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China activist Chen Guangcheng 'under house arrest'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12413660
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12413660
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... ?tag=strip
Michele Bachmann: China's Hu is "Your Daddy"
Michele Bachmann: China's Hu is "Your Daddy"
THis is the group which will break the China trade lobbyWASHINGTON -- Conservative Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann opened the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington Thursday with a speech focused on America's debt - and specifically the money owed to "friendly Chinese bankers" and Chinese President Hu Jintao.
"With all the money that we owe China, I think you might correctly say, Hu's your daddy," she quipped.
Bachmann told an audience of enthusiastic conservative activists that "we have seen President Obama usher in socialism under his watch over the last two years." She said the health care law passed last year is the "crown jewel of socialism" and said repealing it "is the motivation of my life."
Bachmann, who is considering a presidential campaign, has aligned herself closely with the Tea Party movement, having founded the Tea Party caucus in the House and offered a "Tea Party rersponse" to President Obama's State of the Union address. She opened her speech with a reference to that speech, over which she was mocked for not looking directly at the camera.
"Someone told me I needed to find the right camera, so there it is," she said.
Bachmann offered red meat to her young audience at the conference, a cattle call for GOP presidential contenders that had about 11,000 registered attendees. She repeatedly referenced the socialism she ascribed to the Obama administration, calling it a "formula for destruction of job creation," and warned that her audience could soon be paying a 75 percent tax rate to cover the nation's debts.
"Socialism might sell well in a Harvard faculty lounge, but when it comes to finding a job, not so much, not so much," she said.
"The most egregious moral wrong of all is that today's government is intentionally consuming the labor of future Americans that aren't even born," she added. "...no generation has been more selfish than the current generation that is running Washington DC."
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
I just posted the following comment below this article:Philip wrote:The "Diplomat" says that US drones can trump the PLAFs J-20 stealth.
http://the-diplomat.com/2011/02/07/us-d ... dium=email
Why go to war when things can be accomplished without firing a single bullet. Pakistan military backed regime (and its child the Taliban), the real terror central is propped up by PRC, just to bleed the US economically. Just like Ron Paul says, all the bases should be closed in foreign countries in phases and all the wars or compromises should be left to regional players to deal with. The Empire must withdraw, stop its over stretch and become a strong republic. To defeat PR of China, all is needed is to pass a law that says that any country that is not a multi-party democracy or have a true representative government should loose all privilege to US market access. EU should follow suit together with other allies in G20, including Japan, Korea, India, Brazil and the rest. Any country that does not follow this conditional market-access law, should be sanctioned and put under the same law. Finally this law should be enshrined in WTO. Then this law should be applied to the last remaining totalitarian regimes starting with PRC, North Korea, Burma and the Tin Pots in Mid-east, who seem to be on their way to be driven out by people power. This law will give a long needed boost to people power where the regimes are way too powerful and entrenched.
The hypocrisy of the world capitalist regime that preaches about democracy and human-rights, but uses and rewards totalitarian brutal repressive regimes, in the name of development, but for the real reason of lining corporate shareholder pockets, must come to an end.
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Why China Should Worry About Egypt
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/ ... bout-egypt
China supports Egypt's efforts to maintain social stability
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 726176.htm
From Tahrir to Tiananmen: Is China the Next Egypt?
http://www.bnet.com/blog/financial-busi ... gypt/10578
Arab upheaval sends a shockwave to China
http://www.smh.com.au/world/arab-upheav ... rom=smh_sb
Analysis: Obama camp aims to steal a march on rival China
Premium Article !
http://news.scotsman.com/news/Analysis- ... 6714201.jp
China blocks 'Egypt' from Internet for fear of Tiananmen
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx ... n&id=29068
Have the democratic people in China lost interest and momentum?
Where are the Chinese people who wanted to rule themselves rather than to be ruled by a red alien army?
When democracy arrives in China it will grow to be a giant and wealthy and peaceloving to her nighbours and also possibly the North Korean regime will dissolve itself. Much of the Asian problems will be solved and regional cooperation will be excellent.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/ ... bout-egypt
China supports Egypt's efforts to maintain social stability
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 726176.htm
From Tahrir to Tiananmen: Is China the Next Egypt?
http://www.bnet.com/blog/financial-busi ... gypt/10578
Arab upheaval sends a shockwave to China
http://www.smh.com.au/world/arab-upheav ... rom=smh_sb
Analysis: Obama camp aims to steal a march on rival China
Premium Article !
http://news.scotsman.com/news/Analysis- ... 6714201.jp
China blocks 'Egypt' from Internet for fear of Tiananmen
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx ... n&id=29068
Have the democratic people in China lost interest and momentum?
Where are the Chinese people who wanted to rule themselves rather than to be ruled by a red alien army?
When democracy arrives in China it will grow to be a giant and wealthy and peaceloving to her nighbours and also possibly the North Korean regime will dissolve itself. Much of the Asian problems will be solved and regional cooperation will be excellent.
