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She likes Brahmos doesnt she ? :)
Brahmos
Sorry, OT, but just couldn't resist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju1UwmgkKgI

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Guys,

Like the follow on order for the Akash. Has there been a follow on order for the NAG ATGM?
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Naive question.In an era of AESA radars of higher power and complexity would radar guided missiles hold its own.I was thinking that missiles with multiple sensors like the new chinese dual active passive seekers might have a chance.I am thinking long range guidance not terminal.
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Singha wrote:and another woman is attempting to climb on and 'ride' it. lol.
Anyone notice that the Brahmos looks oddly phallic :D

It can penetrate enemy defenses.
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biswas wrote:
Singha wrote:and another woman is attempting to climb on and 'ride' it. lol.
Anyone notice that the Brahmos looks oddly phallic :D
That appears to be the joke in that photo. That's a man pretending that it's his di*k and his girlfriend presumably pulling it in.
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Is it endo-atmospheric or exo-atmospheric or both :D
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Harpoons: India to pay US almost three times more than Pak
The defence ministry is set to procure 21 AGM-84L Harpoon Block II missiles and its five training varieties of ATM 84L Harpoon Block II from the US government for a total of $ 200 million (approximately Rs 909 crore).

But this price is about 200 per cent more than what Pakistan paid four years ago for the same missiles, the Harpoon Block II. While the average unit cost of the missiles for India is a little less than $ 8 million (approximately Rs 36 crore), Islamabad paid only about $ 3 million (approximately Rs 13 crore) per unit. Pakistan's consignment of 130 units had cost $ 370 million (approximately Rs 1,682 crore).

While the defence ministry refused to comment on the deal in response to a written questionnaire,..
Do we really need these missiles so bad that we agreed to pay 200% more?

Or is it just a token deal to show our gratitude to unkill?
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Gratitude for what? :?:
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nash wrote:Is it endo-atmospheric or exo-atmospheric or both :D
I think it is both.
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Kailash wrote:Do we really need these missiles so bad that we agreed to pay 200% more?
By paying the full price we are financing Pakistan procurement of Harpoon at a discount price :P
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You guys are all Harpoon illiterate.
There are two models of Harpoon:
1) Single target (India only)
2) Twin target (India or China)

The former are cheaper and Pakistan has bought them.
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pl note :
India intends to use the HARPOON missiles to modernize its Air Force Anti-Surface Warfare mission capabilities and improve its naval operational flexibility. The missiles will assist the Indian Navy to develop and enhance standardization and operational ability with the United States. India will have no difficulty absorbing these missiles into its armed forces.
platform phyrring logic/integration is not mentioned.. where as sometime back the khans complained that pakis-with the help of chips have modified their block 2 harpoons.
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The Paki missiles subsidy is being made up in the Indian order. This will always happen as long as India buys stuff from suppliers who also arm TSP. The standard spin will be the small qty drives the unit cost up!

And SaiK is right. There was a news story about pakis using others to upgrade their stock.

These Harpoons are Sea Eagle replacements.
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ramana wrote:The Paki missiles subsidy is being made up in the Indian order. This will always happen as long as India buys stuff from suppliers who also arm TSP. The standard spin will be the small qty drives the unit cost up!

And SaiK is right. There was a news story about pakis using others to upgrade their stock.

These Harpoons are Sea Eagle replacements.
Many countries have updated stock Blk I to II so anyone one of them could do it for Pakistan. It is equivalent of buying a new PC with Windows 7 for three times price tag when you simply buy a Xp machine and upgrade it yourself.
Even USN chose not to procure Blk II so Boeing has to make the money somehow...
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Well it is not about who makes money and how. It is all about the illegal aspects of upgrades where chips play important part of paki weaponary, largely aimed at us.

dhoti shiver note: It is for us to be aware of our surroundings so that we know what to expect. [the frequency of the shiver matters of course to take this serious]

btw, if boeing wants to make money, they could sell more of their xp to pakis, and get them upgraded via chips. why no repeat order from pakis!? no money?

--the ddm reasoning makes again the case of hyphenation and bring about a point to babu dhoties that for the same paki-equal-cr@p why pay more. the silence is chilling and hence sensation for ddm.

