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Pratyush wrote:
Ashoka wrote:Bomb at Bannu Kills 18!

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/12/bomb-at- ... veral.html

AoA. What a glorious start to 2011, more in the offing.
Going by the illustrious standards of Mesud. This is an underwhelming performance. The demonstration of the IEDlogy of Pakistan was not as strong as we have grown used to. :((

They seem to have realized thaat. Now add another four to it. Now it is a remote bomb. The dont want to waste anymore soocide bummers.

Bomb attacks kill four police officers in Bannu, Bara

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/13/two-poli ... blast.html
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The mehsuds would earn many rose petals if only they label those killed in their attacks as blashphemers only.
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Hats off to MMS & Co for help in completely obliterating TSP crimes against India from public consciousness through this Saffron business. This is now unstoppable. Is this yet another manifestation of the extreme moral degradation among India's polity? Is it another manifestation of the national cowardice in not being able to confront a demon, and instead chooses a self-satisfying, convenient escape route? Also, disappointed to read M.J.Akbar's view, that India has lost Kashmir to TSP. How can India be a status quo power if it looses such a crown jewel?
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Mortars fired from Afghanistan kill 8 in Pakistan
Pakistani intelligence officials say mortars allegedly fired from Afghanistan have killed eight people in northwestern Pakistan.

Two intelligence officials say the mortars hit a house Thursday in Tity Mada Khel village in the North Waziristan tribal area. They say the dead included five men and three women. Two other intelligence officials say 11 people were wounded in the attack.
'Militants blow up gas pipeline in SW Pakistan'
QUETTA, Pakistan — Tribal rebels blew up a gas pipeline in Pakistan's insurgency-hit southwestern province of Baluchistan early Thursday, cutting supplies to several areas in cold weather, officials said.

The pre-dawn blast damaged the main pipe bringing gas from Jafarabad district to the provincial capital Quetta and five other districts, Sui Southern Gas Company spokesman Inayatullah Ismail told AFP.
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Pakistan: Child-brides sell for $1500
On November 29, 2010, police officials in the Pakistani town of Sheikhupura raided a wedding hall and arrested the bridegroom and wedding guests as the marriage of a six year-old girl, Uzma, was being performed. Bilal Zafar, a local police officer, confirmed the arrest of Maulvi Ghaus, the cleric who was performing the marriage, as well as the 23 year-old bridegroom. Zafar stated, "we received a tip-off about the marriage but it took us a while to find the place as the wedding was being conducted in secret."

The incident drew an angry response from a newspaper reader, who wrote: "Surely this is a sign of pedophilia; how else does one justify a man in his 20s marrying a girl who is just six years-old? Why are we as a society so tolerant of such barbaric and medieval practices?" It seems that a large number of child marriages are taking place in Pakistan, especially in the rural areas of Sindh province, though only a few such cases are actually reported by the Pakistani media.

Sujag Sansar Organization, a children's rights charity working in the Dadu district of Sindh province, carried out a survey last year to assess the views of local families in six villages of the district. The organization believes the views of these families to be representative of the entire province. According to the survey's findings, some of the reasons for child marriages are: the tribal system of Watta Satta (exchange of brides between families), which is believed to be a key factor; financial reasons; and families' belief that underage marriage is not wrong. In addition, the survey notes that elders also arrange marriages of boys at young ages due to a lack of education and recreational facilities.

In the Dadu district a local journalist was found dead last year after reporting on the marriage of a young girl. A newspaper reader argued recently that child marriages are taking place because government officials are not implementing the provisions of the Child Marriage Restraint Act [of] 1929, which dictates: (1) Punishment for a male adult above 18 years of age for marrying a female child under 16 years of age; (2) punishment for performing such a child marriage; and (3) punishment for negligently failing to prevent the performance of a child marriage.

The Express Tribune, a Pakistani newspaper that has focused on this issue, recently published a report titled, "Child Marriages: 10 Year-Old Girls for Rs. 100,000," highlighting the issue of underage marriages in Pakistan.
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Delhi may curb cement import to retaliate Pak’s onion ban
New Delhi: In an apparent retaliation to the ban imposed by Pakistan on onion exports to India, the Indian government is now mulling to prohibit import of cement from across the border, a newspaper report said on Thursday.
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Maulana Iyer is back in pakilands.

