Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 10 Feb 2011 12:57

Who are the major people to be affected? DMK, ADAG, Sharad Pawar.

Who have been making inroads into every industry and raking money? DMK.
Warnings did come last summer that Congress are aware of DMK's monetary and business power.

So, I guess this is being done to bring DMK and some others back to earth, reducing the threat and sending a warning to them.

What about civill aviation min? Radia was talking about kickbacks from emirati airlines.
PC says roads is where the big money is made. Radia says, Kamal Nath makes 15% on everydeal.

Imagine if a journalist looked into all this??

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 10 Feb 2011 14:04

Congress sacks Rajasthan minister for comments against President
Posted: Feb 10, 2011 at 1016 hrs IST

Jaipur Rajasthan Minister Ameen Khan, who has created a controversy by his remarks that Pratibha Patil was "rewarded" with the post of President for her loyalty to the Gandhi family, has been asked to resign.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news ... nt/748354/

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 10 Feb 2011 15:31

^same guys, one Hotel Balwas at Marine Lines (restaurant) and a Hotel Balwas at Mumbai Central.
Sharad Pawar, rumour has it, is using them as a front for all his black money. How else is Mr. Shahid Balwa now worth ~1 billion USD?

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 10 Feb 2011 15:40

Supreme Court asks govt to constitute special court exclusively for dealing with 2G spectrum case

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 10 Feb 2011 16:30

Black money: SC asks govt to take steps to block Hasan Ali's exit from India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 466597.cms

Order on plea for closing case against Quattrocchi reserved http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 467847.cms

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 10 Feb 2011 17:46

Raghavendra wrote:Black money: SC asks govt to take steps to block Hasan Ali's exit from India

I don't understand this. After all, this is an administrative decision which any government worth its salt would have done long back. Only in our glorious country have the courts to issue orders on such simple and routine matters.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 10 Feb 2011 21:58

BhairavP wrote:^same guys, one Hotel Balwas at Marine Lines (restaurant) and a Hotel Balwas at Mumbai Central.
Sharad Pawar, rumour has it, is using them as a front for all his black money. How else is Mr. Shahid Balwa now worth ~1 billion USD?

Till DB group started a Dairy Project in Baramati in partnership with a Sharad pawar relative they were just another small to medium enterprise.Since then thay have had a unbelievable growth. They sure are a front for Sharad pawar's ill gotten gains.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 10 Feb 2011 22:01

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 469663.cms

Let's hope this directive gets followed through to it's logical end and "the high and mighty" are behind bars and given exemplary punishment!!

Broadening the net, the Supreme Court asked the CBI to bring under its scanner corporate houses which were beneficiaries of the 2G spectrum scam without being influenced by their status be it millionaires or whether they are on the Forbes list.

Giving a free hand to the investigating agency and setting the contours of the probe, the Court asked the government to set up a special court exclusively to try the spectrum scam case.

A bench comprising Justices G S Singhvi and A K Ganguly asked the agency to lay its hand on the big corporate houses and the government officials who may have a role in the scam "as mere summoning them for examining them may not be sufficient".

"We have a large number of persons who think themselves to be law. Law must catch them. It should be done with greater expedition. Merely they are in the list of Forbes or they are millionaires does not make any difference," the Bench said after perusing the status reports filed by the probe agencies in which names of big corporates houses and their officers were mentioned.

Much needed clarity of purpose has been provided by the Supreme Court... hope such independence for the Investigating Agencies gets institutionalized and is not confined to this case.

Advocate Prashant Bhushan, appearing for an NGO, Centre for Public Interest Litigation, pointed out that the agencies have not questioned the heads of several companies including Swan technology, which was controlled by Anil Ambani's Reliance Group, when the spectrum was allocated.

At this, the Bench said "top authorities of the companies were not questioned. It is surprising that the managing directors were not summoned".

"Why CBI has not taken any action in this regard," the court asked.

The apex court said freedom of probe agencies should not be curtailed and they should go beyond the role of the four persons already arrested including the former telecom minister A Raja and tell the names of conspirators.

"This investigation has led to prima-facie conclusion about the culpability of four persons. What about the beneficiaries.