Do we really need harpoons, when we all set for air launched Brahmos. No. Again a ddm sensation.

Babus can be stealth for our doctrine.. sudh deshi ghee here, where enough is enough, let the big piece of deals go to xyz which IAF really wants (mrca).

BTW, babus's silence killed two aspects in one stone - the hamara paas be harpoons hai! and the decreasing the dhoti shiver to near zero. :mrgreen:
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EXERPTED FROM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpoon_%28missile%29

The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile system, developed and manufactured by McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing Defense, Space & Security). In 2004, Boeing delivered the 7,000th Harpoon unit since the weapon's introduction in 1977. The missile system has also been further developed into a land-strike weapon, the Standoff Land Attack Missile (SLAM).

The regular Harpoon uses active radar homing, and a low-level, sea-skimming cruise trajectory to improve survivability and lethality. The missile's launch platforms include:
  • Fixed-wing aircraft (the AGM-84, without the solid-fuel rocket booster)
  • Surface ships (the RGM-84, fitted with a solid-fuel rocket booster that detaches when expended, to allow the missile's main turbojet to maintain flight)
  • Submarines (the UGM-84, fitted with a solid-fuel rocket booster and encapsulated in a container to enable submerged launch through a torpedo tube);
  • Coastal defense batteries, from which it would be fired with a solid-fuel rocket booster.
The missile is comparable to the French-made Exocet missile, the Swedish RBS-15 missile, the Russian SS-N-25 Switchblade, the British Sea Eagle missile, and the Chinese Yingji.

...

Harpoon Block II

In production at Boeing facilities in Saint Charles, Missouri, is the Harpoon Block II, intended to offer an expanded engagement envelope, enhanced resistance to electronic countermeasures and improved targeting. Specifically, the Harpoon was initially designed as an open-ocean weapon. The Block II missiles continue progress begun with Block IE, and the Block II missile provides the Harpoon with a littoral-water anti-ship capability.

The key improvements of the Harpoon Block II are obtained by incorporating the inertial measurement unit from the Joint Direct Attack Munition program, and the software, computer, Global Positioning System (GPS)/inertial navigation system and GPS antenna/receiver from the SLAM Expanded Response (SLAM-ER), an upgrade to the SLAM.

Although initially tested from U.S. Navy ships, the decision was made to not procure Harpoon Block II for the U.S. Navy fleet. Boeing lists 28 foreign navies as Block II customers.

(http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/mis ... ounder.pdf)

India acquired 24 Harpoon Block II missiles to arm its maritime strike Jaguar fighters in a deal worth $170 million through the Foreign Military Sales system. In December 2010, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified U.S. Congress of a possible sale of 21 additional AGM-84L HARPOON Block II Missiles and associated equipment, parts and logistical support for a complete package worth approximately $200 million; the Indian government intends to use these missiles on its Indian Navy P-8I Neptune maritime patrol aircraft.

Range is 278 km. Harpoon Block 2 missiles are designated AGM/RGM/UGM-84L.

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Operational History

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In December 1988, a Harpoon launched by an F/A-18 Hornet fighter from the aircraft carrier USS Constellation killed one sailor when it struck the merchant ship Jagvivek, a 250 ft (76 m) long Indian-owned ship, during an exercise at the Pacific Missile Range near Kauai, Hawaii. A Notice to Mariners had been issued warning of the danger, but the Jagvivek strayed into the test range area, and the Harpoon missile, fortunately loaded just with an inert dummy warhead, locked onto it instead of its intended target.

