People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Feb 2011 12:08

Christopher Sidor wrote:
The problem with this is that Americans and other Europeans come with their own viewpoints and biases. We need an Indian view on this. A rational Indian view. A view which praises the development of China and Chinese but does not shrink from pointing out its deficiencies.

They go on and on about the high speed rail which China has built, but none of them mentions that compared to normal rail, the high speed rail tickets costs are twice high and the occupancy of such trains is low or the economics of such investment does not add up or the fact that the average Chinese cannot afford to travel in these high speed trains.

I had posted this many times. Indian needs Bharatiya view of China, Bharatatiya view of Europe (Not a Euro education of the euro worldview), Bharatiya view of america and rest of the world. Otherwise India will be stuck in the views of the others.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Feb 2011 13:01

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/ ... BS20110222

China official warns of domestic unrest and "hostile" West

World »
BEIJING | Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:35am EST
(Reuters) - The Chinese government faces a turbulent time of domestic unrest and challenges from "hostile Western forces" that it will fight with more sophisticated controls, a Communist Party law-and-order official said.

Chen Jiping, deputy secretary general of the Communist Party's Political and Legal Affairs Committee, gave the toughly worded warning in this week's issue of Outlook Weekly, and blamed Western democratic countries for fomenting unrest.

He did not mention the protests that have rocked authoritarian governments in the Middle East, and his words reflect the Communist Party's own homegrown fears.

But the uprisings that deposed Egypt's long-time president Hosni Mubarak and are now threatening Libya's strongman Muammar Gaddafi are likely to reinforce the views of Chinese security officials like Chen.

"The schemes of some hostile Western forces attempting to Western and split us are intensifying, and they are waving the banner of defending rights to meddle in domestic conflicts and maliciously create all kinds of incidents," Chen told the magazine, which is published by the official Xinhua news agency.

"Mass incidents continue at a high rate," Chen said, using the Party euphemism for protests, riots, strikes and mass petitions.

"Our country is in a period of magnified conflicts within the populace, high crime rates and complex struggle against foes, and these features are most unlikely to change any time soon," he said. The magazine reached subscribers on Tuesday.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 22 Feb 2011 14:03

brihaspati wrote:More and more of my Chinese students express their distaste for the party when drunk - alcohol being a great diluter of inhibitions and cold calculations of being under surveillance. When this generation becomes more in proportion to the population, say in about 10-15 years, China will see a regime change. The Chinese communist party may try to save itself by splitting into two and one part pretending to rebel.

Ask any Indian, walking on the street, he will spit anger at the ruling dispensation. In fact one would be surprised if any Indian would not criticize our government. The issue is that hate and resentment are missing. At the end of the day an Indian will still say "My Government is ......." or "Our PM/Minister is.......". There is a sense of ownership. Yes the government is bad, but it is still our own government.
Do the Chinese have such an outlook? Do they have a stake in the government? People, including the Chinese, will only revolt when things go beyond a point. On an empty stomach one becomes a revolutionary. Without a job and employment prospectus, leaves one vengeful and angry.
And how do they view India political system? Or the Taiwanese political system? I ask Taiwanese, because Taiwan sees it self as a part of Chinese region. Though not necessarily part of the PRC/Communist world.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 22 Feb 2011 15:31

China Co-Opts Social Media to Head Off Unrest
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 77316.html

China can be strong only when Chinese people rule their country according to their knowledge, wish and participation.

Red Army is worse than capitalists as they live like Kings and Queens in palaces leaving the middle and poor masses with a piece of bread and a cup of soup and then make them to work like slaves. Many top officials earn a lot of money and escape the country to better world. So Red Army has become an exploitative army rather than propeople army as it claims to be.