"They are part of a larger conspiracy. We want to know about them. You (CBI) take instructions and tell us what action you are planning to take," the bench said.

It questioned CBI's strategy of seeking short custodial remands of the accused and said it must have free hand to question anyone.

"There is something which is surprising. CBI must have a free hand to question anyone. Whether it's freedom is curtailed by seeking short remand....complexity is involved.

"It is a very complicated matter. We feel that investigating agency must be given free hand to seek longer remand. Otherwise the whole purpose of investigation is frustrated," the Bench said.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 10 Feb 2011 22:01

SSridhar wrote:
Raghavendra wrote:Black money: SC asks govt to take steps to block Hasan Ali's exit from India
I don't understand this. After all, this is an administrative decision which any government worth its salt would have done long back. Only in our glorious country have the courts to issue orders on such simple and routine matters.

Adding to that only in our glorious country, the PM of India proclaims that judiciary must not dictate actions to administration, that too in an international forum.

What a dumb head

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 10 Feb 2011 22:35

ISRO clarifies.

In official note, ISRO explains S-Band deal

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/in-of ... deal-84671

The matter gets murkier, Devas claims that they did everything with full knowledge and approval of Space Commission (includes PMO, NSA etc)
http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4364915.cms

Where as apparently ISRO did not inform the Govt (in first instance)
http://www.timesnow.tv/Exclusive-The-De ... 364962.cms

Massive SNAFU on here.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 11 Feb 2011 00:16

Oh boy, oh boy!!!

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-20 ... ed/748540/

‘In 2009, I told PM about (A Raja’s) loot, asked for a meeting with his Principal Secretary, no one called’

Arun Shourie

“A person very close to the deals started giving out a detailed account of all the companies that received undue favour”, Shourie said declining to name the individual. “Armed with those details (of front companies), I met the PM in the Rajya Sabha around August-September 2009...I told the PM showing him details and papers in the Rajya Sabha corridor. Please have a look at these details. There is a loot going on in your name and all the evidence is here,” Shourie said.

He said that he then asked the PM if he could call on Principal Secretary T K A Nair to give these details. When no call came for over a month, “I contacted the then CBI Director Ashwini Kumar. Despite receiving death threats, the individual I introduced was ready to give out all the information...When I asked the CBI why it was not acting (against Raja), I was told they were waiting for the PMO’s nod.”

Jai ho!!!

Jai ho!!!

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 11 Feb 2011 00:25

SSridhar wrote:
Raghavendra wrote:Black money: SC asks govt to take steps to block Hasan Ali's exit from India
I don't understand this. After all, this is an administrative decision which any government worth its salt would have done long back. Only in our glorious country have the courts to issue orders on such simple and routine matters.

Why is this a shock? Can't you see he is an agent of the establishment, an important one too. Hence the feet dragging

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Feb 2011 00:50

MY big CT is MMS gave all the dubious folks: media, all lies, Business interests, INC politicians, babus, anyone who could get freebie, enough rope to hang themselves and they gladly obliged. Most of these also had links to earlier deals.

If he had not turned a blind eye all these scumbags wouldn't over indulge and expose themselves. Its old Pandava strategy. Make the Kauravas monsters of greed. Recall the "not even five villages" remark. And then kill them in the battle field (courts) without a tear being shed.

Where do you think the corrupt NJBPRE suddenly has guts to order the govt to do this, do that?

Even now people think Yuddhistar is a fool/babe in the woods.

The sacrifice of the bahu looks laughable now!

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 11 Feb 2011 01:03

^^ Ramana, remember I used to say the system is changing in a phased approach, year by year, they are tightening the areas of corruption. MMS allowed some to go on as it is the growth phase.
But is this the next phase where, rake up a series of shocking corruption revelations and the next move will be to strengthen anti corruption laws significantly.

Have people become rich enough for this phase to start? Last year MMS announced no minister or immediate family member can have involvement in any PSU and so on.

We are now heading into a phase where it'll be harder for corruption to take pllace.