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Chinese Communist Party sees India as part of US 'containment strategy'
China's Communist Party has expressed concern at the country's neighbours, including India, being drawn into a United States-led “anti-China alliance,” suggesting a seven-step strategy, from using China's economic clout better to building new alliances to counter American influence in the region.
An article published in the latest issue of Qiushi (Seek Truth), party's official magazine and an influential journal that is circulated among its members, called for a review of China's foreign policy and for the country to come up with an adequate response to new challenges posed by the U.S.
Last year has been seen by many in China as a particularly testing period for its diplomacy, with rising tensions with many of its neighbours and concerns at the U.S.'s renewed engagement in the Asia-Pacific.
“The U.S. seems highly interested in forming a very strong anti-China alliance. It not only made a high-profile announcement of its return to East Asia but also claimed to lead in Asia,” said the article, whose author was named as Xu Yunhong.
“What is especially unbearable is how the U.S. blatantly encourages China's neighbouring countries to go against China,” it added.
“Countries like Japan, India, Vietnam, Australia, the Philippines, Indonesia, and Korea are trying to join the anti-China group because they either had a war or another conflict of interest with China.”
The journal is perhaps China's most influential publication on policy issues, published by the Communist Party and often used to articulate policy positions in clearer terms than the diplomatic language used by government officials.
While it remains unclear whether the article reflected the government's views, many Chinese strategists in official think-tanks have increasingly voiced similar anxieties about the U.S. attempting to “contain” a rising China by courting its neighbours.
Many of China's neighbours, including Japan and even Vietnam, have recently sought closer military alliances with the U.S., blaming an increasingly assertive Chinese military for creating tensions. Last year saw territorial disputes between China and several of its neighbours resurface. China's relations with Japan deteriorated over disputes over islands in the East China Sea, while new Chinese claims over the entire South China Sea triggered concerns among its South-East Asian neighbours.
India, too, has been increasingly perceived by some strategists in China — particularly in military circles — as moving closer to the U.S. and as a key element in this supposed “containment” strategy.
The article said, “The probability for India to cooperate with China is also not great,” referring to the potential for the two countries to work together on economic issues to counter the U.S.
“India has stayed closely allied with the U.S. in recent years, and [U.S. President Barack] Obama promised to support India for a permanent membership in the UNSC [United Nations Security Council],” it said.
“India's purchasing power of foreign exchange reserves is very limited anyway, so it cannot influence the overall situation much,” it added, suggesting China needed to use its economic clout to challenge the dominance of the U.S. currency.
U.S. measures
The article, which was translated by the website Chinascope, identified six measures used by the U.S. to contain China: trade war, an exchange rate war, a public opinion war, military exercises, an anti-China campaign and developing alliances with neighbours.
It called for a seven-pronged response, from using China's rising economic influence and better-organised military exercises to building alliances with countries that were not close to the U.S., with a focus on Europe and South America. “What is the most powerful weapon China has today? It is our economic power, especially our foreign exchange reserves. The key is to use it well,” it suggested.
China needed “to send a clear signal to our neighbouring countries that we don't fear war, and we are prepared at any time to go to war to safeguard our national interests.”
China's neighbours, it added, needed “China's international trade more than China needs them.” China's economic strength was “the most effective means to avoid a war.”
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What is especially unbearable is how the China blatantly encourages India's neighbouring countries to go against India,”SSridhar wrote: India sees China as part of Pakistan 'containment strategy'
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
And also side with the US to contain India. We have proof of the condescending tone in which Mao & Zhou referred to India, how Kissinger encouraged the Chinese to attack India, how the US asked the Chinese to be the hegemon for South Asia, how China was given the role by Clinton to respond to Indian nuclear tests, the disparaging joint statement by Clinton & Jiang Zemin about Indian tests etc. How come when the Americans allowed high-technology transfers to China while still maintaining a very tight leash on India, it was all right and suddenly India-US relationship becomes threatening ?Acharya wrote:What is especially unbearable is how the China blatantly encourages India's neighbouring countries to go against India,”SSridhar wrote: India sees China as part of Pakistan 'containment strategy'
And China has been at it for five decades now.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Is this a good place for this article? If not, I will move it elsewhere
Global Energy Industry Hit In “Night Dragon” Attacks
..I want to highlight one large scale attack that is a clear example of how cybercrime has evolved from something of a hobbyist affair to a very professional activity. We call this specific attack “Night Dragon.”
Starting in November 2009, covert cyberattacks were launched against several global oil, energy, and petrochemical companies. The attackers targeted proprietary operations and project-financing information on oil and gas field bids and operations. This information is highly sensitive and can make or break multibillion dollar deals in this extremely competitive industry.
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We have strong evidence suggesting that the attackers were based in China. The tools, techniques, and network activities used in these attacks originate primarily in China. These tools are widely available on the Chinese Web forums and tend to be used extensively by Chinese hacker groups.
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Well-coordinated, targeted attacks such as Night Dragon, orchestrated by a growing group of malicious attackers committed to their targets, are rapidly on the rise. These targets have now moved beyond the defense industrial base, government, and military computers to include global corporate and commercial targets.