India and Pakistan: retrospect and prospect -- I
KARACHI: Mani Shankar Aiyar, an MP of Indian Rajya Sabha and former Consul-General of India had delivered a lecture to Karachi Council of Foreign Relations on ‘India and Pakistan: Retrospect and prospect’ a few days ago.
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While I agree that a good part of INC's saffron diversion startegy is to cover up the flak it was getting on corruption & incompetence, but there is a TSP strategy too, which consists of 2 possibilities: 1) To do an equal equal and then say you get rid of your terrorists, and we get rid of ours, work well for India, because there is nothing much to give up, 2) Erase TSP crimes from Indian public consciousness and use divisions and apathy among Indians to take this to fruition.

The first strategy will fail because the last thing TSP wants to do is a tradeoff on terror which is their lynch pin. They want much, much more from India.

The second strategy suits everbody, from INC/MMS, to US, and above all to TSP.

INC/MMS will gain by having to do nothing on Mumbai and other crimes by TSP, and continue Kashmir surrender back channel under the quiet diktat from US.

US of course need not worry about irritation from Indian nationalists that there is such a thing as 'global terror' directed against India from TSP. The "extremists on both sides" narrative comes in very handy.

And finally, TSP gains big time because its colossal crimes against India, most recently Mumbai, are washed away down the Indus river in through MMS's Saffron gift. Their status quo and trump card, i.e. pigLeTs are preserved until US tucks its tail and runs away from AfPak. Then the tamasha begins.
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Wondering if anyone is on top of the Reko Diq affair in Balochistan. News reports indicate something like $250 billion worth of gold and copper deposits. I hope this is just another example of madrassa math. The implication of that much hitting the coffers of the Puki state is nothing but trouble for us.
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CRamS wrote:While I agree that a good part of INC's saffron diversion startegy is to cover up the flak it was getting on corruption & incompetence, but there is a TSP strategy too, which consists of 2 possibilities: 1) To do an equal equal and then say you get rid of your terrorists, and we get rid of ours, work well for India, because there is nothing much to give up, 2) Erase TSP crimes from Indian public consciousness and use divisions and apathy among Indians to take this to fruition.

The first strategy will fail because the last thing TSP wants to do is a tradeoff on terror which is their lynch pin. They want much, much more from India.

The second strategy suits everbody, from INC/MMS, to US, and above all to TSP.

INC/MMS will gain by having to do nothing on Mumbai and other crimes by TSP, and continue Kashmir surrender back channel under the quiet diktat from US.

US of course need not worry about irritation from Indian nationalists that there is such a thing as 'global terror' directed against India from TSP. The "extremists on both sides" narrative comes in very handy.

And finally, TSP gains big time because its colossal crimes against India, most recently Mumbai, are washed away down the Indus river in through MMS's Saffron gift. Their status quo and trump card, i.e. pigLeTs are preserved until US tucks its tail and runs away from AfPak. Then the tamasha begins.
True, and there is more to it.

Quoting S Sridhar from a few days ago:

The PA never held the jihadi brothers by the scruff of their neck or anything else, for that matter. Not then, and most definitely not now. Their only solace today is the LeT, not even JeM. LeT tried its best to ingratiate themselves with the Punjabi Taliban as the tide turned decisively towards the latter's favour a few years back. But the suspicion of them being close to the ISI acted against them and they were rebuffed. Then, they started losing their cadres due to voluntary attrition and poaching. So, today, it is my feeling that the LeT and the PA are left to each other and nobody else. Apart from this mutual accommodation, the 'holding by scruff' is (was) as usual a Musharraf perfidy-cum-bravado.
Undoubtedly, with the wise guidance of such sages as Milt Bearden, Bruce Riedel and Robin Raphel… the above truth has become an article of faith among the bright young Clintonistas who dominate today’s US State Department.

And with that wisdom will have come a realization: Because LeT is the TSPA’s “only solace”, as S Sridhar has put it, the US NEEDS the LeT to be strong and intact, if it is to gain any sort of TSPA cooperation to achieve its Afghanistan ends. LeT is the only retardant keeping at least some of the Pakjabi jihadis from being leached away by the Punjabi Taliban.

It is a much-needed buffer organization, the last bastion of Sarkari jihadism that prevents the Pakjabi jihadis from turning en masse against the TSPA and its US allies. If LeT goes over or is dissolved, a split within the ranks of the TSPA itself, comes next.