However there is a theory that, INC relies on patronage, all these schemes such as NREGA have benefitted certain states and ruling establishment big men.
This is how INC win.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 11 Feb 2011 01:09

India sinking into morass of corruption: Karan Singh
http://www.sify.com/news/india-sinking- ... iabba.html

UPDATE 1-Key ally of India's ruling party linked to graft scandal
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/ ... BM20110210

Government hit by corruption scandals
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/curren ... 21039.html

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Feb 2011 01:09

ramana wrote:MY big CT is MMS gave all the dubious folks: media, all lies, Business interests, INC politicians, babus, anyone who could get freebie, enough rope to hang themselves and they gladly obliged. Most of these also had links to earlier deals.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 66#p883466
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 3#p1027323

We will only know that when a future KS reveals the details.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Feb 2011 07:37

1 year RI for former Kerala Congress Minister
Not directly related to this thread. Is this the first instance of a Minister being sentenced in free India ?

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 11 Feb 2011 07:50

SSridhar wrote:1 year RI for former Kerala Congress Minister
Not directly related to this thread. Is this the first instance of a Minister being sentenced in free India ?

Sukh Ram?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 11 Feb 2011 07:52

India signs tax treaty with British Virgin Islands

"information is to be treated as secret and can be disclosed to only specified person or the authorities concerned with the determination of a tax appeal."

http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/11/stories ... 322000.htm

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 11 Feb 2011 07:53

Devas stands its ground

Special Correspondent

NEW DELHI: Devas Multimedia on Thursday insisted it had secured all required approvals for its project with Antrix Corporation from the highest levels of government, including from the Union Cabinet. The company alleged in a brief but muscular statement that it was never informed about the review of the agreement any time prior to February 8, 2011. On the contrary, it was assured that the delays in delivery of the satellite capacity were only on account of “technical issues.”

Tossing the ball back into the Centre's court, Devas said it had “fulfilled all of its obligations in respect of the Agreement over the past six years” and was awaiting the delivery of the contracted space segment capacity, which has been delayed by more than two years.

“Devas Multimedia has a legally binding Agreement with Antrix Corporation… Devas proceeded with the project after required consents and approvals were obtained within GOI , culminating with [the] Space Commission and Union Cabinet, and the same were confirmed to us by Antrix in February 2006,” Devas Multimedia president and CEO Ramachandran Viswanathan said.

http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/11/stories ... 250100.htm

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 11 Feb 2011 07:55

ramana wrote:MY big CT is MMS gave all the dubious folks: media, all lies, Business interests, INC politicians, babus, anyone who could get freebie, enough rope to hang themselves and they gladly obliged. Most of these also had links to earlier deals.

If he had not turned a blind eye all these scumbags wouldn't over indulge and expose themselves. Its old Pandava strategy. Make the Kauravas monsters of greed. Recall the "not even five villages" remark. And then kill them in the battle field (courts) without a tear being shed.

Where do you think the corrupt NJBPRE suddenly has guts to order the govt to do this, do that?

Even now people think Yuddhistar is a fool/babe in the woods.

The sacrifice of the bahu looks laughable now!

Sigh. I guess when the outlook seems bleak we can console ourselves with comforting conspiracy theories.

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 11 Feb 2011 08:57

A corrective action by popular demand can be expected (or hoped) when things go real bad, but I find it far-fetched to believe that it is a deliberate ploy.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 11 Feb 2011 09:56

Ramana-ji; the writing is on the wall, all scams reach PMO in a very direct manner. We can not be hopeful any more.

It is a open and shut case of PMs office being used to facilitate the loot for powers that decided on the PM.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 Feb 2011 10:57

The ball is over and Cinderella has gone back home and we the ordinary citizens are left with holding the shoe.
Any defense of MMS is useless now.
We can try to put whatever chanikian spin to all the scams being unearthed now but where has PM shown that he was not sleeping on the job.
It is hard to believe that PMO could not figure out what was going on. If he is such a babe in the wood, then he should apologize to the nation and go home. How is this govt any different from Mubarak's govt ?
Even now we hardly have PM speak anything on this public loot of India that is going on.Heck he could not even fire Raja or Pawar.
To say he was trying to work with a purpose is hilarious. He is no character from Mahabharat. Maybe Mahananda from Kalidas?

