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by williams
11 Oct 2020 22:12
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread
Replies: 7700
Views: 837039

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

We should be studying Trump's treatment. A combination of early detection, overactive/precautionary treatment, and proper care should get people out of woods. Trump is 74 and overweight. The problem is, the same level of care or quality of treatment is not available to the general public even in mas...
by williams
30 Sep 2020 14:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

I am not sure if i am reading it correct - but India by amassing troops in Ladakh may have forced Chinese to amass and they would do so in Depsang plains as that is the only available space. Now with such huge concentration - if War breaks out then only choice for PLA with this huge mass is to atta...
by williams
27 Sep 2020 19:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Yes we now have an edge in the Chushul sector, we command the heights. But if we are forced to occupy the heights indefinitely, thats an almost unbearable extra cost imposed on the IA, while the Chinese sit in their warm tents. I am not sure if we should be celebrating the extra cost imposed on us....
by williams
25 Sep 2020 07:00
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K Union Territory-2019
Replies: 3724
Views: 688696

Re: J&K Union Territory-2019

How do we send him to Uighur camp? https://m.timesofindia.com/india/kashmiris-dont-feel-theyre-indian-farooq/articleshow/78286995.cms Farooq Abdullah says that Kashmiris would prefer China to India as they dont feel they are Indians... Is there a way we can push Uighur video en masse to Kashmir and...
by williams
24 Sep 2020 13:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

On second thoughts, who is this Shishir Gupta, of Hindustan Times. Who pays him? And who is this unnamed IAF officer that says that India has the equipment and ammo for 10 days only. It has to be a misinfo job. Why should the IAF tell such a thing even if it were to be true? So, lungi discarded, ma...
by williams
22 Sep 2020 05:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

what do they discuss over 12 hr sessions and that too having about 8-10 iterations of these sessions. Isnt it clear, you vacate or not vacate, we vacate or do not vacate, heck even if they want to discuss the map in detail it wont take so many of these long sessions, in a sense this tires out the C...
by williams
21 Sep 2020 13:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/indian-army-strengthens-hold-over-20-strategic-heights-in-eastern-ladakh-rafales-to-carry-out-sorties/story-MPufyYSGG0hoo6dCKUNThP.html The armies of India and China are set to hold the sixth round of Corps Commander-level talks in the next couple of days t...
by williams
21 Sep 2020 09:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Villagers help Indian troops face Chinese forces in Himalayas Both sides prepare for winter with little hope of diplomatic outcome to border dispute https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/20/villagers-help-indian-troops-face-chinese-forces-in-himalayas With unwieldy and overstuffed duffel bags,...
by williams
21 Sep 2020 02:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

It is quite funny when we hear comments like "India cannot afford it"... India has been on a constant fight with Pak & China for decades... even when we were almost bankrupt in 91. Now we the 5th largest GDP. when we could do with near bankruptcy... Ok first we all need to make a poin...
by williams
20 Sep 2020 21:37
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

LAC stand-off: Indian Army has occupied six new major heights But this is what we already know and have been discussing right? Looks like all the hills are already known and only clarification in the statement was about Black Hill... पतंगमक्तमसुरस्य मायया हृदा पश्यन्ति मनसा विपश्चितः । :wink: Loose...
by williams
19 Sep 2020 06:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

34L8ttiuSeg Quiet a hilarious post of how Chinese live in their posh post close to the blacktop from Shiv. And some of us here are dhoti shivering that we need to go for war to occupy Blacktop. Near my home town, some domestic elephants will be tied to a small post with some very weak chains. One o...
by williams
19 Sep 2020 05:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Based on India Today report .. https://twitter.com/YusufDFI/status/1306941865820712960 In the last four days, Indian positions have witnessed a daily stream of Chinese combat medics evacuate small numbers of PLA troops from high altitude posts in the Fingers area on stretchers . — Due to freezing t...
by williams
19 Sep 2020 01:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

