Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 04 Feb 2011 16:08

Muppalla wrote:BJP changes plan, DMK backs A Raja, Congress has no answer

Interesting choice of words!

Who is Raja's godfather, asks BJP

“After three years, when you arrest him (Raja), that money cannot be brought back...it is a theatre of the absurd...,” he said.

“The decisions by Raja and other ministers, were taken with permission from the Cabinet and the Prime Minister somewhere or the other during the process... So who is Raja’s Godfather and who all were involved should be revealed to the nation which is the right of the people,” Mr. Gadkari told reporters.

The real theatre of the absurd is how rapidly this country is turning into a banana republic with everybody at the top looting the country without any fear or shame and nobody seems to be able to do anything about it.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 04 Feb 2011 18:10

Vasu wrote:Who is Raja's godmother, asks BJP

fixed it

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 04 Feb 2011 18:30

Corruption striking at the roots of good governance: Pujya Prime Minister Man Mohan Singh ji

“This is a challenge which has to be faced frontally, boldly and quickly,” he said addressing the annual conference of Chief Secretaries of States in New Delhi.

He said, “Corruption strikes at the roots of good governance. It is an impediment to faster growth. It dilutes, if not negates, our efforts at social inclusion”.

“It dents our international image and it demeans us before our own people,” Dr. Singh said.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 04 Feb 2011 18:35

31 Jan, 2011, 12.44PM IST,PTI
Waiting for India's request in Hasan Ali case: Swiss govt

NEW DELHI: Amid a raging controversy over black money allegedly stashed by stud farm owner Hasan Ali in Swiss banks, Switzerland has said it is awaiting a "complete" request from India for help in this case since 2007.

Switzerland's Federal Office of Justice (FoJ) had last told Indian authorities in August 2010 to complete their request and the request has not been completed so far, an FoJ spokesperson told PTI.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 395989.cms

article from 2010:

Hasan Ali investigation uncovers money trail

ED had issued a show-cause notice to Khan in 2008 for foreign exchange violations regarding the $8.04 billion in his UBS account. The income-tax department in Mumbai also issued a notice and raised a demand of Rs40,000 crore against Khan for not disclosing funds in several foreign bank accounts, including the one in UBS. That amount has been raised to Rs50,000 crore, owing to charges because of non-payment.
...

The I-T department first raided Khan’s residence at Koregaon Park in Pune in January 2007 and seized documents that revealed his $8.04 billion UBS account in Zurich. The department said Khan concealed his income and had not filed income-tax returns since 1999. The department also raided his properties in Mumbai and Hyderabad.

http://www.livemint.com/2010/07/1223092 ... e.html?h=B

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 04 Feb 2011 18:38

All spectrum allocations since 2003 wrong: Report

All decisions on spectrum allocation since 2003 by successive governments, including the UPA, were procedurally wrong, concluded the one-man committee, which probed into the procedural lapses following the telecom scam.

Unveiling the report of the Shivraj V. Patil committee, Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal said in New Delhi on Friday that the findings on procedural lapses are being sent to the Central Bureau of Investigation, {this is again an attempt to dilute the ongoing Raja case. There is a huge attempt to get Raja off the hook which raises suspiciion about somebody bigger than Raja being involved in this. All attempts are therefore being made to scuttle the 1.76 Lakh Crore scam. First, Sibal called the CAG report rubbish and even went to the extent of arguing that there has been no loss at all. Now, this report and he is faithfully forwarding it to the CBI. The CBI will get the cue and extend the scope of investigation and make the whole issue infructuous.} which is looking into criminal culpability in the scam.

Addressing a press conference a day after the arrest of former telecom minister A. Raja, Mr. Sibal said his predecessor had said that he was “not deviating from the previous policies (the NDA government) but the problem was that the previous policies were wrong.”

Quoting the report, Mr. Sibal said the committee found that original spectrum allocation was “bad” and procedures were not followed both during the NDA government till 2004 and the UPA government up to 2008.

