2014 Commonwealth Games

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Suraj » 01 Aug 2014 23:45

Deans wrote:I am a lot less impressed by UK's sporting prowess (particularly after the huge spend on 'Team Britain' in the run up to 2012),
after seeing that virtually all their wrestlers and the fair no of boxers & gymnasts are from the former CIS. Australia has several too.

Australia's medalists in weightlifting are Cameroonian. Not just from Cameroon, but former competitors for that country in previous CWGs. They are 'refugees' to Australia, taking refuge in multimilllion dollars offers to defect, no doubt.

Two of the three boxing semifinalists so far are through to final - Laishram Sarita Devi in womens lightweight and Laishram Devendro Singh in men's light fly. Mandeep Jhangra and Vijender Singh coming up next in their respective semis. Pinki Jangra lost her women's fly semi.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Suraj » 02 Aug 2014 01:32

Both Vijender and Mandeep won their semifinals too, so we have 4 boxing finalists tomorrow - 3 men and one woman.

Deepika and Joshna are in the women's double squash final as well.

Sharath and Arputharaj lost the TT men's doubles final .

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Deans » 02 Aug 2014 09:34

Suraj wrote:
Deans wrote:I am a lot less impressed by UK's sporting prowess (particularly after the huge spend on 'Team Britain' in the run up to 2012),
after seeing that virtually all their wrestlers and the fair no of boxers & gymnasts are from the former CIS. Australia has several too.

Australia's medalists in weightlifting are Cameroonian. Not just from Cameroon, but former competitors for that country in previous CWGs. They are 'refugees' to Australia, taking refuge in multimilllion dollars offers to defect, no doubt.


True. I did a quick search and found that 5 Canadian gymnasts are from CIS/East Europe. The 5 Gold Medalist has dual Russian-Canadian citizenship and trains with the Russian team.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Singha » 02 Aug 2014 09:41

eastern europe is not doing well economically.
africa is in perpetual chaos.

this presents an opportunity for canada, australia to cherry pick sports talent and coaches too. I am sure the east european coaches would find more funding there. so I would not blame them for seeking better life.

but Bartania is clearly fishing for medals here - its a large population, not canada or australia case. they are not particularly immigrant friendly except to mirpuri pakis and arabs.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby krishnan » 02 Aug 2014 10:15

The match between canada and england was really funny..

canada player was some Li and coach a Singh :mrgreen:

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Ranjani Brow » 02 Aug 2014 17:38

Trailing 0-2, Indian Men's Hockey Team beat New Zealand 3-2 in CWG Semi-final.
One more SILVER (Final is against Aus so this seems like a logical conclusion :mrgreen: ).

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 18:54

L Devi gets a Silver in boxing.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 18:56

D Laishram also gets a silver medal.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 19:00

S Khatun gets a bronze medal in women's powerlifting.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby KLP Dubey » 02 Aug 2014 19:02

chetak wrote:Rohit Sir,

It is indeed the most annoying aspect of these games...even when Sushil Bhai won...the media seemed more interested in the bronze guy from Wales. Same goes for judo commentary that Neil Adams was a world class player once upon a time but, now I have lost complete respect for him, such snubbary towards Judokas from India while commentating..

Some total of all the commentary from all the competitions where Indians have won medals has been that they won it because so and so got unlucky/had tough draws/not his day & blah blah!.. I mean do these guys have no sense at all...how can you demean a medallist like this? :evil: :cry:


jaane do, bechara.

The empire in which the sun does not rise any more anyway has very few things to crow about these days.


If you add the tally from England, Scotland, Wales, NI, etc it is clear that this is an event for Little Britain to show its vestiges of glory. Probably even some duffers from outlying isles may have won a medal or two.

I think India should completely withdraw from this Commonwealth nonsense (including the games). Focus on Asian and Olympic games.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 19:07

IMHO Commonwealth games is a good exposure at international level for younger kids. Experienced one's should only focus on Asiad and Olympics!

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby ManjaM » 02 Aug 2014 19:22

KLP Dubey wrote:.
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I think India should completely withdraw from this Commonwealth nonsense (including the games). Focus on Asian and Olympic games.