Global Energy Industry Hit In “Night Dragon” Attacks
..I want to highlight one large scale attack that is a clear example of how cybercrime has evolved from something of a hobbyist affair to a very professional activity. We call this specific attack “Night Dragon.”
Starting in November 2009, covert cyberattacks were launched against several global oil, energy, and petrochemical companies. The attackers targeted proprietary operations and project-financing information on oil and gas field bids and operations. This information is highly sensitive and can make or break multibillion dollar deals in this extremely competitive industry.
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We have strong evidence suggesting that the attackers were based in China. The tools, techniques, and network activities used in these attacks originate primarily in China. These tools are widely available on the Chinese Web forums and tend to be used extensively by Chinese hacker groups.
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Well-coordinated, targeted attacks such as Night Dragon, orchestrated by a growing group of malicious attackers committed to their targets, are rapidly on the rise. These targets have now moved beyond the defense industrial base, government, and military computers to include global corporate and commercial targets.
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Egypt talk eludes China's Web police
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 52608.html
Beijing looks warily at Egypt uprising
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 1862.story
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 52608.html
Beijing looks warily at Egypt uprising
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 1862.story
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Decades ago India's RITES was renowned across Africa,developing NAM nations,etc. for excellent rail projects.I know of some senior rly. officers who handled these projects too.What happened? We now have the Chinese swooping all across the globe replacing India ,even in Lanka just on our doorstep,where thanks to the cretinous MEA and babudom,it takes years to approve of a project (Kankesanturai) during which time the Chinese have even built the new massive Hanbantota project.It is tragic that the uPA era has been the most dismal of any Indian govt. since Independence in the conduct of foreign affairs,where we have abjectly surrendered the massive goodwill and prestige that Indira Gandhi established,carrying on Nehru's huge international standing and India's lead in the NAM movement and stature in world affairs.Do not be surprised if a future canal/similar rail link through the Thai isthmus arrives,dispensing with the Malacca Straits (apart from the huge pipeline to Burmese ports to be leased to China) courtesy the PRC!
Having lost Africa to the Chinese,India now stands to lose whatever influence it had with even Central and S.America,thanks to our myopic MEA,lack of strategic thinking by the security establishment and ignoramus leadership from the very top.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ombia.html
Panama Canal rail alternative built by China considered by Colombia
A 136 mile rail alternative to the Panama Canal built by China is being considered by Colombia in a move that would boost trade between Asia and South America.
Having lost Africa to the Chinese,India now stands to lose whatever influence it had with even Central and S.America,thanks to our myopic MEA,lack of strategic thinking by the security establishment and ignoramus leadership from the very top.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ombia.html
Panama Canal rail alternative built by China considered by Colombia
A 136 mile rail alternative to the Panama Canal built by China is being considered by Colombia in a move that would boost trade between Asia and South America.
By Our Foreign Staff 6:10AM GMT 14 Feb 2011
The 'dry canal' would link Colombia's Atlantic and Pacific coasts by rail, according to Juan Manuel Santos, the president of Colombia.
"It's a real proposal... and it is quite advanced," he told The Financial Times. "I don't want to create exaggerated expectations, but it makes a lot of sense."
The project is one of several Chinese proposals designed to help boost transport links between the two continents.
It is also hoped the rail link would help encourage the US to ratify a four-year-old free-trade agreement. Agreements with Colombia and Panama, which would eliminate most tariffs for both countries, have stalled since they were signed in 2006 and 2007.
The Panama canal represents roughly 5 percent of world trade, with 13,000 to 14,000 ships passing through it every year.
Panama Canal closed due to deadly floods 09 Dec 2010
Panama canal widening raises fears about tolls 19 Aug 2009
Sino-Colombian trade stood at more than $5 billion in 2010, making China Colombia's biggest trade partner, after the US.
"Colombia has a very important strategic position, and we view the ocuntry as a port to the rest of Latin America," Gao Zhengyue, China's ambassador to Colombia, told the newspaper.
The report also said talks are most advanced over a 491 mile railway and expansion of the port of Buenaventura.
The £4.7 billion project is funded by the Chinese Development Bank and operated by China Railway Group.
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China limits media reports and puts focus on stability
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 37763.html
China can attack India by 2014
http://english.samaylive.com/nation-new ... -2014.html
Plans on track, China rail link to stretch to near Sikkim border
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Plans ... der/749733
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 37763.html
China can attack India by 2014
http://english.samaylive.com/nation-new ... -2014.html
Plans on track, China rail link to stretch to near Sikkim border
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Plans ... der/749733
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[quote="Philip"][/quote]
Philip ji,
all the goodwill evoporated with 62 defeat.
You cannot have goodwill outside if one cannot sort out your own house and its neighbours.
The boxing of India was completed with 62 defeat and 65 stalemate. We are yet to come out of this straitjacket.
Philip ji,
all the goodwill evoporated with 62 defeat.
You cannot have goodwill outside if one cannot sort out your own house and its neighbours.