It also said the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) did not follow the advice of the Law Ministry or the views of the Finance Ministry over pricing of spectrum.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 04 Feb 2011 18:44

Param Pujya Maha Purush Maha Diggaj Maha Hasmukh Satguru Baba of Economics Shri Mana Mohana ji will never give a green signal for investigation on Shri Hasan Ali Mahodaya's swiss money

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 04 Feb 2011 22:17

Black money list revealed
LGT bank of Liechtenstein

1. Manoj Dhupelia

2. Rupal Dhupelia

3. Mohan Dhupelia

4. Hasmukh Gandhi

5. Chintan Gandhi

6. Dilip Mehta

7. Arun Mehta

8. Arun Kochar

9. Gunwanti Mehta

10. Rajnikant Mehta

11. Prabodh Mehta

12. Ashok Jaipuria

13. Raj Foundation

14. Urvashi Foundation

15. Ambrunova Trust

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 05 Feb 2011 00:01

Thank god for BRF.

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 05 Feb 2011 00:04

SSridhar wrote:All spectrum allocations since 2003 wrong: Report
All decisions on spectrum allocation since 2003 by successive governments, including the UPA, were procedurally wrong, concluded the one-man committee, which probed into the procedural lapses following the telecom scam.

Unveiling the report of the Shivraj V. Patil committee, Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal said in New Delhi on Friday that the findings on procedural lapses are being sent to the Central Bureau of Investigation, {this is again an attempt to dilute the ongoing Raja case. There is a huge attempt to get Raja off the hook which raises suspiciion about somebody bigger than Raja being involved in this. All attempts are therefore being made to scuttle the 1.76 Lakh Crore scam. First, Sibal called the CAG report rubbish and even went to the extent of arguing that there has been no loss at all. Now, this report and he is faithfully forwarding it to the CBI. The CBI will get the cue and extend the scope of investigation and make the whole issue infructuous.} which is looking into criminal culpability in the scam.

Addressing a press conference a day after the arrest of former telecom minister A. Raja, Mr. Sibal said his predecessor had said that he was “not deviating from the previous policies (the NDA government) but the problem was that the previous policies were wrong.”

Quoting the report, Mr. Sibal said the committee found that original spectrum allocation was “bad” and procedures were not followed both during the NDA government till 2004 and the UPA government up to 2008.

It also said the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) did not follow the advice of the Law Ministry or the views of the Finance Ministry over pricing of spectrum.

So its not "notional" loss anymore is it? Kapil Sibal will soon start teaching us that "Sab Moh Maya hai".
Anyhow, what has stopped UPA in its first or second term from nailing NDA's rear high up on the wall if they followed a flawed system in spectrun allocation.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 05 Feb 2011 01:17

Centre not averse to JPC if preceded by full debate

http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/05/stories ... 191400.htm

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 05 Feb 2011 02:40

http://politicsparty.com/MID_TERM_POLLS_2011.php

Speculation about mid term elections

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 05 Feb 2011 08:52

Black money list revealed LGT bank of Liechtenstein

no Politicians, only 52 crores .... cant believe

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i guess this is to safeguard the real culprits. once these people show that this is genuine money. GOI will start jumping saying "this is why we did not want to name and same, we will go to the bottom of others and if culpable then we will take action.". and never even try to investigate about it. hoping that Aam Admi has short memory.... elections will be 3 yrs far.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 05 Feb 2011 13:02

The LGT list has suddenly been "released" to the media so that the far more traitorous account of Hasan Ali will hopefully be sidelined in the public's eye!

This is great work from "spin-doctor" Mubarak Singh.Try and bury a scandal with revelations of another! The great difference between the two accounts is that the alleged accts. of the Mehta's and co. appear to be diamond and other business profits stashed away abroad to avoid IT dues ,while in the case of slimeball Hasan Ali, and his $8 billion,the money was earned from money-laundering,arms deals,terrorism,etc.,all treasonable activities against the GOI which should attract the death penalty! We will see more of these selected leaks about foreign accounts with the govt. apparently pursuing the "guilty",while the Alis and Quattrochis get away scot free!