Calls for democracy, freedom rattle China news
http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldec ... cracy.html

Voices of online masses can make China heard worldwide
http://opinion.globaltimes.cn/commentar ... 25594.html

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 22 Feb 2011 15:42

India should be alert and wary of the chinese. They can create mischief on the border to unite their country in the name of patriotism

Arihant · Post by **Arihant** » 22 Feb 2011 16:46

Christopher Sidor wrote:
brihaspati wrote:More and more of my Chinese students express their distaste for the party when drunk - alcohol being a great diluter of inhibitions and cold calculations of being under surveillance. When this generation becomes more in proportion to the population, say in about 10-15 years, China will see a regime change. The Chinese communist party may try to save itself by splitting into two and one part pretending to rebel.
Ask any Indian, walking on the street, he will spit anger at the ruling dispensation. In fact one would be surprised if any Indian would not criticize our government. The issue is that hate and resentment are missing. At the end of the day an Indian will still say "My Government is ......." or "Our PM/Minister is.......". There is a sense of ownership. Yes the government is bad, but it is still our own government.
Do the Chinese have such an outlook? Do they have a stake in the government? People, including the Chinese, will only revolt when things go beyond a point. On an empty stomach one becomes a revolutionary. Without a job and employment prospectus, leaves one vengeful and angry.
And how do they view India political system? Or the Taiwanese political system? I ask Taiwanese, because Taiwan sees it self as a part of Chinese region. Though not necessarily part of the PRC/Communist world.

I guess Taiwan is as much of the Chinese region as Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Indonesia are part of the Indian region - which is to say that Taiwan has a Sinic culture (just as much as Laos, Indonesia et al have an Indic culture), but no more...

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 22 Feb 2011 16:51

China Photo essay

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ernational

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 23 Feb 2011 14:36

Organizers urge sustained democracy protests in China, call for release of detained activists
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... Id=6037291

China cracks down on lawyers and activists
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5319eb2e-3eb3 ... z1ElzPaQVN

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 23 Feb 2011 17:41

China facing new calls for jasmine revolution
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ution.html

Chinese call for a Middle East style Jasmine revolution

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Significance and implications of the Jasmine Revolution
http://www.mysinchew.com/node/53699

Can the 'Jasmine Revolution' Spread to N.Korea?
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 01300.html

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 23 Feb 2011 17:56

arihant, i believe taiwan is only sinic due to massive migration of KMT supporters in 1949. the indigenous people of taiwan are ethnically and culturally different to the Han. and ofcourse, are now a tiny minority

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Feb 2011 01:29

Calls for a ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in China Persist
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/world ... china.html

More Jasmine for China?
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/br ... mine-china

DPP head calls for support of "jasmine movement"
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_ ... 1102210025

China: Open letter from Jasmine organizers
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/02/2 ... rganizers/

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Feb 2011 16:44

China goes all out to halt Jasmine Revolution
http://www.mysinchew.com/node/53764

After Protest Video, U.S. Envoy’s Name Censored Online
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011 ... ed-online/

More Jasmine for China?
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/br ... mine-china

China clamping down to prevent Mideast-style protests
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 07042.html

China files subversion charges against Internet users who spread call to protest
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... Id=6047719

Calls for democracy, freedom rattle China
http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldec ... cracy.html

sasisharath · Post by **sasisharath** » 24 Feb 2011 20:47

I had attended a talk conducted by strategic study group from N.I.A.S. on "String of Pearls".
The speaker pointed out that Rajapaske had approached India to invest and develop hambantota port ,but PMO put down his offer ,then sri lankan Prez invited the Chinese and they constructed it & they r also planning to build a fuel depot.Our only achievement is we opened a consulate at hambantota. How do u view this as ? to invest in infrastructure that economically benefits us or look out the window from our consulate & learn economic diplomacy from Chinese.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Feb 2011 22:11

Who really benefits from China's trade with Latin America?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-develo ... de-benefit

Mass tree deaths prompt fears of Amazon 'climate tipping point'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... on-climate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ykxg9

I appreciate Chinese attempt to venture around the world. Their contribution in terms of investment and development projects alongwith promoting an ideology needs to be recognised. But their exploitation of local natural and other wealth and of the local people should be clearly pointed out. In all these calculations the chinese exploitation of the local resources is more than what locals have got it from them. This should be seen as a mere exploitation of such countries!

