Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

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Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 03 Jan 2020 22:09

Naval Tejas Mk1

Last Page of Previous Thread ---> viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7690&start=680

ADA webpage on the Naval Tejas Mk1 and Tejas Mk2* ---> https://www.ada.gov.in/images/Navy.htm
*The Naval Tejas Mk2 program (viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7690) has been transitioned to the TEDBF (Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter) program ---> viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7791

Acronyms:
• NP ---> Naval Prototype
• KHN-T ---> Two Seat Naval Trainer
• KHN ---> Single Seat Naval Fighter

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A Detailed Look At The Design Evolution Of India’s Naval-LCA Mk1 Fighter
http://delhidefencereview.com/2019/10/1 ... 1-fighter/
By Indranil Roy and Nilesh Rane

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NAVAL TEJAS Mk 1

Milestones Achieved
• NP-1 (KHN-T-3001) conducted her first flight on 27 April 2012. The twin seater was piloted by Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (Retd) and Wing Commander Malteesh Prabhu.

• NP-2 (KHN-3002) conducted her first flight on 07 February 2015. The single seater was piloted by Captain Shivnath Dahiya (retd).

• NP-1 successfully completed her first arrested landing on 13 September 2019 at INS Hansa naval air station in Goa. The aircraft was piloted by Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (Retd) with ground assistance from Captain Shivnath Dahiya (Retd), Landing Safety Officer and Commander JD Raturi (Retd), Test Director. Please visit this link for more details on this achievement ---> https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1 ... 8304387072

• NP-1 undertook a second arrested landing, again on 13 September 2019, from INS Hansa. This time the aircraft was piloted by Captain Shivnath Dahiya (Retd). NP-2 successfully completed her first ski jump take-off and arrested landing, in the same flight, from INS Hansa on 29 September 2019. The aircraft took off at 1621 hours and was trapped at 1631 hours. NP-1 successfully completed her first night arrested landing on 12 November 2019 at 1845 hours from INS Hansa.

• NP-2 successfully completed her first arrested landing on the aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya on 11 January 2020. The aircraft was piloted by Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (Retd). Please visit this link for more details on this achievement ---> https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1 ... 9244834817

• NP-2 successfully completed her first maiden ski jump take-off from the aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya on 12 January 2020. The aircraft was piloted by Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (Retd). Please visit this link for more details on this achievement ---> https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1 ... 2380361728

• NP-1 successfully completed her first arrested landing and maiden ski jump take-off from INS Vikramaditya on 14 January 2020. The aircraft was piloted by Captain Shivnath Dahiya (Retd). Please visit this link for more details on this achievement ---> https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 0067688448

Production Run
Construction Number ... Serial Number ... Aircraft First Flight ... Pilot(s)
• NP-1 ... KHN-T-3001 ... 27-Apr-12 ... Commodore Jaideep Maolankar (IN) and Wing Commander Malteesh Prabhu (IAF)
• NP-2 ... KHN-3002 ... 07-Feb-15 ... Captain Shivnath Dahiya (IN)
• NP-5 ... KHN-T-30XX ... trainer variant
• NP-6 ... KHN-30XX ... fighter variant
• NP-7 ... KHN-30XX ... fighter variant

Design Specifications
Length: 13.2 metres
Height: 4.4 metres
Wingspan: 8.2 metres
Wing Area: 40 square metres
Empty Weight: 7.5 Tons
Maximum Take Off Weight: 13.2 Tons
Internal Fuel: 2.5 Tons
Engine: General Electric F404-IN20 turbofan with military thrust of 54 kN and afterburner thrust of 84 kN.

Performance
Maximum Speed: Mach 1.4
Service Ceiling: 50,000 feet
G Limits: +8g / -3.5g

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Videos - Naval Tejas Mk1

First Ski Jump Take Off of Naval Tejas from INS Vikramaditya on 12 January 2020



First Arrested Landing of Naval Tejas on INS Vikramaditya on 11 January 2020



First Arrested Landing of Naval Tejas at INS Hansa on 13 September 2019



First Ski Jump Take Off of Naval Tejas at INS Hansa on 21 December 2014



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Photographs - Naval Tejas Mk1

First Arrested Landing of Naval Tejas at INS Hansa on 13 September 2019
Photo below is courtesy of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd ---> https://twitter.com/HALHQBLR

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Naval Tejas in Air Superiority weapons configuration
Photo below is courtesy of Aeronautical Development Agency ---> https://www.ada.gov.in/ and Nilesh Rane

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 03 Jan 2020 22:45

Naval Tejas at striking distance for deck operations from INS Vikramaditya
https://ssbprep.com/naval-tejas-at-stri ... kramaditya
30 December 2019

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 03 Jan 2020 22:47

Naval version of India’s Tejas fighter to conduct maiden flight from carrier
https://thediplomat.com/2019/12/naval-v ... m-carrier/
05 December 2019

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Rakesh » 03 Jan 2020 22:48

Official DRDO tweet from 29 November 2019

https://twitter.com/DRDO_India/status/1 ... 37282?s=20 ---> One more step in launch capability expansion for LCA Navy.