In June 2009, it was reported by an American newspaper, citing unnamed officials from the Obama administration and the U.S. Congress, that the American government had accused Pakistan of illegally modifying some older Harpoon missiles to strike land-based targets. Pakistani officials denied this and they claimed that the United States was referring to a new Pakistani-designed missile. Some international experts were also reported to be very sceptical of the accusations. Robert Hewson, editor of Jane's Air Launched Weapons, pointed out that the Harpoon is not suitable for the land-attack role due to deficiency in range. He also stated that Pakistan was already armed with more sophisticated missiles of Pakistani or Chinese design and, therefore, "beyond the need to reverse-engineer old U.S. kit." Hewson offered that the missile tested by Pakistan was part of an undertaking to develop conventionally armed missiles, capable of being air- or surface-launched, to counter its rival India's missile arsenal. It was later stated that Pakistan and the U.S. administration had reached some sort of agreement allowing U.S. officials to inspect Pakistan's inventory of Harpoon missiles, and the issue had been resolved.
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So therefore… 24 Harpoons already installed on IAF Jaguars + 21 Harpoons for Indian Navy P-8I Neptune maritime patrol aircraft + 5 Harpoon Training Kits = TOTAL OF 50 Harpoons in the Indian arsenal. IMHO, this is not a significant strength, considering failure rates and usage rates, especially vis a vis other ordinance in the Indian arsenal, most especially the Brahmos which has the same role as a Harpoon, but with much greater targetting capability, speed, range and punch.

This tells me that the purchase might have more to do with dissecting the Harpoons in order to develop and test countermeasures meant to foil a Pakistani Harpoon attack. Any thoughts on this prospect?
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Ravi Karumanchiri wrote:So therefore… 24 Harpoons already installed on IAF Jaguars + 21 Harpoons for Indian Navy P-8I Neptune maritime patrol aircraft + 5 Harpoon Training Kits = TOTAL OF 50 Harpoons in the Indian arsenal. IMHO, this is not a significant strength, considering failure rates and usage rates, especially vis a vis other ordinance in the Indian arsenal, most especially the Brahmos which has the same role as a Harpoon, but with much greater targetting capability, speed, range and punch.

This tells me that the purchase might have more to do with dissecting the Harpoons in order to develop and test countermeasures meant to foil a Pakistani Harpoon attack. Any thoughts on this prospect?
Brahmos is limited to just Su-30MKIs, which leaves us with Harpoon for Jaguar, Naval LCA, P-8s,Tu-142,Mig-29k and Harriers as it replaces the Sea Eagle. Does not make sense to order that many Blk 2 (which pakistan doesn't have) at that price just to dissect them, you can get second hand harpoons at far cheaper price (which China did).
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I don't know about 'disection' either -- it was just a guess -- and maybe you don't need 21 Harpoons for that purpose. But, maybe you would go through 21 Harpoons during testing of countermeasures -- again, just a guess. ALSO...

EXCERPTED FROM http://rusnavy.com/news/othernavies/ind ... T_ID=10007

Upgraded ASW aircraft Tu-142ME was delivered to Indian Navy
12.08.2010

Long-range ASW aircraft Tu-142ME was handed over to India after overhaul and modernization by JSC TAVIA. In 2010 another Tu-142ME will be also capitally repaired, upgraded, and delivered to Indian Navy, reported ITAR-TASS referring to the company's press service.

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In 1986 eight ASW aircrafts Tu-142MK were delivered to India under nomenclature of Tu-142ME which were built by Taganrog Aircraft Factory. Those planes were equipped with Korshun-K search-and-track ASW system which included magnetometer MMS-106 Ladoga and hydrology reconnaissance equipment Nerchinsk. All of those aircrafts are in need of capital repairs and to be upgraded with new onboard equipment, modernized jet-prop engines, and new weapons. According to initial plan, all 8 planes were supposed to pass modernization within 6 years and be ready in 2010-2011. After capital repairs the service life of each aircraft becomes 16 years longer.

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Max flight range of Tu-142ME is 12,000 km, max flight speed (weight of 138 tons, altitude of 7,000 meters) is 855 kph, cruising speed is 735 kph, flight duration is 9 hours. Max combat load (6 BrahMos cruise missiles, as was proposed to Indian Navy) makes 9.6 tons, standard combat load (8 Kh-35 antiship missiles) is 4.4 tons. Typical search-and-attack version of the aircraft is equipped with up to 140 radio sonobuoys.


&

EXCERPTED FROM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos

BrahMos

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Indian Air Force

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In addition, India's 5 Il-38 and 8 Tupolev Tu-142 maritime patrol bombers are also to be armed with the missile. Estimated capacity is 6-BrahMos each as per Indian Navy. There are reports of efforts towards adding the capability to fire the Indo-Russian Brahmos cruise missile from these aircraft. Mockups have been displayed with air-launched Brahmos attached to underwing pylons on the Indian Navy aircraft.