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Feb 2011 22:16

the chinese have taken the imperialist agenda, covered it in capitalism and then put it on steroids

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Feb 2011 23:29

sasisharath wrote:I had attended a talk conducted by strategic study group from N.I.A.S. on "String of Pearls".
The speaker pointed out that Rajapaske had approached India to invest and develop hambantota port ,but PMO put down his offer ,then sri lankan Prez invited the Chinese and they constructed it & they r also planning to build a fuel depot.Our only achievement is we opened a consulate at hambantota. How do u view this as ? to invest in infrastructure that economically benefits us or look out the window from our consulate & learn economic diplomacy from Chinese.

This kind of info leads to one scenario in which India is trying to trap PRC in the IOR region.
This will make PRC give concessions to India in return for SLOC security

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 24 Feb 2011 23:53

The PMO had/has a point: what is the point of developing Hambantota for vessels that cannot use the Palk Strait otherwise? Why not develop a port in India for that matter? Hambantota was/is meant as a competitor to Tuticorin/Chennai and Kochi. In what logical sense should you expect India to prop up a competitor to itself? The chinis jumped in because they get to gain any case, we lose whatever we would have done. Hopefully new developments in Vallarpadam and expansions in existing ports will ease the misery of Hambantota and put it to death.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 25 Feb 2011 00:18

Jon Huntsman, U.S. Ambassador To China, Spotted At Jasmine Revolution Protests In Beijing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/2 ... 27619.html

China's Jasmine Protest Organizers Call For Regular Sunday Strolls
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asi ... 58074.html

Protesters throw flowers at Chen Yunlin
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003496737

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Feb 2011 08:41

China to give fillip to international relations
Is it going to adopt more confrontational approach or does it see a need to reduce tensions all around it ?

Following a year marked by a number of diplomatic strains with its neighbours, China will look to boost its public diplomacy initiatives in coming months to address concerns about its rise, officials said this week.

These would include sending out a number of non-government delegations to have “less official and more lively” engagement with foreign countries, as well as boosting investment in state-run television and radio channels to push their broadcasts overseas.

China's new public diplomacy programme is expected to figure as a key area of discussion when the government's two most important political bodies — the National People's Congress (NPC), which is the top legislative organisation, and the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), an advisory body — begin their annual session next week.

Mr. Zhao {Zhao Qizheng, who chairs the CPPCC's Foreign Affairs Committee and is also the body's spokesperson} hinted that China would look to follow the United States' lead in being more effective in spreading both the country's message and its values overseas.

Last year, Xinhua launched a global 24-hour news channel in English, looking to emulate the success of Qatar's Al Jazeera, and to provide “a better view of China to its international audience”.

CRI {China Radio International} has expanded its programming, operating broadcasts in 61 languages. Mr. Zhao said it would also look to expand its presence overseas, purchasing slots on local AM and FM channels.

Last month, CRI's Urdu channel began FM broadcasts in Pakistan, and is planning to expand its presence in Sri Lanka. CRI also has Hindi, Tamil and Bengali channels, and has been looking to buy frequencies in India.

In proposals discussed before this year's annual meeting, much of the focus on foreign policy issues was on China's relations with the United States and the tensions on the Korean Peninsula. It is understood that India did not figure prominently.

Mr. Zhao, however, said there was consensus that China and India needed to engage each other positively. “India and China will share the same destiny,” he said. “We should not fight with each other, or envy each other.”

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Feb 2011 13:43

LinkedIn, the social networking site for professionals, has become the first major victim of increased internet censorship in China in the wake of an online campaign for pro-democracy protests.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Feb 2011 13:43

its amazing - the worlds second largest economy and miltry supapawa is afraid of ... linkedin and twitter

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 25 Feb 2011 14:51

^^^
Yeah the 3rd country to send a man into space, on its own, is terrified of some tom-dick-harry, writing some thing on a website. It is so hilarious and tragic at the same time.

