Telangana Monitor

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jan 2011 22:51

Politicsparty site credits the wisdom of SG in not creating Telangana!

LINK

So where was this wisdom in December 2009?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Jan 2011 23:17

updated Telangana simulation is uploaded - http://www.scribd.com/doc/46270690/TelanganaModel

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Jan 2011 23:20

ramana wrote:Politicsparty site credits the wisdom of SG in not creating Telangana!

LINK

So where was this wisdom in December 2009?

I dont know this infatuation of Politics party guy with SG. He presents as if she is some savior from heavens. Even when she or RG commits a blunder, the blame is thrown on to the coterie/advisers.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jan 2011 23:27

Its the dynasty model. The dynasty is above blame, but success is all due to dynasty.

BTW fellows like that will trash the dynasty if they sense its decline.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Jan 2011 09:39

United Andhra best option: panel

While it has offered as many as six options — to ostensibly meet the aspirations of those calling for a separate state and balance competing demands — it has suggested that in the interests of “stable development” in the future, a united Andhra Pradesh is the best way forward.

Sources told The Indian Express that the committee, in its 500-page report, has argued that on the basis of “backwardness” alone, it was difficult to push for a separate Telangana state — the argument used most commonly to make a case for it.

In fact, sources said that a detailed examination of socio-economic variables in all regions of the state led the committee to conclude that there is no material basis for treating only the Telangana districts as “backward.”

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 05 Jan 2011 21:23

who now going to anything for development sir. T leaders want power and earn money by looting Hyderabad real estate and extorsion. So no one is going to accept the figures shown in the report. you any one of you see the TV news discussions regularly the standered line of the TRS is that all the data is false and created by non telangana invadors. So already ground is there with TRS for not accepting the report. Further this is now emotional movement with little logic and reason.

One way or other the matter will be decided based on what is INC think benificial to it. Further is allies of Congress in UPA ready to accept the decision of the INC in case it wants to divide the state. Pawar has equelly old Vidharbha and Mamatha has Gurkhaland and INC may not be so willing to go alone with BJP and create Telangana and create rift with its allies. So we are wrong if we think AP only will be factors in INC decision.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2011 21:42

I think the system will allow selective loot of the region to keep them content. I think they will propose a Telenagana Regional Development Council as a semi-autonomous body to which elections will be held. And it will get to spend the budget allocated to it from the bigger State budget. And if TRS wins to this body they can have their craving. They might get a coaltion and share the spoils with the other representatives (or rascals).
Right now TRS is doing illegal loot under cover of extortion.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 05 Jan 2011 22:08

ramana wrote:I think the system will allow selective loot of the region to keep them content. I think they will propose a Telenagana Regional Development Council as a semi-autonomous body to which elections will be held. And it will get to spend the budget allocated to it from the bigger State budget. And if TRS wins to this body they can have their craving. They might get a coaltion and share the spoils with the other representatives (or rascals).
Right now TRS is doing illegal loot under cover of extortion.

If development is not an issue why do we need a development council. District-wise development councils make sense as power can be dissolved to much lower granularity and focus can be put on underdeveloped districts such as Srikakulam, Mahabubnagar, etc.

If case is made as Muppalla link above suggested that otherside will push to keep status-quo with some sort of monitoring council.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jan 2011 22:15

You need to provide a channel to loot. And developmment is a good word. Till now INC used that to loot the whole country. Cant say Telangana slush fund?

The only caveat is they should get elected to that body so that its alteast representative to the people of Telangana and they can throw them out as needed.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 Jan 2011 22:22

^ Excellently put Ramanaji.

KCR-system needs political space to appear as victors and manage some form of Telangana resources. What becomes of it is Telangana population's fate. Like you said, using democratic process is the lesser-evil way for looting.