The boxing of India was completed with 62 defeat and 65 stalemate. We are yet to come out of this straitjacket.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
^^ Philip, We cannot build a bloody footbridge properly without causing national shame, who is going to take us seriously.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
It appears that the denizens of Zhongnanhai are having sleepless nights over the distant sand storms that are currently sweeping the deserts of North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. The impact of the events that unfolded in Tahrir Square is not lost on those who faced a similiar situation in Tiananmen Square.
The Chinese paradigm of stability over all else can and will be challenged. The leadership there knows it and more so the PLA leadership. The jittery pronouncments made by some of their smoke screen persons of late that they fear a ganging up of powers that includes India against them and that they will not hesitate to fight, is a reaction and indication that they are jittery and nervous.
Shorn of their usual bravado, the Chinese are nervous about their prospects of breaking into the super power ranks. It is also an indication that the modern Chinese Nation State is still work in progress and their hold on the people is still tenous. Undeneath the veneer of super success lies an uneasy and unsure leadership.
The Chinese paradigm of stability over all else can and will be challenged. The leadership there knows it and more so the PLA leadership. The jittery pronouncments made by some of their smoke screen persons of late that they fear a ganging up of powers that includes India against them and that they will not hesitate to fight, is a reaction and indication that they are jittery and nervous.
Shorn of their usual bravado, the Chinese are nervous about their prospects of breaking into the super power ranks. It is also an indication that the modern Chinese Nation State is still work in progress and their hold on the people is still tenous. Undeneath the veneer of super success lies an uneasy and unsure leadership.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
China Cracks Down On Uprising Chatter
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 52608.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 52608.html
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Guys,RITES have done in ther past many excellent contracts worldwide in developing nations.The problem is that the current dispensation is so blinkered,butler fashion,that serving the so-called "sole superpower's" interests.,so that we might feast on the crumbs from his table,is the only thought in our mute leadership.When the Foreign Minister cannot even differentitate between his speech and that of the Portugese ambassador's,that too after reading it for 3+ minutes,it indicates that he has not read it,has not understood what it contains and is either or both the mere mouthpiece and nether end of the ruling clique!
India does have the expertise but lacks the political will to raise the image of the country beyond that of a domestic servant,thanks to the current dispensation of Br.(Butler) Man Mubarak Singh.
India does have the expertise but lacks the political will to raise the image of the country beyond that of a domestic servant,thanks to the current dispensation of Br.(Butler) Man Mubarak Singh.
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China cocks its ear to Arab freedom cry
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ ... 1atp0.html
Peddling flowers, democracy
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArti ... on=opinion
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ ... 1atp0.html
Peddling flowers, democracy
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArti ... on=opinion
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Hmm.... not in this drone infested thread, saar!VikasRaina wrote:^^ Philip, We cannot build a bloody footbridge properly without causing national shame, who is going to take us seriously.
Things like Delhi Metro, Delhi T3, Bandra-Worli and Golden Quad etc are a tad tougher than a "bloody footbridge". Indian construction quality has been delinked from other finer aspects of public life like corruption to a great extent. Most of the recent big projects' finances are


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China doesn't favour G4 call on UNSC reforms
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/15/stories ... 071200.htm
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/15/stories ... 071200.htm
While China was not in favour of a move by the G4 group of nations — India, Brazil, Germany and Japan — to push for a concrete outcome on United Nations Security Council reforms in the current General Assembly session, it is unlikely to oppose India's bid when the reforms process comes to a vote, according to analysts and officials here.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Lessons from Tahrir to Tiananmen
By Francesco Sisci
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MB17Ad01.html
Chinese activists inspired by Egypt protests
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... ws-Feature
By Francesco Sisci
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MB17Ad01.html
Chinese activists inspired by Egypt protests
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... ws-Feature
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Egypt's uprising may one day extend to China
http://www.mysinchew.com/node/53387
In China, no news of Egypt protests
http://www.pri.org/world/asia/in-china- ... s2623.html
http://www.mysinchew.com/node/53387
In China, no news of Egypt protests
http://www.pri.org/world/asia/in-china- ... s2623.html
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Hindustan times e-paper
Charm defensive
China knows it must have better ties with India. But accepting the legitimacy of India's ambitions is hard for Beijing, writes JOHN LEE DEMOCRATIC INDIA ENJOYS ADVANTAGES THAT AUTHORI TARIAN CHINA DOES NOT.
CHINA FUMED AT THE EASE WITH WHICH THE US WAS ABLE TO EMBRACE INDIA AS A LEGITIMATE NUCLEAR POWER AFTER DECADES OF DIPLOMATIC HOSTILITY
In a recent security conference in Washington, a Chinese delegate caused an awkward silence among the congenial group at a post-event drinks session when he stated that India was “an undisciplined country where the plague and leprosy still exist. How a big, dirty country like that can rise so quickly amazed us“. It is this Chinese sentiment of disdain and also grudging admiration that explains much of Beijing's attitude towards New Delhi. Indeed, one needs to go beyond strategic and military competition to understand the depth of rivalry between Asia's two rising giants.
China shares land borders with 14 countries. Over the past 30 years, it has made concerted attempts to improve relationships with all of them by settling border disputes.
