The Cricket World Cup Thread

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Jan 2011 08:13

SMH prints the ultimate insult - Aus team photo with the revered baggy greens replaced with pink girlie caps

the caption reads "worst australian team ever"
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/01/06/212 ... -620x0.jpg

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 07 Jan 2011 08:31

TFTA goras can also whine like the SDREs.

when the chips are down.

Axe must fall: no room for Clarke, Hilfenhaus and Johnson

Once the final day of this one-sided Ashes campaign is wrapped up by England, presumably this morning, seven long months await before an Australian Test line-up next takes the field. Much soul- searching lies ahead for a set-up thoroughly humiliated and in drastic need of an urgent re-think.

Howls that? Pup unleashes the raw cry of defeat

DESPAIR has descended upon Australian cricket. Embarrassment has become an acquaintance. Humiliation has introduced itself. Calamity has piled upon calamity. For the first time in its august history Australia could suffer three innings defeats in a series. And their opponents? England! Remember them? The pushovers!

Can't bat, can't bowl, can't field and can't even think straight
Revolutions have broken out, palaces stormed and coups de grace mounted for less than this. Early this morning, Australia will lose by an innings for the third time this summer, which is unprecedented in a mostly proud cricketing history.

An embarrassment of historic proportions
THE worst Australian team ever fielded for an Ashes series will today watch England celebrate a 3-1 victory at the SCG in the knowledge they are the first side wearing baggy greens to have lost three Tests by more than an innings in a single series.

Clear the decks: Harvey wants Test cleanout

Forget the mid 1980s, Australian cricket faces its biggest rebuilding period since World Series Cricket, said the man whose job it was to repair the side after Kerry Packer's raid.

England completes stunning Ashes victory

12:44pm Australia were dismissed for 281 this morning as England celebrated an historic 3-1 series win, and for the first time in history Australia lost three matches in a series by more than an innings.

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 07 Jan 2011 11:09

CRamS wrote:
SaiK wrote:
Whatever happened to all the beef that Morkel, Steyn, Tsteshobe ate? How come on such a fiery wicket, the beef eaters didn't make mince meat out of the dal, roti, thair sadam/lemon eating SDREs.

Guys, say what you want, but I watched the first 10 overs or so and then later on. The manner in which Gambhir and Sehwah handled the fiery pace, bounce, and swing of Morkel and Steyn under intemse pressure was commendable. They showed a lot of spunk. I am getting the faint feeling that Dhoni is turning out to be another larger than life, arrognat dada.

Objective analysis?
Not really because

It was Dravid and GG that handled Steyn and Morkel when they were going hammer and tongs at the Indian batters, give credit where it is due and Dravid deserves praise for the way he played yesterday, if you really watched the match yesterday you wouldnt have failed to notice that Sehwag actually scratched around without looking threatening and at the same time giving the impression that he would get out the next ball. Sehwag played a nothing innings yesterday and doesn't deserve any praise for it, certainly not at the expense of Dravid.
In fact while GG enhanced is reputation, Sehwag didn't do himself any favours by failing to match his test average

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 07 Jan 2011 11:19

Bade wrote:But this is their youngistan team no...without their fab4.

No because their fab 4 had 2 fab bowlers

Mike Hussey has more or less replaced one of their Fab batters and Brad Haddin although not in the same class as Gilchrist does a pretty good job in the lower order. Watson and Katich are about 70% as good as Langer and Hayden.
The Aussies sorely miss Warne and McGrath and none of their current bowlers are half as good as Gillespie. India on the other hand never really had 2 great bowlers playing at the same time.

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 07 Jan 2011 11:24

IShant needs a haircut more than anything else. he looked ridiculous with their present hairstyle, steaming in to deliver gift wrapped nothing balls on helpful pitches.

Sreesanth's aggression is fake, he is hyperthyroid and reminds me of the overactive child at school who wanted a morsel from everybody's tiffin box

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 07 Jan 2011 11:27

Universal pitches

Might as well bring in Jean Claude Van Damme's happy bunch of Universal Soldiers to play on them

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 14:16

even GG was very scratchy, got 3 lives IIRC.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 07 Jan 2011 15:20

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 07 Jan 2011 15:39

without those sharp eyes, gawd can't cater.

--
ven damn players can super seed gawd no!?

