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by Cain Marko
08 Aug 2018 05:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016
Replies: 884
Views: 138846

Re: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016

Katare, You are right, if composites are used SU-30MKI would lose lot of weight. And as low risk option they can change the non-structural metal parts with composites. May be shed 5% weight as a minimum. IIRC, the Su35 as well as the mug 29k and 35 leveraged the use of composites to reduce weight. ...
by Cain Marko
07 Aug 2018 23:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

I cannot understand this overwhelming desire to give the Russians a pass on the shoddy job they seem to have performed navalising the Mig-29k. Both Adm Arun Prakas's comments as well as the CAG report provide enough evidence to conclude that these are not the usual teething issues that any newly ac...
by Cain Marko
07 Aug 2018 23:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

abhik wrote:
Rakesh wrote:Not to worry Austin Saar, Ajai Shukla has come to Boeing's rescue :lol:

CAG criticises UPA’s purchase of Boeing P-8I aircraft
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2018/08/ ... oeing.html

What was the P8 up against?

Airbus 319 from bae I think
by Cain Marko
07 Aug 2018 23:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Again, the Indian Navy was fully part of the trials and testing program right from the mid 2000s, why would they accept the fighter if they thought it was inadequately tested it made? In fact they were happy enough that they ordered a new batch as soon as they could, even before the vik trials coul...
by Cain Marko
07 Aug 2018 23:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

The 29K extensively operated from its land based facilities during 2008 to 2010 period SBTF at Russia/Ukr and latest at INS hansa and most of the pilots got their training from SBTF , So yes the IN knew quite well in 2 years of Ops on Mig-29K before operating their 2nd batch. Not just that the INS ...
by Cain Marko
07 Aug 2018 01:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 2040
Views: 405916

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Me too, but I think this move gives the AF some much needed leadership and stake in the program. They will be more accountable for it's failures.
by Cain Marko
07 Aug 2018 01:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Again, I have no need to make excuses for anybody, but I do feel the issue is being made out to be greater than it is. Especially because these claims belie official statements from the CNS. having said this, the bird obviously has issues but from all indications, and as bad as they are, it seems th...
by Cain Marko
06 Aug 2018 09:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CAATSA .. An Oxymoron ?
Replies: 331
Views: 25072

Re: CAATSA .. An Oxymoron ?

Would it not be possible to use a separate comm link for operations they want to hide by using non US assets like the akula, arihant in combination with herons, ships, mays etc? Yes it will probably be expensive but india will probably use more Russki or Israeli and Desi assets for many missions whe...
by Cain Marko
06 Aug 2018 09:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 4241
Views: 774752

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

I wonder if a Brahmos can be used as an ultra long range SAM against tankers and awacs. If one fires a spread of Brahmos like a spread of torpedos, conceivably, the no escape zone can be reduced to nothing. The huge warhead means even a miss by 100 meters would end up peppering the target with hole...
by Cain Marko
06 Aug 2018 09:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 2040
Views: 405916

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

“The design change has been launched sometime back. We don’t want just some superficial changes, but a real increase in performance. The target is to meet or exceed the Mirage aircraft in performance,” an IAF official said. Most important part in my opinion. That is a tangible, achievable target. I...
by Cain Marko
06 Aug 2018 09:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016
Replies: 884
Views: 138846

Re: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016

Btw, these rafales are being compared with the MKI that was inducted 20 years ago, let us see how much of this holds true after the MKI is upgraded, which would be a better Com parison. For instance, if the MKI is plumbed to carry 2000 liter efts like the su35, I doubt range would be anywhere near c...
by Cain Marko
06 Aug 2018 08:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Where did you hear this? There is sufficient information that speaks of a lot of work done to strengthen the airframe and landing gear on the naval fulcrum. Like I said, they have been at it since 1982. One reason why it is 2 tons heavier than the airforce version. From the CAG report on the MiG-29...
by Cain Marko
04 Aug 2018 05:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Naval LCA - News and Discussion
Replies: 825
Views: 116005

Re: Naval LCA - News and Discussion

That or a twin engined nlca sla mirage 4k
by Cain Marko
04 Aug 2018 00:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

[ My understanding was that the undercarriage was underdesigned resulting in the aircraft unable to cope with the shock of hard carrier landings. Less a teething issue, more a fundamental design defect. Where did you hear this? There is sufficient information that speaks of a lot of work done to st...
by Cain Marko
04 Aug 2018 00:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Having said this, I don't see this naval flanker fantasy going anywhere despite how much burnol poor Cholaji has to use while viewing tfta looking PLAN fighters doing their thing. :twisted: these are the heartbreaks that all jingos have to suffer thanks to an utterly callous political class and civ...
by Cain Marko
04 Aug 2018 00:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^ all too true Saar, I just couldn't resist a little jab at Shri Cholas situation. Doing Chinese naval analysis and seeing them build hardware at a frenetic pace all the while when folks here are playing the gentleman's game. I dunno how he does it. I'd have bust an artery or two ages ago. :mrgreen:
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 11:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016
Replies: 884
Views: 138846

Re: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016

Who is paying a bribe to whom? Government paying bribe to another Government ? If Private companies can bribe the government official why cant government bribe the same way ? Just look at the Saudi typhoon deal scandal and one realizes that g2g is no different grim b2b or one can always watch a few...
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 10:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^you raise some good points there Austin, the Shars availability was a disaster not too long ago.
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 09:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Debatable. The Fulcrum has similar maneuverability to the Flanker and a higher T:W ratio. Both have HMS+R-73 combo. So a dogfight could go either way. Flanker has a payload advantage, more powerful radar and better endurance. Payload and endurance advantages could be reduced or negated while operat...
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 08:52
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Replies: 1640
Views: 199560