I wonder if the 550 Billion USD, the second biggest stimulus program in the world, did not work as expected? Does it mean that china just wasted 550 billion dollars. If there are any Chinese citizens on this forum can you please shed some light on it.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 26 Feb 2011 01:19

^^

Yeah the 3rd country to send a man into space, on its own, is terrified of some tom-dick-harry, writing some thing on a website. It is so hilarious and tragic at the same time.

You are wrong sir. China is first in the world to send a Chinese to send in space. China was first to show how air bubble escapes to space from capsule.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 26 Feb 2011 01:37

Seoul to Float News of 'Jasmine Revolutions' to N.Korea
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 01269.html

China Blocks Access to LinkedIn Networking Site
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asi ... 30028.html

Advocates call for more support of 'jasmine revolution' in China
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_ ... 1102250011

Shankas · Post by **Shankas** » 26 Feb 2011 02:29

China Blocks Access to LinkedIn Networking Site
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asi ... 30028.html

From the above Link
The networking site went offline on Friday shortly after one user set up a forum discussing the idea of a Jasmine Revolution in China.

If all it takes is one controversial page, why not setup pages that discuss "controversial" topics on all forums and sites. We can really box them in.

Q. How to prevent plagiarism and protect your IP?

Start of each article with "Falun Gong", "Jasmine Revolution", "Tianmen Square"

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 26 Feb 2011 02:45

http://cmp.hku.hk/2011/02/23/10184/

In the past few weeks, as events have unfolded in Egypt and elsewhere, the usually lively opinion pages in China’s commercial media — which tend to push issues further than their Party media counterparts — have been far more restrained. The most notable exception was a piece published in New Century Weekly, the magazine run by CMP fellow and former Caijing editor-in-chief Hu Shuli (胡舒立). Called “The Decision Belongs to the People of Egypt,” the piece argued that “dictatorship breeds unrest, and democracy engenders peace.” While it did not mention China specifically, the relevance was clear, and Internet users in China quickly added their own comments, drawing parallels to the Chinese experience.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 0feb11.jpg

UPDATED at 3pm EST—As unrest spread the last few weeks throughout the Middle East, speculation mounted as to when the Chinese people would stage their own “Jasmine Revolution.” Anonymous calls for such a protest to take place this past Sunday appeared on China’s Internet, but some now say those calls to action were a hoax staged by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china/a ... 51732.html

zlin · Post by **zlin** » 26 Feb 2011 07:35

China forging ahead with all-out Libya evacuation operation

English.news.cn 2011-02-25 13:17:42

BEIJING, Feb. 25 (Xinhua) -- The second passenger plane chartered by the Chinese government in an all-out effort to evacuate its citizens from unrest-wracked Libya landed here on Friday morning.

The 227 passengers aboard the flight from Cairo added to the 224 evacuees who arrived at Beijing from the Libyan capital of Tripoli hours earlier in the first chartered aircraft.

Their homecoming came a day after 83 others returned to Beijing and Shanghai from the northern Egyptian port of Alexandria in two commercial flights.

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Song Tao said early Friday morning that some 12,000 Chinese nationals had been pulled out of Libya in the ongoing large-scale evacuation operation.

Besides those already back in China, a majority of other fleeing Chinese were evacuated to Egypt, Tunisia, Greece and Malta by land and sea with the assistance of Chinese embassies in these countries, and are expected to return to China in batches.

In Egypt, the Chinese embassy was helping over 100 other evacuated Chinese arrange their flights back home. The diplomatic mission said that it had made comprehensive preparations to receive more compatriots from neighboring Libya.

Meanwhile, nearly 1,000 Chinese nationals arrived in Tunisia, also bordering Libya, on Thursday and were warmly greeted and well accommodated by Chinese diplomats stationed there. Another 2,000 were expected to follow later in the day.

On the same day, two Greek ocean liners chartered by the Chinese embassy in Greece reached the Greek island of Crete, where Chinese Ambassador Luo Linquan and Crete Governor Stavros Arnaoutakis greeted the over 4,100 Chinese nationals on board.