By the way, I came across an excellent writeup on fate, action in some book. will post it in Epics/Kathas thread tonight.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jan 2011 03:20

The report will be uploaded on the home ministry website, mha.gov.in, at 11.15am

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 06 Jan 2011 03:30

http://eenadu.net/advancepanelhtml.asp? ... anel5a.htm

MSR, present RTC Chairman, former PCC president, "praying" for Minister for Civil Supplies Sridhar Babu, former Speaker Sripaada Rao's son to be made CM.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Jan 2011 06:05

Sonia Gandhi has virtually taken away the political management of the Telangana issue from Chiddu hands and given charge to Pranab Da

In a move which could further rock the United Progressive Alliance and create fresh fissures at the highest level in the government, union Home Minister P Chidambaram has fired a salvo against Finance Minister Pranab mukherjee on the issue of price rise saying that inflation is the biggest tax which the people have to face.

Sources in the government say that Chidambaram's attack on the finance minister comes after Sonia Gandhi has virtually taken away the political management of the Telangana issue from PC's hands and given charge to Pranab Mukherjee. With the Srikrishna report being made public on Thursday, the government had called its party MLAs and ministers from Andhra Pradesh to Delhi to hold meetings and discuss the response to the report.

In the morning when Andhra Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy met Sonia Gandhi, she asked him to meet Pranab Mukherjee to discuss the Telangana issue. A meeting of the party leaders from Andhra was held with Mukherjee late on Wednesday evening.

The fact that Pranab Mukherjee is handling the political fallout in the party and will devise a response on how to deal with the situation is clearly seen as a snub to Chidambaram, who as the home minister has called a meeting of all parties from Andhra Pradesh on Thursday to discuss the issue. Despite the home minister writing to the Telangana Rashtra Samiti twice, they have refused to attend on the grounds that only the creation of Telangana would satisfy them and that is their only demand.

What has sent shock waves through the government and the party is the manner in which Chidambaram has taken on Mukherjee over price rise saying it was the biggest problem facing the people. Congress leaders see this as an ominous sign in the manner in which a virtual free for all has erupted at the highest level in the government with no one to exercise any control over the goings on.

It may be recalled that it was Chidambaram who precipitated the Telanagana crisis by issuing a statement favouring the creation of a separate state and since then Andhra Pradesh has been on the boil. The statement was issued at a time when the TRS lader Chandrashekhar Rao was on a fast and had become critical leading to the home minister giving a nervous reaction which was seen to be counter productive.

The seasoned and experienced Pranab Mukherjee was known to have been upset at that time with Chidambaram's statement and sources close to him said he felt it was not a well thought out or political reaction as the issue should have been deferred rather than give an assurance of a separate state of Telangana.

In another interesting development, All India Congress Committee general secretary Digvijaya Singh has raised the Bofors issue saying that the timing was very intriguing. Singh said the case was to be heard on January 4 and instead it came up on December 31. He said that the appeal filed by Win Chaddha's son pertains only to Chaddha, so how could Quattrochi's name figure in the assessment order.

According to Digvijaya Singh, Win Chaddha's assessment order did has no mention of Quattrochi, "so how does his name finally find its way in?"

While the Bofors issue and Quattrochi has once again embarrassed the congress president, sources say there is a deliberate attempt in sections of the government to create such an effect and raise the Bofors bogey whenever it suits them.

Sources in the party say that the Bofors issue would periodically come up during Narasimha Rao's regime and now similarly in Dr Manmohan Singh's tenure in a manner which has led to speculation on what exactly is going on within the government. The fact that a huge power tussle is on, is now obvious but how far it goes and how much it damages the party and the government remains to be seen.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 06 Jan 2011 06:57

To my recollection Pranab was out of Delhi when Chiddu made that Decem 9 statement on Telangana. He said to have expresssed his dissatisfaction immediately. May be Gurkhaland is the reason or may be he knows the ground conditions much better than Chiddu. Remember he was head of a committe on Telangana for long and did nothing in the direction of the division.