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 11 Feb 2011 11:00

He is no character from Mahabharat

Possibly Drithrashtra.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 Feb 2011 12:20

But on second thought, If the intent was to crown Rahul Gandhi as PM around 2012, SG would not have let all these scammers run amok.
Even a fool in politics understands that once you are declared corrupt/incompetent, The tag does not wash away so easily.
Even today Rajiv Gandhi is synonyms with Bofors scandal and VP singh and IKG as incompetent.
How could Kangress leadership let this happen right under their nose. This was not the last time they were going to fight for PM'ship of India.
With the tag of worst and most corrupt government, How is Kangress going to crown the eldest son of Gandhi dynasty on the throne now.

Something just doesn't gel here.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 11 Feb 2011 12:25

A lot of 'middle class morality' in evidence.The world is not black and white.There are many shades of grey.Power and Pelf drive Politics.Let us not delude ourselves otherwise.The Sanskrit Rajanya is related to Rajasa.

Corporates lobbying is par for the course for them.It is the politicians who have to be above board.It is a fact that 'Gandhian' hyocrisy of the Congress and its 'socialism' that is responsible for the mismatch between rhetoric,posturing by parties and reality.Add to it,Indias ethnic-linguistic mix and social engineering by the British.

There is a challenge before the polity.Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay,Father of Modern Indian Nationalism,foresaw that modern materialism will degrade Brahmanas and Kshatriyas while exalting Vaishyas and Shudras.Varna Samkara is the order of the day.India will have to come up with creative solutions for its unique problems that seeks balance between equity and excellence,indvidualism and the community.

VP Singh sought the cheap way out,giving sops to a 'few' OBCs.He sought to cripple Indian capital which is playing a huge role in Indias growth..It needs to be given support,direction and regulation not stifling control.To tar everyone by the same brush,is not understanding the history and destiny of India.The PM is responsible,atleast in small measure,in unleashing Indian growth potential.there are crony capitalists,petty casteist leaders who will never give up fiefdoms easily.Yet the concerns of peasants/workers. cannot be wished away either.

British social engineering has blurred the moral vision of our society shackling it in chains.The BJP approach provoked a backlash in Bihar,TN,AP etc.The Congress has to co-opt and blunt the opposition.What the seccessionists caricature as the Brahmin/Hindu python, betraying the pettiness and shallowness of the critics.

The first come-first serve policy was formulated in NDA period.Pramod Mahajan-Better not to talk about him.In an atmosphere of pervasive corruption,even the wise falter.The PM,in a weak moment,tried to favour a few technocrats from Bengaluru.Let me put my conspiracy hat on as one biased in favour of Karnataka.Here is a state which has always stood by the nation like its neighbour Maharashtra.Its capital is cosmopolitan like Mumbai,is the home of a large middle class from all parts of India,has no record of seccessionist activity,has a polity sympathetic to Sanatana Dharma,does not have politicians who blackmail the Cente.Perhaps the PM in a weak moment supported technocrats from the city which is home to so many institutions important to Indian defence.I am not condoning it.But in a weak moment,a 'soft' person perhaps 'supported' technocrats.But as of today,no 'actual' damage has been done in the Antrix deal.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 11 Feb 2011 12:56

svenkat wrote:In an atmosphere of pervasive corruption,even the wise falter.The PM,in a weak moment,tried to favour a few technocrats from Bengaluru.Let me put my conspiracy hat on as one biased in favour of Karnataka.Here is a state which has always stood by the nation like its neighbour Maharashtra.Its capital is cosmopolitan like Mumbai,is the home of a large middle class from all parts of India,has no record of seccessionist activity,has a polity sympathetic to Sanatana Dharma,does not have politicians who blackmail the Cente.Perhaps the PM in a weak moment supported technocrats from the city which is home to so many institutions important to Indian defence.I am not condoning it.But in a weak moment,a 'soft' person perhaps 'supported' technocrats.But as of today,no 'actual' damage has been done in the Antrix deal.

First let us see who all the unnamed foreign investors are. Then we can decide whether it was a 'moment of weakness' or yet another attempt to loot.

