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The Forensic Science Laboratories of Agra and Ahmedabad have detected the use of RDX and some other substances, including nitrate, in December 7 blast at Sheetla Ghat in Varanasi. An infant girl and a woman were killed in the blast.
Officials from the Uttar Pradesh Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) said the FSL report has not provided any clue that could help the investigation. They don't even know how the blast was triggered.
The news headline contains a " ? " , the first sentence announces that FSL detected "RDX and some other substances" and finally the UP ATS says that "the report has not provided any clue that could help the investigation. "
Its clear from the FSl report its a RDX and Ammonium nitrate bomb. It had no metal parts to aviod detection. The question is RDX initiator needs a fusing mechanism: shock, fire etc. So how was it set off? Could they have used a lighted fuse to set off the detonator in plastic case to provide the shock?
Impact force could provide a necessary fusion mechanism if the device was suitably concealed near stone steps, something like a roadside digger's pick-axe could do the trick. However, even if a cylinder of dynamite is placed vertically against a brick and mortar wall, its explosive power is muted.
Perhaps, muted should be the word used instead of 'low intensity'?
Klaus wrote:Impact force could provide a necessary fusion mechanism if the device was suitably concealed near stone steps, something like a roadside digger's pick-axe could do the trick. However, even if a cylinder of dynamite is placed vertically against a brick and mortar wall, its explosive power is muted.
Perhaps, muted should be the word used instead of 'low intensity'?
High explosive are not initiated by manual impact by a pick-axe, it would kill the person doing it! (Assuming that it would explode in the first place which is very unlikely) Also the classification of blasts as "low intensity" or "high intensity" are technically correct terms used in blasting jargons.
Some more rigorous controls are needed for PCOs in interests of internal security. also need a way for cell phone SIM card sellers to authenticate the info given by the buyers.
ramana wrote:when all trails are cold its mark of an Intel agency.
Going by politicsparty theory of PMO sanctioned counterintelligence vigilantes, could this be Indian intelligence origin? Motive being triggering political storm about lack of security and consolidation of Muslim votes?
Sanku wrote:They havent found any Hindu's yet to pin this on.
Have patience . They will do it. They are fixing "responsibility" for samjhauta now. This will take time. One clue is just scout around which Swamiji or sanyasin has been vocal about EJs and Islamic fundamentalism. Anyone who does social work and takes his/her ashram/matt to the poor, tribals , the BCs etc. They will be targetted. Just wait. There are still so many elections to fight and this will be a handy weapon.
A technique is to claim someone else did what you are doing. Politics party guy is a stoolie of INC first family. It could be he is creating a strawman to hide what INC is doing. So I don't trust his data anymore.
We know after every Ind Muj attack, Indian Muslim votebanks in rural areas consolidate with INC.
- Delhi 2008
- All India 2009
VARANASI: The forensic laboratories have confirmed the use of RDX in the December 7 blast on Old Dasaswamedh Ghat. However, unlike previous blasts, the terrorists have not mixed ammonium nitrate in the bomb.
According to sources, reports from forensic laboratories, including Forensic Science Institute of Gujarat, were received recently. They revealed the use of RDX in the bomb that was packed in a plastic lunch box. However, the other chemicals used with the RDX could not be confirmed. In the previous blasts, the terrorists had mixed ammonium nitrate with the RDX. But, in this bomb, ammonium nitrate had not been used, say reports.
It is worth mentioning here that during the initial test of debris collected from explosion site, use of multiple chemicals in preparing this bomb had come to light. The experts had also suspected the possibility of the use of plastic explosive.
Regarding the mechanism used for exploding the bomb, it was stated that the bomb was exploded with timer. Sources said there was a possibility that parts of the timer device could have fallen in the Ganga and so was not found at the blast site. Sources arrived at this conclusion as the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) of Karnataka, which had also visited this site after explosion, revealed that after the recent bomb explosion at Chinnaswamy stadium in Bangalore on April 17, 2010, no part of the device had been recovered. But, when the unexploded bombs were checked, the device was found in them.
These reports may have helped solve the mystery of the bomb, but the terror modules involved are still at large. IG (range) RP Singh has also issued directives to go through the files of all old terrorist attack cases to know their sleeper modules.
Could the timer have been made of materials that disintegrate during the explosion?
So above report says;
- Blast used RDX only. No other chemicals. Did not use ammonium nitrate. May be due to bulk. Wanted a compact device. Hence RDX in plastic lunch box to avoid metal detectors.
- New type of timer that doesn't leave debris.
Wonder if ATS Karnataka knowledge was shared with other ATS and Center as such a new type that escapes detection would be very dangerous in other situations.