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Anyway,

Here's something that might bring a cheer
In the Missiles cluster, user trials for Nag missile
were completed; the tactical missiles, Helina and Astra
underwent a number of successful developmental
launches; the ballistic Control and Navigation Test
(CNT) flight trials of Long Range Surface-to-Air Missile
(LRSAM) were conducted; an active radar seeker,
for AD mission, has been developed and tested for
acceptance; and the first computerised War Gaming
Center at Chandimandir has been established.
There's more where this came from. on phased array radars and such like. Read at your leisure.

http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/nl/2011/january.pdf
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Ravi Karumanchiri wrote:So therefore… 24 Harpoons already installed on IAF Jaguars + 21 Harpoons for Indian Navy P-8I Neptune maritime patrol aircraft + 5 Harpoon Training Kits = TOTAL OF 50 Harpoons in the Indian arsenal. IMHO, this is not a significant strength, considering failure rates and usage rates, especially vis a vis other ordinance in the Indian arsenal, most especially the Brahmos which has the same role as a Harpoon, but with much greater targetting capability, speed, range and punch.

This tells me that the purchase might have more to do with dissecting the Harpoons in order to develop and test countermeasures meant to foil a Pakistani Harpoon attack. Any thoughts on this prospect?
Here check this out on how many quantities IAF has for various PGM types:

A list of current/planned PGMs in IAF's inventory (1980-2010)

You can see from this list that IAF does not really possess "large" quantities of PGMs of any type.

As you can also see from that list, 24 Harpoons are a direct replacement for the Sea Eagle SSM. There are only really 6 Jaguar IMs in the IAF dedicated for anti-shipping duties. It would seem the other aircraft types are not really geared for anti-shipping role.
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Hmmm ... interesting choice of words there - "demonstration"
Under the newly formed cluster of Micro-Electronics and Devices, the achievements include demonstration of the functioning of Gallium Nitride high-electron mobility transistor
:twisted: :twisted:

Wonder if we are any closer to mass-manufacturing this puppy, if at all!! :P

Added later: The above is wrt the following quote in Tech Focus'08 around 3 yrs back:
Development of material and device technology of AlGaN/GaN-based HEMT has been started in DRDO for the next generation technology for high frequency, high temperature and high power operation. GaN transistors will meet many strategic needs of DRDO applications in transmitter-receiver modules needed for phased array radars, EW, jammers, data links, communication, missile seeker heads, power transistors, to name a few.
Source: Tech Focus - 2008
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>>Added later: The above is wrt the following quote in Tech Focus'08 around 3 yrs back:

Development of GaAs started somewhere in mid 90s. We successfully developed Silicon wafers in early 90s. You can make a guess when probably the research on GaN might have started.
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Just heard on the R-day parade commentary that the motto for the Brahmos missile regiment is " Swamiye Sharnam Ayyappa"!!!
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yes commanded by Charles pereira
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Would love to catch a vid of Brahmos belting awaywith the unit men shouting out the warcry...what a potent combo!!! :mrgreen:
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Pontoon launch of K-15

DRDO plans K-15 launch
DRDO plans another K-15 missile launch



T.S. Subramanian



From a pontoon 10-20 metres below the sea surface


It will climb 20 km in air before cutting a parabolic path and travelling over 700 km

K-15 will be part of the arsenal of first nuclear-powered submarine Arihant

CHENNAI: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) plans another test-firing of the K-15 missile from a pontoon off the coast of Visakhapatnam.

Developed under the Sagarika project, the K-15 has been test-fired several times from submerged pontoons off Visakhapatnam.

The pontoon, simulating the conditions of a submarine, will be positioned about 10 to 20 metres below the sea surface. A gas-charged booster will erupt into life, driving the two-stage missile to the surface. The missile's first stage will then ignite and it will climb 20 km in the air before cutting a parabolic path and travelling over a range of 700 km.

The missile, which is under production, can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads. It will form part of the lethal arsenal of the country's first nuclear-powered submarine, Arihant, which is undergoing sea trials. India is building two more such submarines.

The DRDO is developing a K-4 underwater-launched missile, which will have a range of 3,000 km. Developmental tests of the missile's gas-booster have taken place from a pontoon.