So by now, it’s safe to assume that the US State Dept. has concluded that leaning too heavily on the LeT is counterproductive for US interests. This fits in very nicely with the long standing Clinton-Wilsonian thesis that state-sponsored jihad in Pakistan is perfectly ok, even desirable, as long as its terrorism is directed exclusively against India and not the West.

There is one small problem, however. In recent years, US counter-terrorism and intelligence agencies (acting in good faith) collected evidence against the LeT’s international terror links, evidence that was instrumental in building the case that culminated in the UN declaring the LeT an international terrorist organization.

This makes things inconvenient for people in the GOTUS who want to go easy on LeT as a means to win the “war on terror”. How to justify winking at the activity of an organization previously declared an international terrorist group? Maybe, the case needs to be “unmade” a little bit, so that the erstwhile “misguided” declaration of LeT as a terrorist group can be undermined, perhaps eventually undone altogether. Foot has to be extracted from mouth. How?

One key exhibit in the case made by US counter-terrorism agencies against the LeT was the involvement of Arif Usmani, a senior lashkar operative, in the Samjhauta rail blasts of February 2007. Very inconvenient.

If the US itself suddenly declared that they were mistaken in this, for no apparent reason… and absolved LeT of any connection to Samjhauta… that would look too suspicious. Someone in the FBI might even blow a whistle.

So…something apparently “external” needs to happen in order to justify re-opening the FBI assessment of the Samjhauta attack, something that casts doubt on the case made by the US against LeT’s perpetration of that attack.

For example: something like a perfectly-tailored (and widely broadcast) confession before a magistrate taking responsibility for the attack… by someone else completely disconnected from LeT but allegedly belonging to a different terrorist group.

Such as a “Hindu” or “Saffron” terror group, which Rahul Gandhi has already cited as the main category of threat to India’s security today.

The confession extracted from Swami Aseemanand on the involvement of “Hindu terror” groups in the Samjhauta blasts… perpetrated allegedly by one Sunil Joshi who can tell no tales because he is conveniently dead… is just what the doctor ordered.

This isn’t just my idea, or a personal CT. From this Swapan Dasgupta article:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/309363/Usin ... lines.html

There is a larger international dimension as well. The US investigators have claimed, based on inputs from sources in Pakistan, that it was a Lashkar-e-Tayyeba squad under Arif Usmani that had carried out the blasts. This was an important basis for the UN Security Council decision to brand the LeT a terrorist organisation, a decision that has international ramifications. Does Aseemanda's testimony overturn these conclusions?
You see, it all works out very neatly for the protagonists.

Doubt is cast on the case made against LeT, and by extension, the UNSC's declaration of LeT as an international terrorist organization. While this may not lead to an overturning of the declaration, it adds a sufficient quantity of murkiness to justify endless delays and circumventions by the West in acting against LeT.

Thus LeT is allowed to continue flourishing as a retardant/buffer organization between the TSPA and the jihadi public of TSP. TSPA wins, LeT wins, and the West wins.

And India?

Well, as promised, the Congress GOI has gone more than half the distance, correct? Who said sellouts had to be restricted to such public utterances as in Sharm-el-Shaikh and Thimpu?

Surely there will be commensurate rewards from Washington for those who facilitated the “redemption of LeT” by apportioning the blame for Samjhauta to “Hindu terrorists” instead. After all, economic growth (subcontracted to American reactor-builders and others) is far more important than the lives of a few mango Indians taken out by the occasional LeT attack. Why should it be that important to have LeT be declared an international terrorist group?

Not only that, the Congress GOI gets to use its tremendous success against implicating “Hindu terrorists” for Samjhauta in other ways on the domestic front. It gets to embarrass the BJP. It gets to silence an anti-conversion activist. And it gets to divert public attention from its continuous, ongoing rape and plunder of the public exchequer.

