Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

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SSridhar wrote:Salman Taseer's assassination is somehow touted as a watershed event.
This is a fake mfg media based watershed event.
This is to create the image in the west that there are forces of tolerances in Af Pak area to the west.
It is a image creation process
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RajeshA wrote:The Army's part of the deal was to protect RAPE's lives and lifestyle from Army's 'other partners'.
Now the RAPE are crying foul, because Army is not doing its part of the bargain.
The PA is not an immutable organization. It keeps changing with times. In my taxonomy, the significant power-brokers in Pakistan are (in random order): Islamists, PA, elites (whom we identify as RAPEs), and GoTUS. The 'elites' are the original 22 families, now expanded to about 40-odd plus some neo-rich like Salman Taseer. The so-called 'Establishment' is actually a collection of these people. In a matrix like structure, the Islamists can be found among the elites, and the PA; the PA has elites etc. Their cooperation has so far cut across visible lines of division and Islamist sects (though the new Salafi/Wahhabi/Deobandi order that is sweeping across wants to distill the Establishment to its purest form), so long as red lines are not crossed. Each one of them is a parasite on the other (and collectively they are parasites on Pakistan, the 3½ Friends and their allies) and each one has an agenda, but, of course there are common threads connecting all of them as well. Each party thinks that the other three would not be able to ditch it even as it needs the other three. At different times, the power of these disparate parties waxes and wanes within the group and accordingly we, the external observers, make our own judgement. The PA (or sections of it) are under considerable Islamist influence and things like this or the Khwaja affair happen. The 'elites' will recover and cut a new deal. At this point in time, the PA, the elites and the GoTUS are losing ground to the Islamists. It seems that the loss is so great that recovery may be impossible.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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SSridhar,
Yours is an absolutely fascinating post, that captures the essence of Pakistan. Thank you for articulating that so well and so concisely. Just to take it further, let us also understand what is that binds these sometimes competing and sometimes cooperating groups. One important element and what I would call the strongest binding link is India and what they all want to do to India.

From day one, it has been the endeavour, if not the primary endeavour, something right up their in their list of things to do. In addition to the point that you mention about the Islamists gaining ground and Pakistan's descent into implosion being fueled by their ascendancy, we need to recognise that this very descent is going to reinforce their imperative to fulfil their ambitions regarding India.

We all know what that is - if pakistan is going down, so should India. India should be dismembered and their ascent to a great power should be stopped at all costs. That is why I keep repeating bleating here like a broken record, that India cannot afford a policy of drift and believe in the oft repeated twin myths. It is dangerous for India to do so. India must do what is needed to safeguard its national interests and ensure that Pakistan goes to its logical conclusion with minimum collateral damage to India.

We should not in any way aid in the survival of this artificial state because it serves some interests for others. We should not fall prey to alluring half promises and yield to compromise national positions just because it serves others interests in the region or some false notion of kinship of shared history and culture. The Pakistan of today has morphed into something far away from any such shared legacy. Any revival based on those shared values or whatever can only be with more natural entities that will be formed in the post Pakistan period.

As usual a ramble in the wind. Take it for what it is worth.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:What Pakistan did right
BY C. CHRISTINE FAIR
http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... _did_right
Yet, amazingly, only 1,985 people perished while another 2,946 were injured. Given the population density of the affected regions, the poor infrastructure, and the baseline level of poverty, these figures are astonishingly low. In spite of the physical destruction, the fact that fewer than 2,000 Pakistanis died suggests that the Pakistani government did something very well last summer.
Ha! This is lifafa journalism at its best (or worst, depending how you look at it). Christine Fair, who was in the land of the pure to conduct this interview, was there for a strategic purpose. Probably for a special assignment paid for by....you guessed it - the paki lobbyists in DC. A feel good assignment at best to deflect the ever growing criticism in gworld capitals of everything paki. Be prepared for more of such "feel good reports" by Ms. Fair in the next few months (on paki moderation, on paki look-forward economy, on paki-army-doing-a-commendable-job-despite-desperate-odds, on paki-multiculturism...you know the routine). Ms. fair had exposed her bias way back when she concocted her story of having "discovered" the real purpose of Indian consulates in Iran and Afghanistan.
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RajeshA wrote:the Partition of RAPE from Pakistan
If Pa'astan has to survive for the PA to have a country, the partition must be of Pa'astan from the RAPES. Give the RAPES their own sanctuaries within the land of Pa'astan (like San marino or Andorra).
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I recall Johann once pontificating that Pak will implode only if the pakjabi elites break with the idea of pakistan. And that happening continues to remain remote.

