Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2011

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 28 Feb 2011 09:37

I had posted several days ago in WA forum about how Bahraini Sunni regime has been granting citizenship to Pakbaric Sunni fanatic animals in exchange of support and participation in anti-Shia violence. Perhaps Gaddafi has done the same in exchange for naming some stadium in karachi after him!

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 28 Feb 2011 10:22

Suppiah wrote:I had posted several days ago in WA forum about how Bahraini Sunni regime has been granting citizenship to Pakbaric Sunni fanatic animals in exchange of support and participation in anti-Shia violence. Perhaps Gaddafi has done the same in exchange for naming some stadium in karachi after him!

VikramS wrote:
It seems even in Bahrien the firing was done by TSP citizens.

Almost two generations and four decades have passed, but killing unarmed civilians seems to be forte of TSP.

The reason is that OIC and Islamic bomb and the Islamic block is based on the dictators supporting Pakistan as the nuclear power. This cascade will change the islamic block like never before.
TSP soldiers are trying to prevent this.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Feb 2011 10:32

VikramS I was alluding to this when I asked Shyam to look at things from post WWII. This current architecture was put in place after 1965 and is crumbling. These thugs (Libya et al) funded TSP's bomb and supported them in all the OIC and other forums.

You guys should blog this and spread the message far and wide.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 28 Feb 2011 10:39

Facebook posting: Video clip captures mock suicide missions

PESHAWAR: A young boy dressed in black bids farewell to other children standing in a queue. The boy, around 12 years old, has his face covered with a black cloth. The children standing in the queue appear to be around four to 10 years of age.
...
The video highlights the impact of violence and insurgency on children, and is the first of its kind. It shows that the militancy of the Taliban has scarred the culture of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, going so far as to seep into the games children play with each other.

Video - http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php ... 6&comments

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Feb 2011 10:50

Apparenly there are no electric locomotives in TSP because all the copper wires got stolen

http://tribune.com.pk/story/124828/paki ... rapped-up/

After increasingly frequent copper theft incidents at various points along the track and on account of lack of funds for replacement of these locomotives, the service was suspended in 2010.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 28 Feb 2011 10:56

Anujan

What happened - no email?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Feb 2011 11:09

ramana wrote:I got six out of seven on her axis of evil cuisine test!

I got only 5; very interesting though.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Feb 2011 11:59

Rangudu wrote:Anujan

What happened - no email?

Work pressures, will send you an email soon!

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 28 Feb 2011 12:07

SSridhar wrote:
ramana wrote:I got six out of seven on her axis of evil cuisine test!
I got only 5; very interesting though.

Where is this?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Feb 2011 14:00

Dilbu, it is here

sum · Post by **sum** » 28 Feb 2011 14:28

In total, 851 US nationals are working in Pakistan - 554 diplomats and 297 non-diplomats who enjoy diplomatic immunity. Next comes the British High Commission in Islamabad whose 170 staff members enjoy diplomatic immunity, including 167 diplomats and three others. In its Karachi deputy high commission, seven diplomatic staff enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

870 diplomats in a single country?

That would be bigger than the entire IFS cadre strength of India..

Does US have those many even within its own country?

sum · Post by **sum** » 28 Feb 2011 14:33

Prem wrote:http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 90,00.html
Davis Spy Crisis: Top U.S., Pakistan Spooks in Talks

What?? No word on evil India or J&K as the root cause of all friction in the entire article?

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 28 Feb 2011 15:24

VikramS wrote:asprinzel ji:

It seems even in Bahrien the firing was done by TSP citizens.

Almost two generations and four decades have passed, but killing unarmed civilians seems to be forte of TSP.

Jo Dhaka main war-criminal, woh Libya main bhee

Saar, you forgot to include the stuff that ol' Zia-ul-Haq pulled in Jordan in 1970. Yep, Pakis managed to kill more Palestinians in one month than IDF could do in 20 years or so. That's why older generation Palis are not fans of Pakis at all.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 28 Feb 2011 15:27

Anujan wrote:Apparenly there are no electric locomotives in TSP because all the copper wires got stolen

http://tribune.com.pk/story/124828/paki ... rapped-up/

After increasingly frequent copper theft incidents at various points along the track and on account of lack of funds for replacement of these locomotives, the service was suspended in 2010.