The sixth launch of the interceptor missile, developed by the DRDO, is scheduled for the first fortnight of February. A modified Prithvi missile, taking off from the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur on the Orissa coast, will act as an “enemy” missile.

The interceptor, to be fired from the Wheeler Island, off Damra on the State's coast, will ambush the “enemy” missile in endo-atmosphere at an altitude of 15 km.

Sources in the DRDO called it “a tricky mission” because the attacker would have a manoeuvrable trajectory and try to dodge the interceptor from homing in on it. Of the five earlier missions, four were successful.
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This is going to be a running list ... whenever IAF gets a new PGM/AAM, this list will be updated:

Some more updates with numbers for AAMs ...

A list of current/planned AAMs/PGMs in IAF's inventory (1980-2010):

AAM
  • 1,000 x R-550 Magic-1 (89kg) (1980) -> Mirage-2000, Jaguar
  • 3,000 x R-60/AA-8 Aphid (43.5kg) (1983) -> MiG-21bis, MiG-27M, MiG-29
  • 200 x Super-530D (275kg) (1984) -> Mirage-2000
  • 4,400 x R-73/AA-11 Archer (105kg) (1987/1995/1996) -> MiG-21 Bison, MiG-29, Su-30MKI
  • 500 x R-550 Magic-2 (89kg) (1988) -> Mirage-2000, Jaguar
  • 636 x R-27/ER/AA-10 Alamo (253kg) (1995/1996) -> MiG-29, Su-30MKI
  • 1,000 x RVV-AE/AA-12 Adder (175/226kg) (1999) -> MiG-21 Bison, MiG-29, Su-30MKI
  • 600 x MICA (112kg) (2009) -> Mirage-2000UPG
  • 150 x Mistral (18.7kg) (2006) -> Dhruv, LCH
  • (?) x Astra (18.7kg) (R&D) -> LCA, Su-30MKI
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Total AAM (in-service/ordered) -> 11,661 ****


LGB
  • ~100**(?) x Matra BGL 1000 (1,000kg bomb) (?) -> Mirage-2000
  • 315 x Paveway II LGB (1,000lb GP bomb) (1993) -> Mirage-2000, Jaguar [any aircraft with Litening pod]
  • 500 x KAB-500Kr (500kg/1,500kg bomb) (1998) -> MiG-21 Bison, Su-30MKI
  • 100+(~1,000*) x Griffin 3 LGB (1,000lb GP bomb) (2005/2009) -> Jaguar, Mirage-2000(?) [any aircraft with Litening pod]
  • 510 x CBU-105 WCMD (1,000lb bomb) (2010) -> Mirage-2000, Jaguar [probably will require some adaption for Russian aircrafts]
  • xx Sudarshan LGB (450kg HSLD bomb or 1,000lb GP) (R&D) -> Jaguar (first tested with) [any aircraft with Litening pod]
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Total LGB (in-service/ordered) -> 2,525 ****

ASM
  • 24*** x Sea Eagle (580kg) (1983) -> Jaguar IM (to be replaced by 24 x Harpoon) [total including IN stock is 160 Sea Eagles]
  • ~50** x AS-30 (520kg) (?) -> Mirage-2000
  • 250 x Kh-23/AS-7 Kerry (287kg) (1985) -> MiG-27ML (retired?)
  • 600 x Kh-25MP/MLT (315kg) (1989/1995) -> MiG-27ML
  • 200 x Kh-31A1/P/AS-17 (600kg) (1997) -> Su-30MKI
  • 100 x Kh-59ME/AS-18 Kazoo (930kg) (1999) -> Su-30MKI
  • 30 x AGM-142A/Popeye-2 Crystal Maze (3,000lb) (2001) -> Mirage-2000
  • 24 x AGM-84 Block II Harpoon (691kg) (2010) -> Jaguar IM
  • 200(?) x Brahmos (2,500kg) (2012/14) -> Su-30MKI [total planned units 1,000 SSM/ASM variants for all services]
  • xx "K" series Air-Launched Article (2,000kg) (R&D) -> Su-30MKI
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Total ASM (in-service/ordered) -> 1,478 ****