Seems almost as if a new set of green elites will replace the current rapish ones as the latter flee into exile. One can only hope the rapes flee with ever larger portions of the country's wealth only.
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Pakistani TV executive behind pro-Muslim US station goes on trial accused of beheading wife
Jurors have started hearing the case of a television executive from Pakistan charged with beheading his wife soon after she filed for divorce.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -wife.html
Opening statements in the second-degree murder trial of Muzzammil Hassan began on Tuesday in Erie County Court in Buffalo.

The 46-year-old Hassan is accused of stabbing and decapitating 37-year-old Aasiya Hassan in 2009 inside the studios of Bridges TV.

The Pakistan-born couple founded the station to counter negative images of Muslims after 9/11.

Hassan's lawyer has said he may use a battered spouse defence. But in divorce papers signed six days before she died, Aasiya Hassan says she was the one who was abused.
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Pakistan Zindabad :mrgreen:

[youtube]4okD6xFeD1k&en&fs=1&start=424s&[/youtube]
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Four Chinese nationals dead in Lasbella mishap http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2011_pg7_6
QUETTA: Four people, including three Chinese technicians, were killed as the dumper on which they were riding slipped from a hilltop and fell into a ravine at Duddar Lead and Zinc metal mining projects in Lasbela district [Balochistan] on Tuesday.

After working their shift, they were returning home when the dumper they were travelling in skid and fell into a ravine. Most of the dead and injured were sitting in the bucket of the dumper.

Three Chinese workers and the driver of the dumper died on the spot while three others, including Chinese technicians, sustained severe injuries with fractured bones. All the injured people were immediately shifted to the Aga Khan University Teaching Hospital in Karachi for treatment. staff report
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Raghavendra wrote:Pakistan Zindabad :mrgreen:

[youtube]4okD6xFeD1k&en&fs=1&start=424s&[/youtube]
@2:20

"Kaun sahab aur kaha se bol rahe hain?"
"Muh se bol raha hun"

Did I hear it right? :eek: :rotfl:

Pakistan Paindabutt indeed!
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jagga wrote:Hamid Gul:India has designs to destabilise Pakistan
And now India has created another organisation which is called RAMA. It may be news to you that very soon this intelligence agency -- of course, they have decided to keep it covert -- but it is Research and Analysis Milli Afghanistan. That's the name. The Indians have helped create this organisation, and its job is mainly to destabilise Pakistan."
Hope that RAMA thing is true! I also hope there is Krishna, Shiva etc etc
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jagga wrote:Hamid Gul:India has designs to destabilise Pakistan
And now India has created another organisation which is called RAMA. It may be news to you that very soon this intelligence agency -- of course, they have decided to keep it covert -- but it is Research and Analysis Milli Afghanistan. That's the name. The Indians have helped create this organisation, and its job is mainly to destabilise Pakistan."

Is he sure its not B(a)RFMA?
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Gosh - Packee soldiers look so black like Indians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V3brYAN130
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Anujan wrote:
Reviewing security: Proposal seeks US guards for president

a larger proposal is also under consideration by the government to hire the services of foreign security guards for a number of VVIPs including the prime minister, provincial governors, chief ministers, and a few federal ministers, the source told The Express Tribune requesting anonymity.
Zardari will be as safe as the Nukes finally :wink: :mrgreen:
Why TSPA generals are not included in this, especially in the back drop of attacks on Musharraf and killing of couple of brigadiers???

Who will protect the common man?

It is possible in Paquistan only... AoA onleee
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and then there is the Northern Areas cell of RAMA, called RAMANA
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8) 8)

I wonder if we need thread in GDF on the "Idea of Whitenss in Indian thinking!"
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vic wrote: Hope that RAMA thing is true! I also hope there is Krishna, Shiva etc etc
Damnit! They caught me :(( :(( :(( I should write my confession statement and send it to MMS and Hamid Gul
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Raghavendra wrote:Pakistan Zindabad :mrgreen:

@2:20

"Kaun sahab aur kaha se bol rahe hain?"
"Muh se bol raha hun"

Did I hear it right?

Pakistan Paindabutt indeed!
The guy with the glasses has an interesting accent.
When he says Hindu in Urdu, its sounds normal, but when he says Hindu in English, he twists it and tries to say it in an American accent. I don't understand why they hate U.S so much, but still try to copy their accent. :roll:
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Chandragupta wrote: Pakistan Zindabad :mrgreen:

@2:20

"Kaun sahab aur kaha se bol rahe hain?"
"Muh se bol raha hun"

Did I hear it right? :eek: :rotfl:

Pakistan Paindabutt indeed!


