Telangana Monitor

[Yagnasri]

I expected him to have more confidence in himself. In any event he lost all his credibility and now it is INC and TDP in the AP state in any elections in the near future. The social justice slogan is also now a tool for looting.

[vijayk]

^^ That guy has no character. He proved himself a total con artist when he and Arvind took money, land and other assets from MLA aspirants. This stupid act shows how cheap and characterless Indians have become. He goes and kneels in front of the ITALIAN scum for what? for a few minister posts? Did he change his position telangana too now that he became a part of MAFIA?

http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16
Chiru Gets First Reprimand From High Command

According to reports from New Delhi, AICC in-charge of AP affairs Veerappa Moily reprimanded Chiranjeevi for launching attack on former Chief Minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy within minutes of joining the Congress, stating that corruption was at its worst in the state during his regime.

“Madam Sonia Gandhi has strictly warned all of us not to make any derogatory comments against YSR or corruption during his regime, since it would reflect on the Congress high command, too. YSR was part of the Congress family and loyal to Sonia Gandhi till his death. None of us made any comment against YSR so far and it is better you, too, remain silent. If you want, you can attack Jaganmohan Reddy,” Moily reportedly told Chiranjeevi.

Chiranjeevi had to put up an embarrassing smile and told Moily that he would remain cautious hereafter.

The ITALIAN 2"G" duo have every reason to worry. They are wetting their pants.

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 110208.htm
Cong will be devastated in UP, says secret survey

A survey conducted to gauge the mood of the electorate in Uttar Pradesh has shaken up the top leadership of Congress like never before. The writing is on the wall: the Congress will hopelessly lose Uttar Pradesh to Mayawati.

If elections are held today, Mayawati will become chief minister again with a larger majority.
In a likely repeat of Bihar, the Congress party is poised to drop to single digit with an all time low figure of 9 seats out of 405 in the UP assembly elections, scheduled to be held in 2012, according to a comprehensive survey commissioned by the party. Uttar Pradesh, the most crucial state for the Congress and the Gandhi family, is showing radical preferences.

In spite of party general secretary Digvijay Singh's hyper activism to create a loyal Muslim vote bank for the party, Muslims in UP seem to have decided to ditch Congress en-masse. In spite of Rahul Gandhi's frequent visits to Dalit homes, they are just not ready to ditch Maywati yet.

My 2 cents: Looks like the whole Hindu terror has been invented just for UP/Kerala/Bengal elections

In sharp contrast, the survey says that Mayawati's Bahujan Samaj Party is set to increase its tally and will notch up 263 seats in the 405-seat assembly.
Off the record, the results of a survey commissioned by the party in January 2011 have come as a huge shock to Rahul Gandhi, said sources in the party.

While the survey shows the Congress slipping to fourth position, the Bharatiya Janata Party is at the second position with 72 seats while the Samajwadi party is at 40 seats -- but only if it has an alliance with Ajit Singh's Rashtriya Lok Dal, which is at 13 seats, bettering even the Congress party's tally.

The survey cites a number of reasons for the poor performance of the Congress.

A prominent reason is the Ayodhya judgement, which has made a negative impact on the Congress base as the Muslims appear to have deserted the party and thrown their weight behind Mayawati. While her Brahmin and Harijan votes are intact as of now, she may get more Muslim votes than she got the last time around.

The second key factor for the party doing badly is the lack of a leader, someone who can be projected at the polls and who can become the visible face of the party as is the case with Mayawati or SP chief Mulayam Singh Yadav.

The survey states that the BJP may get stronger because the Rajput, Kurmi and Bania communities may gravitate towards it and the party may project Murli Manohar Joshi as the chief minister. The Brahmins may also favour the BJP.

My 2 cents: My be the Hindu terror card created by ITALIAN scums and their slaves has offended the public...


This is the time to destroy and bury this DIE-nasty and create a real democracy in India with nationalist forces from CON party taking it over from scammers. The traitor goes and saves the scums in their self destruction path.

http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16
Sonia Gandhi's 'Evil Eye' On Tirumala?

The Tirumala Tirupathi Devasthanam is no longer being seen as a holy place of pilgrimage by some fiendish eyes. It is being seen as a goose laying golden eggs and now it has caught the eye of Sonia Gandhi, as per sources. The first step for that is the proposal about converting Tirumala into an Archaeological site and tagging it to the Archaeological department. She wants her ITALIAN hands in every cookie jar

If that happens, then it will come under the control of central government. So far, only the state government was having access to the funds of TTD and many instances have shown how money was eaten. Now, it is looking evident that the Center also wants to eat money.

May be it is a blessing in disguise. A lot of people are now certain that only TDP can fight the menace of CON party and DIE-nasty in AP. This guy used his caste name and glamor to fool a lot of people into wasting their votes instead of voting for TDP.

