Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Feb 2011 00:19

^^^ Wrong thread.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 02 Feb 2011 02:05

Guys enough on "Eunuchs". Get over with it. Not good to joke on physical imperfections.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 02 Feb 2011 02:17

ok new one now U.K. immigration officer fired after putting wife's name on terror watch list

how to get rid of nagging wife

An immigration officer upset with his wife placed her on a terrorist watch list - so she couldn't get home from Pakistan

Her name on the list was “not conducive to the public good.”

When she called her husband to ask his help with the matter he ¬promised to look into it - but left her stuck in Pakistan for three years \

The incident was realized after the officer was vetted after he went for a promotion that required him to have a higher level of security clearance. Superiors realized his wife was on a watch list and when questioned he confessed what he had done and was subsequently fired for gross misconduct.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 02 Feb 2011 02:20

how many times will gazi fauj relocate from swat
Pakistan Army begins to relocate from Swat

Islamabad, Feb 1 (IANS) Thousands of Pakistani Army soldiers have begun to shift out from Swat Valley and turn over security to the law-enforcement agencies in the area that was once a Taliban stronghold, officials said.

The officials told the daily Dawn that the partial withdrawal is in line with the military`s counter-insurgency strategy to clear, hold and transfer.

Joint patrolling by the army and the police was continuing in some parts, although overall, the police were able to conduct independent patrols throughout the Malakand region, a senior police official was quoted as saying.

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 02 Feb 2011 02:26

^^^
Isn't this Paki behaviour: putting wife on list, which only hurt himself eventually when the time for promotion came up. Even if he could be excused of thinking that he would not be caught, should he not know that his career is screwed if his wife in the atank list?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 02 Feb 2011 02:46

They are Pakis. They dont think that long term. Otherwise which country will prop up Islamic fundamentalist groups in their own country to be used on your neighbors with out realizing that they will bite you back in the future.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 Feb 2011 04:25

Pictures of the Davis car in the shootout:

front windshield holes: available here: http://pakistanpal.livejournal.com/987922.html

rear windshield completely broken: available here:
http://www.thetrueperspective.com/2011/ ... -guns.html

Davis was the sole occupant of the car.

Attempt to make sense of all these facts. E.g., perhaps Davis was chased and shot at causing the front windshield holes?, he fires randomly back, maybe a bullet strikes one of the motorcyclists; they turn to retreat (rather than overtake). Davis stops the car and continues to shoot, nailing them in the back?

PS: Najam Sethi
http://cafepyala.blogspot.com/2011/02/c ... alism.html

...Sethi cited his own information that the two men killed by Davis were indeed brandishing weapons, that they were actually shot in the chest or on the side (contrary to news reports of their being shot in the back)

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Feb 2011 04:47

If Paki have any % of H&D left, they should refuse American cash aid till US waive Davis's diplomatic immunity. If Poaks persist upon putting this innocent man on trial then US special froces will have to snatch their man from Poak court in broad day light.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 02 Feb 2011 05:20

Najam Sethi: Aapas Ki Baat
Poignant discussion on the Davis case and his take on it. Watch the whole thing, if you can. Sethi discloses what pakistaniyat is all about.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 Feb 2011 06:15

Najam Sethi has joined the Geo news network wef from I thnk 6th or 11th Jan this year.

So I guess he will be appearing in this 'Aapas ki baat' program instead of the 'tonight with najam sethi' on duniya tv.

saip · Post by **saip** » 02 Feb 2011 06:40

Cutting off the nose…

What I myself saw on the very day of the shooting, about two hours after the event, was the interview of a young man off the street, conducted by a loud and vociferous channel. When asked what he had seen the man said: “pistol” (“The two motorcyclists drew their pistols to rob the foreigner [using the near-pejorative term , or Whitey] who shot them dead”). This was repeated twice in a period of 30 or so minutes and then taken off air. This is what I saw and heard myself. It is pertinent to note that that young man has not been seen, nor heard from, again. Neither has any newspaper quoted what he said on record.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/01/cutting- ... -nose.html

What game are pakis playing? Are they hiding the witnesses to protect their H&D? It took them days to admit Kasab as their citizen.
May be those goons were really ISI goons and David simply proved to be quicker on the draw.