MMS may be slowly asertaning his position and may be he feels the gang needs his "honest" image now to survide all this corruption allegations

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Jan 2011 08:43

Weeping MPs fall at Pranab feet: Give us Telangana

Congress MPs from Telangana wept and held Pranab Mukherjee’s feet as high emotional drama unfolded at the Finance Minister’s residence on the eve of the all-party meeting on the Srikrishna Committee report.

They begged Mukherjee to create Telangana, telling him that sentiments in favour of a separate state were so strong that they would otherwise be left with no option but to “either quit the party or commit suicide”.

Mukherjee had called the MPs on Wednesday evening for a meeting, which was also attended by Ahmed Patel, political secretary to Congress president Sonia Gandhi, Union Law Minister and party in-charge in Andhra Pradesh M Veerappa Moily, and Defence Minister A K Antony.

Mukherjee told the MPs that he was yet to see the report of the Srikrishna Committee, and would meet them again after he had done so.

The MPs told the Congress leadership that the movement that started in 1969 had gathered great momentum over the past year. Karimnagar MP Ponnam Prabhakar broke down in tears while swearing loyalty to the party, but underscored that the people of Telangana would settle for nothing less than statehood.

His voice choking with emotion, Nizamabad MP Madhu Goud Yaskhi described the people’s yearning for Telangana. He stopped midway, to go out and splash water over his face and eyes, before returning to continue with his case.

At one stage, Warangal MP Rajaiah Sircilla and Secunderabad MP Anjan Kumar Yadav, along with some other MPs, fell at Mukherjee’s feet, entreating him not to throttle the “aspirations of the people”. A greatly embarrassed Mukherjee protested, “Please, don’t... Don’t do it.”

The MPs also told the party leadership that Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS) chief K Chandrasekhar Rao was set to up the ante, and could even go on another fast and get his MLAs to resign to pressurize the Centre.

Mukherjee asked the MPs not to make any plublic statements until the party took a final decision on the issue.

An MP who was present at the hour-long meeting told The Indian Express, “We don’t know what decision they will take but they were certainly moved by the strong sentiments in favour of a separate Telangana state.”

A two-term MP said, “The first time I got elected because of the party, but the second time I could win only because of my support for Telangana.”

The strong emotions came in the wake of a perception among Telangana MPs, MLAs and other leaders that the Congress was not inclined towards a separate Telangana.

“We were never consulted, even as people like Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy and Governor E S L Narasimhan were in touch with the party leadership, giving all kinds of arguments against Telangana. We have tried to reason with the central leadership that backtracking now could cost us dear in this region. I am sure that after today’s meeting, they will understand the sentiments of the people of Telangana,” said another MP.

Earlier in the day, Chief Minister Reddy had said the MPs from Telangana “reflected the sentiments” of the people of that region, adding immediately that the sentiments of leaders from non-Telangana regions for a united Andhra reflected, equally, the sentiments of the people in those regions.

The Indian Express had reported on Wednesday that the Srikrishna Committee has argued in favour of a “united Andhra”. As some MPs referred to this report at today’s meeting, Mukherjee said that they should not go by media reports, as the government was yet to take a final call.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Jan 2011 08:53

You reap what you sow!!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jan 2011 09:36

Poor guys they have been reduced to that by their faith in SG.
Is all this available in Telugu?
I thought leaving INC was suicide for these unelectable worthies.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Jan 2011 09:41

YSJ's Sakshi will ensure that.

Some of these guys can get elected under right party. The problem is that they made too many Uttara-Kumara statements and they are shit scared of T-vadi mob they nurtured to threaten TDP and other samaikyavadis

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 06 Jan 2011 10:14

^^^ Reminds me of NTR's famous dialogue(not sure i got it right), "Teluguvaari aatmagouravam delhi roadlalo taakattu pettaru "

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 06 Jan 2011 11:10

Looks like there are 5 options (from TV5)

1. Leave as is with three regional boards for Telangana

2. Split into two states with pre 1956 borders

3. Union territory with Medak, Rangareddy, Hyderabad and Hyderabad as common capital between andhra and Telangana

4. Telangana and Rayalaseema into one state

5. Leave as is

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 06 Jan 2011 11:27

Dasari wrote:Looks like there are 5 options (from TV5)