So black and helmet top are still under Chinese control? Then what was the August 31 action all about where we supposedly made some crucial gains. Can dinner guru explain? Did you watch Rohit Vats' video on the topic? He posted it on this thread a while back. He explains the whole situation quite w...
by williams
18 Sep 2020 10:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

What are the odds that PLA has employed Pakis to monitor our communications channels. Pakis have decades of experience in Kashmir monitoring our comms and are familiar with our SOPs. Collaboration in this aspect between the Pakis and PLA cannot be ruled out. What sort of monitoring? We did a surgic...
by williams
18 Sep 2020 10:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

“India could be playing into the hands of China by trying to delink Depsang from the friction points to the south and allowing the PLA to get away with what it wants,” another officer said. “Unlike the Line of Control with Pakistan, which is physically held with permanent deployments, the only way ...
by williams
17 Sep 2020 22:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

On the contrary.... An Arjun in Ladakh....dream on sir... can they take tanks just like that..shouldnt they require a logistic/engineering support of recovery vehicles.testing their performance in such heights should also be very important.... and most importantly how do we plan to take it in the f...
by williams
17 Sep 2020 19:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If we moving so much logistics in to Ladakh, it means GoI is not confident of any disengagement. There doesn't seem to be any attempt from either side to prevent this from going in to the winter.. Now would the Chinis take it in to winter or force a change to prevent from going into winter. If talk...
by williams
17 Sep 2020 10:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/road-to-daulet-beg-oldi-will-allow-tank-movement-by-oct-15-as-army-prepares-for-ladakh-winter/story-2DMzLy5y1rZCyWvLWAd6tO.html With an aim to keep weapon deployment in East Ladakh to match the PLA build-up in occupied Aksai Chin, the BRO is expected to str...
by williams
16 Sep 2020 22:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Capturing the 40 odd mountain tops is a Siachen light in Pangong Tso. Due to terrain takes 10x to dislodge now. Yep this is a huge win and it will take a lot of time to understand the historic repurcurssion of this event. Telling tale what our nation can do with the right leadership. Right now Elev...
by williams
16 Sep 2020 11:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Here is the confirmation on what many on BRF were suspecting for a long time. Before Moscow pact, Indian & Chinese troops fired 100-200 rounds on Pangong north bank Was the outcome of the Jai Shankar- Yi meeting a “pact”? If seemed more like a recitation of platitudes and good intentions, which...
by williams
15 Sep 2020 19:50
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Replies: 8119
Views: 1079809

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

MHA in Lok Sabha: Total foreign contributions (including interest) received by NGOs/associations registered under FCRA: 2016-17: Rs 18,337.66 crore 2017-18: Rs 19,764.64 crore 2018-19: Rs 20,011.21 crore Quite shocking! Those are huge sums of money. It appears pretty desperate of foreign powers to ...
by williams
13 Sep 2020 13:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.newsweek.com/chinese-army-flops-india-what-will-xi-do-next-opinion-1531170 Slowly international press is catching up and Chins are getting public humiliation. I hope our leadership understand Chinese pyche. Talks will not yield anything. PLA needs to gain upper hand. Otherwise heads wil...
by williams
13 Sep 2020 12:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

From Spanger lake to Rutog is 85 km. You will have to control the road that leads to Rutog and probably take over control of Rutog to disrupt G219. Not an easy task. Just using IAF won't cut it. You need boots on the ground. You will have to do that while defending all other sectors of LAC. It is a ...
by williams
13 Sep 2020 02:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Can we block chinese ships in Indian Ocean? These scums need to be screwed in every possible way. What is US reaction to this all? Trump must be thinking of how to use this for his re-election. If he can show this as Chinese fault, I am sure it helps him at this time Yea all of that should be in th...
by williams
13 Sep 2020 00:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://twitter.com/detresfa_ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhtbaH5UcAEvXGq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ehtbdz2UcAIcEBb?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ehs78WwU0AEgJ_s?format=jpg&name=large So Indians are nowhere near Black top Black top is on t...
by williams
12 Sep 2020 23:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