[SwamyG]

Long back, I had expressed my own CT - Chiru was propped by INC.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 85#p795585

I made that statement in December 2009. Looks like my CT had some strength. "Long back" mutlab, I must have CTed some time in 2009.

I also said this:
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 85#p795585

SwamyG, Chiru is too popular an asset to have been used as backup or for alternative strategy. He could have been and still has potential to be an NTR. But I agree it is not entirely unimaginable that he is being "aided" by INC and the guy may not have realized his true potential.

Just simple charisma will not do in politics. Like you say NTR had a vision; so if Chiru has to excel he needs to articulate clear vision by words or by action. I was working in Hyderabad during CBN era; I so often heard how CBN roamed around with a laptop doing Lotus Notes presentation (it could be simple rumor); but he ably placed Hyderabad and AP on World IT map. Much of the construction boom and other rosy picture is because of him. One might be able to charge him for neglecting other areas; but then in my opinion we will miss what he did. MGR, from TN, used to think image is paramount. CBN probably did not think it was that imporant.

And this (also note what Ramana garu said then):
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 65#p732565

However with YSR gone, CBN has a chance to come back. No wonder Chiranjeevi is downcast for he knows he will get what is his due.

Chiranjeevi has to merge with INC or someother national party. CBN will tandoor him.

A cab driver in Hyderabad said, it was more of TDP (CBN) losing than INC (YSR) winning. He cited Chiru splitting the votes. I did not check the cab driver's political affiliation. AP apart from being a rich state, is known for violent factionalism.

[ramana]

SwamyG, This is what Tagore was writing about "Where the mind is free..."

Greek philosophy is based on observation, deduction. Hindus add another Intution.

In modern lingo the first two are left brain and the other one a right brain activity.

So people dismissing things as CT are willfully killing their right brain activity. Now a whole industry of psychologists has developed to develop right brain activity using mind maps etc.

Meanwhile Pioneer editorial on demise of PRP in Andhra Pradesh.


Its all over for PRP

It’s all over for PRP

February 10, 2011 9:16:29 PM

Congress gains, but what does Chiranjeevi get?

Although Praja Rajyam Party chief Chiranjeevi, a popular cine actor in Andhra Pradesh, presented a cheerful face while declaring his political outfit’s merger with the Congress recently, the occasion must have been saddening for the matinee idol who had established the party hoping to emerge as a latter day NT Rama Rao on the State’s political stage. We can be sure that he had dreamt of influencing national politics one day, just as NT Rama Rao had come to enjoy a much larger than life image beyond Andhra Pradesh. The high expectations he had aroused among his many fans while launching the party were all belied in the months that followed. After a promising start, the party began to flounder, especially when it abandoned its individuality and decided to hobnob with the Congress. Electorally too it did less well than expected, failing to convert the passion of the massive crowds that turned out at the film star’s meetings into votes. So much so that the PRP ended up winning only 18 seats in the 2009 Assembly polls. Mr Chiranjeevi himself lost an election in the Godavari region, said to be the stronghold of the Kapu vote-bank on which he had so much depended. Over the last few months, the PRP’s relevance was on rapid decline with the party failing to sensibly exploit the turmoil in the State triggered by the agitation for Telangana, rebellion by Mr Jaganmohan Reddy, and Mr Chandrababu Naidu’s fast for farmers’ rights. Perhaps Mr Chiranjeevi believes that the PRP’s merger with the Congress will at least keep him relevant in State politics. Only time will tell if that happens, since the Congress central leadership is not known to allow its regional satraps to flourish — Mr Jaganmohan Reddy offers a good example. As a Congress member, the film star will have considerably less leverage to articulate independent opinions and could become a victim of collateral damage in case the party runs into trouble in the coming months. As against this, it is not clear what benefits Mr Chiranjeevi will derive out of the merger.

For the Congress, though, the development is one of several gains — at least for the moment. Through the merger, its legislative strength has been shored up with at least an additional 15 MLAs and that is crucial given the instability that threatens its Government in the State. Mr Jaganmohan Reddy until recently could sound credible when he claimed to have the power to bring down Mr Kiran Kumar Reddy’s Congress regime, but following the PRP’s merger with the party, that threat has abated for now. The Congress also has Mr Chiranjeevi’s fan associations to work in its favour. But perhaps more important than all this is the fact that the party has managed to neutralise a serious potential rival at a time when it faces attacks not just from various political adversaries but also within. Congress veterans, adept at ruthlessly manipulating individuals and situations, will find it easy to control a political novice like the former PRP chief, though they may not push him too hard in the beginning lest the film star walks out in a huff. The PRP’s dissolution has vacated political space in Andhra Pradesh that existing Opposition parties will scramble to occupy. The extent to which they succeed will determine not just their fate but also that of the Congress.

comment:

3 idiots"
By Paddy on 2/10/2011 12:29:24 PM

Congress planted "3 idiots" in 3 states.Chiru in Andhra, Vijaykanth in TN & MNS in Maharashtra.These 3 entities split the opposition votes & spoiled the 2009 election,

But for these 3 people, Congress & BJP would have got same level of seats & it could have even turned a blessing for NDA.