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Feb 2011 07:04

arun wrote:In the “Enligtened Moderate” Islamic Republic of Pakistan a doctor is charged with blasphemy for throwing in the waste basket a visiting card that had the name Mohammad printed on it.

The doctor of course belongs to the minority and by virtue of that fact the “less pure” Ismaili sect of Islam:

Pakistan arrests doctor for blasphemy: police

(AFP) – 3 hours ago

KARACHI — A doctor has been arrested for insulting the Prophet Mohammed in Pakistan, police said on Sunday, in a second high profile case throwing the spotlight on the country's controversial anti-blasphemy laws.

Naushad Valiyani was detained on Friday following a complaint by a medical representative who visited the doctor in the city of Hyderabad.

"The arrest was made after the complainant told the police that Valiyani threw his business card, which had his full name, Muhammad Faizan, in a dustbin during a visit to his clinic," regional police chief Mushtaq Shah told AFP.

"Faizan accused Valiyani of committing blasphemy and asked police to register a case against the doctor."

Shah said the issue had been resolved after Valiyani, a member of Pakistan's Ismaili community, an offshoot of Shiite Islam, apologised but local religious leaders intervened and pressed for action. …………….

Going by the above precedent are we going to see one of the many individuals who reside in the UK and originate in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, declare the jurors of Nottingham Crown Court as blasphemers who deserve to be wajib-ul-qatll given that they have found guilty of rape a Mohammadden Cleric who shared the same first name as the Prophet of Mohammaddenism?

Muslim Imam Raped Boy of 12

Meanwhile is the Imam of Pakistani origin? There is an odour around him that suggests it.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 02 Feb 2011 07:18

Prem wrote:If Paki have any % of H&D left, they should refuse American cash aid till US waive Davis's diplomatic immunity. If Poaks persist upon putting this innocent man on trial then US special froces will have to snatch their man from Poak court in broad day light.

Whats with BRFits and perverse optimism. You thin that the RATS will do some thing as sensible as that. That too in this day and age?? They will take the aid and exchange the davis fellow with the terrorist mother of 3 or was it 5??

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 Feb 2011 08:49

China's and Pakistan's relationship with the US is best described as that of a parasite and the host.

The parasite sucks the blood and nutrition from the host, and sometimes weakens the host. But it is not in the interest of the parasite that the host dies. (The latter part is true of the China-US relationship)

With Pakistan, the opposite also seems to be true. The US seems to be giving them blood transfusion after blood transfusion because the parasite has gotten weak in spite of sucking the hosts' blood.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 02 Feb 2011 08:51

Pakistan Court Bars American's Release

On Tuesday, dozens of students belonging to a right-wing Islamic group chanted anti-American slogans, burned tires and blocked the road in Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city after Karachi, where the incident took place.

The court decision, and public demands for Mr. Davis's prosecution, leave the Pakistani government with little room to maneuver.

Our Paki friends are back on the streets with their misspelled banners

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 02 Feb 2011 08:57

Charlie wrote:

Our Paki friends are back on the streets with their misspelled banners

Wow, misspelled by the students of punjab university! Shows the standard of that university!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Feb 2011 09:17

Have they linked Raymond Davies to yehudis and Hindus yet?

Karna_A · Post by **Karna_A** » 02 Feb 2011 09:48

abhishek_sharma wrote:Equality in the eyes of the law in Pakistan

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... n_pakistan

The News also ran a story titled "How U.S. behaves when diplomats commit crimes."

