Bharat Rakshak

hemant_sai

Mk2/AMCA/TEDBF everywhere we are hearing only lies in terms of projected timelines. IAF/ADA/HAL are clearly not in sync and neither of them are telling truth to Raksha Mantri. We are perpetually waiting for golden version. At one side we claim modular design, open arch. and still delaying in the nam...

hemant_sai

Are we not too late for this??? Those KB renders were done long back when ORCA news 1st surfaced. In 2022 when mk2 SE rollout was delayed, that was right time to pitch this with M88/RD33/Kaveri engines. In any case ADA should have taken parallel efforts from 2018 to keep design ready with 2 engines....

hemant_sai

If you all are serious then first get our dear Raksha Mantri to accept that he needs to take rest. If that is also not possible then at least get good team of future leaders to take the charge unofficially. We need real passionate and visionary Raksha Mantri. The more we continue with kadi ninda, we...

hemant_sai

Should India take any system from US which is controlled by software?
If military leadership is aware of the situation, why they can't keep PM and RM informed on this.
Software on military hardware from US which is complete black-box should be avoided. Especially fighter planes and engines too.

hemant_sai

They knew already that it is getting delayed by significant years but can't work on air intake design , bcoz it will delay rollout :) Can we hope to see real hard interviews this time? We only expect truth with disclaimers as applicable. But definitely not man-maani on publicly giving timelines as t...

hemant_sai

LAD can be bit slanted to the back like that small display in the front. And color theme is not researched well, even if it is lcd/led display, bad choice of color theme will not be eye friendly. Last 3 yrs they hv only focused on making it work :) But very naive about UX that could have been far be...

hemant_sai

https://x.com/writetake/status/1098841211056533505?mx=2 aero india 2019 - we are soon to witness aero india 2025. again new dates and new promises. Can this forum accept that there are deliberate attempts to sabotage? And why ADA and HAL officials cannot be taken to serious questioning? After all th...

hemant_sai

only if there was enough common sense to keep the design and proto ready with russi engine AL-31, today AL-51F1 engine (without afterburner) could be an option and it would have also act as pressure tactic on US. These design mandates to keep all the restrictions to limit the possibilities and ensur...

hemant_sai

It is very high time that Shri. Rajnath Singh ji handover the charge of defence ministry to someone in the same league of Shri Ashwini Vaishnav, Shri Rajeev Chandrasekhar.

hemant_sai

Why we bother about these 1 liner statements after so many ridiculous stuff happening in past 12 months. It is very certain by now that respected RM is good for nothing. He is not capable to read between the lines. And PMO is also not serious about finding the right fit for defence minister. I wonde...

hemant_sai

I am sorry but we are taking it too lightly. It should not be that let congi state anything but they are not going to win, so ignore it. If we have this mentality, it is pathetic that we are not alert and serious enough. More than bjp, media and any organisation which cares for this country should b...

hemant_sai

220 + 201 + 272 + 189 = 882 So 189 is the mysterious number but why it would include amca at all? It could also be seen as imported no. Including existing 36. I would love to see the expected timeline though :) Is it 2040 or 2045? I am more interested in time till 2035. 201 is not even starting till...

hemant_sai

If at all numbers need to be made up and older stuff retired, we may pick up retiring M2K coming on the market as a 10 year filler. I would take it happily. But I read that those additional mirages are only coming to maintain existing fleet. Not to be used as additional combat fleet. Other surprise...

hemant_sai

@hemant_sai: This is the plan ---> https://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=2616101#p2616101 I say again....Keep Calm and Carry On! Yes, I will wait till 2030 to post again :) So 1 last qn, we can spend billions on rafale which is based on 70/80 kn engine. And we don't want dependency on y...

hemant_sai

1) I had mentioned in earlier post, I still want to continue with Tejas Mk2 development but I am not in favour for production units now. 2) For AMCA, I am not in favour of even putting efforts for prototypes but technology development must continue. Prototyping efforts should be deferred to 2031 or ...

hemant_sai

200% with you on this. It is only with assumption that iaf is looking for some capabilities which mk1a can't fulfill but Mig29 can.
Also we cannot scale up mk1a as we are limited by engine supply.
We need quantity sooner, no other motive to promote Mig29.

hemant_sai

No accountability, No retrospection? If iaf takes the accountability and we have to leave at it, I am fine. But if they leave the blame to MoD then it is not good. We are effectively at mercy of MoD babus who could be manipulated by external forces. IAF should take responsibility for time bound prod...

hemant_sai

1) fact that other than mk1a , no new production will be started before 2032. And there are more chances that even 2032/33 is not guaranteed. 2) and in any case we need 26 rafale M + 54 iaf = 80 (total 90 for iaf wl b good enough as per Air Marshal R. Nambiar). Assuming India will push for local ass...

hemant_sai

Recent Alpha Defence video posted pointed to further possible delays of Mk2 rollout going in 2026 and even that is not certain to say first flight in 2027. Reasons could be many, but this needs serious evaluation now. 1) I am still in favour of completing the Mk2 process which is stepping stone and ...

hemant_sai

One of my observation is that BJP is not properly exposing nexus between khangress and china. BJP is not even properly exposing how khangress is taken over by communists in India who serve CPC. They are not able to convey properly yet on how khangress is not good for national security and integrity....

hemant_sai

@premkumar you are right, problem here is we have RM who is clueless. Respected RM is really not suitable for this position but God knows why Modi is failing to understand this. If RM is not changed after 2024 elections, We should not keep high expectations going ahead. Tejas mk2 fiasco is biggest t...

hemant_sai

Maitya ji, can you please help us understand that if we had already involved Safran for Kaveri earlier and now with even new JV,
why GTRE is approaching russian institutes for flight testing?