This time congress can never come to power in AP , if it is forced to dissolve.To avoid , the best idea was to pay "huge amount" to the actor in return to merger..simple

[Dasari]

There is a strong rumor (confirmed by TV5 discussions) that T state will be formed with Hyderabad as common capital. It also speculated that KCR will merge his party with Congress and the PRP merger is part of a much broader strategy. Even though some leaders of KCR denied this, KCR was conspicuously absent in denying the reports. What is going on?

[SwamyG]

Vijaykanth did not do much in TN.

[ShyamSP]

^^ That guy has no character. He proved himself a total con artist when he and Arvind took money, land and other assets from MLA aspirants. This stupid act shows how cheap and characterless Indians have become. He goes and kneels in front of the ITALIAN scum for what? for a few minister posts? Did he change his position telangana too now that he became a part of MAFIA?

Long back, I had expressed my own CT - Chiru was propped by INC.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 85#p795585

I made that statement in December 2009. Looks like my CT had some strength. "Long back" mutlab, I must have CTed some time in 2009.

During April-May '09 elections, it was clear that PRP (Chiru&his BIL) made money both from candidates seeking to contest and from Congress/YSR to jeopardize TDP. It was most likely YSR funded for this knick-knack job than Congress-funded. But now Chiru merged with Congress enraging Jagan (unless of course Jagan itself is another Op).

In the Telangana side TRS played spoiling by getting lion-share from TDP by playing brinkmanship with TDP around the nomination deadline and then by placing weak candidates and also selling seats. (Most likely YSR funded Op than Congress-funded).

These are not CTs except that we don't know who is brain behind or who funded those Ops. My take is Central Congress brain with YSR funding.

[kmkraoind]

There is a strong rumor (confirmed by TV5 discussions) that T state will be formed with Hyderabad as common capital. It also speculated that KCR will merge his party with Congress and the PRP merger is part of a much broader strategy. Even though some leaders of KCR denied this, KCR was conspicuously absent in denying the reports. What is going on?

If it is the case, Congress will loose in both regions. Because the fractured Hyderabad will seriously dent investments of Seemandhra folks, which angers these folks, which even 10 Chiranjeevis cannot manage. Regarding Telangana folks, they do not agree sharing Hyderabad (their prized asset, which they want a big pie from the boom) with Seemandhra folks. Remember the students agitation has been more active in Osmonia University, not the Kakaitiya University, which is in heart of Telangana.

[chalam]

People are reading too much into the conspiracy theories and the manchurian candidate idea. YSR was a master strategist who successfully pushed people into a corner; witness how CBN and KCR themselves were sidelined during his time. Chiru is no where in comparison to those folks. Crap from sites like greatandhra which writes unbelievably base rumors is too laughable. In spite of all the people turn out and fan following, lack of solid administrative skills and tactics was what caused PRP's downfall, case in point being the Parakala outburst. If there was any, it was him that was a manchurian candidate plugged in by YSR to bring down chiru. If Chiru was really hand in gloves with the congress during the last elections, he would not have lost his Palakollu election where he was simply outspent by YSR's chelas. It came very close in Tirupathi as well and if not for the TV publicised tours of election booths by chiru, he would have met the same fate in Tirupathi. YSR was not doing him any favors and was hell bent on destroying him politically.

As of now, merger was the best option with him losing control of most of his MLAs. He sitll has the charisma and the star power; notice the crowds that still throng to see him. But he obviously lacks the skills and money to convert that to votes. Congress power comes into picture here. I think he will recalibrate his position vis-a-vis Jagan's gain in strength and the decision on Telangana. If Jagan continues to be a strong player, chiru is better off retiring from politics around 2014 after giving congress the star power they now lack. And that whole saga about chiru minting money during last elections, tell me who does not take money for an election campaign? he simply had no clue how to manage the whole process and got slandered in the media. One of his biggest mistakes was not having any media house/newspaper supporting him. Day in and day out, ETV/NTV/TV9 were crushing him while supporting TDP; and Sakshi was obviously supporting congress and bringing him down. Chiru simply had no way of hitting back and got thoroughly maligned.

[SwamyG]

SwamyG, This is what Tagore was writing about "Where the mind is free..."

Greek philosophy is based on observation, deduction. Hindus add another Intution.

In modern lingo the first two are left brain and the other one a right brain activity.

So people dismissing things as CT are willfully killing their right brain activity. Now a whole industry of psychologists has developed to develop right brain activity using mind maps etc.