Also the so called inquiry seems to be a thoroughly shameless attempt at covering-up:

High-powered panel a cover-up exercise: BJP

NEW DELHI: Within minutes of the government announcing a high-powered panel to look into the controversial Antrix-Devas deal on S-band spectrum on Thursday, the BJP questioned its composition saying BK Chaturvedi was among those who had approved the agreement as cabinet secretary in 2005.

Dubbing the formation of the committee as an attempt at "another cover-up" exercise, the BJP said its terms of reference did not cover the money trail. "Chaturvedi was cabinet secretary when the agreement was signed between Devas and Isro. Is it right if decisions taken by some people are investigated by the same people? This is manipulation of the system," BJP spokesperson Nirmala Sitharaman said.

She said the panel was only meant to review the decision and not cover aspects like source of funding, ownership and whether the S-band spectrum could be allocated. She said the original company which got the spectrum sold it to a company based in the US which has been routing its money through two companies based in Mauritius. Two Devas companies were issued 15,730 convertible cumulative preferential shares each in 2006 at a huge premium on its share worth Rs 10, the BJP spokesperson said.

The two-member committee headed by Chaturvedi, member, Planning Commission, is to review the technical, commercial, procedural and financial aspects of the contract between Antrix and Devas Multimedia. It will also review procedures and approval processes followed by Antrix, Isro and Department of Space and suggest improvements and changes.

Alleging that the S-band issue was a clear blueprint for frauding, Sitharaman said a "set of insiders" had made it look like the deal was for building two satellites worth Rs 2,000 crore.

The BJP is all set to go hammer and tongs on the S-band issue, which could give added ammunition to the party's campaign against corruption. Targeting Prime Minister Manmohan Singh , who heads the Department Of Space, the party has made it clear that it will not give up unless he "breaks his silence".

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 472821.cms

One point of caution, however, is that focusing on the PM should not distract from the misdeeds of the 2G family.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 11 Feb 2011 13:48

svenkat wrote:The first come-first serve policy was formulated in NDA period.

you clearly dont know what first come first serve policy is.

watch the ibn interview of Arun Shorie, if you dont have time read this

"First come first serve policy is the last principle that is applied when several parties qualify on other set criteria and then if more companies qualify the spectrum that is available is given out on first come first serve policy."

svenkat wrote:The PM,in a weak moment,tried to favour a few technocrats from Bengaluru. Perhaps the PM in a weak moment supported technocrats from the city which is home to so many institutions important to Indian defence.I am not condoning it.But in a weak moment,a 'soft' person perhaps 'supported' technocrats.

The puppet PM was asked by his master to favour these persons so that part of the profit made by Devas Multimedia could be channeled to her secret swiss bank acoounts. Bengaluru didnt get a naya paise, so why ignore the culprits and try to blame a city as culprit?

svenkat wrote:But as of today,no 'actual' damage has been done in the Antrix deal.

"General (CAG) has indicated that the Antrix-Devas deal has caused the nation an estimated loss of Rs.2 lakh crore."

Birather please join congress party and replace vuvuzela manish tiwari as their chief liar, you are better than him.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 Feb 2011 13:56

svenkat Ji, Why berate 'middle class morality'. If objecting to corruption and finding loot of the country revolting, then yes, most of us are in middle class morality group especially when most of us are middle class only.
MMS has been a weak and incompetent leader. Why defend him with this moment of weakness argument. It is more like eternal saga of weakness.If that was his moment of weakness, what was 2-G, Sugar import, CWG scam that have exploded in last few months.

Let us define what you mean by "He tried to favor technocrats from Bangalore". Are you saying he let them loot public exchequer of 2 Lac crore because he was being nice with them. How sweet of him.
Is he a PM or a roadside romeo who is being nice with his Girlfriends. If he wants to be nice with someone, let him do it with his own money and resources.

You are defending what is indefensible. If we don't stand up for the public loot of this nation now, we shall be condemned again for next 800 Years under the yoke of foreign rulers and their local poodles.

To quote a poet,"Lamhon ne khata ki, sadiyoon ne sazaa payee"

svenkat wrote:A lot of 'middle class morality' in evidence.
snip....