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 07 Jan 2011 16:50

We have drawn a series in SA but we lose a point , however SA gains one point eventhough they played at home. Strange are the ways of ICC.
The POMs are dreaming of becoming No.1. Let them win a series against TI in India first

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 16:53

^^^ it's similar to ELO ratings, the top ranked lose points in a draw with a lower ranked one.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 07 Jan 2011 18:11

Rahul M wrote:^^^ it's similar to ELO ratings, the top ranked lose points in a draw with a lower ranked one.

No, FIDE ratings are way different than ICC rankings.

You have mangus (the emperor

) who plays often against chota bhais, yet he crosses n stays at 2810+ while he does nt suffer much of a rating point losses with loss to Anand, K-man etc. FIDE works on grade inflation principle, rating point losses to bade bhais can be compensated by playing against n chota bhais and retaining the same position as before. Mangus plays the largest number of games every cycle, which has become three months now.

ICC rankings otoh penalize you with the most recent year getting the worst penalty and a window of three years used with a 1:1:2 weight. ICC ratings are more like iterated weighted average, while FIDE ratings are more like cumulated weighted average. It is easier to compensate for bad results by playing more in a cumulated setting, but not so in an iterated setting. FIDE Liveratings are there, but the official ratings are cumulated, and even then Liveratings work only by using the cumulation effect, not iterative effect. The galling aspect for ICC ratings is not the iterative part: it treats home series as the same as away series. The 1-1 draw at home compensates the 1-1 draw away. But that is just us. SL sits where it sits on top of home wins. They went to Oz, but only for ODIs, the WI series was washed out, so was a part of the series with us. Sure, we did nt travel much either last year. At least, we had SA, Oz, SL and NZ visit us. And we will compensate by traveling WI, Eng and Oz this year. Where are the SL heading this year? England and then what?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 18:18

thanks stan. yes the home and away part needs to be incorporated but I wonder if it is possible to do it without yet another ad-hoc weight. I'm sure the boffins ICC consulted must have thought about it.
it's not easy IMO.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Jan 2011 18:20

GG should be given his due - he has discipline and patience to build long innings and stick it out.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 18:26

undoubtedly. IMO his elbow injury in first innings made him lose a tad bit of control which created errors.
it's not easy to produce those precise bat movements when your elbow is throbbing like anything.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 07 Jan 2011 18:39

Rahul M wrote: boffins ICC consulted must have thought

never seen you contradict so much in one phrase.

The ICC consulted one person, David Kendix, an actuary. Hardly a scientist. Here is a guy who tells you about insurance and he becomes a statistician and designs the table for the pre-eminent championship?! If all actuaries became statisticians, what is the use for statistical training then? There is something called a trial or an experiment and two hypotheses to decide against, and a confidence interval associated with a decision you make. You can spin a weave around that and my math friends will run around with "where is the effing sigma alzebra, you sdre aanjaneyar?", but you see the point is made.

All this was done in the 2003+ phase, surely Kolmogorov is spinning in his grave like the dead remains of the Soyuz modules and beyond. Surely the ICC are not broke enough to pay N people, or throw a Netflix like competishun? I can take a stab if they paid the winner the summer salary eh. At least FIDE can claim that when the Arpad Elo-instituted scheme came about, it was the 60s and it stood the test of time till the people who beat the system by gaming it took over. The boffins must have thought, that is called philanthropy. You are attributing decency to strangers, which I must admit is brave, definitely not with exhibits in this august podium milord

.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 19:29

ok, I didn't know the details

hmm, we should try devising a system ourselves, what do you think ?

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 07 Jan 2011 21:08

^^wasn't there a scheme followed in rediff cricket columns (maybe still is) on differentiated weights for home and away. They would give both the ICC and their own ranking based on their scheme.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 07 Jan 2011 21:38

does Tendulkar needs a new bat? His bat is all padded and has seen better days.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 21:44

he uses them till they can't be used anymore. repairs them as well as he can and doesn't use more than 2 match bats in a year. but he gets enough free bats that he donates them to local clubs in mumbai, keeping a handful for himself.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jan 2011 22:01

some ashes humour doing the rounds...

"Hello - Australian team dressing room."
"Hello mate...Can I speak to Ricky Ponting please."
"Sorry mate - he's just gone out to bat."
"It's OK - I'll hold."

*****

A man goes into a brothel... "I want to be totally humiliated .. how much?"
"$60 dollars"
"...ok what do you get for that ..?"
"a baggy green cap and an Aussie shirt"

****

Q. What does Ryan Harris put in his hands to make sure the next ball almost always takes a wicket?
A. A bat.

*****

Q. What is the height of optimism?
A. An Australian batsman putting on sunscreen

*****

Q. What do you call an Aussie cricketer holding a bottle of bubbly?
A. A waiter

*****

Q. What do Aussie batsmen and drug addicts have in common?
A. Both spend most of their time wondering where their next score will come from.