All win-win for the Congress. All lose-lose for India. But when has a victory for the Congress ever failed to imply a concomitant loss for India?
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http://www.thepakistaninewspaper.com/ne ... p?id=18791
Pakistan ‘epicentre’ for global terrorism: Mike Mullen :shock:
WASHINGTON: US chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, on Wednesday called Pakistan the ”epicentre” for global terrorism and said he was ”confident” that the Pakistani military knows what it has to do to eliminate the threat.”It is absolutely critical that the safe havens in Pakistan get shut down. We cannot succeed in Afghanistan without that,” he said.However, in an unusually upbeat assessment on the war, Mullen declared that the enemy in Afghanistan was losing.The remark comes as the US faces a critical six-month period in Afghanistan.US President Barack Obama last year ordered a build-up of troops with the promise that they would start leaving the country in July. Many of Obama’s Democratic supporters in Congress say they want to see significant progress by then.But senior military officials, including Mullen, say they still aren’t sure how many troops can leave this summer and from what areas they would be pulled. They caution that significant drawdowns might not happen until closer to 2014, when Afghan President Hamid Karzai has promised to take over security of the country.Mullen predicted on Wednesday that there would be ”plenty of forces left” come July and he expects violence to rise as US and Afghan forces continue to confront Taliban strongholds.But, he added, local towns are beginning to reject Taliban fighters and that surprising progress is being seen in tough areas like southern Kandahar province.”I have every confidence that (the enemy) will continue to lose, so long as coalition and Afghan forces increase their presence and their pressure on his operations and improve their own capacity,” he told reporters at the Foreign Press Center.
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http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQE11805E.shtml
Security Council Committee established pursuant to resolution 1267 (1999) concerning Al-Qaida and the Taliban and Associated Individuals and Entities
NARRATIVE SUMMARIES OF REASONS FOR LISTING
QE.L.118.05. LASHKAR-E-TAYYIBA

2007 train bombing is not there. :(

PS:
Arif Qasmani (QI.Q.271.09), listed on 29 June 2009 (not Arif Usmani)

PPS:
Paydirt on Arif Qasmani
http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQI27109E.shtml
Arif Qasmani has also provided financial and other support to Al-Qaida (QE.A.4.01). As of late 2006, Qasmani provided funding to Al-Qaida members and facilitated the return of foreign fighters to their respective countries. Between 2004 and 2005, Qasmani provided Al-Qaida with supplies and weapons and facilitated the movement of Al-Qaida leaders in and out of Afghanistan. In return for Qasmani’s support, Al-Qaida provided him with operatives to support the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani also facilitated the movement of Al-Qaida personnel out of Afghanistan in 2001. In 2005, Arif Qasmani provided Taliban leaders with a means to smuggle personnel, equipment and weapons into Afghanistan.
PPPS: Please refer above UN Security Council note in various letters to editor,etc., that you may choose to write.

PPPPS: US Treasury notice on Arif Qasmani:
http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/pr ... tg192.aspx
(July 1, 2009)
Arif Qasmani is the chief coordinator for Lashkar-e Tayyiba's (LET) dealings with outside organizations and has provided significant support for LET terrorist operations. Qasmani has worked with LET to facilitate terrorist attacks, including the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani conducted fundraising activities on behalf of LET in 2005 and utilized money that he received from Dawood Ibrahim, an Indian crime figure and terrorist supporter, to facilitate the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India.

Since 2001, Arif Qasmani has also provided financial and other support and services to al Qaida, including facilitating the movement of al Qaida leaders and personnel in and out of Afghanistan, the return of foreign fighters to their respective countries, and the provision of supplies and weapons. In return for Qasmani's support, al Qaida provided Qasmani with operatives to support the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. In 2005, Qasmani provided Taliban leaders with a safe haven and a means to smuggle personnel, equipment, and weapons into Afghanistan.
PPPPPS: Qasmani's house address, as per US Treasury Dept. (in case anyone has a spare drone lying around)
Address:
House Number 136, KDA Scheme No. 1,
Tipu Sultan Road, Karachi, Pakistan
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A_Gupta wrote:http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQE11805E.shtml
Security Council Committee established pursuant to resolution 1267 (1999) concerning Al-Qaida and the Taliban and Associated Individuals and Entities
NARRATIVE SUMMARIES OF REASONS FOR LISTING
QE.L.118.05. LASHKAR-E-TAYYIBA

2007 train bombing is not there. :(
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Don't be sad :) On that link is only a summary with a few attacks highlighted, doesn't claim to be an exhaustive list! Kaluchak is not mentioned on this page either... neither are the Gateway of India blasts of Mumbai 2003, Akshardham 2002, Mumbai train blasts 2006, Delhi Diwali attack 2005, Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Jaipur, and many other LeT triumphs.