1. Leave as is with three regional boards for Telangana

2. Split into two states with pre 1956 borders

3. Union territory with Medak, Rangareddy, Hyderabad and Hyderabad as common capital between andhra and Telangana

4. Telangana and Rayalaseema into one state

5. Leave as is

Even best case for T-vadis got riders

>with pre 1956 borders

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 06 Jan 2011 11:32

ShyamSP wrote: Even best case for T-vadis got riders

>with pre 1956 borders

There are parts of districts like khammam which were modified.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 06 Jan 2011 11:38

ravi_ku wrote:
ShyamSP wrote: Even best case for T-vadis got riders

>with pre 1956 borders
There are parts of districts like khammam which were modified.

Does it only pertain to Bhadrachalam or anything else?

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 06 Jan 2011 11:47

Dasari wrote:
ravi_ku wrote:quote="ShyamSP"
Even best case for T-vadis got riders

>with pre 1956 borders :rotfl:quote
There are parts of districts like khammam which were modified.

Does it only pertain to Bhadrachalam or anything else?

Portions of Khammam and Nalgonda. There is also Raichur in Karnataka. If you go to pre-1956 border, they can pull areas from other states.

When we're going back to old SRC, why not ask for other Telugu areas for Andhra? Telugus didn't negotiate well for borders because by the time there was indication that Hyderabad Telugu area would be merged with Andhra state.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 06 Jan 2011 12:15

Had absolutely no clue one way or the other regarding who to support on the Telengana issue....until today when I read this article...

Students-to-form-national-alliance-for-T-to-rope-in-Arundhati-Roy

Am now clear which side is on the right....!!!

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 06 Jan 2011 12:25

Let me crash your festive affair

Does telangana really give a f about the report?
Didn't telangana already knew that the committee was a strategy to buy time?

Here was a chance the UPA got to justify its decision. To make a case to separate telangana from AP. Instead, it blew it away by presenting several options. Don't you get it? There can never be another committee! The anti-sikh riot investigation was stretched with the help of more than 10 committees. Its a strategy which will no longer work in telangana. There will be no SKC-2.

Any talk on the committee is a waste of time and bandwidth. Here is demand that will actually enable the movement to move forward.

Only a bill will see Telangana materialise: BJP

The bill will obviously be defeated in the house with the combine strength of rayalaseema and andhra pitted against telangana. But this will help telangana move forward instead of lying dormant like it is now.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 06 Jan 2011 12:34

Sri Krishna Committee Report (not a govt site)

http://www.sakshitv.com/images/stories/report.pdf

vina · Post by **vina** » 06 Jan 2011 13:51

Guys. Lets be real here. The pre 1956 Telengana cant come about, because, the old Hyderabad areas with Kannada and Marathi speaking population was given to Karnataka and Maharashtra.

Yes, Hyderabad WILL remain the capital of Telengana. It cannot be otherwise. It is the old capital of that region, was built with the blood and tears of folks from that region and of course the coastal folks and others in the last 60 years .

Now whether it should be a Chandigarh like agreement as a joint capital with the new Andhra, I dont know and dont think it is practical. The New Andhra needs a capital that is close, not in some far away interior /edge.. It will have a "Bangalore" like problem for Karnataka which is at the extreme edge of Karnataka and hence Northern Karnaktaa and places like Raichur, Balki etc feel estranged.

Let go of Hyderabad, refocus the coastal Andhra money into building a new capital somewhere slightly away from the coast.. I think Vijaywada would be the absolute best place for that I think and grow that into a great nice city.

And oh, let Rayalseema go. Those guys anyway are lot closer and historically had deeper connections with Bangalore and Madras (Cudappah, Kurnool, Anantapur, Chitoor) (family, investments, lines of communications etc) and let those guys build their own develop one of those places as capital at one of those places or maybe even Tirupati!