*****

What do you call an Aussie with a 100 to his name - a bowler.

*****

So, the Australian bobsleigh team have asked the Aussie cricket team for a meeting

They want to ask their advice about going downhill so fast......

*****

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 07 Jan 2011 23:05

Lalmohan wrote:some ashes humour doing the rounds...

"Hello - Australian team dressing room."
"Hello mate...Can I speak to Ricky Ponting please."
"Sorry mate - he's just gone out to bat."
"It's OK - I'll hold."

I remember hearing this one a long time ago. The joke was on TI then, with Dada being the target.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Jan 2011 23:45

this one has its origins in our infamous 42 AO against england, back in the 70's.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jan 2011 23:47

yes they are all recirculations

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 08 Jan 2011 00:12

HT..has this DDM idiot writing this..

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-pro ... 47602.aspx

Now a question, which needs to be raised if we have to earn greater respect worldwide is why did the Indian Board not agree to the UDRS? In the Durban Test, the three LBW decisions that went against South Africa were so horrendous that even the naked eye could detect them.

Imagine, if India were at the receiving end and had lost, what kind of a reaction there would have been in the media? Just remember the Sydney Test, where umpiring errors had outraged us so much that we even threatened to withdraw from the tour. The reaction of the South African media, especially of their commentators on television, was very balanced and instead of harping on it, they put it in a cricketing perspective and carried on with the game, as it should be.

really? honest mistakes == steve bucknor's 12th man act?

and i am not even going into the heresy of

The series also left me wondering why is Kallis not being talked about in the same breath as Tendulkar?

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 08 Jan 2011 01:08

Rahul M wrote:this one has its origins in our infamous 42 AO against england, back in the 70's.

Sun bayaalis, ('42 AD), Bharat Chodo
Run bayaalis, (42 runs) Cricket Chodo!

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Jan 2011 02:43

http://www.indianexpress.com/comments/u ... ../734109/

it is kickin up a controversy in the minds of people. read the comments here in IE.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 08 Jan 2011 03:11

some more assie humor..

What is the difference between Cinderella and the Aussies? Cinderella knew when to leave the ball.

What do you call an Australian who can hold a catch? A fisherman

I've just asked Shane Watson if I could borrow a cup of sugar, but he's run out

What do you call an Australian who's good with a bat? A vet.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 08 Jan 2011 07:40

Dileep · Post by **Dileep** » 08 Jan 2011 08:04

Rahul M wrote:he uses them till they can't be used anymore. repairs them as well as he can and doesn't use more than 2 match bats in a year. but he gets enough free bats that he donates them to local clubs in mumbai, keeping a handful for himself.

Here is the story of that bat Meet the man who gave Sachin his bat

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Jan 2011 08:41

what a man!

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 08 Jan 2011 11:28

Marten wrote:
Mahela Jayawardane for 1.5mn USD to Kochi... (why???)

It is all the fault of SRT and Baba Ramdev I'm sure

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Jan 2011 12:13

Former India captain Rahul Dravid was purchased by Rajasthan Royals for $500,000

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 08 Jan 2011 12:48

no bids for Chris Gayle! Amazing.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 08 Jan 2011 12:59

^^^

+ 1000 to that.

Also amazing. No TSP players in the IPL. Perhaps they will star in PPL.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Jan 2011 13:02

India's batting mainstay Gautam Gambhir [ Images ] became the highest-paid player in the history of the Indian Premier League [ Images ] when he was purchased by Kolkata Knight Riders [ Images ] for a whopping $2.4m.

tchandr · Post by **tchandr** » 08 Jan 2011 13:18

Mumbai gets Maaki err Symonds. First team meeting should be interesting. (Bhajji was retained by MI).
Symonds is still sore that CA did not back him enough during the maaki episode.

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 08 Jan 2011 18:18

BCCI might be missing a trick here, if there are many disgruntled players the possibility of a rival league is very real.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Jan 2011 20:36

http://www.espncricinfo.com/page2/conte ... 95915.html

want to read "facts" about pranthan.!? what the real f@#k toad said.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Jan 2011 21:40

allegedly he said smithy wasnt man enough to take care of his ex-gf minki van der westhuizen and that he wasnt even popular in his own team, so he was too arrogant for his own good. my sources are various scurrilous rags like toi who publish fact n fiction so take it with load of salt.