More are expected to arrive in the coming days at this Mediterranean island, which Arnaoutakis said is fully prepared for reception. Then the evacuees will take chartered flights back to China.

Also across the Mediterranean Sea, some 2,100 Chinese nationals are expected to arrive at Malta on Friday aboard a ship chartered by the Chinese embassy in Malta.

The embassy said that it had chartered for this operation another two liners, which were standing by at Greek and Italian ports

zlin · Post by **zlin** » 26 Feb 2011 07:38

China strives to evacuate nationals from Libya, gets aid from foreign governments

BEIJING, Feb. 26 (Xinhua) -- China has made great efforts to evacuate its nationals from Libya over the past few days. The evacuees have been flown back to China or transferred to neighboring countries.

12,000 CHINESE NATIONALS EVACUATED
According to a statement from the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs released Friday, about 12,000 Chinese nationals have been evacuated, as of early Friday morning. The number is likely to increase as more flights, and other modes of transport, were sent to expand the evacuation efforts.

Early on Friday, 451 Chinese citizens were flown back to Beijing from Cairo, Egypt, in two separate chartered government planes. Before the flights, 83 other Chinese nationals flew to Beijing or Shanghai from the northern Egyptian port of Alexandria. They arrived on two commercial flights on Thursday.

Also, more than 4,300 Chinese citizens had been evacuated on two large passenger liners, rented by the Chinese government, which arrived at the Greek Island of Crete from Libya.

"These evacuees have successfully boarded ships at the port of Benghazi and are waiting (for the ships) to set sail," said the statement.

The statement also mentioned that about 3,000 other Chinese citizens in Tunisia and Egypt would take the land routes and head home after finishing customs procedures in border checkpoints in the two countries.

Tens of thousands of Chinese nationals had been working or living in Libya when the unrest erupted last week. Most of the nationals were employees of Chinese companies with businesses in the country.

FOREIGN ASSISTANCE

Seven ships departed from Greece for Libya to help Chinese nationals in one of China's largest-ever evacuation efforts of nationals from abroad.

According to the Greek Minister of Maritime Affairs, Islands and Fisheries, Ioannis Diamantidis, Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou demanded full assistance from the country's ministries once Greece received notification from the Chinese government.

"I contacted ship companies. Despite the possible danger and uncertainties, these companies responded positively," Diamantidis said during his visit to China, adding that it was an "unforgettable experience" and a "special achievement" to participate in the evacuation assistance.

According to the minister, more than 10,000 Chinese nationals in Libya are scheduled to take ships sent by Greece to return home via Crete.

HOME IS BEST

After the arrival of the first chartered flight that carried more than 200 evacuees from Libya to Beijing, citizens started their journey home.

At the airport in the provincial capital of Wuhan in Hubei Province, families and friends on Friday morning were anxious while waiting for the arrival of the flight from Beijing. Five people on the flight were evacuated from Libya.

Chen Quandi, a mother of a 25-year-old woman who worked as an interpreter in Libya for a construction company, did not take her hands off her eyebrows until she saw her daughter. "She's a tough girl. She always said in her online messages that it's safe there to ease our anxiety," Chen said.

According to the commercial department of the province, there were more than 7,400 people from the local companies working in Libya, and one-third among them are local residents.

Guo Qilin, general manager of Changjiang Geotechnical Engineering Corporation, was also waiting. "We sent more than 2,000 workers to Libya, and they will all come home in days," Guo said.

"East or west, home is best," said Yang Weijuan, Chen's daughter.

"I miss the guys in Libya, and hope they will come home soon and hope things will turn better there," she said.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 26 Feb 2011 09:42

The myth of China's financial leverage

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/ ... l_leverage

zlin · Post by **zlin** » 26 Feb 2011 10:44

Four vessels on Libya evacuation mission for Chinese nationals

10:32, February 26, 2011

The Chinese embassy in Malta has chartered four vessels to evacuate Chinese nationals from the chaos in Libya, a Chinese diplomat told Xinhua on Friday.

