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shouldn't we stop calling the Su57 as 5th gen at least in BRF ., the Su57 is a 4+[+] gen fighter with some 5th gen technologies.. At least the SU-57 is similar to the F-35/F-22 class compared to the chinese rubbish of 5th Gen, nothing is stealth about it. 1. Chinese systems shouldn’t be considered ...

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I really hope we don't have to open a new thread for this circus. Below is the first formal offer from India to France over FCAS. India pitches to join Future Combat Air System with France https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-pitches-to-join-future-combat-air-system-with-france/article70696...

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All of this is a result of decades of inaction. Can’t blame the government or IAF now.

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Years of mismanagement and ignorance has now lead to us spending billions to buy jets off the shelf. I understand IAF needs this capability NOW. But, it’s Just a shame. We should make sure we don’t make the same mistakes going forward

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Beyond Rafale, why India is eyeing sixth generation fighter aircraft program FCAS with France In what could be a major collaboration in the aviation sector, India is exploring the possibility of teaming up with France for co-development and co-manufacture of a futuristic sixth-generation fighter un...

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https://x.com/shiv_cybersurg/status/2023231611056296370?s=20 ---> I had dinner with an influencer last night. I asked him why he was against the Rafale. He said, "China has 1,000 x Gen 5 aircraft. 200 Rafales will not win in a war. It will cost less and make much more sense to lose a war to Ch...

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The supposed additional Rafale M order on top of 114 for IAF is like ... of aatmanirbharta :(( Just wait until we buy two squadrons of Su-57. All of this is a result of decades of inaction. I don’t think the government has any choice now. China has been aggressively inducting J-20, a true 5th gen f...

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Tejas Mk1As unlikely to come with full capabilities by March: Sources https://www.business-standard.com/external-affairs-defence-security/news/tejas-mk1as-unlikely-to-come-with-full-capabilities-by-march-sources-126020501898_1.html 05 Feb 2026 Defence sources say HAL has sought relaxation of certai...

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If May is the time when IAF is going to inspect the fighters, can't HAL go one step ahead and start integrating the Astra MK2 variant on the Tejas MK1A. Without public announcement, the ones who worked with resolving the Astra issue, can be tasked with integrating Astra MK2 capability. Probably it'...

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Can anyone explain why Rafales are needed by IAF when the same amount of Su-30MKI can do a better job? // i understand the need for pilots to have choice and kick the tyres/get familiar with Rafales, notwithstanding the cheese/wine parties that go hand in hand. But the Rafales are not better than t...

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^this will essentially kill TEDBF? Is the plan to just cut TEDBF / Tejas Mk 2 and skip directly to AMCA??

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Sorry, can someone explain to me how serious is this news of 36 additional Rafale M for the navy as part of the 114 Rafales? Are we buying 114 Rafales or 140? In addition to the 114 Rafale ordered, India has asked France to provide 31 Rafale Marine https://www.latribune.fr/article/la-tribune-dimanch...

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... Its not a financially wise idea to do this just for 2 or 3 squadrons . ... It doesn't make sense if you look at it in isolation. However when you consider it as a hedge against the AMCA (French engine?) + French Rafale then it makes sense to have it as part of the force. Just like we (and the C...

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Hmmm, I have a theory, IAF/ GOI want to discredit HAL in the public mind atleast temporarily so that nobody questions the 114 Rafale deal and it's huge cost and why HAL is not the local partner? But I feel Raga will raise the same issues again. Bhai govt didn’t need all this now to discredit HAL. H...

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HAL's statements are weasel-worded 1) *Major* changes done 2) Design suggestions are being incorporated 3) But they are ready for induction I have no love lost for them, because repeated CMDs have turned out to be liars & hiding their organization's sloth/chalta-hai behavior That being said, IA...

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From HAL's official twitter account... https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/2019281454212214945?s=20 ---> HAL wishes to clarify the status of LCA MK1A deliveries to the customer for all stakeholders. HAL confirms that five aircraft are fully ready for delivery, incorporating major contracted capabilities ...

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Post 2032 is 2033 latest. Knowing HAL, should we just buy more Rafales and Mk 1A and just shift our focus fully into the AMCA and start looking at a 6th generation fighter.

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HAL says five Tejas Mk-1A jets ready, but delivery to IAF may miss deadline again https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2026/Jan/30/hal-says-five-tejas-mk-1a-jets-ready-but-delivery-to-iaf-may-miss-deadline-again 30 Jan 2026 The HAL chairman is disingenuous in polite parlance and shameless in col...

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Breaking news : HAL out of AMCA race https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/amca-fighter-jet-programme-tata-lt-bharat-forge-in-fighter-jet-race-hal-out/amp_articleshow/127893595.cms AMCA fighter jet programme: Tata, L&T, Bharat Forge in fighter jet race; HAL out Best news I have read so far. ...