Look at this. This paki has been to India and talks about Indian Muslims.
They want to take care of Indian muslims as of they also rule the entire world.
They want to censor what the Indian muslims are watching. He has done analysis
of the what the Indian muslims want to watch - muslims living in the Hindu country
should help Pakistan and muslims.

There is propaganda that Indian muslims hate the Pak muslims
He says that Indian muslims will help the Pak muslims.


Nobody talks about Pakistani people killing Indians. This is considered normal.

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vic wrote:
jagga wrote:Hamid Gul:India has designs to destabilise Pakistan
Hope that RAMA thing is true! I also hope there is Krishna, Shiva etc etc
For Poakland , It is called HaRAMA.
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Does the Youtube video posted play by itself or has my PC been infected with PAwki-Flu?
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Those youtube videos should play by itself. Btw, what's with the travesty that seems to be embedded in Paki genes? In both the videos there's atleast one person twisting every muscle inside his mouth to fake his accent!
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Ambar wrote:Those youtube videos should play by itself. Btw, what's with the travesty that seems to be embedded in Paki genes? In both the videos there's atleast one person twisting every muscle inside his mouth to fake his accent!
Twisting every muscle inside the mouth is Pakistaniat Khaasiat. This is what has given them the special Unclewala accent. They have been practicing mouthful from the time of DjinnahBai.
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US mulls visa ban on several Pakistanis
journalists Meher Bokhari, Ansar Abbasi, Majeed Nizami, Irfan Siddiqui and Mir Shakilur Rehman, MNAs Shaikh Waqas Akram and Maulana Fazlur Rehman, lawyer Ashraf Gujjar, and religious leaders Sahibzada Fazal Kareem, Syed Munnawar Hassan, Asadullah Bhutto, Maulana Shah Turabul Haq Qadri, Muhammad Ahmed Ludhianvi, Syed Mazhar Saeed Kazmi, Allama Syed Riaz Hussain Shah, Allama Zamir Sajid, Haneef Tayyab, Shahid Ghauri, Farid Paracha, Mufti Naeem of Jamia Binoria, Maulana Asad Thanvi, Maulana Shabbir, Pir Khalid Sultan, Pir Ghulam Siddiq Naqshbandi, Allama Syed Khizr Hussain Shah, Alhaj Amjad Chishti, Allama Ghulam Sarwar Hazarvi, Allama Syed Shamsuddin Bokhari, Pir Syed Ashiq Ali Shah Jilani, Mufti Muhammad Iqbal Chishti, Allama Fazal Jamil Rizvi, Agha Muhammad Ibrahim Naqshbandi Mujaddidi, Maulana Muhammad Riaz Qadri, Maulana Gulzar Naeemi, Allama Syed Ghulam Yaseen Shah, Abul Khair Muhammad Zubair, and all leaders of the Tahaffuz-e-Namoos-e-Risalat Mahaz might face the proposed ban
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I dont see why these Utube videos are posted instead of posting a link to them. Every time I come to this page I have to listen to them and turn them off. They are behaving like a virus.

Admins: Please do something about them.
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^^Second that. They are really irritating. At least remove the "autoplay=1" from the video link.
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Done. Nachiket thanks didn't know that trick.

Raghavendra don't do that again.

Thanks,
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Acharya wrote:
I think there's no need to worry and instead stock up on the popcorn and beer and watch this soap unfurling. The joker sitting on the left with a handle Amar Hussein or such, talks about protecting Pakistani and Muslim culture in English with an American accent, using phrases like: "I know what these guys do..." etc. The fukker can't even talk in Urdu and probably doesn't live in Pakistan or if he does he's a uber Rape junior who goes to or went to the American school which Taseer's daughter went (remember those scantily clad fotos?). These jokers also probably go to parties where they drink and party with female flesh on ample display.

And then they come on TV and say Indian Muslims watch more TV soaps than Hindus because the Hindus are more studious and so watch less TV than the Muslims! I'm sure Indian Muslims will welcome him as a new Madhi or some such.

I wonder if we sometimes worry too much!

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saip wrote:I dont see why these Utube videos are posted instead of posting a link to them. Every time I come to this page I have to listen to them and turn them off. They are behaving like a virus.