Lets get rational about it. Those three regions were historically separate and had natural physical boundaries between them. It is not as if the heavens will fall if that happens. Someone from coastal will still get married to folks from Rayalseema or Telengana, you will still visit your relatives and folks, you can continue to live where you are , invest where you want (as long as you invest your share in Bangalore and Chennai , of course

), come and go as you please, choose to live wherever you want, come and go to Tirupati as you place, in short, life as normal. What give if some politco and babu monkeys keep jumping up and down. You don't give a rat's a** about them anyways. Yawn.. Give me a cup of coffee.. Same-Same. No change, so boring, business as usual!

Foggedabout that . Remember, Hyderabad was NOT the capital of the Andhra state that got formed due to Potti Sriramulu's actions. It was Kurnool! . Hyd became the capital only later after Telengana was merged.

This Hyderabad business sounds so much like the Potti Sriramulu's rhetoric ..Per wiki

"He described Andhra without Madras as a dead body without a head.

. It sounds so ridiculous now. Andhra well and fine without Madras and all the Telugu folks in the then Madras and now Chennai are absolutely fine as well. So relax and chill.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 06 Jan 2011 14:39

vina wrote:Guys. Lets be real here. The pre 1956 Telengana cant come about, because, the old Hyderabad areas with Kannada and Marathi speaking population was given to Karnataka and Maharashtra.

What are you saying? - Telangana cannot be formed or Are you batting that Khammam (bhadrachalam) and Naglonda should be fully part of Telangana ( post 1956 scenario)

vina wrote: Yes, Hyderabad WILL remain the capital of Telengana. It cannot be otherwise. It is the old capital of that region, was built with the blood and tears of folks from that region and of course the coastal folks and others in the last 60 years .

Now whether it should be a Chandigarh like agreement as a joint capital with the new Andhra, I dont know and dont think it is practical. The New Andhra needs a capital that is close, not in some far away interior /edge.. It will have a "Bangalore" like problem for Karnataka which is at the extreme edge of Karnataka and hence Northern Karnaktaa and places like Raichur, Balki etc feel estranged.

Let go of Hyderabad, refocus the coastal Andhra money into building a new capital somewhere slightly away from the coast.. I think Vijaywada would be the absolute best place for that I think and grow that into a great nice city.

Why go off from coast? Are you afraid of tsunami but not floods?. Do you know the map of Andhra without Rayalaseema? Vijayawada will also be far away from Vizianagaram and Srikakulam. BTW, Vizag will also be very nice capital, a bustling city of middle class, working people with no caste baggage of Vijayawada. Besides it is the largest city in economy, land size and population. This kind of politics only created the resentment of telanganites against andhrites.

And oh, let Rayalseema go. Those guys anyway are lot closer and historically had deeper connections with Bangalore and Madras (Cudappah, Kurnool, Anantapur, Chitoor) (family, investments, lines of communications etc) and let those guys build their own develop one of those places as capital at one of those places or maybe even Tirupati!
...
Lets get rational about it. .... So relax and chill.

I don't know what is so rational about it. Rayalaseema cannot exist on its own. Its resources are so poor that they even consider living with Telangana or merge some parts with Karnataka.

At the end the only viable option seems to be option 6 - decentralization of power with regional boards, except let them provide those regional boards for all under developed regions (skc report page 457 , end of 1st para already supports such possibility).

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 06 Jan 2011 15:12

vina wrote:Guys. Lets be real here. The pre 1956 Telengana cant come about, because, the old Hyderabad areas with Kannada and Marathi speaking population was given to Karnataka and Maharashtra.

Yes, Hyderabad WILL remain the capital of Telengana. It cannot be otherwise. It is the old capital of that region, was built with the blood and tears of folks from that region and of course the coastal folks and others in the last 60 years .

