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by Deans
25 Oct 2020 18:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Gokhale filed this report only yesterdin from Ladakh on the LAC situation ... https://stratnewsglobal.com/ladakh-standoff-india-negotiating-on-equal-terms-with-outfoxed-china/ Ladakh Standoff: India Negotiating On Equal Terms With Outfoxed China LEH, LADAKH: There is a military stalemate along the ...
by Deans
25 Oct 2020 18:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

I don't understand why we are so focused on Ladakh. Why wouldn't the PLAAF attack in the North East? There are targets like Dibrugarh, there is Arunachal Pradesh, they have bases like Chengdu but airfields that are much, much closer and without a significant penalty, like Lijiang. The Chinese are c...
by Deans
20 Oct 2020 20:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Given the events, I think Deans-2022 is more likely now. Thanks. Good to see that several things in the book (I had completed most of it by end 2018) are playing out. For the next few days, the book is available at a special price or Rs 159 on Kindle (Amazon.in), as against the regular price of Rs ...
by Deans
01 Oct 2020 00:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

There were some fundamental differences between the PLA in 1962 and now. The PLA in 1962 was a battle hardened army, with all its senior officers fighting us, having survived the Korean war - which was a ruthless Darwinian test. By contrast hardly anyone in IA had combat experience. To be precise, ...
by Deans
30 Sep 2020 22:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Sir, you are again listing out all the things that wee got wrong. Not how the Chinese managed. There was a very nice analysis of everything that we did wrong in the Western sector in 1962 by a retired military officer, either posted in the beginning of this thread or maybe in the previous avatar of...
by Deans
30 Sep 2020 09:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Sirs As a newbie I am curious why given our strength currently deployed and the importance of tackling the Chinese Army early ( given the way they build infrastructure so rapidly) why our political leadership and our EAM have found it prudent to just watch and wait? Given the winter temperatures co...
by Deans
28 Sep 2020 16:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

[ Actually, wartime mobilisation is perhaps easier than planning for a permanent presence. Sachin ji, You make an important point. We are planning for a permanent presence, which I doubt the Chinese are doing. They mobilized for a quick salami slice. When that did not happen, they are trying intimi...
by Deans
17 Sep 2020 17:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

None of the PRC's other sectors are active, why cant they bring more of thier 2.3 million soldiers to TAR, Taiwan, Japan, Myanmmar, Loas, Vietnam, Nepal, Tajiskistan, Krygistan, Russia, Mongolia, Soko may all have disputes with the PRC but nobody will invade PRC- they dont have a Pakistan type enem...
by Deans
17 Sep 2020 17:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If, despite India facing challenges unprecedented in its history, China cannot make headway, we will probably be left alone for some time. We currently face: - Covid - Unprecedented economic crash - Pakistan making an all out effort to stay relevant in Kashmir - BIF activities : Article 370/ CAA/NRC...
by Deans
17 Sep 2020 17:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

China deploys 10k troops on south bank of Pangong Tso, 50 battalions stationed in Ladakh LAC NEW DELHI: China is believed to have brought forward more troops in the past week along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh, taking its total troop deployment to approximately 52,000. Of these, 10,00...
by Deans
14 Sep 2020 15:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Congrats on the youtube Rohit !
For those who are not aware, Rohit Vats blog has some of the best analysis on various aspects of IA's - particularly Order of Battle.
by Deans
14 Sep 2020 15:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The reason why so much of the Qingzang (Qinghai-Zizang aka Tibet) Railway Is built on elevated viaducts is that it is not ground underneath but permafrost . Destruction of the pillars means rebuilding into the permafrost to achieve the stable support, not merely filling in holes and relaying track....
by Deans
13 Sep 2020 09:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Zozilla Pass and Rohtang pass at 3500m and 3800m are shut down during winter. How come G219 which is above 4500m can still be used in winter? I guess part of the reason ZP and RP are closed is because they are on a cliff. G219 is on a plateau and hence not as dangerous. But does it need constant cl...
by Deans
13 Sep 2020 09:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