Admins: Please do something about them.
That's strange. I use firefox and I never have autoplay, I have to click on the vid to get it to play (of course I like it that way). Is it a browser setting problem?
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amit wrote:
saip wrote:I dont see why these Utube videos are posted instead of posting a link to them. Every time I come to this page I have to listen to them and turn them off. They are behaving like a virus.

Admins: Please do something about them.
That's strange. I use firefox and I never have autoplay, I have to click on the vid to get it to play (of course I like it that way). Is it a browser setting problem?

Yes, even in IE , it doesnt autoplay for me
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Firefox rules - It is the best browser that there is.

What a ROFL set of videos these were! Rape Pakstanis have their country sinking into the islamist economically bankrupt cesspool, and are playing holier-than-thou on TV.

Really, I agree! I think we worry too much about them.
:rotfl:
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NW Pakistan institutes Sharia law

The provincial government of Pakistan has instituted Sharia law in the northern Malakand division of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and set up Dar-ul-Qaza (Sharia appellate court) in Swat.
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Gas pipeline blows off in Shikarpur
SHIKARPUR: A gas pipeline routing from Sui to Punjab went off with a loud bang here near Tangwani in Shikarpur on Wednesday morning.

Police put security cordon around the affected site.

The bang was so powerful that people woke up in panic. The gas emission in huge quantity from the pipeline is still underway. SAMAA
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Amit et al, I had to edit the link and delete the code as suggested by nachiket. Now it doesn't play any more.
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shravan wrote:NW Pakistan institutes Sharia law

The provincial government of Pakistan has instituted Sharia law in the northern Malakand division of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and set up Dar-ul-Qaza (Sharia appellate court) in Swat.
Good. Other provincial governments should become pious follow suit.
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AoA,
These Videos are from a Ayan TV, based in Chicago. Similar to the one called Bridges TV based out of Buffalo, NY, Whose owner stabbed and beheaded his wife for asking for a divorce. That TV paki was also engaged in making similar programs to uh, 'save the pakstanis from the evil Indian influence'.

As expected, the expatriate pakstanis are not exactly making themselves known in the educational field. They indulge themselves in other fields - and apparently not too successfully too.
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Pak food imports up by 75pc
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... up-by-75pc
IMRAN ALI KUNDI
ISLAMABAD - Despite being an agricultural country, Pakistan’s food imports had increased by over 75 percent during the first half (July-December) of the current financial year against the same period previous year.
The country had imported foodstuff worth of $2.708 billion in the first half of the ongoing fiscal year, as compareD to $1.547 billion in the same period of 2009-10, which reflects an increase of 75.03 percent.
According to the data released by the Federal Bureau of Statistics, the pulses imports surged by 98.92 percent during July-December 2010-11 against same period of 2009-10, sugar imports went up by 368 percent, palm oil, 60.60 percent, soyabean oil, 680.75 percent, species, 52.41 percent, tea, 26.41 percent and dry fruits 13.25 percent.
Meanwhile, food imports haVE registered an increase of over 121 percent only in December 2010 against the same month of 2009. The economic experts believed that the main reason behind the huge food imports is short run disruption to the supply chain in agriculture sector post floods situation.
Meanwhile, the import of petroleum products also went up by over 17 percent during the first half of the current financial year, as the country imported products worth of $5.467 billion in July-December 2010-11 against $4.641 billion of July-December 2009-10. Machinery group’s imports enhanced by 1.76 percent, transport group’s imports up by 3.82 percent, textile group’s imports 67.70 percent during July-December 2010-11 against July-December 2009-10.
On the other hand, the country’s textile exports had increased by 25.79 percent during the first half of present fiscal year, as it exported textiles goods worth of $6.284 billion against $4.996 billion in the same period last year. In textiles groups, raw cotton exports surged by 13.91 percent, cotton yarn, 26.49 percent, cotton cloth, 30.63 percent, yarn, 43.11 percent knitwear, 24.07 percent, bed wear, 16.01 percent, towels, 7.23 percent and readymade garments 35 percent in July-December period.
Meanwhile, food exports increased by 6.16 percent during July-December 2010-11 against the same period last year. The rice’s export enhanced by 7.56 percent, fish, 5.83 percent, fruits, 35.25 percent, meat, 54.56 percent and tobacco by 73 percent in the period under review.
The exports of cement decreased by 11.55 percent, and handicrafts 80.74 percent.
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Prem wrote:Pak food imports up by 75pc
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... up-by-75pc
IMRAN ALI KUNDI
Err,
Where do BRFites think are the pulses, sugar, food items being imported into pakistan from?

More power to Indian farmers and indian exporters!

:lol:
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