The first come-first serve policy was formulated in NDA period.Pramod Mahajan-Better not to talk about him.In an atmosphere of pervasive corruption,even the wise falter.The PM,in a weak moment,tried to favour a few technocrats from Bengaluru.Let me put my conspiracy hat on as one biased in favour of Karnataka.Here is a state which has always stood by the nation like its neighbour Maharashtra.Its capital is cosmopolitan like Mumbai,is the home of a large middle class from all parts of India,has no record of seccessionist activity,has a polity sympathetic to Sanatana Dharma,does not have politicians who blackmail the Cente.Perhaps the PM in a weak moment supported technocrats from the city which is home to so many institutions important to Indian defence.I am not condoning it.But in a weak moment,a 'soft' person perhaps 'supported' technocrats.But as of today,no 'actual' damage has been done in the Antrix deal.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 11 Feb 2011 14:32

On telecom, dont think any government can claim to be "squeaky clean"...From Pramod Mahajan onwards, policy have been changed to suit corporate needs....There were questionable changes in Shourie's time as well (FCFS came in during his time), though his policy-making can be defended solely on the basis of his personal integrity...

At the end of the day, all of it comes down to intent...Was the policy changed for a larger macro good, in process benefiting certain companies? Or was it the other way round...

In Raja's case, unofrtunaetly for him the evidence of criminal intent is too strong...It cant be defended in the court of perception, even if he defends it in a court of law...

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 11 Feb 2011 14:44

^ another congress chamcha singing the first-come-first-serve tune without understanding what it means

height of shamelessness to support congress party when they are looting people's money

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 11 Feb 2011 17:08

Raja did what Sonia and Karunanidhi ordered: Subramanian Swamy

The latest spectrum scam on S-band, the high value band width of 70 MHz (megahertz, units of frequency) considered to be of enormous commercial value for high-speed, terrestrial mobile communications, was another instance "of loot of national resources".

However, Swamy tried to deflect criticism from Manmohan Singh on the controversy, over allocation of space spectrum using S-band in a deal between the Indian Space Research Organisation's commercial arm and a private company.

"It appears the PM came to know about the S-Band contract much later. It seems Suresh Pachouri, minister of state in the Prime Minister's Office (PMO), was handling the S-Band issue," he added.

He targeted Sibal again, saying the "Space Commission, of which Sibal was an important member, had approved the contracts".

The politician also attacked Sonia Gandhi on the controversial appointment of Central Vigilance Commission chief P.J. Thomas, an accused in the 2000 case of import of palm oil at prices higher than the international rate when he was food secretary in the Kerala government.

http://www.sify.com/news/raja-did-what- ... o=obinsite

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 11 Feb 2011 17:28

I think Swamy should be put in jail for at least two to three years for complicating the issues. Justice is taking its due course in Raja' case and it will bring out certain evidences out linked to whoever was involved or related or ordered. Swamy playing into populism and twisting angles he plays between politicians and thus make this issue complicated and complex not to pin point a particular person and then through him everyone who are involved. Thereby he is obstructing justice in one way or the other. We have to wait until Raja himself comes out with names to pursue this further and other officials will certainly come out at one stage.

COURT-SPECTRUM 2 LAST
http://news.oneindia.in/2011/02/08/cour ... d0126.html

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 11 Feb 2011 17:47

joshvajohn wrote:I think Swamy should be put in jail for at least two to three years for complicating the issues. Justice is taking its due course in Raja' case and it will bring out certain evidences out linked to whoever was involved or related or ordered. Swamy playing into populism and twisting angles he plays between politicians and thus make this issue complicated and complex not to pin point a particular person and then through him everyone who are involved. Thereby he is obstructing justice in one way or the other. We have to wait until Raja himself comes out with names to pursue this further and other officials will certainly come out at one stage.

COURT-SPECTRUM 2 LAST
http://news.oneindia.in/2011/02/08/cour ... d0126.html

By the same count many journalists, Teesta Sevalnad should be put in jail for twisting a lot of issues.

Why Sir, Swamy is operating within the legal framework, if he had not acted the way he did, I doubt the 2G issue would have come out.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 11 Feb 2011 18:34

2G seems to be preferring Chidu over Pranab da?

