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@Indranil: Does the 70 ton payload of the rotation cum resting fixture mean payload contained inside the canister or payload including the mass of the canister ? If the second option is correct, this may just be for the A-5 canister (or for a marginally heavier A-5 variant that is approx. 55 tons or...

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A lot of misinformation could be doing the rounds to subvert our relation with Russia and push us into a US alliance. The problem with a US alliance is the constraints it would put on our nuclear and ballistic missile programs. Plus other political baggage such as ``human rights", ``free hand t...

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It could be that the stratfor people are ``trolling". However, a careful assessment of TSP's nuclear buildup is required. If strategic nuclear superiority erodes on our side, the massive retaliation doctrine indeed loses credibility and space opens for use by TSP of tactical nuclear weapons. Th...

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Now these journos from The Hindu says INS Arihant is yet to sail. Manu Pubby said otherwise. Who is to be believed? The riot act should be read out to these anti-nationals: no baseless reporting on such a sensitive topic. Any violation should lead to serious consequences: police custody, etc. at the...

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How are we to be sure that what Manu Pubby wrote on the K-4 test is correct ? GoI has kept this program under wraps, with no announcement ever of any test (though NOTAMS for this come and go). Plus The Print is Shekhar Gupta's fiefdom: everybody knows what agenda he has. In early 2017 there were exp...

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@haridas: the sslv payload is 500-700 kg to 700 km SSO. I believe the stated payload is from SHAR. If so, the capability of this LV is not that far behind the Minotaur IV. Note that the Minotaur IV has a 1000 kg payload to 700 km SSO from sites where there is no requirement for a dog leg maneuver. F...

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@haridas: is'nt the conical motor in A-5 inherently optimum for a single warhead payload and inefficient for MIRV payloads ?

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Haridasji, 1) Understood. The large single warhead payloads appear to be something not tested in 1998 (maybe a smaller version of these was tested). Boosted fission weapons would expend fissile material unless they are sloika type... 2) Ultimately what is required is the ability to destroy every PRC...

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@haridas: I would agree that A-5 was never meant to be MIRV. Are you saying that India would never develop MIRV when even TSP is doing the same ? Deterrence would never be credible down the line without MIRV (even if it is today). If only 25 kt fission weapons are to be used, why the large 1500 kg p...

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@K^2: the NAVAREA warning for Jan 19 was removed after the A-5 test. So, nothing else was tested. Just a canisterized A5 with a single warhead.

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@K^2: how do you know that this A5 test is an MIRVed test ? You were saying that it would be a K5 rather than A5 test. Any MIRVed test would have some people with ''inside sources" writing about it sooner or later, like such people did for recent PRC MIRV tests.

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why is the media being allowed to leak all sorts of sensitive information that helps our adversaries ? Time these journalists face serious consequences for their treason. at the very least they should be arrested and their release should be made very difficult...

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Hope they test the K-4 soon after the defect is corrected and not wait for 10 more months. Rapid all up testing is better than overdoing simulations etc. North Korea’s recent successes show this clearly. A lot of time has already been lost between January (when a scheduled test did not take place) a...

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The rot indeed ran deep. After all, Mani Shankar Iyer was also in the IFS. The entire Congi top brass as well as ``moderate" BJP elements (look at Yashwant Sinha) appear to have been subverted (probably starting from the late 90's if not earlier). These elements seem to have planned to eventual...

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@SSridhar Could it be, as claimed by Prasun Sengupta, that Pak has only a dozen or so non tactical nukes donated by PRC ? It also makes sense from the PRC's point of view. PRC would not want to end up as a victim of one of their own nukes. If the number is on such a small scale, then talk of the abi...

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^^ Should'nt leaking such info, if such info is true, lead to the concerned journalists being imprisoned ? Preferably, a worse fate, along the lines of a life imprisonment, should befall such elements. Such traitors should not be allowed to continue with their business.

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@ramana: that is what I have been saying. P8I is the only combat item, the rest being non-combat and all at astronomical prices. Add to that the political baggage. This ``alliance" is not worth it. SoKo would have had its own deterrent had it not overvalued such an ``alliance". Today, it i...

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@Ramana: Unlike the Pakis, Larry Pressler is not claiming that the IUCNA is bolstering our strategic armaments (nukes/missiles) in any way. He claims that the IUCNA was a sweetener for general (i.e, conventional/related) deals with the U.S. MIC. Given how much we have coughed up for expensive U.S. t...

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Munir Akram's ambitions are most probably beyond TSP's technical capabilities to fulfill, even in the next 25-30 years. The fact that TSP has not launched a satellite in spite of all the IRBMs it has got, while Iran and NoKo have launched satellites even as they acquired IRBMs, goes to show that TSP...

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@ramana: How can you be sure that no further proliferation to Pak will occur (i.e, ``Abbasi got the message"). Abbasi is irrelevant here. GHQ could well obtain NoKo TN design. By the time unkil admits this, it would be too late. The way I see this, the game that PRC played in the 90s (equipping...