Pak diplomat was involved in the hijacking of IA plane
http://www.hvk.org/articles/0401/59.html

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Feb 2011 10:25

The dire state of the Pakistan Railways

he Supreme Court was informed on Tuesday that out of the total 500 railways engines, 300 were out of service as finances were not available for their maintenance. The court observed that rail was the most important means of transportation of goods and people. A four-member bench headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry and comprising Justice Sair Ali, Justice Ghulam Rabbani and Justice Khalilur Rehman Ramday, heard a suo motu case regarding irregularities in the purchase of 150 locomotives by the Ministry of Railways, which caused Rs 40 billion loss to the national exchequer. Pakistan Railways Chairman, Shahid Hussain Raja, said the service of goods trains has been suspended completely, while only 10 percent passengers’ service has been suspended due to non-availability of funds. He rejected the corruption charges saying it seemed impossible that in Rs 55 billion PC-1 project there was a corruption of Rs 40 billion. {What a convincing argument ! Case closed.}

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Feb 2011 10:32

Afghan war winnable without Pakistan's help on border : US

Nato-led forces can still win the war in Afghanistan even if Pakistan fails to move against militants on the border, a top US general said on Tuesday.

"That's not a mission stopper in my mind," General David Rodriguez, deputy US commander in Afghanistan, told a Pentagon news conference.

Rodriguez said the war effort would not be derailed even if Pakistan never fulfils promises to take action in North Waziristan, saying Islamabad has launched effective operations elsewhere along the northwest border.

"We need them to do more. We're going to encourage them to do more because that makes it easier on what we're doing. But I think it's still doable, without them decreasing what they've been doing, which is significant," he said.

OK. That is very explicit. Pakistan is not going to go after the Haqqani Group; it has been made known to the US; and, the US has accepted that. Surprisingly, the intensity of drone attacks in that region has also declined in recent weeks.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 Feb 2011 10:33

^^^^
"Pakistan Railways Saves 60% in Fuel Costs!!!!"

In other news, IED Mubarak in Peshwar, 9 killed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12342244

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 02 Feb 2011 11:17

SSridhar wrote:He rejected the corruption charges saying it seemed impossible that in Rs 55 billion PC-1 project there was a corruption of Rs 40 billion. {What a convincing argument ! Case closed.}

It is a totally convincing argument. What the Paki minister meant was that if there was corruption in this project, it would involve embezzling Rs.55 billion out of Rs.55 billion rather than a mere Rs. 40 billion.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 02 Feb 2011 11:21

Raja Bose-> Jai Ho, once the Paki civilian Road, communication and railway infrastructure collapse, lets not forget , this will be big blow for Pakis miltary. These corrupt guys are doing our job. Keep it up.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 02 Feb 2011 12:27

RajeshA wrote:
jamwal wrote:
Eunuchs are a prosecuted minority in Pakistan, so India should provide an asylum facility for Pakistani Eunuchs! All Pakistani Eunuchs should be allowed to migrate to India. As Pakistan, the Quarantine for the Mentally Diseased, becomes oppressive and unbearable, such an asylum facility would provide Pakistani Eunuchs a ray of hope!

I think this could also provide the unemployed barbers, who become victims of Tellybunny Barbarity, an alternative source of income. I would suggest they open their "barber" shops next to the India Vija Office!

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 02 Feb 2011 14:58

Stage being set for an India-Pak thaw in Thimphu

Btw, our dossier target Hafiz Saeed is all hale and hearty and all set to deliver a sermon on the day before.

http://www.daylife.com/photo/0dub3QT6Un0QD

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 Feb 2011 15:21

Kiyani ko paagal kuttey ne nahi kata hai that he will go in for piss and tranquility with India at this juncture.

The Pakistanis view every peace move by India with suspicion.

Now at this juncture when IED mubaraks are going off regularly, the junta is on the streets, and the fervour for Jeehard is very high, most rulers will want status quo as far as government policies are concerned. So not much to be expected at thimpu, some closed doors secret-secret things will be said, and then out in the open there will be acrimony.

Pakistan will continue to delay prosecuting the 26/11 accused - Hafiz Sayeed will not even be prosecuted, and GoI will end up making the hawa garam for a few months upto the elections with the hindu terrorists, after which the people who have been alleged to be hindu terrorists will probably be found not guilty in court, because the charges against them were kinda trumped up to begin with.