Tremendous coincidence. Last night I was watching a dialog between Robert Thurman and Deepak Chopra, set in 1999. It was about the similarities between Buddhism and Vedanta. Deepak read few poem excerpts from Tagore. Bob went on to talk about how West began its Renaissance by rediscovering Greece. And, for the West to complete its Renaissance it HAS TO rediscover India. The accolades he lavished through out the 90 mins was seen to be believed. They also talked about how Science has to catch with Vedanta and Buddhism.

You highlighted four areas above - Tagore, Greeks, Hindus and Science. And these stalwarts/celebrities discussed all these. Wow.

[ramana]

Thurman is Buddhist. While rediscovery of Greece led to Renaissance , discovery of India that led to Enlightenment. Voltarie etc owe their debt to discovery of Sanskrit texts and they acknowledge that.

There was German Prince who wrote about Akbar and that idea brought about the Westphalia state.

[SwamyG]

Yeah, I know. Uma Thurman's dad too Man, he did know what he was talking about. Of late I have developed a distaste for Deepak Chopra, but I have to admit he knew what he was talking too. Bob, thinks the West has still not rediscovered India.

[RamaY]

There is a strong rumor (confirmed by TV5 discussions) that T state will be formed with Hyderabad as common capital. It also speculated that KCR will merge his party with Congress and the PRP merger is part of a much broader strategy. Even though some leaders of KCR denied this, KCR was conspicuously absent in denying the reports. What is going on?

I too heard the same from reliable sources. Looks like three major communities decided to go back to their home lands and the corporates have decided to slowly move their operations to their areas.

Look out for these three corridors -
1. Nellore-Madras.
2. Vijayanagaram, Vishakhapattanam, and Srikakulam (Recently the tribal university is granted to this area instead of Odisha/Jarkhand). Purandhareswari is talking about an IIM for Vizag.
3. Coastal corridor - connecting East/west Godawaris, Krishna and Guntur. There are already a couple of port projects in progress.

Rumors are that Hyderabad RE will see a 40-50% correction.

[Muppalla]

T will not form if Hyderabad is NOT exclusively part of Telangana.Period. The only possibility is by selling a lemon that Hyd will be common capital until a new city is build for the other side with a year like 2020 or 2025 etc.

I say this is at best rumor and there are several impossibilites unless they really bring a consensus among all sections to seperate the regions. The trials using various baloons to bring consensus is the time where everything will breakdown.

This Hyd as common capital is being flouted only for one purpose - Kill T movement.

[Rupesh]

Voters Attitude Poll

The Politics party guy is predicting complete sweep by Jagan in coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema and NCB biting dust

[ramana]

Rupesh,
if the INC is going to lose like that in Andhra they will spilt Telangana in order to get something there.
Only thing is PP guy goes hyper and don't know how reliable is his data.

[Muppalla]

Though GreatAndhra site is gossip site, this could be correct.

Hyderabad, A Hurdle In T-Formation: KCR

Telangana Rashtra Samithi president K Chandrasekhar Rao on Sunday dropped a bombshell, saying that the status of Hyderabad could be a major hurdle in the way of formation of a separate Telangana state.

"Telangana state will be formed eventually. But, the UPA government may create a problem with regard to the status of Hyderabad," KCR said while speaking at a meeting organised by the employees of Telangana region.

The TRS president’s remark assumes significance in the backdrop of delay on the part of the Centre in taking a decision on the recommendations of the Justice B N Srikirshna Committee.

There are also reports that the Congress central leadership has opened a back-channel to negotiate with KCR and persuade him to agree for some kind of a compromise on the statehood issue. His dramatic announcement of TRS' plan to move a no-confidence motion against the Kiran Kumar Reddy government is also widely seen as a strategy to indirectly benefit the ruling party and embarrass the TDP.

However, KCR assured full cooperation to the Joint Action Committee of Telangana employees and said he would back the non-cooperation movement being launched from February 17. He said his party would not tolerate any action by the government against the Telangana employees participating in the non-cooperation movement.

So KCR is a proven pawn of congress party.

It is now a step-by-step process:
(1) Declare HYD as common capital and divede the state into two or three pieces
(2) There will be a large scale resentment in T and as a compromise persuade them to T-Councle with wider loot freedom.

However, going back to original plan of "kill TDP" (which the whole reason for T sentiment and new T agitation in AP), the objective will not be achieved unless the state is divided, there is still a possibility of state's divison.

People are getting fed up especially on the non-T side. I spoke to the real real staunch Unified-AP folks who are old and are fans of Late Potti Sriramulu types. Even they are saying that let the state be divided and get over with it. They see unified state operationaly may have diminishing returns with the continuous ambiguity that INC is really planning as a strategy. In the competetive world of getting investments etc,. ambiguity is only an extended loss is the view of several good and emotional folks too.

I see INC may be on the verge of achieving a goal. Glimpses of Robert Clive and division of Bengal.

