Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 22 Jan 2011 19:00

Nadeem F Paracha;

Isn’t it more appropriate to replace the crescent on the Pakistani flag with a banana?”

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 22 Jan 2011 19:01

megalomaniac mushy

Pervez Musharraf explains why Pakistan needs him

Has it got worse since you left?

Certainly, by 200 per cent. In two years, the economy has gone down, as well as people's welfare. Essential items for the poor are four times more expensive. So there is poverty, jobs are less, factories have closed.

Do you accept any responsibility for these calamitous times?
No. Every socio-economic indicator was positive in 2008. On the law and order side, yes, there was a problem, but Taliban extremism was not as bad.

One critic has said: “Mr. Musharraf is dangerously prone to self-delusion.” Is he right?

Well, I don't believe only in dreaming. At a later stage, I will prove that statement wrong.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 22 Jan 2011 19:01

regarding veena malik,

actually, it is apparently it is the norm for people like veena malik, who are considered socially outcastes, seed change or 'liberalism'. there is a professor in the US (thadeus russell?), who has argued that many of the progressive, liberal values in the US such as women's rights, racial desegregation etc., were seeded by prostitutes, thieves and other no-do gooders etc... but the credit ofcourse has to be given to nice andproper white folks of great power so, that part is not highlighted and that professor was denied tenure too.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 22 Jan 2011 19:08

Today, it is more important than ever that the West act wisely and help Pakistanis regain Jinnah's vision. The country needs financial and political help to keep democracy on track and rescue it from an economic meltdown...There is too much at stake if the country fails.

Rashid saheb, on your death bed also you will be begging? Is the world going to come down if Pakistan fails? Americans will ship the nukes to Nevada.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 22 Jan 2011 20:54

Musharaff wrote:Certainly, by 200 per cent.

True BRFites will realize that even Mushy is accepting that things are only half as bad as what he expected it to be...

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 23 Jan 2011 01:37

Raghavendra wrote: Ahmed Rashid’s lament for a troubled Pakistan
Today, it is more important than ever that the West act wisely and help Pakistanis regain Jinnah's vision. The country needs financial and political help to keep democracy on track and rescue it from an economic meltdown...There is too much at stake if the country fails.
pakistani liberal elites never miss a chance to demand aid from kufr west. liberals in pakistan are the real banias

What is so sacrosanct about TSP that so much is at stake and should it fail?

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 23 Jan 2011 02:43

Did i hear Veena Mallik say "Sati Savithri" in part 3? Guess no amount of "we are arabs only" injection can wipe the darn deeply seated yindoo past..

archan · Post by **archan** » 23 Jan 2011 02:52

Ambar wrote:Did i hear Veena Mallik say "Sati Savithri" in part 3? Guess no amount of "we are arabs only" injection can wipe the darn deeply seated yindoo past..

Kafir bollywood to blame.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 23 Jan 2011 03:08

I apologize if this is well known, but i just came across this on Nobel Laureate Abdus Salam's wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdus_Salam#Death

Salam was buried in the graveyard Bahishti Maqbara in Rabwah next to his parents' graves. The epitaph on his tomb initially read "First Muslim Nobel Laureate" but, because of Salam's adherence to the Ahmadiyya Muslim sect, the word "Muslim" was later erased on the orders of a local magistrate, leaving the nonsensical "First Nobel Laureate".[11]

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 23 Jan 2011 03:32

Why don't ahmediyas and Shias quit Islam and brace Christ?
Anyways, they are not counted as muslims in Pakistan.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 23 Jan 2011 03:47

Veena Malik will be RIP soon, not because of her antics in India but because she knows too much about Dawood Bhai's match fixing.
Having said that, Veena Malik is Benis material and should be discussed there only

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 23 Jan 2011 03:47

Qadri, who happily confessed to murdering the politician he was assigned to protect, has little chance of being convicted.