India should not withdraw from the CW Games. Competing at CWG doesnt distract from OG and AG. On the contrary, it can only be beneficial. The exposure to the international stage and the opportunity to win international medals are the only real benefits of being in the CW as it is. Let CW countries go around hosting it, while we use the opportunity to get better and win more medals. once in a while we have to host it too, thats the cost of business. International medals make a big difference to the life of athletes whether through monetary gifts, promotions or sports quota college seats. Dont deny that opportunity.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 20:10

India wins Gold medal in Women's double Squash.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Suraj » 02 Aug 2014 21:36

hecky wrote:Trailing 0-2, Indian Men's Hockey Team beat New Zealand 3-2 in CWG Semi-final.
One more SILVER (Final is against Aus so this seems like a logical conclusion :mrgreen: ).

I did not expect them to beat the much higher ranked Kiwis either. We 'only' lost 2-4 to Australia in the pool stage. Hoping they can find redemption for losing in Dhyan Chand's own stadium 4 years ago.

Disappointing performance from PV Sindhu. She twice lost to the lower ranked Michelle Li, in the team event (costing us the match) and now again in her singles semis.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Ranjani Brow » 02 Aug 2014 21:55

PV Sindhu is just 19 yo and ranked 10 in the World. :shock: :shock:
A serious medal prospect in Rio and Tokyo.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby disha » 02 Aug 2014 21:57

^P V Sindhu has immense talent, more than Saina. Has the genes (height etc)., and is only 19. By comparison, Saina is 24 years old - that 5 year on the circuit does make a difference!

However one thing that Saina has hon'ed and PV needs to work on that (and that is where CWG helps) is the will to win. Some people call it "killer instinct" - but I consider that as mis-nomer. It is simply the will - Saina exudes it - it does not show up in stats - but the way Saina goes around beating the Chinese and putting fear into them - that just needs to be seen to be believed (kind of a thrill runs when you see Saina playing).

At the same time we do need more Badminton players, the beachhead which Saina has established needs to be sustained! I have hopes for PV, she is still a teen!!

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Suraj » 02 Aug 2014 22:24

Shout out to Siddharth Pardeshi, who made the men's 10m platform diving final. Not just that, but he's just 17.
http://results.glasgow2014.com/event/di ... final.html

While we may have fallen quite a bit in the gold count, not only do we have a lot of silvers, but many of the medals are from juniors . In addition, we have a medals in powerlifting, gymnastics and even a squash gold. Spectacular performance from our young contingent.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 22:29

Swimming and Diving is dominated by USA and Australia. In Asian games it is anybody's game!!!

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby ManjaM » 02 Aug 2014 22:46

Laishram boxing Paddy Barnes right now. First round, both boxers have come out swinging.
The feed sucks though, really patchy.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Suraj » 02 Aug 2014 23:19

3 out of 4 boxing finalists have lost now. Vijender remains. Jangra got TKOed I think, but he's just 21. Hope he learns from it and does better in AG/OG.

Rahelu wins silver in men's heavyweight powerlifting.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby SBajwa » 02 Aug 2014 23:27

What is powerlifting? Can somebody describe it? How is it different from weightlifting?

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby ManjaM » 02 Aug 2014 23:50

powerlifting is usually all or atleast 2 of the following - Back squat, deadlift and bench press. The highest total wins. Looks like Powerlifting is part of the Paralympic CWG this time, so looks like its bench press only for CWG
Weightlifting is the total of - Clean & jerk and Snatch.

Also powerlifting is not an Olympic sport.
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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Ashokk » 02 Aug 2014 23:56

Vijender looses, gets silver

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby amol » 02 Aug 2014 23:57

India out of the 4x400 womens' relay. Baton dropped at the second hand-over in heavy rain. They were the defending champs, but got off to a pretty slow start. :(

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby KrishG » 03 Aug 2014 00:09

Englistanis won all 4 boxing finals today..Vijender should quit acting and focus on his boxing skills!

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Prasad » 03 Aug 2014 00:16

Piss poor defense from the two Indian boxers. The two English boxers had the same strategy.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Suraj » 03 Aug 2014 00:21

The athletics stadium conditions is poor. The track is waterlogged and there's one guy trying to fix it with a roller.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby chaanakya » 03 Aug 2014 08:46

Senior members of India's CWG contingent arrested in Glasgow


In a major embarrassment, two senior members of the Indian contingent for the Commonwealth Games were arrested by the police in Glasgow on Saturday, official sources told HT.