Shouldn't the aspirations of Hyderabad folks not taken into account; Let the vote decide whether they want to be a UT/Joint Capital/Merge with Telangana

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 06 Jan 2011 15:15

I think a new SRC needs to be formed to look into formation of new states for every state in the Union including Tamil Nadu and Karnataka ;

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 06 Jan 2011 16:00

If a SRC is needed then new states must be formed with administrative ease as the sole basis
Maybe aroud 40 states with average size of Orissa and 6 city-states viz Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, Ahmedabad, Bangalore to cater to the aspirations of the urban populace

vina · Post by **vina** » 06 Jan 2011 16:05

Dasari wrote:What are you saying? - Telangana cannot be formed or Are you batting that Khammam (bhadrachalam) and Naglonda should be fully part of Telangana ( post 1956 scenario)

Nothing. Other than that the "old" Telengana/ Hyderabad state cannot be formed because of the adjustments with Maharashtra and Karnataka. Hmm Khammam and Nalgonda. I remember one acquaintance of mine, who grew up in Singareni (he is a Tam Brahm though) and he came up the hard way,born there, worked there actually working in the collieries as a Diploma holder, AICTE etc and later worked his way up in corporate life here , so a very "native" guy from that parts and he always said that his Telugu is different and it is the "Telangana Telugu" .. so I guess the folks there feel more "Telenganaish" . But really, does it matter if the babu is in Hyd or Vijaywada or both ? They are midway between the two places and if both develop equally well, all the better for them!

vina wrote:Why go off from coast? Are you afraid of tsunami but not floods?. Do you know the map of Andhra without Rayalaseema? Vijayawada will also be far away from Vizianagaram and Srikakulam. BTW, Vizag will also be very nice capital, a bustling city of middle class, working people with no caste baggage of Vijayawada. Besides it is the largest city in economy, land size and population. This kind of politics only created the resentment of telanganites against andhrites.

Precisely why. You want to keep Vizag the nice good city it is. Why do you want to collect a whole bunch of politcos, thugs, fixers, movers, shakers,media scoundrels, hatchetmen, scum bag lawyers and all the other kind of undesirable scum and human detritus that gets inevitably accumulated if it were a capital. Keep Vizag good and clean as it is!

You are smarter dumping such types on to the casteist Vijaywada where they will take like ducks to water!

At the end the only viable option seems to be option 6 - decentralization of power with regional boards, except let them provide those regional boards for all under developed regions (skc report page 457 , end of 1st para already supports such possibility).

Sure. But somehow I dont think that will work right now. Plus why pass up the chance to decentralize away from Hyd and build some 2 more decently attractive cities (absolute reasons why I think Vijaywada and probably Cadappah should become capitals) leaving out more decent places like Vizag alone.

KSKumar · Post by **KSKumar** » 06 Jan 2011 16:40

I don't think there is any way out of a second SRC.

The Indian Bank scamster has had his comeuppance.

He wanted to set fire to the neighbours house. Now his own will be consumed in the resultant flames.

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 06 Jan 2011 16:45

vina wrote:
Dasari wrote:What are you saying? - Telangana cannot be formed or Are you batting that Khammam (bhadrachalam) and Naglonda should be fully part of Telangana ( post 1956 scenario)
Nothing. Other than that the "old" Telengana/ Hyderabad state cannot be formed because of the adjustments with Maharashtra and Karnataka. Hmm Khammam and Nalgonda. I remember one acquaintance of mine, who grew up in Singareni (he is a Tam Brahm though) and he came up the hard way,born there, worked there actually working in the collieries as a Diploma holder, AICTE etc and later worked his way up in corporate life here , so a very "native" guy from that parts and he always said that his Telugu is different and it is the "Telangana Telugu" .. so I guess the folks there feel more "Telenganaish" . But really, does it matter if the babu is in Hyd or Vijaywada or both ? They are midway between the two places and if both develop equally well, all the better for them!