Pakistanis must be intrigued by what GoI is upto. They know that the ISI boys did the Samjhauta Express job, they are wondering why GoI is blaming 'hindu terrorists' for it? They will be even more suspicious of GoI. They will see this as a political move by a political party that will do anything to remain in power.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 02 Feb 2011 16:15

ramana wrote:Have they linked Raymond Davies to yehudis and Hindus yet?

Not yet. But they have linked Davis to the daughter of pa'astan. Anti-US protest. Wonder why it took so long to make that connection.

Activists of Pasban held a demonstration at Hyder chowk and the press club, demanding the return of Dr Aafia Siddiqui for the return of American Raymond Davis accused in the murder of three Pakistanis in Lahore. Speaking on the occasion, Pasban leaders Shafique Qureshi and Moulvi Faiz urged the govt to secure the release of Dr Aafia Siddiqui

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 02 Feb 2011 18:07

think of it another way, if india 'admits' to samjhauta
like all good serial killers/mass murderers teh ISI will feel slighted and come out and claim credit!

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Feb 2011 18:21

Ms. Sherry Rehman agrees to withdraw her amendments to the Blasphemy law

Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani Wednesday said that Sherry Rehman has agreed to withdraw Blasphemy amendment Bill.

Talking to parliamentary delegation here, Gilani said that Sherry decided to withdraw the said bill in accordance with the party policy.

Prime Minister urged religious parties to come forward with the policy to restrain the misuse of Blasphemy law.

Gilani made it clear that no committee was constituted to amend the said law.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 02 Feb 2011 18:23

4 soldiers, 16 militants killed in clash in NW Pak

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 02 Feb 2011 18:29

Kiyani bechara.... Kiya toh Mumtaz Qadri, Kiya-nahin toh lamp post

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Feb 2011 18:56

Thanks brothers for answering pertinent questions...the answers reek of BRFisms. Now I guess the whole sub-thread on eunuchs should move over to the appropriate BENIS thread...though TSP increasingly is questioning the need for a separate thread as comedy, tragedy and farce are all mixed up in that Allah-blessed country.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 02 Feb 2011 19:17

Michael E. O'Hanlon is the Director of Research and Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy, 21st Century Defense Initiative at the Brookings Institute.

He is also a foolish and unthinking dunce.

Here is his new policy paper, dated Feb. 2011, titled "Improving Afghan War Strategy". He first lists all the problems currently in play, which is why, presumably, an "improvement" is called for in the AfPak strategy.

He quickly identifies the real problem -- that AfPak is not working for the US because Pak is fvcked up. He writes:

Getting Pakistan Off the Fence

Nine years into the campaign, we still cannot clearly answer the question of whether Pakistan is with us or against us....

And so, his solution to all this is:

1. Pakis are being Pakis because the US has not given them enough carrots.

2. The US aid to Pak should continue to be increased incrementally, as in the $2 billion package announced during their most recent strategeric dialog (on top of the currently funded multi-billion 5 year package).

3. Us should "encourage Pakistan-India dialogue (which would help persuade Islamabad it could safely move more military forces from its eastern border to its western regions)..."

But since the Pakis have made clear that the above carrots have not worked at all for the past 9 years, this idiot proposes this:

But President Barack Obama needs to think bigger.

Obama should offer Islamabad a much more expansive U.S.-Pakistani relationship if it helps win this war. Two major incentives would have particular appeal to Pakistan. One is a civilian nuclear energy deal like that being provided to India, with full safeguards on associated reactors. Pakistan's progress on export controls in the wake of the A.Q. Khan debacle has been good enough so far to allow a provisional approval of such a deal if other things fall into place as well, including Islamabad’s compliance with any future fissile production cutoff treaty. Second is a free trade accord. Struggling economically, Pakistan needs such a shot in the arm, and a trade deal could arguably do even more than aid at this point.

There must be something in the waters of the building where Brookings is housed, for it produce such repeat twaddle offenders.