"There is no justice in our country for the common man, but Qadri's act against a blasphemer has made all Muslims feel stronger," a shopkeeper in Rawalpindi told me. "They can punish him, but what will they do with a million Qadris who have been born now?"

"Madam, could you please pick up the papers?" he finally said. "The name of our prophet is on the front page, and it must not be on the ground."

I complied, and we spoke cordially about our respective religions. But when I asked about Taseer's murder, his tone changed. "They say he blasphemed against our prophet," the young man said solemnly. "If this is true, then it would be my duty as a Muslim to kill him, too."

Pamela Constable, a Washington Post foreign correspondent, is the author of the forthcoming "Playing With Fire: Why Pakistan's Democracy Is Losing Ground to Islamic Extremists."

I was wondering the other day whatever happened to the Pamela Constable, Christina Amanapour, Robin Raphael, Christopher Lamb... the die hard Paki lovers and anti-Indian brigade of 90s. I wonder if they blame the crumbling of Paki state still on india ..

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 23 Jan 2011 03:49

Chinmayanand wrote:Why don't ahmediyas and Shias quit Islam and brace Christ?
Anyways, they are not counted as muslims in Pakistan.

Because they believe that they are pure muslims.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 23 Jan 2011 03:52

Mahdi ji, which Muslim in Pakistan thinks of himself as impure?
Secondly, who decides the level of purity and on what basis?

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 23 Jan 2011 03:54

Pakistan EC wants a peek into EVMs

wonder what paqis will do with it.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 23 Jan 2011 04:06

Mahendra wrote:Because they believe that they are pure muslims.

True. Shia majority Iran - is no better in treating its own minorities and those who they consider are 'lesser muslims' or 'not really muslims'..well maybe better than pakistan..but then again that's not really saying much.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 23 Jan 2011 04:11

Chinmayanand wrote:Mahdi ji, which Muslim in Pakistan thinks of himself as impure?
Secondly, who decides the level of purity and on what basis?

Exactly my point, which pure muslim would think of converting to Christianity which automatically qualifies that person for mob administered, government sanctioned, HoKo upheld 72.
I wish I could be 100% sure on how the level of purity is decided but I am sure the following factors are instrumental

low level of common sense, Rapist Arab ancestors, Knowledge of HoKo, ability to shout down the sane voices, long beard with kalima reciting lice, and high level of offensive body odour.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 23 Jan 2011 06:35

OT:Beg the mod's forbearance, but I would like to request the more articulate BRFites (SS, Doktor sahab, Rajesh A and others too numerous to list) to occasionally consider posting insightful comments on the af-pak section of the forum http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?board=4.0

I have known the organizer of the forum for over a decade, who is well versed with pakiness, but more importantly, he teaches martial arts to US military forces including those in Af-Pak region. Its an American forum, but they are in general sympathetic to India. By advancing the BRF viewpoint, on that forum, we can get our message across right to the front lines and to military types. The board serves mostly as a depositary of news items, but those get read by the right people. This is a wonderful chance to educate them about paki perfidy.

Perhaps Shiv Sahab could post a link to his e-book for a start...or if I have his permission I could do so (pl. provide link).

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 23 Jan 2011 06:45

Guddu wrote:
Perhaps Shiv Sahab could post a link to his e-book for a start...or if I have his permission I could do so (pl. provide link).

By all means post the link there, but I would also point out that it was primarily written for Indians to get a better grasp of Pakistan. The link is below. The book is released for free and unrestricted redistribution on a copyleft licence.

www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Jan 2011 07:55

The blowback of the years of fomenting Islamic Terrorism as State policy in India, Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is that the first 10 months of 2010 has resulted in 4,678 dead in that country:

Violence killed 4,678 last year in Pakistan

The referenced report “ Trail of Tragedy (A Chronology of Violence in Pakistan 2010)” by the NGO “Strengthening Participatory Organisation” which has been cited as the source of the information is available here:

CLICKY

Demonstrations of the IEDology of Pakistan including the IED Mubarak variant accounts for 1,801 while prerignations of the National Bird of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan accounts for 544.