Two BVR plus Two CCM missiles.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 03 Jan 2020 22:57

Carrier landing imminent. Within a week or two.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby ArjunPandit » 03 Jan 2020 23:11

Indranil wrote:Carrier landing imminent. Within a week or two.

can't wait for it...
jumping too fast..but is there any possibility of orders of NLCA Mk1s may be few in no.s for active deployments, I am sure it would give them good data and experience with western engines, airframe availability rates, maintenance practices.....apart from air defence.might free up some Migs ..tejas has demonstrated good availability in IAF exericses..so it would save some airframe hours...had it been china they would have ordered 5 sqdns by now...

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 03 Jan 2020 23:18

No chance of orders. ADA pitching it as a naval LIFT. Will be the best naval LIFT in town :-)

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kakarat » 03 Jan 2020 23:22

All we can do is hope Navy gets impressed by its performance on the carrier and decides to order atleast a few as LIFT

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Vivek K » 03 Jan 2020 23:44

ArjunPandit wrote:
Indranil wrote:Carrier landing imminent. Within a week or two.

can't wait for it...
jumping too fast..but is there any possibility of orders of NLCA Mk1s may be few in no.s for active deployments, I am sure it would give them good data and experience with western engines, airframe availability rates, maintenance practices.....apart from air defence.might free up some Migs ..tejas has demonstrated good availability in IAF exericses..so it would save some airframe hours...had it been china they would have ordered 5 sqdns by now...

Totally agree - China would have built 200 LCA MK1A for IAF and 50-100 for Navy!!

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Khalsa » 04 Jan 2020 16:06

Kakarat wrote:All we can do is hope Navy gets impressed by its performance on the carrier and decides to order atleast a few as LIFT


Agreed or as a Growler !!

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby brar_w » 04 Jan 2020 23:34

Khalsa wrote:
Kakarat wrote:All we can do is hope Navy gets impressed by its performance on the carrier and decides to order atleast a few as LIFT


Agreed or as a Growler !!


Not a good idea for very obvious reasons..

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Khalsa » 05 Jan 2020 16:19

:-) :-)
I shall continue to dream .....

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby brar_w » 05 Jan 2020 22:18

Khalsa wrote::-) :-)
I shall continue to dream .....


The role of the Growler is stand off, stand-in and escort EW/EA support and SEAD/DEAD over land. With the type of payload, range, loiter, and refueling capability (besides just a recovery tanker) that the mission requires it is quite likely that that mission would likely not be addressed from a STOBAR carrier. A Growler routinely takes off with 3 heavy EA pods, wingtip receivers, weapons, and 2 large EFT's. And with it gets a TOS of about 30 minutes (at around 600-700 km away from carrier) before it needs a tanker hit. Unlike strike aircraft, dedicated SEAD/DEAD aircraft do not have the luxury of shedding payload/fuel to get better performance. They carry the draggy payload through all phases of their mission.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 05 Jan 2020 23:20

Khalsaji, dream about it with a TEDBF in mind and then it is perfectly possible.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Khalsa » 06 Jan 2020 12:25

brar_w wrote:
Khalsa wrote::-) :-) I shall continue to dream .....

The role of the Growler is stand off, stand-in and escort EW/EA support and SEAD/DEAD over land. With the type of payload, range, loiter, and refueling capability (besides just a recovery tanker) that the mission requires it is quite likely that that mission would likely not be addressed from a STOBAR carrier. A Growler routinely takes off with 3 heavy EA pods, wingtip receivers, weapons, and 2 large EFT's. And with it gets a TOS of about 30 minutes (at around 600-700 km away from carrier) before it needs a tanker hit. Unlike strike aircraft, dedicated SEAD/DEAD aircraft do not have the luxury of shedding payload/fuel to get better performance. They carry the draggy payload through all phases of their mission.

Indeed Brar Sir.
Can I ask a question is that image smudged to remove some detail from the aircraft ?

Indranil wrote:Khalsaji, dream about it with a TEDBF in mind and then it is perfectly possible.