Fu Zhimin, political counselor of the Chinese embassy in Malta, said the first chartered evacuation cruise dispatched by the Chinese embassy has departed the port city of Benghazi, Libya, for Malta and was expected to arrive at the Mediterranean island at mid-Saturday due to rough weather.

In addition to 2,216 Chinese nationals, the ship also carried 13 Maltese, 20 Croatians, two Italians and four Vietnamese.

Two other vessels, with a capacity of 2,000 and 1,000 passengers respectively, left for Libya on Thursday and Friday local time. A fourth ship, with a capacity of 1,600, was expected to set out Friday afternoon.

In an effort to swiftly return the evacuated Chinese to China, chartered planes from China Eastern Airlines were scheduled to arrive at Malta on Saturday. Six more planes were to follow in the coming days to bring back all those Chinese nationals evacuated.

With the full support from the Maltese government, all necessary medical and logistic backup has been mobilized and coordinated by the Chinese embassy.

Source:Xinhua

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 26 Feb 2011 15:29

Words “Jasmine”, “Tunisia”, “Egypt” are blocked in Chinese microblogs
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/02/25/46220476.html

Page 1 of 2
Smelling salts for China's Jasmine dream
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MB26Ad01.html

Online activists calling for Jasmine revolution arrested in China
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... China.html

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 26 Feb 2011 19:53

Shanghai Tightens Security Ahead of China ‘Jasmine’ Rallies
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-2 ... llies.html

Advocates call for more support of 'jasmine revolution' in China
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_ ... 1102250011

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China authorities block democracy campaigns
By Kathrin Hille in Beijing

China Clampdown Ahead Of Democracy Demo
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... May_Spread

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 27 Feb 2011 15:51

China lowers growth rate target in sustainability drive

China's Prime Minister Wen Jiabao says China is lowering its annual economic growth target from 8% to 7% and is determined to contain soaring prices.He was speaking in a question and answer session with internet users in what has become an annual online cha

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 27 Feb 2011 22:41

Chinese Government’s “Jasmine Revolution” Crackdown Seen as Excessive
http://thefastertimes.com/politics/2011 ... excessive/

China authorities block democracy campaigns
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/803542c6-4137 ... z1FBN95hPy

1,500 remember Hong Kong democracy icon
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... a29c99.6a1

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 28 Feb 2011 04:10

China's jasmine revolution: police but no protesters line streets of Beijing

Major show of force from Chinese authorities following anonymous call for peaceful protests

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/fe ... ing-police

Heavy-handed reaction to China's 'Jasmine' protests
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... tests.html

China's Wen vows action, police smother 'rallies'

By Dan Martin (AFP) – 21 hours ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 92758e.931

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 28 Feb 2011 12:53

The Jasmine revolution spreading across the arab world is based on two premises
1) Soaring unemployment in the youth. All of the countries where revolution has happened have a youth bulge with a majority of their population under 30. A majority of them is unemployed.
2) High inflation which is causing pain to salaried families.

The second reason was also responsible for the 1989 Tienanmen incident, with figure of 28% being quoted often. The situation is a bit different now w.r.t China. China's youth bulge is going to get over in 2015, according to some estimates. So unless Chinese economy stumbles badly we will not see a jasmine revolution in PRC.

So does the revolution sweeping through the Arab world not impact china? Well not directly. Recently Chinese evacuated more 10K people from Libya. Some of these people will go back to Libya and will spread the word, even if the Chinese authorities restrict access, related to this revolution. This is the problem for PRC. The more it globalizes, more of its citizens go out and view the different governing standards of the world. The current uni-directional governance of China would be compared to the forms of government which other countries have. This will over the long term be detrimental to the single party system of China.