This is the danger with people with little knowledge of the state attempting to speak for or against its bifurcation. Khammam may belong to Telangana side of things but all of Khammam does not. Specifically the Bhadrachalam sub-division belonged to East Godavari before it was moved over to Khammam for administrative ease. If Bhadrachalam goes to Andhra the Godavari waters right from Pranahita sangam point will be in dispute as they form the boundary. The point to note here is the proposed bifurcation will open a pandora's box on what the timeline in the past must be to revert the political boundaries to.

vina · Post by **vina** » 06 Jan 2011 16:46

The Indian Bank scamster has had his comeuppance

. Yeah.. Just love that. That is one big skeleton rattling in his cupboard and he just hopes that no one remembers anything about it.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Jan 2011 17:47

Last year on a visit to H'bad,I was surprised to hear from a veteran ruling party politico the legitimacy of the demand for Telengana.He gave me facts and fgures as to why it should so be created.It wa san eye-opener.He also dismissed the idea of HB being a joint capital like Chandigarh or UT.If thta is the feeling within senior members of the Congress ,than the result-Telengana one day is inevitable.

vina · Post by **vina** » 06 Jan 2011 18:02

Philip wrote:Last year on a visit to H'bad,I was surprised to hear from a veteran ruling party politico the legitimacy of the demand for Telengana.He gave me facts and fgures as to why it should so be created.It wa san eye-opener.

Philip, the funny part is that if you met an "equally senior" ruling party veteran from the other side, he will you "equally" perfect and legitimate reasons along with facts and figures on the illegitimacy of the Telengana demand!

. Such is life and the nature of the beast.

He also dismissed the idea of HB being a joint capital like Chandigarh or UT.If thta is the feeling within senior members of the Congress ,than the result-Telengana one day is inevitable.

I agree that one day it is inevitable , but for a different reason. The reason is this. Both the Congress and TDP used the "Telengana" card in the hopes that they would ride the Telengana tiger to power. The Congress actually did and TDP tried , but failed. Of course, it is like asking the chicken and egg story. Did the Telengana demand come first and these politicians used it or did the politicians create the demand that snowballed later.

Problem is the Telengana tiger cannot be dismounted once you mount it. The Congress has no choice to go ahead and do it. TDP can oppose it now because it is in the opposition.

I do think that there probably was resistance to Telengana joining Andhra even back then, and it probably was a latent sentiment /dying down ,but was fully fanned back into a roaring inferno by both Congress and the TDP. There are no saints in this.

Both after all , campaigned on this! If the coastal guys and rest of andhra were against that, they should have voted vehemently against the guys campaigning on that plank when it was first used.

Oh no. They didn't , but actually sent Chandra Babu Naidu packing and if anyone remembers why Vajpayee could not come back for the second term, it was solely and solely because Naidu was wiped out in Andhra!

The one thing I would not do is blame the "Indian Bank Scamster" and fanciful notions of setting the neighbor's house afire. He didn't campaign on that plank. Naidu and YSR did. Blame on the voters who voted for the guys who campaigned on that plank!

Sarma · Post by **Sarma** » 06 Jan 2011 18:26

Philip and Vina: The Sri Krishna Committee report has precisely debunked all reasons being put forward for a T-state. I am surprised to see you miss this aspect. Why should you listen to any veteran politico, when you have the report now.

I am sorry to see you both think that T-state is inevitable when the committee report has come out with exactly the opposite conclusion. Vina, I understand you are somewhat of an economy expert on this forum, but on this one, you are way off. The committee has plumped in favor of a united AP precisely for the economic well being of all three regions of AP. So, I will believe them instead of your ad hoc and unsubstantiated arguments.

And, to all those who think T-state will form, remember it will not end with T. So, chill.

Finally, an important point getting lost in the din of "6 options" is that the committee has resoundingly disproved all allegations of economic subjugation and exploitation of T region by the rest of AP. I am surprised that none of the self-proclaimed experts above have noticed and continue with their groupthink.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 06 Jan 2011 19:14

Separate Telangana could see more Maoist activity: Srikrishna http://www.sify.com/news/Separate-Telan ... gcebb.html