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@sudeepj: agree 100%. We can't measure Pak/PRC/NoKo based on what we view as unacceptable damage, and you have explained precisely why this is so.

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So far there is no MIRV/MRV testing. MRV (without independent targeting capability) would also suffice as long as 8 20-25kt can be loaded onto each missile. If testing is not an option, moving rapidly and openly on such a track is the best. Regarding the claim of dialing up to 325kt, that has to be ...

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@pankajs: the quantity required is clear: 8x20 kt = 500kt-1MT in destruction. So, lack of high yield must be compensated for by going in for 8 times the number of warheads in MRVed/MIRVed configurations (MRVed may suffice). There is no evidence that this is being done. If done, this is indeed one wa...

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Of course, if we have enough to make the others collapse, a situation of mutually assured destruction will exist, which will deter the other side from initiating anything that could eventually lead to a nuclear exchange. If you do not believe this, you should be questioning the need for any kind of ...

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@shiv: but powers with high yield weapons can inflict damage on a scale that makes a nation collapse. If TSP through NoKo gets this ability, and our response can only damage a few cities in the way you specified, the jihadist TSP generals may well find this an ``acceptable deal". The counter ca...

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@sudeepj: Yes, the 1998 failure would have given data that would help the next time we decide to go in for a test of a staged device (if such a decision is ever made). My apologies for what I said about RC. The fact remains that an honest assessment about the need for further testing should have bee...

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@shiv: Can you explain why DPRK felt the need for high yield when 20 kt should have sufficed for deterrence ?

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@ldev: how do we achieve a 300-350kt yield without new testing ? The sooner we do this the better.

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@shiv: Why did NoKo test for a bigger yield when 20kt should have sufficed ? As for us, yields required for credible deterrence change depending on several factors. One of these factors is what the adversary possesses. Prior to the recent NoKo developments, TSP possessed yields that were less than o...

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@mihir The same arguments were put up before the 1998 tests. At that time, TSP had proven fission warheads supplied by PRC. We were naked as far as deterrence goes. The 1998 tests redressed that balance. Some sanctions were faced and some price paid. The same imbalance in perms of yield is again bei...

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@KaranM: When the GDP rises and we have too much at stake in trade etc, the will to go for further tests and face sanctions will further decrease. What when even NoKo decides to stop testing after perfecting the H-bomb ? Not testing soon leaves TSP with NoKo provided proven H-bombs of nearly megaton...

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Is nuclear inferiority vis a vis a rabid TSP acceptable ? If not, we have to do what is to be done to redress that imbalance. If a 10-15 year recession/period of low growth is what we get for this, we should push ahead nevertheless, or risk living under TSP military hegemony. @Gerard Regarding SoKo:...

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What use is focussing on GDP etc. at the cost of freezing nuclear inferiority vis a vis TSP. The whole requirement is for a credible deterrent. That has to be achieved no matter what price is paid. Else a ``welfare state" that agrees to TSP hegemony and maintains minimal/zero national security ...

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@sudeepj Where is the evidence that the 1998 failure was due to the sophistication of the design and not some egregious error by Chidambaram and Co ? All in all, looks like Chidambaram had been scientifically dishonest to say the least. To think that such an individual managed to stay as PSA to PM f...

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@KaranM NoKo's close to a megaton TN test should change all these calculations (which were reasonable until this happened). Without testing, our deterrent vis a vis TSP would lack any credibility. Given PRC's aims of economic dominance, things like several 20-30 kt weapons on several cities could de...

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@sudeepj: These inferences count for nothing unless something is demonstrated. At the moment NoKo-TSP have a proven warhead with several 100 kt yield. Better than the 2T -3MT PRC warhead. This is the kind of warhead we must demonstrate too, unless you want to be a notional nuclear power faced with f...

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It is time we upgraded our proven yields by testing. The sooner the useless Chidambaram is booted out of his perch as PSA to PM, the better. The alternative is TSP escalation dominance and military overlordship. Economic considerations cannot be let to come in the way of something so critical to nat...

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All this about ``see the payload and guess our yield" amounts to khayali pulao. Ultimately, we have proven only boosted fission of around 20-25 kt yield. May have been enough around 1998. What is required now given the changed equation is a proven yield of several hundred kt. Even if achieved b...

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Not blaming ABV for not testing then. It is 13 years since ABV left. High time testing resumed give NoKo developments: NoKo has since outstripped us in warhead capability. It is better we wake up and smell the coffee. Regarding Pak and NoKo: the sensible thing is to assume the worst. It is the paran...

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@sudeepj: It seems R Chidambaram managed to goof up the TN test despite having the materials with him. This worthy still stays on as PSA to the PM past the age of 80 years giving platitudes like the adequacy of computer simulations for deterrence.

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