The police said two male members – aged 45 and 49 – were arrested on charges of alleged assault; one of them in the Glasgow city centre and the other in the west of the city.


As per standard practice, Police Scotland did not reveal their names, or give further details of the incidents that led to their arrest.

However, HT understands that one of the two arrested is a top official of the Indian Olympic Association, and the other is a wrestling referee.


The sources said they will remain in police custody over the weekend, and will be produced before a Glasgow magistrate on Monday.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby saip » 03 Aug 2014 12:52

I did not realize that English badminton player Ouseph (Ashwin beat him in semis) was of Indian descent and practiced at Bangalore Padukone academy.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby saip » 03 Aug 2014 12:56

If the arrest is for "alleged assault" why did they put this in the article?

In the UK, the alcohol limit for drivers is 80 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, 35 microgrammes per 100 millilitres of breath or 107 milligrammes per 100 millilitres of urine.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby chaanakya » 03 Aug 2014 13:14

According to NDTV, wrestling referee Virender Malik has been arrested for alleged sexual assault while Rajiv Mehta has been arrested for alleged drunken driving.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 536689.cms

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Supratik » 03 Aug 2014 17:26

Kashyap - gold - badminton.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby sum » 03 Aug 2014 19:03

^^ Is our boxing standard actually gone down (compared to Wrestling/Shooting) since the show looked much more effective 4 years back and even at Beijing!

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Rahul M » 03 Aug 2014 19:23

sum, our boxing authorities are in a state of flux, they were de-recognized by AIBA and boxers had to compete as pvt individuals in previous tournaments. many national meets were not organised. the preparation is non-existent beyond what athletes managed on their own. people like vijender also had to involve themselves in getting the new federation recognized.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby suryag » 03 Aug 2014 21:49

Gopichand should be given Bharat ratna, not only was he accomplished personally but he has helped create a saina a kashyap and a sindhu and a lot more in store

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby sum » 04 Aug 2014 08:33

suryag wrote:Gopichand should be given Bharat ratna, not only was he accomplished personally but he has helped create a saina a kashyap and a sindhu and a lot more in store

^^^ +++1

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Sridhar » 04 Aug 2014 13:18

Not to forget S.M.Arif, who has discovered and nurtured much of the current talent including Saina Nehwal, Jwala Gutta and P. Kashyap, besides Gopichand himself. If Hyderabad is a key bar for Indian badminton, Arif must get a significant part of the credit. What Gopichand is doing is nothing short of fabulous, of course.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Singha » 04 Aug 2014 13:46

how is the Prakash Padukoke academy in blr doing? does the man himself coach nowadays?
they have a large facility near millers road / dickenson road.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby Singha » 04 Aug 2014 14:15

ibn

Two athletes from India, Vipin Kasana and Ravinder Singh Khaira, made it to the final of the javelin throw competition at the Glasgow Commonwealth Games that concluded on Sunday; but they didn't participate in the medal round. The reason is not known.

Kasana and Singh, who come from Uttar Pradesh and Punjab respectively, chose to be spectators for the final - not making a single attempt to throw at the Hampden Park, watching Kenya's Julius Yego take gold.

On Friday, both Singh and Kasana finished sixth in their qualifying groups with throws of 72.18 and 71.95 respectively; however, the standings after the final on Sunday had NM (no mark) against their names since they did not participate.

While the two throwers shamed the nation by not participating, discus thrower Vikas Gowda endured rainy conditions at Hampden Park to strike gold, with Seema Punia striking silver in the women's competition of the same event.

Triple-jumper Arpinder Singh then added a bronze to India's athletics contingent that returned from Glasgow with three medals.

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Re: 2014 Commonwealth Games

Postby sum » 04 Aug 2014 15:11

Two athletes from India, Vipin Kasana and Ravinder Singh Khaira, made it to the final of the javelin throw competition at the Glasgow Commonwealth Games that concluded on Sunday; but they didn't participate in the medal round. The reason is not known.

Kasana and Singh, who come from Uttar Pradesh and Punjab respectively, chose to be spectators for the final - not making a single attempt to throw at the Hampden Park, watching Kenya's Julius Yego take gold.

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