Sorry, OT, but just couldn't resist...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju1UwmgkKgI

Anyone notice that the Brahmos looks oddly phallicSingha wrote:and another woman is attempting to climb on and 'ride' it. lol.
That appears to be the joke in that photo. That's a man pretending that it's his di*k and his girlfriend presumably pulling it in.biswas wrote:Anyone notice that the Brahmos looks oddly phallicSingha wrote:and another woman is attempting to climb on and 'ride' it. lol.
Do we really need these missiles so bad that we agreed to pay 200% more?The defence ministry is set to procure 21 AGM-84L Harpoon Block II missiles and its five training varieties of ATM 84L Harpoon Block II from the US government for a total of $ 200 million (approximately Rs 909 crore).
But this price is about 200 per cent more than what Pakistan paid four years ago for the same missiles, the Harpoon Block II. While the average unit cost of the missiles for India is a little less than $ 8 million (approximately Rs 36 crore), Islamabad paid only about $ 3 million (approximately Rs 13 crore) per unit. Pakistan's consignment of 130 units had cost $ 370 million (approximately Rs 1,682 crore).
While the defence ministry refused to comment on the deal in response to a written questionnaire,..
I think it is both.nash wrote:Is it endo-atmospheric or exo-atmospheric or both
By paying the full price we are financing Pakistan procurement of Harpoon at a discount priceKailash wrote:Do we really need these missiles so bad that we agreed to pay 200% more?
platform phyrring logic/integration is not mentioned.. where as sometime back the khans complained that pakis-with the help of chips have modified their block 2 harpoons.India intends to use the HARPOON missiles to modernize its Air Force Anti-Surface Warfare mission capabilities and improve its naval operational flexibility. The missiles will assist the Indian Navy to develop and enhance standardization and operational ability with the United States. India will have no difficulty absorbing these missiles into its armed forces.
Many countries have updated stock Blk I to II so anyone one of them could do it for Pakistan. It is equivalent of buying a new PC with Windows 7 for three times price tag when you simply buy a Xp machine and upgrade it yourself.ramana wrote:The Paki missiles subsidy is being made up in the Indian order. This will always happen as long as India buys stuff from suppliers who also arm TSP. The standard spin will be the small qty drives the unit cost up!
And SaiK is right. There was a news story about pakis using others to upgrade their stock.
These Harpoons are Sea Eagle replacements.
Brahmos is limited to just Su-30MKIs, which leaves us with Harpoon for Jaguar, Naval LCA, P-8s,Tu-142,Mig-29k and Harriers as it replaces the Sea Eagle. Does not make sense to order that many Blk 2 (which pakistan doesn't have) at that price just to dissect them, you can get second hand harpoons at far cheaper price (which China did).Ravi Karumanchiri wrote:So therefore… 24 Harpoons already installed on IAF Jaguars + 21 Harpoons for Indian Navy P-8I Neptune maritime patrol aircraft + 5 Harpoon Training Kits = TOTAL OF 50 Harpoons in the Indian arsenal. IMHO, this is not a significant strength, considering failure rates and usage rates, especially vis a vis other ordinance in the Indian arsenal, most especially the Brahmos which has the same role as a Harpoon, but with much greater targetting capability, speed, range and punch.
This tells me that the purchase might have more to do with dissecting the Harpoons in order to develop and test countermeasures meant to foil a Pakistani Harpoon attack. Any thoughts on this prospect?
There's more where this came from. on phased array radars and such like. Read at your leisure.In the Missiles cluster, user trials for Nag missile
were completed; the tactical missiles, Helina and Astra
underwent a number of successful developmental
launches; the ballistic Control and Navigation Test
(CNT) flight trials of Long Range Surface-to-Air Missile
(LRSAM) were conducted; an active radar seeker,
for AD mission, has been developed and tested for
acceptance; and the first computerised War Gaming
Center at Chandimandir has been established.
Here check this out on how many quantities IAF has for various PGM types:Ravi Karumanchiri wrote:So therefore… 24 Harpoons already installed on IAF Jaguars + 21 Harpoons for Indian Navy P-8I Neptune maritime patrol aircraft + 5 Harpoon Training Kits = TOTAL OF 50 Harpoons in the Indian arsenal. IMHO, this is not a significant strength, considering failure rates and usage rates, especially vis a vis other ordinance in the Indian arsenal, most especially the Brahmos which has the same role as a Harpoon, but with much greater targetting capability, speed, range and punch.
This tells me that the purchase might have more to do with dissecting the Harpoons in order to develop and test countermeasures meant to foil a Pakistani Harpoon attack. Any thoughts on this prospect?
Hmmm ... interesting choice of words there - "demonstration"
Under the newly formed cluster of Micro-Electronics and Devices, the achievements include demonstration of the functioning of Gallium Nitride high-electron mobility transistor
Development of material and device technology of AlGaN/GaN-based HEMT has been started in DRDO for the next generation technology for high frequency, high temperature and high power operation. GaN transistors will meet many strategic needs of DRDO applications in transmitter-receiver modules needed for phased array radars, EW, jammers, data links, communication, missile seeker heads, power transistors, to name a few.