In the case of Russia, China granted significant concessions in order to improve its relationship with Moscow. But the one exception is India. Outstanding disputes such as the one over the Switzerland-sized area of Arunachal Pradesh continue to bedevil relations. China's militarisation of the Tibetan plateau -including placing a third of its nuclear arsenal in that region -is a direct challenge to Indian sensibilities. Indeed, India is the only country not formally covered by China's `no first use' nuclear policy. Add to these the growing naval rivalry in the Indian Ocean that is driven by resource competition and insecurity and we have what Chinese leaders openly admit to be a “very difficult relationship“ with India. These factors point to the persistence of the IndiaChina rivalry. But they do not fully explain why Beijing has made little effort to work towards settlement of these disputes with New Delhi, as it has with its other land-based neighbours. A more complete explanation needs to take into account the non-material factors behind China's strategic rivalry with India.
The first factor is one of shock and surprise at India's continued rise. Until the late 1990s, people at the highest levels in China were dismissing India's prospects. It was only early this century that China abandoned viewing India through the lens of the 1962 war when Indian forces were decimated and New Delhi humiliated. Because Indian national scars and weaknesses are there for all to see, little is hidden or explained away. China met India's re-emergence initially with disbelief, then with disdain, and now with wariness. Beijing does not react calmly to strategic surprises and its gruff response to Indian ambitions in Asia is evidence that Beijing is yet to determine a grand strategic response to India's re-emergence.
Second, Chinese leaders view the region in hierarchical terms. And the hierarchy is not just based on economic and military benchmarks but also on culture and history. The Chinese see the idea of Asia as having a Chinese core with a number of cultures and polities in the periphery. They call themselves the `Middle Kingdom' for a reason.
Hence, they see little room for another culture and civilisation with equally big historical claims in their concept of Asia. In East and Southeast Asia, Indian culture and civilisation plays second fiddle to Chinese culture and civilisation. But in south and central Asia, Indian cultural influence and `soft power' far exceeds China's. As the other great foundational civilisation in Asia, India presents a unique challenge to China that other big Asian powers such as Japan do not. Hence, just as China demands `respect' from the West, Beijing will have grave difficulty accepting that there is another big country also driven by a sense of its enduring civilisation on its doorstep.
Third, as much as both countries will seek to deny it, there is an ideological contest taking place between the rise of authoritarian China and democratic India. The traditional Chinese response to Western expectations that it pursue political reform is to point out that democratic politics would derail the economic progress of such a big, developing country. India is a direct contradiction of this reasoning.
Moreover, democratic India enjoys advantages that authoritarian China does not. For example, China silently fumed at the ease with which the United States was able to embrace India as a legitimate nuclear power after decades of diplomatic hostility. The rapid improvement in military-to-military relationships between India and countries such as America, Japan and Indonesia exceed the progress of such relationships with China -despite 15 years of a Chinese `charm offensive'. As Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, himself not a noted democrat, has observed, few countries in East and Southeast Asia fear India's rise even as they remain wary of China's.
Finally, as far as the Chinese are concerned, India has something which few other democracies in Asia have: a preparedness to go to war. This immeasurable national and political characteristic is highly respected by the Chinese.
That such a potentially big country like India has it greatly concerns Beijing.
In a sense, these are compelling reasons why China should want to construct a better relationship with India. Its strategists know this. But fundamentally accepting the legitimacy of India's rise -and therefore its ambitions -is the harder task for Beijing.
John Lee is a research fellow at the Centre for Independent Studies, Sydney, and the Hudson Institute, Washington DC The views expressed by the author are personal
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full
How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yuan ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel laureate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon announce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter national science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
Some prizewinners may be salivating, but at least one prominent Chinese-American scientist aware of the new program blasts it as a massive waste of resources. “It is better to invest in a whole new generation of talent than to buy reputation,” says David Ho, director of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center (ADARC) in New York City. “Someone should step up and put an end to this folly.”
The initiative will be a new component of the Chinese government's Recruitment Program of Global Experts, commonly known as Qianren Jihua. Launched in 2008 with the goal of recruiting up to 2000 experts from abroad over 5 to 10 years (Science, 31 July 2009, p. 534), the program so far has tallied 1143 recipients, including 880 “innovative talents” to work at universities and research institutes. The rest are “entrepreneurial talents” recruited to run high-tech companies.
Despite Qianren Jihua's impressive numbers, many observers say the program is foundering. Initially, it mandated that awardees spend 6 to 9 months a year in China for a minimum of 3 years. Most recruits, however, have not signed contracts or moved to China, says Li Ning, a public policy researcher at the University of Guam. The main reason awardees give for not having signed contracts is that they haven't received start-up funds.
Qianren Jihua “is a huge disaster right now,” claims Mu-ming Poo, part-time director of the Institute of Neuroscience of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) in Shanghai. That sentiment is shared by many contributors to blog sites on Chinese science.