Is it bcoz it is comparatively cheap by considerable margin?

hemant_sai

@Pratyush - sorry couldn't locate IAF thread. If you could provide the link?

hemant_sai

Correction to wild dreamzzz...But still seems like a dream :( If we are serious about Atmanirbharta in defence w.r.t. fighter planes and powerful enough to deter china, IAF and GoI must plan for, 140 mk1A (7) 260 mk2 (13) 160 tedbf/orca (8) (Navy tedbf not included) 140 amca (7) ==== OR ==== 140 mk1...

hemant_sai

I was hoping for someone to give positive message that yes, mk2 orders will be placed well before 2029.
Sadly everyone seems to be of same opinion as mine.

Now I will be happy only when I will hear that mk1a numbers are going to be 200.

hemant_sai

AMCA design was modified in 2020 for DSI intakes. Same was also included for TEDBF design. For Tejas Mk2, we wanted to avoid delays as it was expected to start production as early as 2026. Now we are in 2023 and rollout itself is planned for 2024. But we are very reluctant to put parallel efforts fo...

hemant_sai

GTRE wants to test the Kaveri with afterburner on the Tejas to generate data. Has been asking for it for a few years now. Not the dry version. May be MoD is waiting for OMCA (unmanned) version of Tejas :) And if GTRE is really willing then they are also sure of safety and no threat to pilot due to ...

hemant_sai

GE 414 deal doesn't make any sense to me. India owned engine via JV is anyways highest priority. None of Tejas mk2 , Amca or Tedbf will be ordered or signalled for production this decade. We are unnecessarily committing to GE 414. There are obvious rework w.r.t. new engines but planning the same alo...

hemant_sai

My apology in advance for sudden negative post:) Are we confident of bjp win in 2029? If not then, it is certainly end game of mk2. One thing is certain that mk2 orders are not going to be officially made before 2029. In the absence of bjp, no power on earth can make it happen. So in this thread may...

hemant_sai

.... Political leadership has to initiate such reforms at least for the defense production are in the DM if they want better results than what we have been seeing for decades. I do agree but this is what we expect now that BJP has continuous 9 years in power. It is obvious that BJP's political lead...

hemant_sai

This Tejas Mk2 saga is sabotage by vested interests of DRDO and HAL? Clearly ADA and HAL are accountable for loose talks and misleading the nation. On what basis they had given earlier timelines without any disclaimer and in-fact bragging about shorter timelines to rollout 01st proto and 01st flight...

hemant_sai

@RoyG - you are bang on target and main crux of the issue in simple 2 sentences :) We have to accept that we do not have solution to it. Especially when other indic sections are also in a way radicalized to support them. Only after next 30-40 years, when the inevitable will start and India will plun...

hemant_sai

One fallout of Russia Ukraine war is that Ukraine will be more aligned with India's enemies than before.
Are we getting rid of any dependencies on Ukraine? And will a prosperous Ukraine in future become headache to India?

hemant_sai

This assembly line has not appeared out of nowhere. HAL chairman is well aware of it and still he has given the timelines very recently. If HAL chairman is not revising the timelines despite knowledge of new assembly line, why the respected members here like to make news out of it related to timelin...

hemant_sai

We never had great expectations from RM. He is definitely not someone like Parrikar and Ashwin V. who showed proactive participation in decision making and will to find solutions. But still good part is that we are on upward path and he deserves some praise for it. https://www.ddpmod.gov.in/whos-who...

hemant_sai

Now that we have more official dates on 01st flight of LCA-Mk2 as 2026-27 and min. 3 years for flight testing and certification (optimistic), one would assume negotiations to start in 2031? which will obviously further delay the start of production activity and expected 01st delivery of Tejas-Mk2. B...

hemant_sai

I had same opinion about kadi ninda but then who is most promising minister to replace him? Ashwin Vaishnavi? He seems to be better choice. RS ji could serve the nation where his strength lies. May be jagaruk citizens need to express themselves directly to RS ji and request him to handover the respo...

hemant_sai

:) if we will be ready to pay or get exploited for MLU , it will indicate failure of our desi platforms. Remember we expect Tejas Mk2 to almost match Rafale capabilities and Tedbf to exceed it. MLU is at least 12-15 years away. If there are alternatives for us and competition for French maal, you wi...

hemant_sai

@mody,

If we expect order for another batch of rafale in this year, why it can't be for F3R(I)?
Every billions of $$$ saved are useful for our indigenous programs. Then why to order F4 version. Let it be part of MLU.

hemant_sai

It is an eye opener.

I wish we get Mao sir back to be part of the mission to deliver TEDBF.

It is not only about platforms that we need but we do need right people and plenty of them.

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