Improving Afghan War Strategy
http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2011/02 ... anlon.aspx

US expert advocates nuclear energy deal for Pakistan

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 02 Feb 2011 21:02

Pakistan, a ‘factory of issuing fatwas’: PUC chief http://www.zeenews.com/news684595.html

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 02 Feb 2011 21:14

Policeman with "links" to al Qaeda assigned to protect VVIPs http://www.zeenews.com/news684552.html

Islamabad: A police official with "established links" to al Qaeda terror network was assigned to protect VVIPs in the Pakistani city of Lahore "many times", according to a media report on Wednesday.

The official served at the Prime Minister's House in Lahore and at the Federal Investigation Agency's main office in Lahore, The Express Tribune quoted its sources as saying.

Intelligence officials said the official, who was not identified, was a resident of Rawalpindi district but had managed to get himself declared a domicile of Lahore district and was recruited in Punjab Police on the basis of a forged certificate.

The official was assigned to protect former Chief Minister and senior PML-Q leader Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi in the past.

He was suspended when intelligence agencies established his links with al Qaeda. He was also detained by security agencies for questioning.

The official "not only got back his job after some time" but was assigned to the security detail of the Prime Minister's House in Lahore and the FIA office till December last year, the report said.

Subsequently, the FIA banned his entry into its offices "but surprisingly the police brass is still reluctant to take action against the police official notwithstanding his established links with al Qaeda", the report said.

The FIA''s main office in Lahore was twice targeted by terrorists in recent years and officials keep receiving threats of more attacks.

Questions have also been raised about the security for VVIPs after Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer was assassinated by a police guard Mumtaz Qadri last month.

Qadri was included in the security details of several top leaders, including the Prime Minister, even though he was removed from the Special Branch several years ago after being declared a "security risk".

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 02 Feb 2011 21:19

Afghan, Pakistani troops exchange fire

Afghan and Pakistani military troops exchange fire across an unmarked part of the border in an incident that left one Pakistani soldier dead.

Both sides accuse the other of initiating the conflict.

An Afghan border police commander in the eastern province of Khost confirmed the exchange of fire and accused Pakistan of opening fire first.

"At around 11:00 am (0630 GMT) today, Pakistani troops in Waziristan started firing heavy and light weapons towards police posts in Gurbuz district. Our soldiers returned fire," AFP quoted the official as saying.

"Their attack was completely unprovoked and without reason. The fighting is still continuing, there hasn't been casualties on our side," he added.

A Pakistani security official confirmed the death of one soldier and said eight others were wounded, with two of them in serious condition.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 Feb 2011 21:41

AjayKK wrote:Stage being set for an India-Pak thaw in Thimphu

Btw, our dossier target Hafiz Saeed is all hale and hearty and all set to deliver a sermon on the day before.

http://www.daylife.com/photo/0dub3QT6Un0QD

Lets get real here. India having surrendered on Mumbai and "saffron terror", TSP is going to drive a hard bargain. What the f%^ck is India trying to achieve with all this? I mean if terror has forced India to the negotiating table,TSP will rightly demand that if you want us to end terror, lets talk about handing over Kashmir. What is India's response going to be?

archan · Post by **archan** » 02 Feb 2011 21:43

India has not surrendered on "saffron terror". It is a bogey the GoI wants to build up and it has been fairly successful in doing so.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 Feb 2011 21:55

archan wrote:India has not surrendered on "saffron terror". It is a bogey the GoI wants to build up and it has been fairly successful in doing so.

What "success" can you point to Sir? Hadeez Saeed is sitting pretty in Rawilpindi ready to lauch the next attack should Kiyani give him the green signal. India is willing to talk Kashmir. What has India got in return for its massive climb down (If you don't want to call it surrender) from its position that no dialouge until TSP moves on 26/11 killers to India that is now begging for dialouge with TSP (under US pressure of course). What has India gained?

archan · Post by **archan** » 02 Feb 2011 22:10

Success for the ones wanting the saffron terror to be an issue.

(sorry if I am sounding cryptic. I have no wish to take away someone else's copyright.

)

Ask not what India has gained, ask what GoI has gained.