The new component dubbed “Top Qianren” is likely to make the program even more controversial. Its first catch, sources say, is 78-year-old French virologist Luc Montagnier, who won the 2008 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine for co-discovering HIV. Shanghai Jiaotong University recruited Montagnier, who intends to lead research into electromagnetic radiation from highly diluted pathogen DNA (Science, 24 December 2010, p. 1732), a phenomenon that many scientists dismiss out of hand. University President Zhang Jie and Montagnier did not respond to messages before Science went to press.
In the original Qianren Jihua, the program's sponsor, the Organization Department of the Chinese Communist Party's Central Committee (Zhongzubu), provides each recruit with a $150,000 tax-free relocation allowance. Beyond this subsidy, awardees must negotiate salaries and start-up packages with recruiters. Eager to please Zhongzubu, university and institute officials routinely dangle start-up funds of $1.5 million or more to entice candidates—then fail to deliver, says Xu Ruiming, a structural biologist at CAS's Institute of Biophysics in Beijing. Xiao-Fan Wang, a cancer researcher at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, says some Qianren recipients “sincerely wanted to go back but have to reconsider when they see no research funding.”
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Most of these awardees cannot spend six or more months in China, as the program envisioned, without reducing the commitment to their current employers. To accommodate them, Zhongzubu created a Qianren category last year that allows recipients to spend as little as 2 months a year in China. The government expects fewer than 100 awardees each year to choose the short-term category, says Zhang.
The failure to land many big fish has prompted Zhongzubu to cast for small fry. Last month, the government launched Young Qianren Jihua, which over the next 5 years aims to recruit from overseas 2000 researchers under age 40. The government will provide young recipients with a relocation allowance of about $75,000 and research funds ranging from $152,000 to $456,000 over 3 years. Requirements include Ph.D.s obtained from foreign universities and overseas work experience of 3 years or more.
At 1000 or so pay grades higher will be the Nobel laureates and other elites who accept a Top Qianr en award. They'll never have to worry about funding again.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
China opposes India's call for quick UNSC reforms
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/china ... ms/751286/
China keen to promote trade ties with Pakistan: Minister Yu Jian
http://www.brecorder.com/pakistan/busin ... -jian.html
China quashes Twitter-style democracy
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6007578963
The lighter side of the Tibet issue
Waiting for the Dalai Lama: Stories from all sides of the Tibetan Debate by Annelie Rozeboom
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MB19Ad01.html
India threatened by China's Military
http://www.news.com.au/world/india-thre ... 6007279583
A clear case against India in UNSC. A clear support to Pakistan. A clear eliminator of her own people who wants democracy. A clear cleanser of Tibetian people. Is this time to avoid buying Chinese goods in our country? I am not calling for a complete boycott of Chinese goods? But India needs to take seriously these issues.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/china ... ms/751286/
China keen to promote trade ties with Pakistan: Minister Yu Jian
http://www.brecorder.com/pakistan/busin ... -jian.html
China quashes Twitter-style democracy
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6007578963
The lighter side of the Tibet issue
Waiting for the Dalai Lama: Stories from all sides of the Tibetan Debate by Annelie Rozeboom
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MB19Ad01.html
India threatened by China's Military
http://www.news.com.au/world/india-thre ... 6007279583
A clear case against India in UNSC. A clear support to Pakistan. A clear eliminator of her own people who wants democracy. A clear cleanser of Tibetian people. Is this time to avoid buying Chinese goods in our country? I am not calling for a complete boycott of Chinese goods? But India needs to take seriously these issues.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
China Deletes Egypt Song
http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/s ... 34115.html
Egypt uprising gives China's regime pause on freedoms
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011 ... 8_ST_N.htm
China and Clinton clash on freedom of the Internet
http://www.hindustantimes.com/China-and ... 63731.aspx
http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/s ... 34115.html
Egypt uprising gives China's regime pause on freedoms
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011 ... 8_ST_N.htm
China and Clinton clash on freedom of the Internet
http://www.hindustantimes.com/China-and ... 63731.aspx
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Cross posting from Managing Chinese Threat
Three Dimensionality in Chinese Views on India and Space
The above 30 minute video is from a researcher at the James Martin Center For Nonproliferation Studies at Monterey Institute of International Studies - a graduate school of Middlebury College in Monterey, California, USA. This video is an indepth look at how China views India.
Some of the notable points from the video I have given below
The problem with this presentation is the asymetrical nature of the political systems. While in India one would get away with speaking anything the same is not the case in China. So this background has to be kept in mind before any conclusions are drawn from this video or the salient points that I have mentioned above.
Three Dimensionality in Chinese Views on India and Space
The above 30 minute video is from a researcher at the James Martin Center For Nonproliferation Studies at Monterey Institute of International Studies - a graduate school of Middlebury College in Monterey, California, USA. This video is an indepth look at how China views India.
Some of the notable points from the video I have given below
- Majority of the focus on India is in the academic journals very little in strategic journals. Though it is increasing in the strategic journals
- There seems to be a steady de-hyphening of India-Pakistan.