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

The NASAMs purchase is intriguing. I'd have liked to see more weaponized sea guardians or perhaps even P8s or maybe a far deeper deal on the F404/414 which the LCA uses that protects it from sanctionbazi.
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 08:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2718
Views: 274234

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014

Markoji, Firstly no Saar for me please!! Much too young for that, at least in my heart. Secondly, I did not mention Russian in my post. It was a statement in general and not about any particular production philosophy. Also I doubt any country will release the details of fleet wise maintenance costs...
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 08:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

The second point you make is a very good observation, if the damned bird is so bad, why the second order? That is an easy one Cain-ji :) The first 16 were ordered in 2004 and deliveries began in 2009. The second batch of 29 birds were ordered in January 2010. Guess when the Vikramaditya entered ser...
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 07:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

[ CM saheb, we have acquired 45 Mig29K, thats enough for 2 carriers. All 45 cannot be for Vikramaditya alone. It cannot have more 20-22 Mig29Ks and infact regular deployment maybe with even less then that. So to say that 57 aircrafts are needed to cover for NLCA not showing up is not correct. Where...
by Cain Marko
03 Aug 2018 06:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

No Sir. When operating from land air bases, you do not need to do anything other than giving them an IN serial number. That is all you need. Take a look at the Jaguar IMs, operated by the Indian Air Force but in the anti-shipping role. If the base is by the sea you need the aircraft to be navalized...
by Cain Marko
02 Aug 2018 13:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^ +1 saar. The idea of naval MKIs or even Su34s, if not backfires is a cheap way to keep some control in the ior.
by Cain Marko
02 Aug 2018 13:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 2718
Views: 274234

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014

They can have all the 14 flying or just 1 as long as they can maintain and pay for it , Uptimes are function of how much you want to pay for maintenance to maintain a certain percentage of fighter air worthiness. Didnt we singed a special deal for French Rafale where we are paying through our nose ...
by Cain Marko
02 Aug 2018 04:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^ yes gentlemanly with outside forces and rowdy with own people. I knew some people like that... Mice outside and tigers at home, never fail to give the poor wife and kids a resounding beating to show em who's boss.
by Cain Marko
02 Aug 2018 03:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

This discussion about navalising the MKI - it won't work. it needs too much money and too much time for it to ever get approval. For the decision makers, its a safer and easier bet to just buy a foreign fighter and let the navy figure out how to use 2-3 different fighter types on as many carriers. ...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 12:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 2040
Views: 405916

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

This is nothing new for the ADA - tareekh pey tareekh continues, seemingly without any accountability. No wonder the IAF wants to be in charge, wish this had happened ages ago during inception itself. Alas the technocrats ran it....smallest, lightest, fastest and what not. Bloody FOC has again been...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 08:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 2040
Views: 405916

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

{Again the bottle neck is ADA and which has so far not felt the heat. Not one word from their spokesperson!} This is nothing new for the ADA - tareekh pey tareekh continues, seemingly without any accountability. No wonder the IAF wants to be in charge, wish this had happened ages ago during incepti...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 08:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016
Replies: 884
Views: 138846

Re: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016

^ yes, its all over the BS monitor. Range is more than the MKI, yeah right - with what kind of load and fuel carriage I wonder.
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 08:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

CM if it was just a maintenance and spare parts issue, the 57 aircraft RFI would never have happened. Especially considering the size restrictions on the deck-lifts. Why would the Navy go any other route except a follow-on order for Mig-29ks? Why look for jugaad solutions like tilting F-18's and de...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 03:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^ well if you are saying this based on more than that which is available in open sources, I'll defer to your pov. Can't believe that all parties allowed such an eff up! About the incident from 90, the bird rejoined training after a part was replaced. BTW, if you notice, this is exactly what the CNS ...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 02:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

But his statement doesn't indicate anything that can't be fixed or that it is a major structural issue. Seems more like a maintenance and parts availability issue. Should be sorted out once proper logistics agreements are signed. CM why provide excuses for the Russians? Landing on a carrier is the ...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 02:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

John, did they test the MiG-29 for carrier ops in the 80s? Did they determine that the stress on the airframe was too much for the MiG-29 to deal with? If so, was that info shared with the Indian Navy? If not, we got sold a lemon no? If we did, why on earth did we buy them in the first place? They ...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 01:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Chola, navalized Su-30MKIs are not going to happen. It is going to come down to the F-18 Super Hornet and the Rafale M, in which the F-18 will win. Whether they have the money, is a different story. These 57 naval fighters are expected to cost the exchequer $15 billion USD. And that is the starting...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 01:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

I do not know about the Flanker, but the MiG-29K was never designed to be a naval fighter. See this link ---> https://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7181&p=2286104#p2286104 I doubt testing this extensive was done on the MiG-29K. And if it was, we got sold a lemon! Saar, I'm n...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 01:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Flanker operating from STOBAR is inferior to Mig-29k even Chinese admiral when on to complaint about that, it simply cannot carry much payload and fuel and launch safely. Also Flanker is lot more maintenance heavy as IAF found out combine that wonder effects of sea water and IN will deplete its res...
by Cain Marko
01 Aug 2018 00:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

Blame the negotiating team which should have stuck to it's guns and insisted on the flanker, which was a much better platform? Flanker operating from STOBAR is inferior to Mig-29k even Chinese admiral when on to complaint about that, it simply cannot carry much payload and fuel and launch safely. A...
by Cain Marko
31 Jul 2018 23:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018
Replies: 360
Views: 48150

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 03 July 2018

^ the design works for three fighters...nlca, fulcrum and flanker. Small, medium and heavy. Perhaps the thought of using Western fighters was never a part of the equation those days, early 2000s?

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