[Yagnasri]

I wonder it is so easy for congress. KCR or T leaders will never agree for the common capital will in any event will be dominated by non Telangana people. Mainly Congress seems to be afraid of doing one more mistake like Dec 9 annoucement. Best thing is to drag the matter.

[suryag]

TRS goons manhandled LokSatta MLA JP in the Assembly premises today, driver of an MLA hit him in his head from behind. Such a sad day for democracy

[Venkarl]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA56inA_MxU[/youtube]

Please ignore comments

[Aditya_V]

TRS goons manhandled LokSatta MLA JP in the Assembly premises today, driver of an MLA hit him in his head from behind. Such a sad day for democracy

I have no sides on the Telegana Issue, but I think the Telegana Issue and TRS need to be Divorced, what whatever the people of Telegana, Hyderabad or Andhra, Rayalseema want. Goons who beat up others who disagree with them in the Assemby have no place in Democracy. The TRS MLA's should be suspended and Party Banned.

[ramana]

Hindu reports Unprecedented, violent protests rock Andhra Pradesh legislature

Very disturbing. Wonder why such resort to violence especially the Governor? The whole parties can be disbanded. Either extreme frustration or idiocy

[SriKumar]

TRS goons manhandled LokSatta MLA JP in the Assembly premises today, driver of an MLA hit him in his head from behind. Such a sad day for democracy

Met Dr. Jaya Prakash once at a seminar...... a cultured and thoughtful person incapable of inflicting physical harm on anyone. An anti-politician among politicians. Him being physically hit on the head is way beyond a sad day for democracy. It is the first step in the murder of democracy. If a goon can hit someone today for what views a persons holds (and I dont know JP's position on T), and is not punished, he/his backers know they can take it a step further tomorrow.

If someone like JP gets treated like this, what can one expect for the common man in the city.

Added later: He was surrounded and attacked by a bunch of TRS MLAs after JP condemned their attack on the Governor. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 518703.cms

[RamaY]

Ramana garu,

Remember the simulation 2nd round? YSJ is moving towards T-state demand. The next one to watch is MIM.

[Yagnasri]

I dont know about that. Last I heard on TV it is said his party has no stand on T issue. From the opinion polls (GOK who did it) Jagan will win about120, 130 seats and TDP and TDS will follow him with TRS performing very well in Telangana region. Congress is in the fourth place. I wonder if this is the idea that is creating fear for Italian gang. YSR/Jagan criminal gang need to be tackled first because it represent serious danger to INC in long term.

[ramana]

Jagan is like NCP. All the ills of INC misrule are erased and it will be his goons who partook of YSR system that will gain.

[Yagnasri]

Since 2004 when Sonia made YSR Cm of the state against their own convvension of making state party president (D Srinivas ) AP started going into goonda hands much faster. The allegation was that CBN has YSR father killed with the help of Paritala Ravi so that the goonda power of YSR is controlled. But once he became YSR his gang returned with full bang and now they are all over the place. Some of them are now with Congress and a lot of them are with Jagan. Small level goondas like KCR became big heros and now ready to beat up MLA in the assembly compound.

AP soon will replace Bihar.

[nvishal]

The funny sum up of the whole telangana argument

One of our bright and young Andhra guy star Babu goes to University in US for education and decides to stays in hostel, turns out his roommate Cotton Jr. is a great grandson of Sir Arthur Cotton, famous Britisher who built great dam on Godavari (Dawaleshwaram) and lot of canals. So our Babu genuinely gets excited and explains to Cotton Jr. (grandson) how prosperous they are because of what his great grandfather did and he is ready to do anything for him. Cotton Jr. gets embarrassed hearing “anything” But, nods in acceptance and says “Oh yeah, I am glad people still remember my great grandfather for what he did in madras state”. Babu is taken aback, does not like someone reminding him his past, keeps quiet though.

Cut:

So at the end of semester our Babu invites Cotton Jr. to visit his place to show what his great grandfather did to his area to which Cotton Jr. gladly accepts. Once they have landed in Hyderabad, Babu gives him a city tour and specifically Hitech city area even though Cotton Jr. wanted to see historic monuments and forts and says “We developed this city Otherwise It was nothing”. Cotton Replies “Babu, My last name is Cotton, That doesn’t mean you can put Cabbages in my ears”.

Cut:

In the evening @ hotel Babu turns on the TV and tunes into TV “NOW” and say’s watch OUR channel; Cotton Jr. had no clue why he was stressing out ‘OUR’ channel. Immediately a star MP who owns quite bit of real estate business in HYD is on TV “NOW” and starts blabbering how they have developed HYD in last 20 years and that they should own it. Watching this Babu had a closeup smile on his face.

Cotton Jr. asks what’s so funny, Babu explains about Telangana movement and how the leaders from their area are trying to crush it. From there, Conversation flows as follows.