Source: Tech Focus - 2008
DRDO plans another K-15 missile launch
T.S. Subramanian
From a pontoon 10-20 metres below the sea surface
It will climb 20 km in air before cutting a parabolic path and travelling over 700 km
K-15 will be part of the arsenal of first nuclear-powered submarine Arihant
CHENNAI: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) plans another test-firing of the K-15 missile from a pontoon off the coast of Visakhapatnam.
Developed under the Sagarika project, the K-15 has been test-fired several times from submerged pontoons off Visakhapatnam.
The pontoon, simulating the conditions of a submarine, will be positioned about 10 to 20 metres below the sea surface. A gas-charged booster will erupt into life, driving the two-stage missile to the surface. The missile's first stage will then ignite and it will climb 20 km in the air before cutting a parabolic path and travelling over a range of 700 km.
The missile, which is under production, can carry both conventional and nuclear warheads. It will form part of the lethal arsenal of the country's first nuclear-powered submarine, Arihant, which is undergoing sea trials. India is building two more such submarines.
The DRDO is developing a K-4 underwater-launched missile, which will have a range of 3,000 km. Developmental tests of the missile's gas-booster have taken place from a pontoon.
The sixth launch of the interceptor missile, developed by the DRDO, is scheduled for the first fortnight of February. A modified Prithvi missile, taking off from the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur on the Orissa coast, will act as an “enemy” missile.
The interceptor, to be fired from the Wheeler Island, off Damra on the State's coast, will ambush the “enemy” missile in endo-atmosphere at an altitude of 15 km.
Sources in the DRDO called it “a tricky mission” because the attacker would have a manoeuvrable trajectory and try to dodge the interceptor from homing in on it. Of the five earlier missions, four were successful.
Bangalore : India is self-sufficient in missile technology and had the necessary technological wherewithal to produce various classes of missiles for the three Defence forces of the country, Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister V K Saraswat today asserted.
Talking to newspersons here, he said during the current year, DRDO would be testing various new missiles including Agni-5 and few other strategic missiles required for Indian Air Force, Army and the Navy.
Beginning February, these tests would commence, he said adding that the need of the hour was to gear up the Indian industry, both private and public sector, to take up integration of missiles so that the required volumes could be produced.
He said the country could also emerge as an exporter of some of the missile systems such as Akash and Nag.
Asked whether some deals for such exports could be signed immediately, he said the prime responsibility at the moment was to meet the huge demand posed by the Armed Forces. ''We do have requests and we can think about it only after meeting domestic requirements'' he added.
Saar - with utmost respect saar. I am asking about AAMs and missile seeker heads.India self-sufficient in missle technology: Saraswat
http://www.sahilonline.org/english/news ... &nid=10086
An air-to-air variantof the supersonic BrahMos cruise missile would be inducted into the Indian Air Force by 2012, said A. Sivathanu Pillai, Chief Executive Officer of BrahMos Aerospace and chief controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), here on Sunday.
Addressing media persons at the Chennai Science Festival, he said that BrahMos packs in nine times more destructive capacity than any other cruise missile of its class in the world. Much of the missile's blast impact is due to the high velocity that it achieves, which translates into high kinetic energy. Having the capability to travel at three times the speed of sound (Mach 3), it can cover a kilometre in a second. “Work has already commenced on designing a hypersonic missile in collaboration with Russia. It would be able to achieve speeds of Mach 7,” said Mr. Pillai. Delivering a talk on ‘Science in Indian defence' at the science festival, he took the audience, consisting largely of school students, on a tour of India's Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP). He gave a historical account of the reasons behind the development of the ballistic missile programme that consists of a battery of five missiles – Agni, Prithvi, Akash, Trishul and Nag.
Peppered with interesting anecdotes and missile launch footage, Mr.Pillai paused ever so often to ask a question or two – about Newton's third law or about Tipu Sultan's use of rockets in his fight against the British in 1792.
While describing the projectile and re-entry mechanism of a missile, he said that special composite material had to be developed to design the nose cone of a missile as it had to withstand temperatures as high as 3,000 degree Celsius during re-entry into the atmosphere.
“It was a woman scientist called G. Rohini Devi, who developed the carbon-carbon composite which is used in every Indian missile in operation today,” Mr.Pillai said. “Young girls in the audience must become like her,” he said. Designing the carbon-carbon composite material involved massive amounts of mathematical calculation, but India had only one American- built supercomputer in 1986 and it was used for weather prediction. To take forward the nascent missile programme, a supercomputer was indigenously developed within 24 months, said Mr.Pillai.
The parallel processing supercomputer was called Phase+ and was designed by 14 young college graduates