You're right though, it's Arif Qasmani not Usmani. Damn that Swapan Da and his typos.
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^^^Read all my updates.
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If US wants to let LeT off the hook, then it is a very recent decision.
US Dept of Treasury issued further notices against LeT as recently as
Nov 4, 2010 (may more recent, haven't found it yet)
http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/pr ... tg944.aspx
Treasury Targets Pakistan-Based Terrorist Organizations Lashkar-E Tayyiba and Jaish-E Mohammed

11/4/2010
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Treasury Action Includes Designation of Key Operational Commander in Mumbai Attacks

WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of the Treasury today targeted the financial and support networks of Pakistan-based terrorist organizations Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LET) and Jaish-e Mohammed (JEM). Treasury took action against Azam Cheema, who helped train operatives for the November 2008 Mumbai attacks and was the "mastermind" behind the July 2006 Mumbai train bombings carried out by LET, for acting for or on behalf of LET. Treasury also acted against Hafiz Abdul Rahman Makki, head of LET's political affairs department, for acting for or on behalf of LET. Al Rehmat Trust, an operational front for JEM was designated for providing support to and for acting for or on behalf of JEM, and Mohammed Masood Azhar Alvi, JEM's founder and leader, was also designated today for acting for on behalf of JEM. Today's action, taken pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, prohibits U.S. persons from engaging in any transactions with these individuals and entity and freezes any assets the designees have under U.S. jurisdiction.
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It could be sudden decision. Indian TV was agog that Hafiz Saeed is demanding TSP govt send a lawyer to US to represent him. So something is cooking if not smoldering.
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Rudradev,
Interesting line of thought.
If I may add to this.

There are you tube interviews of Sayed Salauddin, and other terror bosses in pakistan, where they mention that they have been called by the US ambassador to Pakistan for a meeting.

Maulana Mani Shankar Aiyar winds up repeatedly in Pakistan and does some of the most nauseating == there. I don't have proof of any of this, but what prevents a GoI from interacting with the ISI / LET directly to come to some form of 'accommodation'? Maybe some of the lower cadres get pest-e-shaheeded in return for the top leadership being acquitted, no major terror attacks in India, in return for Jaziya by GoI.

The congress gets to gain immensely by blaming the BJP conglomerate, helps them win another term in office. Another term in office will make a national political party do almost anything the world over.
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RudradevJi,

Great analsyis. But remember the collusion of the media. In India, the entire DDM is in INC's pocket, so when INC pulls a rope trick like this, nobody to aggressively question and expose this chicanery. At least in US, its Dem == Reps, both in govt and media, and someone in the media will expose such a daylight fraud pulled off by Dems on Reps or vice versa. And of course, neither Dems nor Reps will stoop so low as to sell their country's interest as we are witnessing in India through this Saffron BS.
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"His profile shows him to be a worldly person, someone who would grow a beard, then shave it off and grow long hair. And he often fell in love with different women.

"If he were such a lover of the Prophet, he would have committed a murder a long time ago - as he has often been on security details assigned to take offenders booked under the blasphemy law from jail to the court and back."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12184274
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"His profile shows him to be a worldly person, someone who would grow a beard, then shave it off and grow long hair. And he often fell in love with different women.

"If he were such a lover of the Prophet, he would have committed a murder a long time ago - as he has often been on security details assigned to take offenders booked under the blasphemy law from jail to the court and back."
This is BS. Those offenders were going to be halaaled by the state anyways. He didn't have to do it. Salman Taseer was not even going to be charged with blasphemy, even though he was very much a blasphemer in the eyes of the more pious.
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Dutch hockey coach reluctant to return to Pak over security
Pakistan could lose their Dutch national team hockey coach Michel van den Heuvel who said on Thursday he was not keen to return because of security concerns.
Heuvel could even end his contract with the Pakistan Hockey Federation (PHF) despite having entered fresh negotiations to continue in the job until the 2012 Olympic Games in London. However, he said that if the PHF held the team’s training camps in the Netherlands and at other neutral venues he would be happy to continue.
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CRamS wrote:In India, the entire DDM is in INC's pocket, so when INC pulls a rope trick like this, nobody to aggressively question and expose this chicanery.
While agreeing with the general tenor saar, I'll say that the media in desh are all a sensationalist bunch (aren't they all the same everywhere?). In the typical free for all that exists in India, the media will run this story for a while during which the party in power will exploit this issue. Once the issue has run its course, everyone will forget all about it. But just as with the Col. Purohit issue, truth will eventually surface, although in a less spectacular way than the current tamasha.
Meanwhile there will be media outlets which will question the whole tamasha, some already are.