Fair Enough

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby brar_w » 06 Jan 2020 20:59

Yeah that image appears to be from a youtube screenshot ..

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby ArjunPandit » 10 Jan 2020 21:17

Indranil wrote:Carrier landing imminent. Within a week or two.


Tarmak/AK reporting from FB that "with multiple bolters performed, the NLCA will land on the deck of VikA any day now...saw it on FB, can't post here.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby ArjunPandit » 11 Jan 2020 02:53

From ak again..
SOURCES: Support crew onboard INSV; equipment loaded; computers fixed and there's last-lap action somewhere between Karwar-Goa. The much-awaited deck-landing of #NLCA MIGHT be tomorrow or very soon. COULD be an' unofficial one.'

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Indranil » 11 Jan 2020 02:56

He is right.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby suryag » 11 Jan 2020 05:14

sir for the uninitiated does bolter mean approach the runway touch down and then fly away(tail hook folded at all times?)

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Vips » 11 Jan 2020 09:00

Navy choppers for HAL unlikely, jet order on the cards.

The defence ministry is likely to remove Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) from Rs 21,000-crore project to manufacture naval helicopters that had been reserved for the private sector. But the government-owned entity is set to get a mega order to produce 83 new Light Combat Aircraft in the coming weeks, taking its order book beyond Rs 1lakh crore.

The naval utility helicopter project, being processed under the strategic partnership model, is now set to go to the next stage, with the navy shortlisting four domestic companies that would be eligible to tie up with three shortlisted foreign vendors for a competition to manufacture 111 choppers in India.

As reported by ET, HAL had made a last-ditch effort to enter the competition by writing to the defence ministry last month. The Defence PSU’s bid had earlier been rejected as the tender documents had clearly mentioned that only private sector companies are eligible. Tata, Mahindra, Adani and Bharat Forge have been identified as companies that meet the financial and technical criteria while foreign vendors Airbus, Sikorsky and Kamov have
been shortlisted as potential technology partners. Once the project is given a go ahead — likely by next week — the Navy will go to the next stage of tendering that will include flight trials and an eventual evaluation of commercial bids.

However, HAL’s hands are set to be full for the next five years, with the government likely to sign a deal for 83 of the LCA Mk 1 fighter jets (target of production is at 16 jets per year)that is expected to be in the range of Rs 40,000 crore.

The signing of the deal could take place at the upcoming DefExpo in Lucknow early next month, though sources say that first payments for the contract are likely to be made in the next financial year.

The LCA order — which has been in the works for the past two years — will swell the order books of the government owned entity to beyond Rs 1 lakh crore. According to statistics shared in Parliament, the current order book is pegged at almost Rs 60,000 crore.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Dileep » 11 Jan 2020 11:03

But there was news today that Vicky sailed off into the see to check out the Pakis and Yellow pakis drinking Rooh Afza in the Ocean

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Bhaskar_T » 11 Jan 2020 11:31

Vishnu Som tweets. Livefist tweets same. NLCA lands on INS Vikramaditya. Spokesperson Navy also confirms.

@IndianNavy - The developmental LCA (N) MK1 achieved an important milestone today with the successful Arrested Landing on board the #IndianNavy aircraft carrier #INSVikramaditya.
@PMOIndia
@DefenceMinIndia
@SpokespersonMoD
@DRDO_India
@PIB_India @DDNational

@IndianNavy - With this feat, the indigenously developed niche technologies specific to deck based fighter operations have been proven, which will now pave the way to develop and manufacture the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter for the #IndianNavy.

https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 44320?s=19

https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 13504?s=19



@VishnuNDTV:- Sources - Tejas Naval prototype carries out a successful landing on the deck of INS Vikramaditya, India's aircraft carrier, snagging the arrester wire. Huge achievement.

https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1 ... 76960?s=19

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby nash » 11 Jan 2020 11:34

From another source

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/121 ... 88416?s=19

More details awaited

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Postby Rakesh » 11 Jan 2020 11:54

Kudos to all involved in this great event. A proud moment for all Indians the world over! Jai Hind!

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kakarat » 11 Jan 2020 12:06

https://twitter.com/DRDO_India/status/1 ... 2790852608
After completing extensive trials on the Shore Based Test Facility, DRDO, ADA developed LCA Navy did an arrested landing on INS Vikramaditya succesfully today 11 jan 2020 at 10:02 hours. Commodore Jaideep Maolankar did the maiden landing.

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Postby Kakarat » 11 Jan 2020 12:17

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/12 ... 9421434880
After successful landing on INSV, the crew now preparing #NLCA for the much complex ski-jump takeoff. MIGHT happen today. Utmost caution being applied as it is the first attempt. "Subsequent ones we can do quickly," says an official.