A close monitoring of the Bhatkal family's telephones would be a good indication no? It has been more than a week since the news came out yet it has hardly found any mention in the English Media
ramana wrote:Any updates on this blast or is total out of sight and mind? At a minimum did the forensic labs turn in their reports atleast?
Could the timer have been made of materials that disintegrate during the explosion?
So above report says;
- Blast used RDX only. No other chemicals. Did not use ammonium nitrate. May be due to bulk. Wanted a compact device. Hence RDX in plastic lunch box to avoid metal detectors.
- New type of timer that doesn't leave debris.
Wonder if ATS Karnataka knowledge was shared with other ATS and Center as such a new type that escapes detection would be very dangerous in other situations.
Doesn't the timer always disintegrate during the explosion? But a thorough combing of every square inch always yields pieces that put together should give clues. If it did fall into Ganga, then why not use underwater divers ? The trouble is our cops always do a lousy job of keeping the rubbernecks away, and since the experts usually travel from Delhi, crucial hours are lost between the explosion and combing.
They might have placed it inside a plastic box to avoid metal detectors, but shouldn't such a sensitive area have ample chemical detectors that every half-decent buildings/airports have these days?
Sadly we saw how good a job local ATS' do when unexploded bombs were found days after explosions in a Bangalore stadium. Btw, whatever happened to the tens of truck loads of Ammonium Nitrate went missing in transit from RJ? I am sure there are ample conduits between Naxals and jihadis in UP.
Traditional timers have metal parts which leave debris. The new thing in this blast same as the Karnataka stadium blast as pointed out by the ATS Karnataka is the timer is not recovered from the debris. So falling into Ganga etc is moot.
Wait till some election comes by in UP or any other parts. Then we will know how it is the plot of evil Arr Yess Yess only and Yindutva brigades.
Dont keep your hopes on electoral retribution. Spoke to a couple of banarasi panda's, IITians and a BHU prof. Their mindset was as paki in seeing RSS as evil as Hamid Zaid himself. Lot of abject dhimmitude was on display.
onlee unofficial updated, take it with a healthy amount of Salt
there are murmurs going about that this "Arti" was getting too much publicity and traction particularly among the faaren loge so to show them
SDREs their place this blast was organised by you know who and she who cannot be named
methinks time to archive / trash this thread.
ramana wrote:No updates on the case? Its close to eight months.
Ramana - I have noticed that in earlier attacks - such as the Bangalore IISc attack and others everything goes quiet - but often the culprits are caught or killed after a gap of several years. The culprits will be in hiding right now and constant updates that say "we are looking" "or we have clues" will alert criminals to keep their heads low. On the other hand a statement that everything has gone cold will attract criticism from the public saying 'they are not bothered and are incompetent".
For god's sake pls rename this thread and the other one abt mumbai and put dates / month on it. My heart skipped a beat when I saw the thread right at the top...before I realised it is a old one..
yasin Bhatkal masterminded the 2010 Varanasi Bomb blast
Mohammad Ahmed Siddibapa alias Yasin Bhatkal was the chief architect of the 2010 bombing of Sheetla Ghat in Varanasi, he has reportedly told his interrogators.
He was helped by fellow Indian Mujahideen operatives Asadulla Akhtar alias Haddi, Mohammad Tehseen Akhtar alias Monu, and Wakas alias Ahmed, a sources in the UP Anti-Terrorism Squad said.
The bomb was planted by Asadulla and Wakas. Yasin and Tehseen were also in Varanasi when the bomb went off on the evening of December 7, 2010 and killed two persons, the source said. The bomb, sources said, was assembled at a house in Darbhanga, Bihar, and transported by bus to Patna, and then to Varanasi. They planned to place the bomb where Ganga Aarti is performed to cause maximum damage, Yasin reportedly told his interrogators, but due to some confusion it was left on the stone staircase.
Yasin and Asadulla were arrested on August 28, and the NIA has announced rewards of Rs 10 lakh each on Tehseen, and Wakas, who is suspected to be a Pakistani.
The NIA has intensified its hunt for Tehseen after Yasin reportedly told them he could be hiding in Lucknow or Kanpur.