No sir, Its 2700 as the crow flies. It's much longer by the road. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Chengdu,+Sichuan,+China/ngari/@33.3541142,74.8723924,4z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x36efc52300447721:0xb98652ce2e240e02!2m2!1d104.066801!2d30.572815!1m5!1m1!1s0x39a9787fa73c0db1:0x78ba413abb82c82f!2m2!...
by Deans
12 Sep 2020 10:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

For all the talk of starting war (or one starting on its own), I believe the following are a reality check. 1. Neither side really wants war at this stage, but will react when pushed beyond a red line. Its good that we have declared what our red lines are. For China, it would be (IMO) IA crossing te...
by Deans
11 Sep 2020 15:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If we have the whole Pangong-TSO lake along with Kailash mansarovar then the tourism alone will pay for the money invested in this area. Imagine camping and kayaking at P-TSO lake and then hiking up to Kailash. What a great memorable vacation. Jai Shiv Shankar. That is what the Bilaspur-Mandi-Leh r...
by Deans
11 Sep 2020 09:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Rs. 150 Cr works out to about $7.5 billion a year. I think India can do just that for at least a few years and it would also spend more to quickly build road infrastructure and airports in the border states. Yes, expensive, but less than 0.2% of GDP. It would signal to China not invest too much in ...
by Deans
11 Sep 2020 00:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Mods, apologies for being OT here, but what is the reason for current GOI to not make the Brooks report (at least in parts) public now. I have never understood the implications (strategic / operational etc ) after more than 50 years of war. The Henderson-Brooks report can be googled and downloaded....
by Deans
10 Sep 2020 19:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

He was planning to fight elections on AAP ticket. His daughter actually did. This should most of what you want to know How the did he get to the Lt Gen level??? Do you need to clear an interview or ??? OT to the thread sorry!! :D I believe after retirement his views have been biased due to his daug...
by Deans
09 Sep 2020 16:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Can we leave that speculation about the picture behind? It is likely pre-Galwan according to Gokhale. If the PLA doesn't have competent personnel in place, it soon will as the situation is becoming more serious. It is better to assume they are competent. Irrespective of when the pic was taken. I wo...
by Deans
08 Sep 2020 19:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

China Airdrops Artillery Pieces, Paratroopers Near Indian Border Using Y-20 Plane The Chinese military completed their first heavy equipment airdrop from Y-20 heavy transport plane during a real combat training exercise in the plateau area, close to its border with India. During this live-fire trai...
by Deans
08 Sep 2020 11:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

China has accused Indian troops of illegally crossing a disputed border and firing "provocative" warning shots at patrolling soldiers. Chinese guards were "forced to take countermeasures", said a military spokesperson, though it is not clear what they were. It would be the first...
by Deans
08 Sep 2020 10:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

India's traditional posture is defensive. Our forces are not designed to be expeditionary forces. China very well knows that. And it also knows that defensive postures will not impose unacceptable costs on the aggressor. What has it cost China to provoke India since May this year? Military cost: Fo...
by Deans
07 Sep 2020 18:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

The terrain favors the defender only when you are sitting on top of a hill. The Troops in the spanggur will mostly be in the plains. And as I said you dont need to kill them, just ensure they don't get Chow. Please understand that 10K Surrendered Little Emperors eating Gobi Manchurian and Shezwan F...
by Deans
07 Sep 2020 18:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

The good things about the Chinese mobilization is that there is hardly any space to maneuver along the Spanggur tso and/or cross over to the India side except at Spanggur gap and Rechin/Rezang lumpa/plain/valley. Therefore, the troops/IFV/Tanks will be bunched up and easy targets. The terrain (and ...
by Deans
07 Sep 2020 18:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

The good things about the Chinese mobilization is that there is hardly any space to maneuver along the Spanggur tso and/or cross over to the India side except at Spanggur gap and Rechin/Rezang lumpa/plain/valley. Therefore, the troops/IFV/Tanks will be bunched up and easy targets. I think the probl...
by Deans
07 Sep 2020 17:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2381
Views: 392746

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

One point on logistics problem for the Great Hans in general area of Spanggur : - Almost all lakes there are brackish, being endorheic. - This means they have to tap into some fresh water sources which are not easy to come by. - This means even drinking water needs to be hauled across fairly large ...
by Deans
06 Sep 2020 20:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

darshan wrote:Are there any collection of funds going for border population?