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 05 Feb 2011 13:10

Venkarl wrote:Black money list revealed
LGT bank of Liechtenstein
1. Manoj Dhupelia
15. Ambrunova Trust

Interesting part is that only 15 names were released, there another 18 to come per Rajdeep Sardesai on Twitter

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Feb 2011 13:27

Does anybody have an idea of who these guys are ?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 05 Feb 2011 13:29

^
Are Mumbai's diamond merchants on leaked black money list?
http://www.rediff.com/business/report/a ... 110204.htm

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Feb 2011 16:27

2G Scam:Delhi Court issues notice to CBI

A Delhi court on Saturday issued notice to the Central Bureau of Investigation, asking it to file a detailed report on whether its probe in the 2G spectrum case covers the aspect of national security as raised by Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy in his private complaint seeking prosecution of former Telecom Minister A. Raja.

“Issue notice to the CBI to file its detailed report of the investigation being carried out by it and whether it covers the aspect of national security as raised by Subramanian Swamy in the present case,” Special CBI Judge Pradeep Chaddah said.

Dr. Swamy, meanwhile, submitted before the court that he is intending to move an application to implead some other persons, including Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi, as accused in this complaint.{That's a big news}

Sidd · Post by **Sidd** » 05 Feb 2011 17:30

I was not able to get my head around the logic for bestowing Brijesh Mishra with Padma Vibhushan by the Congress Govt until I found this.

Rahul's $0.2 mn encounter with FBI

Vajpayee's principal secretary and then national security adviser Brajesh Misra spoke to top US authorities to enable Rahul Gandhi and his girlfriend to get away," claimed Prem Chandra Sharma, who moved the court along with three others.

There seems to be an underwritten code among politicos about not harming their kinds. No wonder nothing happened for 6 years on Bofors while NDA was in prower. The idea is to make all sorts of noises about corruption while in opposition. Once in power, forget about corruption and get busy making money and the cycle of loot continues.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Feb 2011 07:16

Given that scams have become a strategic threat to the nation, I would second the suggestion made earlier that the scope of this thread be broadened. As it is we're already talking about other scams such as Hassan Ali in this thread. The oil adulteration scam, which led to the burning alive of a collector recently, and which appears to involve Congress minister Murli Deora, could also be discussed here. Mods may change thread title if this suggestion finds acceptance.

Here is an update Re Madhu Koda, whose scams were worth some 4000 crores:

Koda's judicial remand extended

TNN, Feb 1, 2011, 11.23pm IST

RANCHI: A vigilance court on Tuesday extended the judicial custody of former chief minister Madhu Koda and his aide Binod Sinha till February 15.

Special vigilance judge B K Khan extended the judicial custody in the case related to irregularity in allotment of work to different companies under the Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Vidyutikaran Yojna. While Koda is lodged in jail for more than a year, his aide Sinha was arrested from Delhi in September last year.

The judicial custody of two former ministers, Enos Ekka and Harinarayan Rai, was also extended by the special CBI court in disproportionate assets case. Special CBI judge S K Dubey extended the custody till February 15. Both the former ministers are in jail for more than a year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 407368.cms

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Feb 2011 07:42

Swamy set to include Karuna as accused

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Swamy-set ... 58794.aspx

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Feb 2011 10:02

‘The problem is in the way the telecom sector has been dealt with after 1999’

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/-The- ... 99-/746628

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Feb 2011 11:23

Raghavendra wrote:
Vasu wrote:Who is Raja's godmother, asks BJP
fixed it

Godmother is a rather an inappropriate term for what people in Tamil Nadu think that the lady is doing.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 07 Feb 2011 11:05

And now,by popular demand,the Congress Party and UPA present the second series in that blockbuster scam show,"Spectrum-2",with an even greater figure of 2,00,000 crores in value!

http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/07/stories ... 620100.htm

CAG goes after another spectrum deal
Madhumathi D.S. & Thomas K. Thomas

Preliminary estimates point to loss of more than Rs. 2,00,000 crore; Department of Space, ISRO under scanner

BANGALORE/NEW DELHI: Hard on the heels of its explosive investigations of the 2G spectrum allotments made in 2008 by the Department of Telecommunications, the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has started inquiries into a 2005 agreement between the Indian Space Research Organisation's commercial arm Antrix Corporation Ltd. and Devas Multimedia Private Ltd.