Cotton Jr. : Don’t you think what you are rooting for is wrong? How can you be a part of system which is the reason for 369 innocent student deaths in 1969 and 600 more in 2010? Dont you have any humanity?
Babu : No, I don’t care, all I care about is my father’s business and our real estate.
Cotton Jr : How are your folks able to control such a huge movement?
Babu : We are following same rules book as your grandfather; We control media, politicians and even governor of this state with our money and any committees Govt. of India appoints.
Cotton Jr. : Really, How about elected representatives?
Babu : We control them too, Until recently, All the party heads were from our region. We deny the ticket if they don’t oblige.
Cotton Jr: How about educated youth from Telangana?
Babu: We created a self proclaimed reformer to take care of them, “Our Guy”(with beaming face) who’s idol is Winston Churchill is on our side. He branded the fighting students as ‘Terrorists’ just like how your grandfather regime used to do with Indian independence fighters by branding them as Terrorists and throwing them in jails.
Cotton Jr.: A Indian reformer, fan of Churchill, who called Gandhi as “Naked Fakir”, You must be kidding.
Babu: No Kidding. This is AP, He talks about constitution and democracy and comes to senses only when he hears “Jai Telangana” and from there our channels will take care.
Cotton Jr.: I hope he uses his knowledge for real upliftment and empowering the people.
Babu: Hope. I know you support Obama. (Laughs) . He is India’s Obama.
Cotton Jr.: Holy Cow !!!
Babu: No, He is sacred cow.
Cotton Jr. : Leave the cows. I read about Hyderabad history on Wikipedia it is existing and seventh richest country in the world even before your forefathers were planning to be born. So how come you are claiming it to be yours just by putting up some buildings in last 20 years?
Babu : Who cares about history and how developed it was even before we arrived here we just portray as if we created it. As is I said we control media we send out all wrong info to everywhere.
Cotton Jr. : But you were partying with us when Egypt got free from Mubarak’s hand, then how come you guys are doing the same thing to your own people?
Babu: That was not my problem so I was partying, but this is my problem since I own piece of land in Hyderabad.

Cut:

Cotton Jr. and Babu goes around in Andhra and visits all the dams and canals, Cotton is mesmerized seeing what his great grandfather did with will. He felt proud to be his great grand son.

Cotton Jr. borrows Babu’s phone to call UK. Babu hands out “IDEA” phone he does not know that (Oka Idea Jeevitanne Marchstundani). Cotton Jr. dialed out to his grandfather who lives in London.

Cotton Jr. : Hello grandpa
Cotton Sr. : Hello my grandson, how’s India? has it changed any bit from where we left off? Where you at?
Cotton Jr. : India has changed, Indian people did not. I am in Coastal Area of Andhra, part of madras you knew.
Cotton Sr.: I had no doubt. Even though we hear lot of good things around here, I have seen and played with some of them during my childhood in that area, they circumvent all rules, I am sure they corrupted supreme court judges by now.
Cotton Jr. : Grand Pa, your grand father, my great grand father, have ruled India for 200 years right? There are strange people living here they are claiming that by staying in a city for 20 years and building couple of buildings and flyovers which are not worth their cement with government money, they developed the city.
Cotton Sr. : How can that be?
Cotton Jr: Grandpa if these guys living in a city for 20 years are claiming to be theirs, how about our family claiming all the area’s which your grandfather have developed in 200 years to be yours including our Babu’s land since they are under the great dam you built.
Cotton Sr.: Grandson, I think your Friend is in fools paradise. Tell him he will meet the same fate as British did. Now, take the next flight and get your bum here. I don’t want you to roam with that Babu anymore.

Hearing this there was no sign of blood on our star Babu’s face. Cotton Jr. Handed over the IDEA phone with a glee on his face and headed towards hyderabad, City of Nawabs humming the song “Biryaani, Biryaani Hyderabad Biryaani” from movie Angrez.

Characters and Names are fictitious and any resemblance is unwarranted.

Writer: Vijay
Editor: Bharath

[RamaY]

Don’t you think what you are rooting for is wrong? How can you be a part of system which is the reason for 369 innocent student deaths in 1969 and 600 more in 2010? Dont you have any humanity?

Shouldn't we instead punish the "Great Leaders and Intellectuals" who instigated those riots and self-immolations that caused those 369+600 deaths, especially when they do not provide any roadmap for that region other than separate statehood?

We are following same rules book as your grandfather; We control media, politicians and even governor of this state with our money and any committees Govt. of India appoints

What type of alternative governance and control system one envisions in the proposed Telangana state?

We control them too, Until recently, All the party heads were from our region. We deny the ticket if they don’t oblige

How many INC, TDP, BJP, etc MLAs of Telangana region are from Andhra region? What about KCR, KTR, Harish Rao, Kavitha?