The Ministry of Home Affairs spokesperson forwarded to all correspondents a Wall Street Journal article lauding the leadership of Home Minister P Chidambaram, hinting at his possibility to take the top slot if Prime Minister Manmohan Singh were to step down. Entitled, India Ruling Party Ponders Leadership, the article said, “Chidambaram’s name is coming up as speculation mounts over who might lead the Congress party after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who is 78 and isn’t likely to seek another term when his ends in 2014.”

Interestingly, at the first Cabinet meeting on Thursday since the row over the S-band spectrum allocation involving the Isro broke, Chidambaram was among the PM’s colleagues who questioned the alleged scam involving India’s space agency’s Antrix and Devas. The buzz is Civil Aviation Minister Vyalar Ravi raised the issue after seeking “permission” from the Prime Minister, wanting to know who in Isro kept the Cabinet and the government in the dark. Then Chidambaram said, “the scientists should not think we are idiots.” Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal joined in, wonder how his ministry was kept out. The PM’s response was that an inquiry had been ordered!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... re_twitter

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 11 Feb 2011 18:43

joshvajohn wrote:I think Swamy should be put in jail for at least two to three years for complicating the issues. Justice is taking its due course in Raja' case and it will bring out certain evidences out linked to whoever was involved or related or ordered. Swamy playing into populism and twisting angles he plays between politicians and thus make this issue complicated and complex not to pin point a particular person and then through him everyone who are involved. Thereby he is obstructing justice in one way or the other.

Why the massive takleef?

Swamy has done a lot to expose these corrupt ministers in the central government.
He deserves praise for singlehandedly fighting such high level crooks.
Your suggestion to imprison him either stems from the likely fact that some of these crooks maybe your bosses, who are using you to attack Swamy or maybe you're jealous of his popularity.

joshvajohn wrote:We have to wait until Raja himself comes out with names to pursue this further and other officials will certainly come out at one stage.

Certainly, Raja will reveal the names of his accomplices in the 2G mega scam and incriminate himself

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 11 Feb 2011 18:58

My point was the case is now focussed on Raja and those officials. In his point Swamy widens the net and thus make the case weak by spreading a loose hypothesis of relating to DMK chief and Sonia. By doing so it would become a political issue rather than a justice issue. Corruption should be seen on the basis of evidences and pursue in a way that even the policians and parties are brought to justice on the basis of evidences rather than simply making rumours that would divert the issues. DMK chief will file a case against Swamy and the issue will be diverted by his possibilities of providing evidence rather than pursuig Raja and then through him others.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Feb 2011 19:19

^ are you guys for real?

You want law to take its course, the same way it did in Bofors, Telgi, Purulia and many other scams? And you want to limit the number of culprits as too many culprits would complicate matters?

Joke of the century, I would say!

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 11 Feb 2011 19:21

@joshvajohn , money looted from 2G scam was diverted to Kalaignar TV owned by DMK, Karunanidhi is equally guilty in this matter.
So how come you are claiming DMK is innocent.
Stop being ignorant, keep following the case and stop attacking swamy

DMK's Kalaignar TV linked in 2G scam
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_dm ... am_1506180

The probe into the second-generation mobile telephony spectrum scam has shown links between accused Shahid Usman Balwa-promoted Swan Telecom and Kalaignar TV owned by DMK's first family.

Balwa, linked to Swan Telecom, which was allegedly favoured by former telecom minister A Raja in grant of UAS licence and scare radio waves, according to CBI submission in a local court while seeking further remand of Raja.

"It has also come to light that there was a transaction of Rs214 crore from M/s Cineyug Films private limited to Kalaignar TV in 2009. Kalaignar TV belongs to Sharad Kumar and others who are closly associated with Raja.

"The funds were arranged by M/s Cineyug Films from DB Group companies wherein the family members of Balwa are the directors or shareholders," CBI said in its application.

Balwa's DB realty had floated Swan Telecom which bagged the spectrum at low prices only to sell of a portion of it at very high profit.

Balwa sold a share in the licence to Etisalat, a UAE based company, allegedly for Rs4,200 crores while he had got it for just Rs1537 crore.

CBI sources said the money transfer to the firm owned by DMK, could become an important circumstantial evidence.

They hinted at the possibility of questioning of certain people associated with the TV channel.