Note: Quantities from SIPRI.
* Second order in 2009 for Griffin-3 LGB kits worth tens of millions dollars.
** Quantities not known. Estimates provided in the low side because IAF did not use it in Kargil because of it being expensive (and probably small quantity in service).
*** Although 160 Sea Eagles were ordered, IAF share is probably around 24 missiles as the new order of Harpoon indicates and also as the IAF only has 6 Jaguar IM that are capable of using these missiles.
**** Does not account for numbers used in exercises and combat.
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India self-sufficient in missle technology: Saraswat
http://www.sahilonline.org/english/news ... &nid=10086
Bangalore : India is self-sufficient in missile technology and had the necessary technological wherewithal to produce various classes of missiles for the three Defence forces of the country, Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister V K Saraswat today asserted.

Talking to newspersons here, he said during the current year, DRDO would be testing various new missiles including Agni-5 and few other strategic missiles required for Indian Air Force, Army and the Navy.

Beginning February, these tests would commence, he said adding that the need of the hour was to gear up the Indian industry, both private and public sector, to take up integration of missiles so that the required volumes could be produced.

He said the country could also emerge as an exporter of some of the missile systems such as Akash and Nag.

Asked whether some deals for such exports could be signed immediately, he said the prime responsibility at the moment was to meet the huge demand posed by the Armed Forces. ''We do have requests and we can think about it only after meeting domestic requirements'' he added.
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srai, The old procurement could be affected due to ageing of the motor propellants. So we might reduce their number by some date. Say anything older than 25 years is held in reserve?
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India self-sufficient in missle technology: Saraswat
http://www.sahilonline.org/english/news ... &nid=10086
Saar - with utmost respect saar. I am asking about AAMs and missile seeker heads.
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Air-to-air variant of BrahMos soon: Sivathanu Pillai
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tam ... 140685.ece
An air-to-air variant :?: of the supersonic BrahMos cruise missile would be inducted into the Indian Air Force by 2012, said A. Sivathanu Pillai, Chief Executive Officer of BrahMos Aerospace and chief controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), here on Sunday.

Addressing media persons at the Chennai Science Festival, he said that BrahMos packs in nine times more destructive capacity than any other cruise missile of its class in the world. Much of the missile's blast impact is due to the high velocity that it achieves, which translates into high kinetic energy. Having the capability to travel at three times the speed of sound (Mach 3), it can cover a kilometre in a second. “Work has already commenced on designing a hypersonic missile in collaboration with Russia. It would be able to achieve speeds of Mach 7,” said Mr. Pillai. Delivering a talk on ‘Science in Indian defence' at the science festival, he took the audience, consisting largely of school students, on a tour of India's Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP). He gave a historical account of the reasons behind the development of the ballistic missile programme that consists of a battery of five missiles – Agni, Prithvi, Akash, Trishul and Nag.

Peppered with interesting anecdotes and missile launch footage, Mr.Pillai paused ever so often to ask a question or two – about Newton's third law or about Tipu Sultan's use of rockets in his fight against the British in 1792.

While describing the projectile and re-entry mechanism of a missile, he said that special composite material had to be developed to design the nose cone of a missile as it had to withstand temperatures as high as 3,000 degree Celsius during re-entry into the atmosphere.

“It was a woman scientist called G. Rohini Devi, who developed the carbon-carbon composite which is used in every Indian missile in operation today,” Mr.Pillai said. “Young girls in the audience must become like her,” he said. Designing the carbon-carbon composite material involved massive amounts of mathematical calculation, but India had only one American- built supercomputer in 1986 and it was used for weather prediction. To take forward the nascent missile programme, a supercomputer was indigenously developed within 24 months, said Mr.Pillai.

The parallel processing supercomputer was called Phase+ and was designed by 14 young college graduates
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these kind of shadowy tidbits are being released 20 yrs after the event. I guess in 20 yrs we will really know some of the stuff thats happening today...(and more is happening today vs 20 yrs ago)
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I am pretty sure he was talking about the air-launched Brahmos variant which was (not surprisingly) mis-interpreted by DDM.
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GD, She is from your alma mater RECW(1973 batch Chem Engg). HEMRL director was in Mech Engg batch that year.

The supercomputer is for using the composite. To make it is engineering.
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