So EAM talk is really India reading the riot act to Wang Yi and his cohorts? :rotfl: I don't see any de-escalation steps or even announcements of further talks. Looks like 5 point statement is provided as a face-saver for Chins to quietly withdraw.
by williams
12 Sep 2020 00:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The 5-point joint statement demolishes a great myth that has been built over decades: that India should be fearful of provoking China. If China was truly provoked, what India did on the Kailash Range should have resulted in nothing short of an all-out war. After all, India reoccupied a range that c...
by williams
11 Sep 2020 23:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

At this point, there are three military options we have. 1. Just accept the current border as a fait accompli. That means to implement in spirit whatever the Chinese and EAM agreed by pulling the troops back reciprocally. Except we are pulling back from the Chinese perspective of the LAC and the Chi...
by williams
11 Sep 2020 05:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Should we even quote anything from Gobar times and discuss their psyops? There is nothing called LAC - 1959. It is whatever they imagined after grabbing Tibet. After the 1962 War, the Chinese claimed they had withdrawn to 20 km behind the LAC of November 1959. So they want 20 km further inside their...
by williams
11 Sep 2020 01:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

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1962 Map of area of Chinese occupation. Looks like nothing much has changed in the northern sector from the Chinese POV. Hopefully, we do it differently this time.
by williams
10 Sep 2020 21:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Folks, I think ultimately it is the political leadership to blame for the mess that has been created from 1962 and the kind of process that has been put by the previous regimes to protect the LAC and appease the Chinese at the same time. So the Indian mind, whether it be MEA babus, China Study group...
by williams
10 Sep 2020 13:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

He is speaking about the induction of Rafale amidst a standoff Don't think so. He is saying "Recent Action near LAC" The induction of Rafale is not an action near LAC. Also he is mentioning a recent unfortunate incident, and not the prevailing circumstances. I saw the tweet it is what he ...
by williams
10 Sep 2020 13:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Dilbu wrote:Which incident is he referring to?

He is speaking about the induction of Rafale amidst a standoff
by williams
10 Sep 2020 03:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

So chinese built a road (from Ane La?) passing through the highest points of f4 to lower points where they can pitch tents but left the highest points open for Indians to occupy? :D So now the chinese tents on F4 cannot be supplied through F4 anymore. They have to be supplied from the beach by walk...
by williams
09 Sep 2020 22:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://twitter.com/nitingokhale/status/1303708165305892870?s=20 After the first phase deployment by infantry units at dawn on 30th Aug India managed to drive up tanks at Richin La in broad daylight that Sunday evening surprising the Chinese even more. Since then full consolidation has happened on ...
by williams
09 Sep 2020 12:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The problem for India is that any military operation that has the theme of pushing the Chinese to a certain line of control legitimizes that line. If there is a shooting war, India needs to maximize its position so that there is a negotiated settlement of the border. So the goal of any kind of milit...
by williams
09 Sep 2020 05:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

this whole waiting for 1st shots from India is silly to me. As suggested, they can always makeup stuff and go kinetic if they want. The reality seems to be - they don't want to go kinetic and are probing for weak spots... +1 So far we have discussed why we don't want to escalate. We need to figure ...
by williams
08 Sep 2020 21:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

If you watch News X , 3rd WW has already started. Do not pay attention to News X or TV9 etc Yea same old news recycled. Nothing new. The bottom line is we are well entrenched and fully armed in the heights. Let the puny Chins bring their pickaxes or dig in the foothills. We can clean the cloak when...
by williams
08 Sep 2020 10:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

So many attempts by the Chinese to climb up should tell us that we control the entire ridgeline. The other thing that was striking is why these guys were climbing with the same old primitive weapons. It seems the Chinese are hell bend not to escalate this into a shooting match. Are these even seriou...
by williams
08 Sep 2020 05:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2433
Views: 407461

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

It is funny when they say IA crossed the LAC when they never published their perspective of the LAC.

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