We created a self proclaimed reformer to take care of them, “Our Guy”(with beaming face) who’s idol is Winston Churchill is on our side. He branded the fighting students as ‘Terrorists’ just like how your grandfather regime used to do with Indian independence fighters by branding them as Terrorists and throwing them in jails.
Cotton Jr.: A Indian reformer, fan of Churchill, who called Gandhi as “Naked Fakir”, You must be kidding.

Yes, JP has colonized mind (and reaped the karma ) where are we are Dhimmis. We call another dictator, Nizam, as our idol. If

No Kidding. This is AP, He talks about constitution and democracy and comes to senses only when he hears “Jai Telangana” and from there our channels will take care.

On the other hand TRS wants to implement Maoist-Agenda; which is completely democratic and inclusive governance model.

I read about Hyderabad history on Wikipedia it is existing and seventh richest country in the world even before your forefathers were planning to be born. So how come you are claiming it to be yours just by putting up some buildings in last 20 years?

Dear junior cotton, just because you are a grandson of Arthur Cotton, you do not automatically become a great person and start building dams in some turd world, do you?

If you have any brain cells working in your knee, you would know that it was only the "rulers of Hyderabad", dictators of Telangana, who were seventh richest in the country; where as the entire populace is well below indian average when it comes to wealth and progress.

In fact that is the war-cry our Telanganites use in their demand for separate state hood. How could you miss that simple logic unlike our dhimmi vijay???

Grand Pa, your grand father, my great grand father, have ruled India for 200 years right? There are strange people living here they are claiming that by staying in a city for 20 years and building couple of buildings and flyovers which are not worth their cement with government money, they developed the city.

My dear grandson, that is called sense of entitlement on entire Rashtra. A dirt-poor indian living in a remote North Eastern village feels proud of and claims ownership in a LCA that is built in Bangalore. We, the britishers did not understand that simple truth because we ourselves are a civilization of thugs and colonizers.

That colonized mind, passed from generation to generation, is what makes us look for divisiveness in whatever we see. Hindu nationalists call that Dhimmitude when a native civilization was transformed by hundreds of years of Islamic rule and becomes unaware of its Indic roots and gets paranoid at their own brothers.


Added Later:

It will be purposeful for the discussion if the posters bring factual and logical root-causes of the problem and legitimate and feasible solutions. Posting some "yellow journalism" farticles in the name of debate and revolution is nothing but special nonsense.

TRS and its goondas are already talking about Egypt, Tunisia, Libya like revolutions to achieve Independent JK and Separate Telangana etc.,

What their dhimmi minds do not get is that those revolutions are by populous revolutions (if we want to call them) against dictators. Not a separate-statehood demand against a democratically elected governance system.

The democratic nature of Telangana MLAs and MPs is being observed for few months in AP assembly and Parliament.

[Yagnasri]

We are getting sick of hearing of the Amara Veerulu and people lost their lifes slogan. Suicides are becomming a great drama in AP. Some 9000 people kill themselfs in the state every year. All their relatives and local goons/politicos have to do is to convert it into a political suisides. Janag gang did started it when YSR died and now Telangana people are doing it. I have my own doubts about some of these deaths. But I dont think we will ever know the truth.

[unarayanadas]

Narayana Rao garu, one thing is for sure - and that is, only poor people sacrifice their lives. When YSR died, nothing happened to his grieving (?) family members; all of them were and are hale and healthy. But we are told that about 600 people keened in grief and died in shock! Similarly, even in the Telangana agitation the unfortunate students who sacrificed their lives were all from very poor families; none was from the family of a politician who is agitating for a separate state. This time around the protagonists of the separate state could convince the people at large that the formation of a separate state would be in their interest. Even middle class educated people seem to be sold on the idea. The truth of course is different. It will certainly help one family. Just as Karunanidhi's family has been the biggest beneficiary of the Dravidian movement in TN, the KCR family will be the biggest beneficiary of the Telangana movement.

[Yagnasri]

Actually we also need to take these claims of suicides with a pinch of salt. Just lie farmers suicides lot of people which lot of other reasons kiiled themselfs and their close family and politicos painted them as YSR suicide or T Vadi Suicide. No one is ready to counter these claims for the fear of being branded as heartless people. At least on suicide of a MCA student that said to have taken place in Jan 2010 is seriously doubtful because of the details reported. In many cases no details are even reported in the media. I wonder if there is any paralal in any movement as for as "Suicides" go.

As you have said only poor people will die for the rich leaders interests. If rumours are to be believed KCR has lot of ships purchased in binami names are running them from Gujarath. May be this is the reason for his closeness with BJP.

CBN is now asking is loyal people in Rayalaseema to press for voting on any Telangana resolution in the Assembly. We have to see how this demand turns out.