- Chinese are either dismissive of India, by talking about the "Great power dream" or by characterizing India as a "Petulant child"
- The researcher has expressed surprise about anger and vituperation against china in India, especially in seminars and discussions. This is in contrast to the non charged vocabulary coming out of china unlike india. Please note that this refers only to the publications from academic and strategic circles only. It does not refer to forums like bharat-rakshak or indiadefence or globaltimes, etc.
- Chinese ASAT was being used as justification in india for a asat programme of her own.
- Chinese view their ASAT capability in terms of being pushed towards it as russia and us have long standing asat capabilities or programs.
- Chinese also view their ASAT capability as a means to get the Americans to return to the conference of disarmament. Or to make Americans treat them at-par with russia or as an equal of America.
- Chinese are surprised at the lack of interaction with India. In most indo-china conferences most of the academics come from china, but from india most of the strategist come. So there is a discordant note, as the academic will come with a different viewpoint rather than the strategist.
- A number of chinese academic personnel have trouble getting visas to come to India. Not only in scientific community but across the board. From India the problem of stapled visas, arunachal pradesh, etc rear their head.
- Stability and cooperation. There is a lot talk about this in China. Pity the researcher did not elaborate.
- While there is growing spotlight on India, it has more to do with indo-us relationship. the interest has always peaked when clinton came to India, when the indo-us nuke deal was discussed, with obama visited India. In other words it is Indo-US combine which concerns them not India per-se as such.
- We tend to group all the views as unidirectional view. But there are significant pockets of views on India in china. Pockets whose views are varied.
The problem with this presentation is the asymetrical nature of the political systems. While in India one would get away with speaking anything the same is not the case in China. So this background has to be kept in mind before any conclusions are drawn from this video or the salient points that I have mentioned above.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
^^^China is no friend of India and cheeni protestations notwithstanding, cheeni appearances of 'reasonableness' are appearances only.
Its good to know of the mango chinese mandarin's (justified?) disdain for Yindia and all she represents. Good, good. Better to fly below the radar if one can fly at all. If one can't fly, then the radar doesn't matter anyway.
Its good to know of the mango chinese mandarin's (justified?) disdain for Yindia and all she represents. Good, good. Better to fly below the radar if one can fly at all. If one can't fly, then the radar doesn't matter anyway.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
More and more of my Chinese students express their distaste for the party when drunk - alcohol being a great diluter of inhibitions and cold calculations of being under surveillance. When this generation becomes more in proportion to the population, say in about 10-15 years, China will see a regime change. The Chinese communist party may try to save itself by splitting into two and one part pretending to rebel.
But the Chinese must remember that Yeltsin was handpicked as a regional party boss by the top leadership long before he became the iconic symbol of overthrow of the party.
The revolt and destruction will be led by factions within the party, and a split among the leadership in the army may actually complicate things. The partys years are numbered - in the current form at least.
Some time ago I had asked BRFites to consider the possibility of change in regimes in Islamist countries over the long term, but I had primarily Iran in mind. I had also asked to conosider the possibility that China's current regime may not be sustainable and may not be like this forever into the future. My point was that long term planning for India must take into consideration these possible developments and use such opportunities.
But the Chinese must remember that Yeltsin was handpicked as a regional party boss by the top leadership long before he became the iconic symbol of overthrow of the party.
The revolt and destruction will be led by factions within the party, and a split among the leadership in the army may actually complicate things. The partys years are numbered - in the current form at least.
Some time ago I had asked BRFites to consider the possibility of change in regimes in Islamist countries over the long term, but I had primarily Iran in mind. I had also asked to conosider the possibility that China's current regime may not be sustainable and may not be like this forever into the future. My point was that long term planning for India must take into consideration these possible developments and use such opportunities.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Any news about JASMIN RVOLUTION? Chinis are have blocked word "jasmin" on intelnet.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Let us hope the Jasmine scent spreads in China....interestingly the Stalinist rapist goon propaganda yellow puppets in India have been on celebration mood of late - writing editorials and articles (such as those by he retired beijing puppet diplomat) praising the Arabs for bringing revolution against 'pro-american' regimes. It of course, does not explain why the most brutal 'revolution' has been in Libya which is not exactly pro-american. One would love to see how they react when it reaches the shores of their patron saints and paymasters..
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
The PRC/CPC has blocked the very word "Egypt" from search engines according to reports, the way that searching for Tiananmen Square 1989 is blocked. You'd almost think the CPC feared its own people...
The CPC wants Mainland Chinese to believe that democracy equals chaos or at the very least severe inefficiency. Unfortunately Taiwan went ahead and became a democracy, but has yet to be enveloped by chaos. The same for South Korea. How inconvenient.