While Tehelka might have dubious funding sources, their news always seems to rely on the dramatic. Truckload of salt needed.

BTW, I see a certain image being projected by GoI and the internal law enforcement agencies that they are willing to go after 'hindu terror'. I wonder what effect this has on the outside world and the neighbourhood.
CRamS wrote:And of course, neither Dems nor Reps will stoop so low as to sell their country's interest as we are witnessing in India through this Saffron BS.
But sir, you know better than that, this is a little debatable.
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Sour grapes, eh?
Waqar happy Paki players not part of IPL
Pakistan cricket coach Waqar Younis is more than happy for his players to be missing from the lucrative Indian Premier League (IPL) Twenty20 tournament.
Aside from the first IPL tournament in 2008, Pakistanis have been shut out of the league, though the exact reasoning remains unclear. :wink:
I always think that, in a way, it helps Pakistan cricket because we can concentrate more on international cricket
I’m happy with way things are because our boys are a lot fresher
And, this seclusion is good for the paki players because it helps them explore other "innovative means and methods" to make up for the lack of money that IPL could have doled out to them. Eat your hearts out, evil yindoos.
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The important question now being will the sellouts in New Delhi extradite Aseemanand into the hands of Poaki barbarians for some extra cookies from Unkil? or maybe in exchange for Sarabjit Singh ?
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nachiket wrote:
"If he were such a lover of the Prophet, he would have committed a murder a long time ago - as he has often been on security details assigned to take offenders booked under the blasphemy law from jail to the court and back."
This is intolerable. How dare the BBC, a kufr organization question the piousness of a true ghazi and believer hain? Haven't there been robbers, dacoits people of shady character who have seen the light and become holy after attaining enlightenement?

Very sad tactics by the british to try and malign a nation herrow of pakistan. Shameful to say the least.
anupmisra wrote:Dutch hockey coach reluctant to return to Pak over security
However, he said that if the PHF held the team’s training camps in the Netherlands and at other neutral venues he would be happy to continue.
Can they go and play hockey in China?
But only on the condition that the chinese allow a few fans of Pakistani Hockey to visit the practice sessions.
I demand that the Chinese issue multiple entry visas to the Pakistani fans who wish to see their stars doing practice.

AoA
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Ambar wrote:The important question now being will the sellouts in New Delhi extradite Aseemanand into the hands of Poaki barbarians for some extra cookies from Unkil? or maybe in exchange for Sarabjit Singh ?
Won't ever happen Ambar,
All this seems to be a tamasha until proven otherwise.
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another day in boom boom town..

Geo reporter gunned down in Karachi
KARACHI: Wali Khan Babar, a reporter working for Geo News, was gunned down in a targeted attack on Thursday night in Liaqatabad. Babar, 29, was the first reporter to die in the line of duty in Pakistan in 2011.

According to police, the bullet riddled body of Wali Khan Babar was found in his car, AEE-613, near the Super Market shopping centre, Liaqatabad, in the Super Market police jurisdiction.

According to Geo News, the reporter was on his way back home from Geo News office, when he was attacked by terrorists. Reports said Babar’s car was stopped by terrorists who, after making identification, shot him dead.

Geo News said it was an incident of target killing, with Babar receiving at least five bullets — two on forehead, one on jaw and two in neck. According to hospital sources, Wali received at least five bullets.

On the other hand, SSP Liaqatabad Naveed Nisar Khwaja told The News that Wali Khan was visiting some person, who killed him from point blank range. His colleagues at Geo said that all Thursday morning the reporter was involved in covering the police operation against criminal elements at Pehalwan Goth. He then went to the channel and filed a report, which was aired at 9 pm. Babar was killed around 9:21 pm.
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A masterful forgery

January 14, 2011 7:36:26 AM

SUNANDA K DATTA-RAY

A ‘document' says Pakistan's elite is a mirror image of India's elite. But as we know, any mention of Kashmir unites Pakistan's civilian and military elite in jihadi battle.