I'm guessing that the reason for frequent copper thefts is because of lack of electricity. Abdul sees the power go out and shimmies up the nearest pole and cuts a length of wire off.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Feb 2011 15:39

ArmenT wrote:Yep, Pakis managed to kill more Palestinians in one month than IDF could do in 20 years or so. That's why older generation Palis are not fans of Pakis at all.

The terrorist organization 'Black September' was created as a result by the Palestenians.

Brig. Zia-ul-Haq massacred thousands of Palestenians in camps at Irbid, Salt, Sweileh,Baq'aa, Wehdat and Zarqa. As The Jordanian King decorated Brig. Zia with the highest medal of ‘Order of Valiance’, the Palestenians equated him with the Israeli General Ariel Sharon. So much for this ummah nonsense by Pakistan. Anyway, that was not the first or the last time that Pakistan betrayed the ummah-nonsense cause.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Feb 2011 15:49

Anujan wrote:Apparently there are no electric locomotives in TSP . . .

There are many such factoids. There are no cinemas in Islamabad, there can be no mannequins in shops in most cities & towns of Pakistan, there is no music department in the Punjab Uiversity because of JI diktat, a local magistrate’s no-objection certificate must be obtained prior to hosting a dance or a drama event anywhere, there are no terrorists in Pakistan etc.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Feb 2011 15:51

http://tribune.com.pk/story/125046/paki ... -citizens/
Libya unrest: Pakistan ramps up efforts to evacuate citizens

Pakistan embassy officials are working with local authorities in Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt and Turkey to ensure the repatriation, especially of those Pakistanis who were without proper documentation and passports, the statement said.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 28 Feb 2011 15:54

SSridhar wrote:
Anujan wrote:Apparently there are no electric locomotives in TSP . . .
There are many such factoids. There are no cinemas in Islamabad, there can be no mannequins in shops in most cities & towns of Pakistan, there is no music department in the Punjab Uiversity because of JI diktat, a local magistrate’s no-objection certificate must be obtained prior to hosting a dance or a drama event anywhere, there are no terrorists in Pakistan etc.

And Kasab is not Pakistani

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 28 Feb 2011 16:13

From PR electric locomotive report

He said there were a total of 16 electric locomotives parked at the sheds. Thirteen of which, he said, had crashed and three needed to be fixed.

How can a parked locomotive crash? Djinn energy?

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 28 Feb 2011 16:20

Story of a Pakbarian barber-ic

http://tribune.com.pk/story/124964/tali ... ut-of-all/

Dilshad describes his life before the brutal Taliban insurgency in Buner as heaven. At the age of 30, he is the father of eight children and was the owner of a well-established salon in the Pir-Abai area of Buner district, an adjacent village to Sultanwas.
Although struck down by paralysis at the age of 15, Dilshad did not lose heart.

He certainly lost neither his heart nor his reproductive energy...BTW have you come across any report, any random report of such interviews with Pakbarian animals where they have less than 5 or 6 children? Practically every Mango Abdul quoted in any media, western or Paki, mention about 6.

asprinzl · Post by **asprinzl** » 28 Feb 2011 17:03

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_ ... PB6l1QsPro

Libyan soldiers massacred by Paki mercenaries.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 28 Feb 2011 18:02

Family planning is an important issue for many developing countries worldwide, including South Asia. In Pakistan, despite a governmental programme supporting family planning and despite the improvements over the last few decades, total fertility rate remains high (4.8 in 2000) and current contraception use remains relatively low (20% in 2000) [1]. In 2004, Pakistan had lower contraception use than most other Muslim countries

http://www.reproductive-health-journal. ... tent/2/1/8

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Feb 2011 19:02

^^^ The troubling implication is the popn explosion will someday land up at our door.

Packee sense of entitlement that says the world owes them a living is 400% visible in their approach to family planning only. So what if there's no way in heaven that such a popn burden can be supported on available land, food and water resources etc.... The world will take care of them or something.... Am sure the jihad factories also encourage large families so that a few spare sons can be expended in holi war.

I can only hope and pray our gubmint will do the needful when push comes to shove and pak refugees in their millions start streaming across the border escaping uncivil war there. In that sense, Packee propagandu that the evil yindus are only looking for a chance to massacre innocent packees helps postpone this day of reckoning.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Feb 2011 19:13

Suppiah wrote:From PR electric locomotive report

He said there were a total of 16 electric locomotives parked at the sheds. Thirteen of which, he said, had crashed and three needed to be fixed.