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Postby Rakesh » 11 Jan 2020 12:22

Congrats to Mao Sir. You have written your name in history! A light hearted moment from KPS Sir.

https://twitter.com/realkaypius/status/ ... 54818?s=21 —> Overheard in the crew room:

"Aaj mere paas Mirage hai, Sukhoi hai, Rafale hai, Brahmos bhi hai...tere paas kya hai?"

"Mere paas 'Mao' hai"

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Postby Rakesh » 11 Jan 2020 12:33

The Navy’s official Twitter account is emphasizing the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter!

https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 13504?s=21 —> With this feat, the indigenously developed niche technologies specific to deck based fighter operations have been proven, which will now pave the way to develop and manufacture the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter for the Indian Navy.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby abhik » 11 Jan 2020 12:38

Congrats to all involved, Waiting with bated breath for video and pics.

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Postby Rakesh » 11 Jan 2020 12:39

HISTORY: India’s LCA Makes 1st Landing On Aircraft Carrier Deck
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2020/01 ... -deck.html

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Aditya_V » 11 Jan 2020 13:18

Any idea how long it will the LCA Navy Tejas to take off from INS Vikram Aditya- will it be later today or will it spend some time in the lower deck hangers?

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kakarat » 11 Jan 2020 13:27

Aditya_V wrote:Any idea how long it will the LCA Navy Tejas to take off from INS Vikram Aditya- will it be later today or will it spend some time in the lower deck hangers?


Kakarat wrote:https://twitter.com/writetake/status/1215881089421434880
After successful landing on INSV, the crew now preparing #NLCA for the much complex ski-jump takeoff. MIGHT happen today. Utmost caution being applied as it is the first attempt. "Subsequent ones we can do quickly," says an official.


I am not sure if LCA Navy will fit the lifts on INS Vikramaditya, Can some expert confirm will it?
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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kartik » 11 Jan 2020 13:27

Congratulations to all the people that have contributed to this achievement! It is a truly historic achievement for Indian aviation. I sincerely hope that Cmde Mao goes on to become Naval Chief someday.

Someone monitor Surendra Ahuja's twitter to see if there is any reaction to this feat. With Navy Spokesperson clearly mentioning development of a twin engine Deck Based Fighter, Boeing India will not be happy.

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby Kakarat » 11 Jan 2020 14:01

Naval LCA lands on board INS Vikramaditya, scripts history

Indian Navy’s Light Combat Aircraft (NLCA) undertook its maiden carrier landing on the deck of
the mighty INS Vikramaditya successfully, scripting history.
Naval sources conrmed to Onmanorama that the NP-2 (naval prototype-2) from the NLCA ight-line made
an arrested-landing at 10:02 am on Saturday.
The ight was piloted by Cmde J A Maolankar, Chief Test Pilot with National Flight Test Centre (NFTC) in
Bengaluru.
The other ight crew members were Capt Shivnath Dahiya, Cdr J D Raturi and Cdr Ankur Jain.
As reported by Onmanorma earlier, the pilots have completed close to 30 arrested landings and more than 50
ski-jumps at SBTF ahead of approaching the aircraft carrier.
As this report went live, the crew was preparing NLCA for the next big task of a ski-jump take-off from INS
Vikramaditya.
“The aircraft is on the ship now. It is going through checks before doing maiden ski-jump take off from the
ship. Most likely, we are attempting to undertake the mission today itself. Have to be extra careful before
maiden ski-jump. Subsequently we can do much quicker take-offs,” an ofcial told Onmanorama

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby nam » 11 Jan 2020 14:04

Rakesh wrote:The Navy’s official Twitter account is emphasizing the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter!

https://twitter.com/indiannavy/status/1 ... 13504?s=21 —> With this feat, the indigenously developed niche technologies specific to deck based fighter operations have been proven, which will now pave the way to develop and manufacture the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter for the Indian Navy.

From horse's mouth itself!

TEDBF is not a speculation anymore. Time got IN to commit the money.. and watch IAF come running

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby nam » 11 Jan 2020 14:11

Lesson for the nation, focus on the objective, no matter how long it takes for a 3 legged cheetah to jump on a carrier..

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Re: Naval Tejas Mk1: News & Discussion - 03 January 2020

Postby mody » 11 Jan 2020 14:17

A truly historic day. Lungi dance time.
Any videos of the take off and landing?
Hope the navy orders at least 8-16 Naval LCA, to add to the fleet along with the 44 Mig-29K.
4-6 each on both aircraft carriers, plus reserves.


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