NIA to hold Yasin till Sept 21
NEW DELHI: A Delhi court Tuesday extended Yasin Bhatkal's NIA custody till September 21 after the agency contended that it needs more time to interrogate him as he had been involved in "subversive activities of causing blasts in different parts of India" since 2003. On the other hand, the NIA wanted Yasin's associate Asadulla Akhtar, who was arrested with him, to be remanded in judicial custody. But NIA's
Hyderabad unit sought permission to arrest him in connection with the February 21, 2013 blasts in Hyderabad's Dilsukhnagar. The court granted the plea and sent Asadulla in two days transit remand of the unit. PTI
New Delhi: Zia-ur-Rehman alias Waqas claims to have been motivated very early and wanted to participate in jehadi activities. In 2009, he met LeT recruiter Taj Mohammed. Then 21 year old Waqas told him that he wanted to get trained and fight for jehad in Kashmir.
But Taj wasn't interested. He told him to come back later. This happened number of times. Finally he was convinced that Waqas was interested in Jehad. He was sent for training along with 20-25 other youngsters.
Training took place in Naushera. Each group was divided in 7-8. All of then were in their late teens or early twenties. Their trainers were Abu Bakr, Abdullah and Azhar.
Over all supervisor was one Abu Manzur. It was 21 day training called daur-e-aam, which started at 5.30 am and went for 12 hours.
They woke up at 5 am after prayers, there was a physical exercise which went for 2 hours. Breakfast was at 8 am. Then 2 hours of religious studies. From 10 am, they were taught how to handle different weapons like G-2 AK-47, .32 n 30 bore revolver. This was for four hours. From 2 pm till 5 pm, they practised firing at a shooting range.
After completing the course, he wasn't too excited and decided to train further. That's when he met JeM operative Abdur Rehman who directed him to go to Wazirstan in FATA region. Waqas was taken to a place identified as Marghaz-e-Aqsa (a big complex) and was trained along with 20-25 men.
Nasir bhai was camp-in-charge. Ahmed and Talha were trainers. It was a 20 day training module called Zuhaib . First he was told to handle an LMG and AK-47.
Because of rigorous nature of the course, some left the camp. Next part was training was handling of explosives. He specialized in three kinds of explosives - hydrogen peroxide, potassium chlorate and ammonia nitrate.
After ten days of training he was finally told how to assemble electronic circuit. He learned to handle six types of electronic circuit.
It was a stressful training. After this he was taken for excursion and was made to workout on the nearby hills to building stamina.
After completion of training, he met Abdur Rehman again. He told Waqas to go to Karachi and stay in a hotel. There another handler met him and took him to a man who introduced himself as Javed. Later he realized that Javed was actually IM founder Riaz Bhatkal.
There were quite a few meetings between them. Then one fine day on the 1st week of September 2010, Riaz gave him a passport and asked him to board a flight from Karachi to Kathmandu. Riaz told him that some one called Tehseen/Monu (now chief of Indian Mujahideen) will meet him.
In the same flight Assadullah Akhtar was also there. Both were travelling incognito, he was traveling as Waqas and Akhtar as Daniel. That's when the name Waqas stuck to him.
From Nepal, he crossed Indo-Nepal border. Monu then took them to Darbhanga, where began his innings with Yasin Bhatkal.
Varansi (Sheetla Ghat) blasts December 7, 2010
In this blast they used hydrogen peroxide. Yasin Bhatkal, Monu, Assadullah and Waqas participated in the attacked. Assadullah purchased hydrogen peroxide in Kolkata. Waqas prepared two IEDs. While putting detonator in the IED, there was a blast. He got serious injuries on his hand and 2 of his fingers got badly hurt.
{Recall that poor woman got killed and there was no trace of what explosive was used in this case? Will xpost in the Varnasi blasts thread for closure. Also want to see if there were nay reports of anyone with injuries to hand in that thread.}
Mumbai Serial blasts - July, 13 2011
Planning of this attack started way back in March. Yasin got a flat at Habib apartments near Iran hotel, Byculla. For two months they stayed there and mixed with locals. To pass time, he would learn mobile repairing. But the real reason was he wanted to learn how to trigger a blast with mobile phone. They even prepared fake IDs.
It was in June Yasin told Waqas to carry out the attack. He was told to make the circuit. Assadullah got explosives from Manglore this time. They got about one lakh for logistics and financing from hawala channels.
He then reecced the potential targets. The plan was to carry out maximum casualty. He went to Dadar foot over bridge and Sidhi Vinayak temple (dropped the idea because of security at the temple). Finally after a lot planning they decided the targets. This time he used a different explosive to trigger blast.
Assadullah got gellatine stick and explosives. Two black colour activa was stolen from chor bazaar and opera house. On the day of attack, activa was taken to spot. Yasin told him to trigger the blast at 6.30 pm. Little after 6.40 pm blasts happened.
So they used hydrogen peroxide and hence the ATS was unable to diagnose it due to their concentrating on fertilizer bombs.