There is also another insidious problem of this jasmine revolution w.r.t. China. The more it succeeds in bringing democratic or proto-democratic systems in Arab world, more isolated China becomes regarding its ruling methodology. After all Libya was very prosperous compared to China. Libya's per capita income was approximately USD 14000 in 2010 while PRCs was approximately USD 7000. Please note that the figures are approximate and are for the year 2010. Yet the Jasmine revolution happened in Libya. So if PRC ruling class is expecting that rising prosperity will blunt the demand for political change, it is living in a dream world.

zlin · Post by **zlin** » 28 Feb 2011 18:03

China evacuates nearly 29,000 nationals from Libya
(AFP) – 3 hours ago

BEIJING — China said Monday it had evacuated nearly 29,000 of its nationals from strife-torn Libya, where a popular uprising has left at least hundreds dead and triggered a mass exodus of foreigners.

The foreign ministry said around 2,500 Chinese citizens had already returned home and 23,000 more had been sent to Greece, Malta, Tunisia, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates, where they were waiting to board flights home.

Another 3,400 had left Libya by ship and were on their way to some of these countries, it added.

China has ramped up a huge air, sea and land operation to evacuate more than 30,000 citizens from oil-rich Libya -- lauded in the state media on Monday as evidence of the nation's growing might.

"The country's growing comprehensive national strength has provided a strong backing to such a massive operation overseas," the China Daily said.

The Global Times said the evacuation showed "the improved ability of the Chinese government to react swiftly to emergencies", adding in its commentary that "the stronger China is, the more responsibilities it will have".

China should "speed up naval construction and the construction of aircraft carriers" to help protect its "great power status", the paper said.

China's navy has dispatched the missile frigate Xuzhou to waters off the Libyan coast to help in the evacuation and protect ships carrying Chinese expatriates from the nation, the People's Liberation Army Daily said.

The foreign ministry said those remaining in Libya would be flown out or taken overland to Tunisia, without giving a figure for the number yet to be evacuated.

The Chinese defence ministry said Monday it would send four military transport planes to speed up the effort.

The Civil Aviation Administration of China had earlier agreed to send 15 flights a day for the next two weeks to speed up the evacuation of Chinese citizens.

The violence in Libya has triggered a mass exodus of foreigners, with 100,000 migrant workers fleeing the unrest.

According to state media, most Chinese citizens living in Libya work in the oil, rail and telecom sectors.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Mar 2011 07:45

Human Rights Last: China's diplomats have the ear of the world's bad guys. So what are they telling them?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ights_last

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Mar 2011 07:54

Regional inequality in China
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/ ... -in-china/

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Mar 2011 07:55

zlin wrote:China evacuates nearly 29,000 nationals from Libya
(AFP) – 3 hours ago

BEIJING — China said Monday it had evacuated nearly 29,000 of its nationals from strife-torn Libya, where a popular uprising has left at least hundreds dead and triggered a mass exodus of foreigners.

The foreign ministry said around 2,500 Chinese citizens had already returned home and 23,000 more had been sent to Greece, Malta, Tunisia, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates, where they were waiting to board flights home.

Another 3,400 had left Libya by ship and were on their way to some of these countries, it added.

China has ramped up a huge air, sea and land operation to evacuate more than 30,000 citizens from oil-rich Libya -- lauded in the state media on Monday as evidence of the nation's growing might.

http://announcexpress.com/mp/?p=2736

A first group of 43 Chinese aircraft arrived Thursday in Beijing, while China was implementing an operation to repatriate more than 30,000 nationals working in that country, media reported. An Airbus A330-200 with 250 seats of Air China, has also raised Thursday morning in Tripoli, to bring more Chinese. A second device was to follow it, according to authorities quoted by Xinhua. According to a Greek government source, four Greek ferry chartered by the Chinese authorities had to evacuate Benghazi 15,000 Chinese in principle to Crete. Two of these vessels have already arrived in Benghazi and should reach Heraklion (Greece) later Thursday. The 33,000 Chinese in Libya are mainly used in the construction of railways, oil and telecommunications.

If China has evacuated 29,000 people. Only 4000 are left to evacuate. Why are warships going now? What are those 43 planes doing if the Chinese are all going to Greece by ferry. Something does not gel in the propagandu filled news posted above.