The CPC wants Mainland Chinese to believe that democracy equals chaos or at the very least severe inefficiency. Unfortunately Taiwan went ahead and became a democracy, but has yet to be enveloped by chaos. The same for South Korea. How inconvenient.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
When ever the CPC wants to show that democracy equals chaos and inefficiency, they ALWAYS point at India as example.They dont want to show examples of developed economies like west or south korea or japan or taiwan.Johann wrote:The CPC wants Mainland Chinese to believe that democracy equals chaos or at the very least severe inefficiency. Unfortunately Taiwan went ahead and became a democracy, but has yet to be enveloped by chaos. The same for South Korea. How inconvenient.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Not just CPC, even the likes of Mahathir, LKY and others in SEA always use us as a example of the 'damage' democracy can do to 'progress'. I would say the outward appearance of chaos and inertia is the best takiya factor we have against them...even as it is poorer than Brazil or Jamaica, PRC has attracted lots and lots of negative press...whenever we cross that threshold, people would barely notice, focussed as they are on Rundi-dottys and our yellow media and intellectuals lamenting about the aam-admi that is still left behind..Rony wrote:When ever the CPC wants to show that democracy equals chaos and inefficiency, they ALWAYS point at India as example.They dont want to show examples of developed economies like west or south korea or japan or taiwan.Johann wrote:The CPC wants Mainland Chinese to believe that democracy equals chaos or at the very least severe inefficiency. Unfortunately Taiwan went ahead and became a democracy, but has yet to be enveloped by chaos. The same for South Korea. How inconvenient.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
List of words that can be used by Chinese revolutionaries without being banned.
Chinese Communist Party
Great Leader
Great hall
Great gathering
People's revolution
People's army
People's Leader
Greastest in the world
Highest in the world
longest in the world
deepest in the world
strongest in the world
best in the word
................if these words (translated in chinese) are used as words for revolution, china will not be able to block because if they do so then all the internet will be blocked.
Chinese Communist Party
Great Leader
Great hall
Great gathering
People's revolution
People's army
People's Leader
Greastest in the world
Highest in the world
longest in the world
deepest in the world
strongest in the world
best in the word
................if these words (translated in chinese) are used as words for revolution, china will not be able to block because if they do so then all the internet will be blocked.
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
so i wonder if the difficulty that chinese academics have in getting visas for india might in some way be related to the stapled visa issue?
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Taiwan urges China to respect call for pro-democracy protests
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... y-protests
Crackdown to stop pro-democracy rallies in China
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 28935.html
Calls for democracy, freedom rattle China news
http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldec ... cracy.html
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... y-protests
Crackdown to stop pro-democracy rallies in China
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/wor ... 28935.html
Calls for democracy, freedom rattle China news
http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldec ... cracy.html
Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Christopher Sidor: The key areas from the video link you have posted that are concerning are the seeming lack of academic detail to PRC military systems and programs, within India. The US being a centripetal force in the India-PRC relationship is a matter of concern.
Overall there seems to be a serious lack of access to PRC materials, due to the lack of the total number of people in India familial with the Chinese language.
We cannot know about China through CNN/BBC. Need to form our own views.
Overall there seems to be a serious lack of access to PRC materials, due to the lack of the total number of people in India familial with the Chinese language.
We cannot know about China through CNN/BBC. Need to form our own views.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
^^^
I would go one step further, non of our strategic think tanks like IDSA or universities with foreign/international affairs department like JNU or University of Chennai have a program to access the Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc publications. Or a program to carry out analysis of what is being printed in East Asian nations or talked about in seminars and online discussion. In face of this lack of information, we have to depend on Americans and Europeans for such analysis.
The problem with this is that Americans and other Europeans come with their own viewpoints and biases. We need an Indian view on this. A rational Indian view. A view which praises the development of China and Chinese but does not shrink from pointing out its deficiencies.
For example most of Indians who go to China come back extremely impressed with the buildings and infrastructure that is being built over there. They write editorials bemoaning the fact that India is ages behind. But what they conveniently miss out to mention is that most of these buildings/shopping malls are empty or have very little business conducted in them.
They go on and on about the high speed rail which China has built, but none of them mentions that compared to normal rail, the high speed rail tickets costs are twice high and the occupancy of such trains is low or the economics of such investment does not add up or the fact that the average Chinese cannot afford to travel in these high speed trains. Something which we might see in India too, in the case of Delhi's IGI-CP High speed metro link. i.e. Mass transport has to target the masses and not elites.
I would go one step further, non of our strategic think tanks like IDSA or universities with foreign/international affairs department like JNU or University of Chennai have a program to access the Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc publications. Or a program to carry out analysis of what is being printed in East Asian nations or talked about in seminars and online discussion. In face of this lack of information, we have to depend on Americans and Europeans for such analysis.
The problem with this is that Americans and other Europeans come with their own viewpoints and biases. We need an Indian view on this. A rational Indian view. A view which praises the development of China and Chinese but does not shrink from pointing out its deficiencies.
For example most of Indians who go to China come back extremely impressed with the buildings and infrastructure that is being built over there. They write editorials bemoaning the fact that India is ages behind. But what they conveniently miss out to mention is that most of these buildings/shopping malls are empty or have very little business conducted in them.
They go on and on about the high speed rail which China has built, but none of them mentions that compared to normal rail, the high speed rail tickets costs are twice high and the occupancy of such trains is low or the economics of such investment does not add up or the fact that the average Chinese cannot afford to travel in these high speed trains. Something which we might see in India too, in the case of Delhi's IGI-CP High speed metro link. i.e. Mass transport has to target the masses and not elites.