A point of conversation when Ms Nirupama Rao meets her Pakistani opposite number in Thimphu could be a bizarre document that inadvertently suggests that high society in the two countries are a mirror image of each other. That apart, the clumsily forged “End 2010 summary analysis on Pakistan” exposes the Pakistani military’s fear of being ousted by the “incestuous club” of a “mostly secularised and Westernised” pro-Indian elite.

A Pakistani source sent the document to a British writer who forwarded it to me. Its ostensible author, India’s High Commissioner, Mr Sharat Sabharwal, seemingly gloats on nearing the fulfilment of the “aim” “to undermine” Pakistan “internally and externally with the intent to weaken it to such an extent, where it does not pose any further threat to India’s regional goals”. This assessment of New Delhi’s foreign policy is only to be expected. ……………………………….

The Pioneer
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Ayaz Amir
"If the Pakistani establishment continues to see India as the enemy, keeps pouring money into an arms race it cannot afford, is afflicted by delusions of grandeur relative to Afghanistan, and remains unmindful of the economic disaster into which the country is fast slipping, we will never get a grip on the challenges we face.

The raging cleric, frothing at the mouth, is thus not the problem. He is merely a symptom of something larger. Pakistan’s problem is the delusional general and the incompetent politician and as long as this is not fixed, the holy armies of bigotry will remain on the march."
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As the GoI goes after the saffron terrorists, another arm of the legal system does this:
NIA chargesheets 30 SIMI activists
Kochi, January 13
The NIA today filed a chargesheet against 30 hardcore SIMI activists from nine states accusing them of sedition, waging war against the state and other offences for holding a terror training camp in Kerala in 2007.

The accused were involved in various terror acts in the country, including blasts in Ahmedabad that killed 57 on July 26, 2008, the chargesheet filed before a CBI court here said.

From December 10-12, 2007, they held a secret training camp at Thangalpara in Wagamon in Kerala, where classes on “Jihad in India” were also conducted. — PTI
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OT for this thread, but to let the Cheena worshiping biradhers know...
Indian economy will grow faster than Chinese in 2012: World Bank
The multilateral agency`s World Economic Outlook has projected that India will grow at 8.7% in 2012, compared to China`s 8.4%.
Inshallah!
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ramana wrote:It could be sudden decision. Indian TV was agog that Hafiz Saeed is demanding TSP govt send a lawyer to US to represent him. So something is cooking if not smoldering.
This is what caught my eye. Sudden equal equal between AQ & LeT by the US.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/pakistan-epice ... 4-870.html
'It's not just Haqqani any more, or Al Qaeda, or . the Afghan Taliban or LeT [Lashkar-e-Taiba], it's all of them working together, in ways that two years ago they absolutely did not.'
But I don't buy into 'two years ago they absolutely did not' cover up. They have always been cooperating, collaborating & evolving together under one umbrella (we know which umbrella).
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Karachi violence toll rises to 16

KARACHI: At least nine persons were killed in the latest wave of violence in the metropolis over the last 12 hours, bringing the overall death toll of firing incidents since Thursday morning to 16.
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arun wrote:
A masterful forgery

January 14, 2011 7:36:26 AM

SUNANDA K DATTA-RAY

A ‘document' says Pakistan's elite is a mirror image of India's elite. But as we know, any mention of Kashmir unites Pakistan's civilian and military elite in jihadi battle.

A point of conversation when Ms Nirupama Rao meets her Pakistani opposite number in Thimphu could be a bizarre document that inadvertently suggests that high society in the two countries are a mirror image of each other. That apart, the clumsily forged “End 2010 summary analysis on Pakistan” exposes the Pakistani military’s fear of being ousted by the “incestuous club” of a “mostly secularised and Westernised” pro-Indian elite.

A Pakistani source sent the document to a British writer who forwarded it to me. Its ostensible author, India’s High Commissioner, Mr Sharat Sabharwal, seemingly gloats on nearing the fulfilment of the “aim” “to undermine” Pakistan “internally and externally with the intent to weaken it to such an extent, where it does not pose any further threat to India’s regional goals”. This assessment of New Delhi’s foreign policy is only to be expected. ……………………………….