[unarayanadas]

In point of fact, if the Centre decides to bifurcate the state it does not require the concurrence of AP Assembly. CBN has fallen between two stools. His defection in 2009 was the trigger for all that happened later. Although it may be unpalatable to many, there may be a grain of truth in the NTV-AC Nielsen opinion poll after all. Angered by CBN's vacillation and Congress' perfidy, which people in Seema-Andhra might have seen as the real reasons for the present turmoil, they might have veered to Jagan. And one need not be a rocket scientist to gauge the mood of the people in Telengana.

[Dasari]

unarayanadas,

Can you tell what Jagan's position is? In parliament, not long ago, he went to speaker's podium with United AP playcards and slogans. A year later, the rumor is that he clandestinely supports separate T. In fact his dilly dallying on the new party announcement and Congress HC's continuous postponement of any resolution on separate T is a like cat and mouse game to see who buckles first.

At the end everybody is using separate T movement to their advantage to come to power. The biggest losers are the people of Andhra pradesh, mostly seemandhra people in the short term. A proper well thought out separation, at least would have sorted out all the logistics scientifically, including the future of Hyderabad. Now it appears the separation may come in haste, with one side in euphoria of total victory with no compulsion to negotiate and the other side still pretending that nothing is happening and SKC report will take care of everything.

[Yagnasri]

Parliament needs views of the AP Assembly as a must. Naturally it will be negative. After that there has to a decision in Parliament. In the present condition how for parties will be comfortable with division without state assembly consent is also a question no one is ready to ask. from what we here at least Mamata (and Pranab) DMK NC and NCP are not for the division. That is why cabinet committee on security only passed online statement asking for calm. We are all looking at AP level but thinking at the nation level we will see a different set of issues. The secret portion of the SKC report views of Home ministry on Naxals and even MIM are also factors. Telangana has 17 MP seats to gain and 25 in the rest of the AP so that is also a factor. So for the demands for division as shunted at local level. If division allowed in this case without assembly consent then every headache will be at Delhi and lot of unrest will be there in areas like Vidharbha, Goorkhaland, Jammu, Ladakh (Union Territory). The decision on these areas is to be taken at Delhi as per the if Telangana is allowed now. If demands are not met then problems will be there in all these areas.

[unarayanadas]

Jagan has only one position and that is to capture power. He has a mountain of ill-gotten wealth, earned courtesy his late father. That is how you and I see it. But the people of AP, perhaps have a different perspective, if the opinion polls are to be believed. You can't also put it past the wily Jagan to rig the poll or even to commission it in the first place. There is a rumour that he has considerable clout with a couple of news channels other than his own.

It is true people of Seema-Andhra especially those in Hyderabad have a tough time. It may be best if the issue is resolved one way or the other, perhaps bifurcating the state and making Hyderabad the common capital till, say 2025 by which time the new state can build its capital at a place conveniently accessed from the two regions.

[Yagnasri]

It is not just money. There is a serious anger in the people that INC has destroyed the state for its political gains. Jagan will be in a position to cash in the same. Further there is a lot of people who got benifited by the Robinhood actions of YSR and will be looking to Jagan. His goondas are almost every where in the state now. Lot of money is there. So lot of helping points.

If any decision of bifercation is taken INC leaders in non telengana will be left with no option to leave congress and join Jagan to save themleves because having resigned enmass on 10th Dec 2010 and after getting SKC report favourable if they keep quite then they will be politically wipped off for ever in any election by all kind of goondas comming from Jagan party. At the same time congress even after division with no charismatic leader to counter KCR will be wipped off in Telangana also. So at present division means death for congress in AP and that is the main probelm.

They are looking to keep AP so they have to drag the matter for now.

[Dasari]

Narayana Rao garu,

Jagan can capitalize this, only if he sticks to United AP platform. If there is one thing that is undisputed of YSR's legacy, it is his stance on united AP. Congress, TDP, BJP may accuse Jagan on many fronts, but not on the united AP issue. Jagan can package all issues as problem child of T separation, provided his own stance on united AP is unwavering. Any flip flop on it will nullify any advantage he has.

Therefore, before they make any move, Congress HC will wait until he announces his party and state his position on separate T. Jagan in turn is hoping that congress will be forced to announce separate T and he never needs to reveal his position on separate T. The rumor is that he came to an agreement with KCR on this and in return he will maintain silence on this issue. No where else we have this kind of disgusting politics. We have to see who will blink first.

[Yagnasri]

The probolem is not just with AP but with more danger areas like Jammu wherein BJP like parties have their own agendas. Hope there are no serious issues with stupid ideas.

[RamaY]

Cine writer Tanikella Bharani wrote a Siva Stotram in telangana language

http://telugu.greatandhra.com/cinema/1- ... 02_bha.php

It proves that telangana telugu (unlike our [sic] seculars who start in 1947, for this group history of telangana starts at Islamic rule) is nothing but telugu mixed with urdu.

I wish they are fighting for their Kakatiya kingdom. People take offense when I call t-vadi culture is nothing but dhimmitude.