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Jan 2011 08:35

Declan Walsh of the UK’s Observer / Guradian in an article about Sherry Rehman recounts this story of actress Veena Malik giving a Mohammadden Cleric a tongue lashing on a television show in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the Clerical penchant for raping little boys learning the scriptures

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Sherry Rehman, Pakistan's defiant prisoner of intolerance, vows to stay put

Declan Walsh in Karachi
The Observer, Sunday 23 January 2011 ………………..

Amid the gloom there is some hope, from unlikely quarters. On a popular talk show last Friday night Veena Malik, an actress who faced conservative censure for appearing on the Indian version of Big Brother, gave an unforgettable tongue-lashing to a cleric who had been criticising her. "You are attacking me because I am a soft target," she railed into the camera, wagging her finger.

"But there's a lot more you can fix in the name of Islam… What about those mullahs who rape the same boys that they teach in mosques?" As the mullah replied, she started to barrack him again.

The crack about the penchant of Mohammadden Cleric’s raping little boys sent to learn scripture was apparently made somewhere in this video clip:

Youtube

How long I wonder before the Clerics declare Veena Mailk a Wajib ul Qatal for maligning Mohammaddenism with that crack?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 23 Jan 2011 09:03

A fine spirited woman. She can tickle this kafir pickle anytime.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Jan 2011 09:11

Err, A few observations I have to bring to the fore about the entire Veena Malik saga. There are other things that are hinted at in that video and in general about her appearence in Bigg Boss.
1. Veena Malik makes repeated references to her belonging to and representing the 'Entertainment Industry' in Pakistan. Now we all know that in the backward society that Pakistan is, women of a certain character who indulge in one of the oldest professions known to mankind are said to belong to that industry. Now these women, their families are ostracized in that society, they are restricted to certain localities (like Heera Mandi in Lahore - Noor Jahan was one particularly famous resident who moved out to more prestigious locales).

The term 'Entertainment Industry' in Pakistan means mujra women, who indulge in prostitution on the side.

Naturally the social falsehood that exists in Pakistan, the men visit heera mandi and the hookers in the darkness of the night, but come daylight and they are pure, kuran following, who will kill people for things such as love marriages, women who don't wear the hijab properly etc.

2. Veena Malik makes repeated references to that mullah to go on the internet and see what the entertainment industry is like there. I think she must be referring to the numerous youtube mujra videos that come out of pakistan. There are more R-rated mujra videos that are available on certain websites which give a more complete picture of the 'real' mujra that goes on in Pakistan.

3. The common refrain in India on the entire veena malik episode is this:
People are of the opinion that whatever she did, was to try and get married to some Indian guy (in this case Ashmit Patel on bigg boss) and move to India.

Things must be desperate in Pakistan with the rich feudals having less disposable incomes to support mistresses there. As it is people belong to the arts and entertainment industry, singers, etc have a sense of suffocation in the islamized society there and coming to India is like a breath of fresh air to them. The liberalism that exists here, the free speech and the freedom of expression and action must be very liberating to the poor pakistanis.

We already know of Adnan Sami, who even lobbied with L K Advani when he was home minister for Indian citizenship. The latest in the Adnan Sami saga was that he is still a Pakistani citizen, who is on a temporary visa in India, and the investments in properties in Mumbai that he had made were recently confiscated by the ED. There must be numerous lesser known cases where Pakistanis desperately want to come and live in India to escape the islamized society there.

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Jan 2011 10:45

Veena Malik is becoming quite the poster girl of the miniscule “liberal” element of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which is restricted to the editorial pages of the English language press,.