The agreement relates to ISRO's launching of two satellites for Devas but automatically bestows on the latter a large hidden benefit: unbridled use of 70 MHz of the scarce S-band spectrum over a 20-year period.

ISRO is under the Department of Space (DoS), which is directly in the Prime Minister's charge.

Business Line learns that according to preliminary CAG estimates, this spectrum largesse to a private customer could have caused the exchequer a loss in excess of Rs. 2 lakh crore. According to the contract with Devas, Antrix would have earned $11 million a year per satellite for 12 years.

By comparison, the presumptive loss incurred in the allocation of 2G spectrum by the DoT, as estimated by the CAG, is Rs 1.76 lakh crore.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 Feb 2011 17:49

Nitish is taking some initiative in Bihar, but one could do a lot more:

Bribeless in Bihar - http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/featur ... 045-0.html

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 07 Feb 2011 23:54

Another scam in the making worth Rs 2 lakh crore

ISRO under scanner over allotment of S-band

Wow... these spectrum and other scams are tampering and destroying world's largest democratic nation's identity and reputation on world stage

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Feb 2011 02:02

I guess department of Space and ANTRIX deals directly come under PM. There are no coalition limitations for this scam based on sat launches. I think this PM has to go now. No more excuses. I am okay with Diggy Raja as next PM.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 08 Feb 2011 02:18

Like Aurangzeb after Babur?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Feb 2011 03:00

Scam after scam and now another which may top 2G...For f*ck sake...Congress needs to go! All of India should be marching into New Delhi like the Egyptians!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 Feb 2011 03:28

Muppalla wrote:I guess department of Space and ANTRIX deals directly come under PM. There are no coalition limitations for this scam based on sat launches. I think this PM has to go now. No more excuses. I am okay with Diggy Raja as next PM.

Before anything happens to MMS, corrupt Yadyurappa should be kicked out of Kerala, bengaluru first for enmassing wealth from 1.8 crores in 2008 to 4 crores in 2011.

If MMS is surf clean, Diggiraja (who enhances the green and saffron colors) is clorox clean

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Feb 2011 03:37

Dhobi Patka will make them come clean !

munna · Post by **munna** » 08 Feb 2011 03:40

Muppalla wrote:I guess department of Space and ANTRIX deals directly come under PM. There are no coalition limitations for this scam based on sat launches. I think this PM has to go now. No more excuses. I am okay with Diggy Raja as next PM.

Till 2-G, Commonwealth, Radia and Black Money Fiascos it went like this

Rashtra: Sir-ji how could this happen under your benevolent and paternal gaze! O' Ever so thoughtful and wise one do reply.
MMS-ji: Mainu Nai Pata (I do not know/am not aware)
Media: Hang Yeddy Hang Yeddy
Progressive 9 percentis: nudge nudge wink wink (dsdiduhsiofuhsihf Vajpayee dnoiwuhdwiodhw Mahajan wfdhwiduhi Advani dsiushdosiahd BJP). Hence no worry have curry

After even perpetrating a scam on Space of all things

Rashtra: Sir-ji pray tell what to do now onlee??
MMS-ji: Mainu Ki?
Media: Solve Kashmir, Stop the flag yatra and hang yeddy!
Progressive 9 percentis: Ow come on (notice ivy league/oxbridge twang) it is nothing to worry about (insert: repeat arguments listed in previous lines)

While rest of us should line up to hear lectures on toilet construction, global finance, 9% growth and progressiveness. Great going, at this rate soon there won't be much left in the country to auction off. Bingo no scams because nothing left to sell only, problem solved.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Feb 2011 04:46

munna ji, I bet Kapil Sibal will come out with some bizzare theory of growth of ANTRIX corporation during NDA to that of this scam. Watch out space. I am sure this will definitely be a non-issue.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 08 Feb 2011 05:18

munna wrote:Great going, at this rate soon there won't be much left in the country to auction off. Bingo no scams because nothing left to sell only, problem solved.