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^Isnt the design for AMCA mostly done?

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^ ill believe it when it happens. Knowing HAL, first flight might not be until 2030

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^If they don’t have certification then it’s not ready. The requirement of certification was always there or was HAL just giving deadlines without certification.

I am sure I will be crucified here but I am just so tired of this nonsense from HAL. Get private players involved NOW.

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^American propoganda calls it an Su-35 with stealth coating. Which honestly seems about right.

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Sukhoi’s own patent says 0.1 to 1 m2. Which is a massive range but the Rafale is widely known to have an RCS of ~1m2. https://theaviationgeekclub.com/did-you-know-the-su-57-felon-has-the-same-rcs-of-a-clean-f-a-18-super-hornet-and-1000-times-bigger-than-that-of-the-f-35/amp/ I believe Russians them...

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Can someone explain to me why this aircraft is considered a stop gap measure until AMCA when Su-57 has similar RCS as Rafale? Is it just optics to show that we have a “fifth gen” because PAF is getting one? Who told you it's rcs is same as Rafale? Rafale is nowhere close to the shaping, platform al...

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Russia, India holding technical discussions to explore possibility of joint production of Su-57: Official https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/russia-india-holding-technical-discussions-to-explore-possibility-of-joint-production-of-su-57-official/articleshow/127715050.cms 28 Jan 2026 I...

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If Adani wins this then god help us all. Adani has no experience doing any R&D. At most they put on white labels on Israeli missiles. They will create a very sub par aircraft copying whatever they can get their hands on and cutting corners. Then Adani’s friends in govt will make it illegal/unpat...

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https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianDefense/s/TmvB8iqVER

No private bids on the development of AMCA…. Not sure an additional 30 day extension will make a difference.

It’s a complicated and tough undertaking. I am afraid if this goes exclusively to HAL again; we will not be seeing the AMCA until 2050.

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Ab aur kitne mahine wait karna hoga

After Operation Sindoor, IAF seeks more Rafales to stem depletion of fighter squadrons
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 223125.cms
11 August 2025

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We should ask the Israelis for dirt on this pedophile. This will make all the tarrifs go away.

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It appears to me that a G2G deal regarding the Su-57 is imminent. Likely when Putin comes to India later this year. Most likely the tariffs are trumps way of pushing for Lockheed Martin’s lobby.

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^ I agree. AMCA must be fast tracked. Not sure what’s worse: kill switch amriki F35 or barely 5th gen Russi SU-57 or a decade with Pakistanis having chini 5th gen.

Perhaps we need a different thread to keep this about the 114 Rafales

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Moderator Note : Please do not post just links without a title and a date. Your post has been edited. Lagta hai yeh log iss forum padkar news chhap dete hain. IAF looking to acquire 2-3 squadrons of fifth-generation fighter jets from foreign sources https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news...

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I am inclined to agree with Rakesh. It makes no sense to pivot from Rafale to the Su-35. Dassault has built partnership within India over multiple years. The navy jets are purchased, they are setting up domestic manufacturing and safran will build the engines for AMCA. I do not see how the babus wil...

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Moderator Note : Please do not post just links without a title and a date. Your post has been edited. India Recalibrates 114 Jets MRFA Tender, Eyeing to Reduce Rafale F4 Jet Purchase to 60 for Interim 5th-Gen Stealth Jets https://defence.in/threads/india-recalibrates-114-jets-mrfa-tender-eyeing-to-...

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^i think we need a few more committees and a few more panels to come to the same conclusion before we put an order in for 114 rafales in 2035.

Also, why wait for the AMCA execution model to be finalized? Are they planning on ordering 114 AMCAs?

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With Putin’s anticipated visit to India in the final quarter of 2025; I really think we need a separate thread on the PAK FA / SU-57. Putin’s first priority will be selling the Su-57 so they can get their own manufacturing underway. So I believe Putin will be ready to transfer whatever tech India wa...

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Reason why this Ceasefire narrative is not going down well with many in India public---> 1) Many feel damage should have been much more on Pak side... 2) Pakis are going around declaring it as some sort of victory while Indians are very silent about it... 3) There seems to be no regret on Pak side ...

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Propoganda on great Pakistani Victory is starting. https://www.youtube.com/live/i95-xHPQi4s?si=n600SMqs_YqcSV-P https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistani-prime-minister-hails-victory-203921572.html? Koi airbase operational nahi hain tabhi ceasefire maanga aur bataa rahe hai ki victory hai. I think India...

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A_Gupta wrote: ↑11 May 2025 05:22 Pakistani pilots fly Rafales for Qatar. So Pakistan has some detailed information about them.

This is why nothing will beat home made products. Only if our babus can hit one deadline

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