RAPEtte Sana Saleem, with accompanying photograph showing herself with head draped Mohammadden style in a headscarf presumably to ward off the undefendable attack in Pakistan of being accused of being un-Mohammadden, writing in Dawn. Do note comments to the article as well:

The fatwa factory

Oh! the horror of it all

. The Rich Anglophone Pakistani Elite have so fallen that now the poster girl for “liberalism” in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has devolved to Veena Malik who is reputed to have distinctly “down market” roots in Lahore’s Red Light area of Heera Mandi

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Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Jan 2011 10:48

Buzz on twitter saying COl. Imam is dead. Confirmation awaited.

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Jan 2011 10:52

X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.

With the unrelenting persecution that is the fate of the “Dhimmi” in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, it is inevitable that “Kaafir” Christians lacking in moral fibre would be intimidated into converting to the Mohammadden religion:

Some Christians in Pakistan convert fear into safety

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Jan 2011 10:57

^^I'd rather all minorities in pak convert to some form of islam - preferably sunni - for their own and their children's well-being. When there are no obvious 'non-muslim' minorities left in Pak, then the searing fire of purification (putridfication?) will turn within the various streams of the one true faith. Already with ahmedis and now shias, we are seeing the beginnings of a sectarian un-civil war. The world will benefit to see the same speeded up only.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 23 Jan 2011 11:04

Lets go easy on all these 'heera mandi' references for Veena Malik. Not sure how much of that is true as opposed to being the typical Paki male attitude of labeling 'liberal' women as sluts....

Going by the TV program where she defends herself against the mullah and anchor - her performance was frankly extremely spunky and in many ways - classy !

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Jan 2011 11:10

^^^ Stop raining on my party of enjoying the discomfiture of the RAPE class

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arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Jan 2011 11:11

The National Bird of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has been active in 2011. I make this its 7th peregrination this year:

US drone strike 'kills four militants in Pakistan'

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 23 Jan 2011 11:14

Miranshah: Former ISI official Ameer Sultan alias Colonel Imam killed in Miranshah

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 23 Jan 2011 11:22

Mahendra wrote:
Chinmayanand wrote:Mahdi ji, which Muslim in Pakistan thinks of himself as impure?
Secondly, who decides the level of purity and on what basis?
Exactly my point, which pure muslim would think of converting to Christianity which automatically qualifies that person for mob administered, government sanctioned, HoKo upheld 72.
I wish I could be 100% sure on how the level of purity is decided but I am sure the following factors are instrumental

low level of common sense, Rapist Arab ancestors, Knowledge of HoKo, ability to shout down the sane voices, long beard with kalima reciting lice, and high level of offensive body odour.

For a Muslim to leave Islam would be considered apostasy, punishable by death.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Jan 2011 11:46

shravan wrote:Miranshah: Former ISI official Ameer Sultan alias Colonel Imam killed in Miranshah

Lets hope in pure islamist way of doing halal.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 23 Jan 2011 11:53

shravan wrote:Miranshah: Former ISI official Ameer Sultan alias Colonel Imam killed in Miranshah

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/23/former-i ... istan.html

According to DawnNews sources, the group responsible for his death refuse to release his body to his family.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Jan 2011 12:16

Err,
The minorities in Pakistan may convert to the Mohammaden religion, but there is a catch here.

The pure biradhers make a clear distinction between recent converts and original converts. Then there is distinction made between recent converts from Christianity, Hinduism etc, because the Pakistanis consider them to be of a lower social caste.

One will occasionally hear things such as mohammadens preventing minorities from using the same water from the well that they use (Aasia Bibi is one such prominent case), people washing their feet or clothes in rivers which are headed for mosques downstream, because of hidden caste related practices.

Even within their respective sects, mohammadens within pakistan get married according to their respective sub-castes as denoted by their surnames. Islam was supposed to be the great equalizer, where the hard drive was supposed to have been formatted and arab worship was supposed to be the new operating system. But Pakis being pakis twisted the religion and retained their caste politics, on which they laid the template of Islam.