With Ladakh becoming a UT separate from Kashmir, there should be more funding and development.
by Deans
06 Sep 2020 16:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/status/1302309542491955201 OSINT: PLA linked SM site mods claim that Black Top had Chinese surveillance equipment to spy on Indian troops in F-2 of Pangong from PLA Quidi Sengela post . CCTV reporter Wang Juan once with PLA troops visited Black top & it was bro...
by Deans
06 Sep 2020 16:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

https://twitter.com/SherineBalti/status/1302283767545958402/photo/1 Human chain ferrying water and supplies to troops stationed at vantage points. Is this real ? logistics seem exposed and flimsy. The caption states that these are volunteers from the villages walking up the slopes. So its reasonabl...
by Deans
04 Sep 2020 19:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

I will not expect any break-through today during the talks between RM and #CCP Def Min. Once RM returns there will be additional consultations and then our formal response will be shared via Jaishankar to Wang Yi. My guess is that only after the meeting on the 10th Sept 2020 and an additional few r...
by Deans
04 Sep 2020 19:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

I was watching a video on Lhasa. Something interesting I noticed is that there was very less young men, in regular clothes on the street. Only place was young monks. Lot of old people. So young men have been "disappeared", or have moved east for work. Or they are still escaping in to Indi...
by Deans
04 Sep 2020 19:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/status/1301752487293210624 Chinese despot Xi Jinping's Pakistan visit postponed says Chinese Envoy to Pakistan Seems Xi needs to focus on India-China fracas first ... I am guessing. The Indian action must have hurt mightily but especially amongst this detractors es...
by Deans
04 Sep 2020 14:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
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Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

13 Kumaon sirji. sirji.the unit was 13 kumaon but soldiers were ahirs from haryana. most of them from Rewari distt and Gurugram(gurgaon). there is memorial in rewari for 13 K Yes. The Kumaon regiment is a mixed (Kumaon + Ahir) regiment. In 1962, 13 Kumaon was an all Ahir unit. Not sure what the sta...
by Deans
02 Sep 2020 23:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

No idea how we went or what position we are in. Just saying that the F4 has enough space for us to reach the height. The Chini cannot deploy all along the ridge line, due to the length. Given that nobody is firing, both side could move in to lot of places.. Please watch how the PLA has been deploye...
by Deans
02 Sep 2020 12:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Are we seeing a repeat of 1962 where the Indian Army deploys itself in a scattered manner on "policing actions" while the Chinese are massing behind? Part of the reason the IA was taken by surprise is because they scattered themselves into small groups trying to cover all border locations...
by Deans
29 Aug 2020 15:21
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Replies: 8062
Views: 1071274

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

If anyone wants a PDF version of Delhi riots please let me know I can forward it. Don't know how to post it here. these are our guys. let them benefit from legit sales. If you have the shaheenbagh stuff, that's all the more reason to do what you say. the Delhi riots pdf has been purposely put out t...
by Deans
24 Aug 2020 22:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

On the question of PLAAF not having enough airbases..As long as the airbase are active, the number of fighters on those bases will be constant. PLAAF will simply be replacing all losses from the East. You knock off a sqd of J11, another sqd will come from the East! The PLAAF's main adversaries - in...
by Deans
24 Aug 2020 17:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 966231

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Fighter aircraft in Xinjiang don't have the range for meaningful sorties outside J&K. It's not a question of range of fighters vs, distance to Indian air bases. Aircraft take time to form up, take a flight path that avoids early detection, after which, combat consumes fuel at a higher than aver...

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