Mr.clean presides over complete clean out of the treasury. Nothing left to clean anymore. BTW S-band sounds like a rock band

. It is a deep conspiracy onlee to have its name as S band, 2G etc. Thankfully, it is not been M-band. All clean all the way.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 08 Feb 2011 05:20

Muppalla wrote:munna ji, I bet Kapil Sibal will come out with some bizzare theory of growth of ANTRIX corporation during NDA to that of this scam. Watch out space. I am sure this will definitely be a non-issue.

Any doubts?

munna · Post by **munna** » 08 Feb 2011 05:50

Muppalla wrote:munna ji, I bet Kapil Sibal will come out with some bizzare theory of growth of ANTRIX corporation during NDA to that of this scam. Watch out space. I am sure this will definitely be a non-issue.

Gustakhi maaf-ji but that is like saying sun rises in the east! The Progressive Nine Percenties (our counterpart of 10 percentis) will somehow manage to say these words "blah blah blah Vajpayee blah blah blah NDA and yada yada yada BJP", but nobody will quite manage to explain the ghapla(scam).

That is why I say, some people have made it clear that party comes first. I guess we may have to recalibrate the debate now.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Feb 2011 07:28

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Feb 2011 07:34

But unlike 2G scam, this scam is yet to take place. Have those 2 satellites been even launched ?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Feb 2011 09:46

A decent effort - our R Vaidya seems to be a part of this effort:

BJP's 23-point charter to get back black money stashed abroad - http://www.rediff.com/business/report/b ... 110205.htm

Topping the recommendations of the task force is enactment of a law that declares the government of India as beneficiary of all monies, assets and bank accounts held abroad by the Indian nationals without declaring the same to the Indian authorities.

Such nationals be allowed to reclaim the assets by proving with evidence before an impartial tribunal that the assets held outside India are acquired by them by proper means and the non-declaration is merely a technical offence.

The task force said such an asset restoration provision will shift onus of proof on the person who has held undeclared wealth abroad and the government will not face the charge of expropriating the assets without the due process under the law.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 Feb 2011 20:11

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/kapil ... urie-84053

Kapil Sibal acts like 'A Raja's advocate', says Arun Shourie

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/centre-likel ... 37-64.html

Centre likely to agree to JPC on 2G: sources

A solution to Parliament stalemate may be in sight with Mukherjee, Congress' key troubleshooter, meeting the Opposition parties.

Sources told CNN-IBN that the Finance Minister said is the meeting that no price was bigger than running Parliament.

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And of course the latest Spectrum scam which comes directly under PMO

http://www.timesnow.tv/Unforgivable-sho ... 364790.cms

Unforgivable, shocking contract

The unbelieveable sweetness of the deal is Antrix will be responsible for obtaining all necessary government approvals, frequency clearance and funding for satellite.

Not just that, Antrix will lease to Devas Additional Sattelite capacity above and beyond PS2 satellite, and Antrix takes all the risk, insuring PS1 satellite and& also provide re-launch vehicle service for the PS1.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Feb 2011 21:28

Who are the palyers of teh Space scam? Who is MG Chandrasekhar? And what or who is Devas?

To me it looks like a few bureaucarts thought why not us and launched this one. On other hand it could be an Indian initiative to supplant the sat phones used by TSP terrorists i.e. "Thuraya" system run from Dubai.

So it could be sour grapes being revealed now.