The result is that Pakistanis are an embarrassment to Islam. All the murder and mayhem they do today is in the name of Islam. Today a muslim goes into a mosque to throw grenades, fire his Kalashnikov or blow up his suicide vest on fellow muslims - the irony is that both the murderer and the victim are dying in the name of the same god and religion.

Pakistan is doomed. There will be an islamic revolution in that country and minorities will be killed as sport in between convulsions of killing different islamic sects. I remember MJ Akhbar's article where he says, what will India do if 1 million refugees turn up on India's borders? I am afraid that that day might arrive.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 23 Jan 2011 12:39

chaanakya wrote:
shravan wrote:Miranshah: Former ISI official Ameer Sultan alias Colonel Imam killed in Miranshah
http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/23/former-i ... istan.html

According to DawnNews sources, the group responsible for his death refuse to release his body to his family.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Jan 2011 13:19

^^^
AoA to that!
The snake killed by the other snakes that he raised.

Typical and characteristic of Pakistan.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Jan 2011 13:41

vijayk wrote:
"Madam, could you please pick up the papers?" he finally said. "The name of our prophet is on the front page, and it must not be on the ground."

I complied, and we spoke cordially about our respective religions. But when I asked about Taseer's murder, his tone changed. "They say he blasphemed against our prophet," the young man said solemnly. "If this is true, then it would be my duty as a Muslim to kill him, too."

Pamela Constable

I was wondering the other day whatever happened to the Pamela Constable, Christina Amanapour, Robin Raphael, Christopher Lamb... the die hard Paki lovers and anti-Indian brigade of 90s. I wonder if they blame the crumbling of Paki state still on india ..

Two observations:
1. The reason why these western WKK wimmen's heart cries out to Pakistan is because they are wimmen. The motherly instinct kicks in because the pakis cry in front of them. The haramis, ever the ready to cry - rudaalis, cry in front of the westerners that big bad india did this and that to us.

"Those dirty hindoooz across the border are scheming aggressive murderers", they say, "And look at us poor abduls and ayeshas, straight out of Arabian Nights".

That's it and the gori wimmen and their 'save the world' zeal does the rest. These wimmen are 'protecting' the weak from the oppressor in their minds. Little do they know that the poor lamb , the fluffy puppy, who was shedding tears a few moments ago, is actually a man-eating wolf.

2. Pamela Constable is lucky.

The flight had to land without the abdul thinking of doing what Qadri did. If the abdul had any grey matter in his head, the first thought that would have occurred to him would have been to do in the air what Qadri could only manage on terra firma.

AoA to that.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Jan 2011 14:02

Star News, that great news channel with sky high TRPs, which doesn't have any news of substance these days, has gotten hold of the video of Veena Malik's interaction with the poor Maulana.

They are playing that clip where Miss Malik is on rapid-fire mode against the hapless Maulana. And yes, this clip also has that part about the maulanas doing bad bad things to their wards in the madarsas.
She ends that session with the line "Pakistan aur wajahon se badnaam hai, veena malik ki wajah se nahi" {Pakistan has earned a bad name because of the things I've enumerated, not because of Veena Malik}

Pakistan is getting a decent exposure right in the living rooms of ordinary Indians. All dirty linen being washed in full public glare.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Jan 2011 15:06

Gagan wrote:Pakistan is doomed. There will be an islamic revolution in that country and minorities will be killed as sport in between convulsions of killing different islamic sects. I remember MJ Akhbar's article where he says, what will India do if 1 million refugees turn up on India's borders? I am afraid that that day might arrive.

There needs to be a UNSC Resolution which declares certain enclaves within Pakistan where minorities may be in a higher concentration as UN protected safe areas, and allows other countries to deploy their militaries to secure these enclaves within Pakistan.

Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, and Ahmediyas, all non-Muslim minorities may apply to have an area designated as a safe area by the UN.

In the mean time, the world should highlight the human rights and minority rights abuses in Pakistan. The case of Aasia Bibi could act as a lightening rod!

This is just one solution!