The Pioneer
Interesting, if badly written article. This describes a Pakistan view of their RAPE and our DIE. Just like we on here describe DIE as anti national, this paki paper recognises RAPE as anti-Pakistan. In fact the Paki has attributed the very characteristics to the Paki elite that we ascribe to DIE.
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Gagan wrote:. . . but what prevents a GoI from interacting with the ISI / LET directly to come to some form of 'accommodation'? Maybe some of the lower cadres get pest-e-shaheeded in return for the top leadership being acquitted, no major terror attacks in India, in return for Jaziya by GoI.
Gagan, LeT & PA have very clear objectives vis-a-vis India and we know that. If at all they decide to take jaziya from GoI and stop terrorist attacks, that would be for a very short period based on tactical calculations. This period of lull would be more than compensated later on as the jaziya money would be used to plan more spectacular attacks.
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Holbrooke "proving very hard to replace"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/lauraroze ... place.html
Holbrooke, meanwhile, is "proving very hard to replace," a U.S. diplomat tells POLITICO. "My understanding is that the secretary wants someone senior and is interviewing lots of people."

“My sense is she [Clinton] would prefer someone who, as Holbrooke did, has separate standing with members of Congress, the Democratic Party, the media, etc.,” one former senior U.S. South Asia hand said. “But admittedly there are very few such individuals.”

Holbrooke’s former deputy and acting Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan (SRAP) Frank Ruggiero has taken himself out of the running to take the job permanently, believing it should be held by someone of very "high stature," a State Department official said.

Veteran U.S. diplomat Jim Dobbins said, if asked, he would give it serious thought, but said "he is very happy" where he is and "wouldn't regret not being asked," he wrote in an e-mail.

Foreign Policy.com reported that former Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, a close friend of Clinton, would merit consideration, but he “already has a very good job," the diplomat said, suggesting Talbott would likely stay put as president of the Brookings Institution. (He didn’t respond to a query.)

Nor did former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan and Iraq Ryan Crocker, now dean of Texas A&M University's Bush School of Public Affairs, who has already been floated by conservatives as the "dream team" companion to Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan. Crocker worked closely with Petraeus when the general commanded international forces in Iraq.

Crocker “is widely admired on the Hill, for his service and commitment, but is he willing to do this to himself?” the former South Asia hand wondered. "For most people Islamabad directly to Baghdad would be enough for one lifetime (to say nothing of Beirut, etc.).”

(The well-regarded former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, Anne Patterson, is already preparing for another assignment -- POLITICO previously reported she is expected to be named to a diplomatic post in Sudan.)

The search for a new special representative to succeed Holbrooke comes amid other changes in the wider administration South Asia power structure. Among them, the expected departure later this winter of the NSC senior director for South Asia Anish Goel, and a broader restructuring of the NSC that among other things may rethink the way the South Asian directorate -- minus the staff working on Afghanistan and Pakistan -- currently reports to the NSC senior director for the Central Region Dennis Ross, regional experts said. (Goel did not respond to a query.) The White House did not have immediate guidance on the NSC structural changes being considered.
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Rohit_K wrote:Geo reporter gunned down in Karachi
KARACHI: Wali Khan Babar, a reporter working for Geo News, was gunned down in a targeted attack on Thursday night in Liaqatabad. Babar, 29, was the first reporter to die in the line of duty in Pakistan in 2011.

According to Geo News, the reporter was on his way back home from Geo News office, when he was attacked by terrorists. Reports said Babar’s car was stopped by terrorists who, after making identification, shot him dead.

His colleagues at Geo said that all Thursday morning the reporter was involved in covering the police operation against criminal elements at Pehalwan Goth. He then went to the channel and filed a report, which was aired at 9 pm. Babar was killed around 9:21 pm.
Read on
Qadri effect - police birathers shapeshifting to terrorists and killing reporter birather
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Holbrooke "proving very hard to replace"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/lauraroze ... place.html
Holbrooke, meanwhile, is "proving very hard to replace,"
Sorry for OT but my car sticker would read "Ramana garu/Shivji/Brihaspatiji/Rajeshaji for af-pak advisor"
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Reuters: U.S. to help Bangladesh conduct 40-year-old war crimes trials
The United States will help Bangladesh stage "open and transparent" trials for crimes against humanity committed during the 40-year-old Bangladesh war for independence, a visiting U.S. envoy said on Thursday.
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