil off the mark..AMT guys would have trashed it because it is based on one new sample ..but if it somehow supports it..it will...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 16:29
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

We must also accept that the Harvard paper has taken lot of effort..Creation of EMBA and MLBa among the steppe people..specific "outliers" called IP..specific treatment of Iranian Neolithic as something stand alone and masking any contribution to steppe which then could be seen in later da...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 15:29
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Yes that is the agenda and they have more or less succeeded . I have nothing against good men here on this forum or else where who are pushing on a homegrown perspective on Indian ancient History and our roots..But you must accept that with zero evidence they have pushed AIT and then AMT without any...
by Anshuman.Kumar
27 Apr 2018 15:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Expect a deluge of caste related stuff..Forget pushing dates of RgVeda Back ..Everything will be brushed aside.RgVeda will be fixed to 1200 BC . A paper based on just one sample will be enough to establish AMT once and for all. Worst part is out of over 200 skeletons excavated from.different places ...
by Anshuman.Kumar
24 Apr 2018 21:43
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Anybody read that open magazine article

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... ink-we-are

The attack is relentless.seems IVC paper has been sabotaged.no proper DNA.

And key people influenced..Or bought off
by Anshuman.Kumar
21 Apr 2018 10:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA: News & Discussion - June 2014
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Views: 317456

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread - June 2014

Not at all..it's simple.logic.Its airframe is better than Su30 MKI.Sukhoi wont be going backwards.Its engine are the ones being used in SU 35.Rest when you yourself have no idea about what are the capabilities of J-etc how something becomes a dud ? Just because its Russian.?
by Anshuman.Kumar
21 Apr 2018 10:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA: News & Discussion - June 2014
Replies: 2740
Views: 317456

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread - June 2014

Dud?
Compared to what?
J-20,J-31.?
F-22?F-35?
Any operational data ?

At the very least it will be better than anything we have now or will have in future including Su-30 MKI and Rafale.

So no Dud.
by Anshuman.Kumar
12 Apr 2018 11:31
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/ancient-dna-lab-at-bsip-to-unearth-harappan-history/articleshow/60431875.cms I believe this talk of working on ancient DNA of 20 skeletons is very important starting from September 10 last year. Seems they were not happy with what they got from Cambridge and e...
by Anshuman.Kumar
11 Apr 2018 10:27
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

"Moreover, there is evidence which is consistent with the early presence of several R1a branches in India (our unpublished data)." Etc etc https://www.google.co.in/amp/www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/too-early-to-settle-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19265947.ece/amp/ Just because we hav...
by Anshuman.Kumar
11 Apr 2018 10:22
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Looks like they don't have good data on Rakhigarhi samples. I don't know if this means that they are trying (or) they have tried and given up. This is very unfortunate. The earlier set of Rakhigarhi DNA could not be analyzed due to contamination. There was hope by the researchers that the new set w...
by Anshuman.Kumar
11 Apr 2018 08:47
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Had an exchange with Dr. Kumaraswamy Thangaraj. He said Rakhigarhi DNA publication would take several months. So, those holding their breath, please don't. The article in Chindu by Tony Joseph earlier this year (that a paper was due soon), was a lie - just like other lies by him and the Chindu. Thi...
by Anshuman.Kumar
08 Apr 2018 21:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

How do Indo Scythians who were proper invaders have no genetic input on modern Indians but so called Aryans who never invaded have.
by Anshuman.Kumar
05 Apr 2018 16:28
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

The question that must be asked is how can BMAC have no genetic contribution to later south Asians but so called Andronovo pastoralist who crossed BMAC have and while somehow migrating across BMAC they don't pick any genetic input of this BMAC population but influenced later date south Asians so muc...
by Anshuman.Kumar
05 Apr 2018 15:25
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Can somebody Suggest what exactly constitutes steppe ancestry as used liberally in all such papers..something has to be a base ancient population. And i am of the opinion that all such modelling is based on a predefined direction and hence what fits best even if that means dilution of earlier conclu...
by Anshuman.Kumar
15 Mar 2018 15:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5210
Views: 424672

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

There is a simple way out for all the groups who have made expansion of "PIE" a sort of political slugfest.. Just expand on the concept of 16 lands (give similar theory) created by Ahura Mazda...all outposts of late PIE and each expanding to varying degrees and making up later "cultur...
by Anshuman.Kumar
04 Mar 2018 14:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.2: News & Discussions - 25 February 2018
Replies: 1082
Views: 224696

Re: Tejas Mk.2 News & Discussions: 25 February 2018

If all goes well ..the proposed 24 crafts per year capacity by 2021,should be atleast doubled by 2026,with equal participation by Pvt sector. All the recent news that have been coming show that Govt has brought all stakeholders on the same page,so funds,ramping up production will get a boost due to ...
by Anshuman.Kumar
02 Mar 2018 22:27
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 284400

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

Mk1 was 58 tons ..add a plough to it..becomes 60 tons. usable .use 4-5 of them with say 40 MK2 without the ploughs in each regiment..which frees them if needless weight n helps meet the new army demand of I believe 65 tonnes weight..ur earlier mk1 become usable too..everybody is happy ..a mk1 with a...

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