Needed to be fixed to do what ? There is no electricity, there is no catenary anyway.

arun · Post by **arun** » 28 Feb 2011 19:20

JE Menon wrote:Family planning is an important issue for many developing countries worldwide, including South Asia. In Pakistan, despite a governmental programme supporting family planning and despite the improvements over the last few decades, total fertility rate remains high (4.8 in 2000) and current contraception use remains relatively low (20% in 2000) [1]. In 2004, Pakistan had lower contraception use than most other Muslim countries

http://www.reproductive-health-journal. ... tent/2/1/8

The low level of contraceptive use is certainly going to show up. The Islamic Republic of Pakistan by 2030 “is expected to surpass Indonesia as the country with the single largest Muslim population”:

The Future of the Global Muslim Population

For the population number see here:

Muslim Population by Country

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 28 Feb 2011 20:07

Forty-five arrested for having links with Davis

The individuals had been arrested from Lahore, Karachi and Peshawar and their contact information was taken from Davis’ mobile phone. Investigations were underway.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 28 Feb 2011 21:19

John Ellis reports about the new arrest in Peshawar:

The arrest of Mr. DeHaven is seen by some in the US intelligence community as the functional equivalent of a hostage taking.

link

arun · Post by **arun** » 28 Feb 2011 22:05

Is it appropriate in an “Islamic Republic” and “Ideological Muslim State” for a Minister, the Railway Minister in this case, to hold up kaafir efforts as worthy of emulation?:

“Provide us 400 engines and then if we fail to deliver, I may be subjected to accountability and I shall be ready for the consequences. You expect us to follow the Indians. How can we make railways a profitable entity in the given grim situation? India has invested massively from 1997 to 2005 in the railways and this has enabled it to not only stand on its own feet, but to generate billions of rupees revenue,” he contended.

He pointed out that on the one hand, India had envisaged in the new budget dollar 12.7 billion investment in its railways, while on the other hand, the Government of Pakistan was not prepared to spare a few billions to keep the trains on tracks. He added the Indian Railways would be adding another 68 passenger trains to its massive fleet, which already had 8,300 locomotives at its disposal.

The News

archan · Post by **archan** » 28 Feb 2011 22:24

Why do they even compare direct numbers when the difference in population and area is so high. Not to say that the paki railway system is not, well, paki.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 28 Feb 2011 22:38

Chris Hitchens, as pithily as ever, nails the Pakis.

Our Man in Pakistan --
The dreadful treatment of Raymond Davis is a reminder of how dysfunctional our relationship with Pakistan has become.
http://www.slate.com/id/2286722/

But Pakistan is not a "normal" country. It is a failed and rogue state, where Davis would have had to know that his assailants might very well be working for the forces of law and order. There would be no need for him to be carrying arms if it were not notorious that the Pakistani army and police are the patrons of the Taliban and in league with various criminal and fundamentalist gangs.

Not to mince words, then, Davis is a hostage. In addition to the usual sense of the word, he is a hostage to the Pakistani authorities who dare not—even if they wish—make an enemy either of the Islamist mobs or the uniformed para-state run by the intelligence services. He is also a hostage to the inability or unwillingness of the U.S. government to call things by their right names. President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have made the correct noises about the relevant international statutes governing immunity, and their envoy Sen. John Kerry (who should never have been sent unless notified in advance that he would return with the prisoner) has even spoken of putting Davis on trial in the United States, which in ordinary circumstances might seem a little premature. But they all talk as if Pakistan were a country of law, and they all talk as if Pakistan were not a client state. Its client status, indeed, is what leads so many Pakistanis to detest America, without whose largesse and indulgence it would long ago have faced collapse. Thus to the final irony: We are denied leverage by the fact of the very influence for which we are hated.

This sick relationship with Pakistan, which plays a continuous and undisguised double-cross on us in Afghanistan, will probably have to be terminated at some point. But in the meantime, it will have to be made very clear to the rulers of that country that if they want to keep Raymond Davis in prison, they will have to manage without our subsidies. He may be a bad test of an important principle, but it is still the important principle that is being tested, and we have no more right to compromise on the principle of diplomatic immunity than the Pakistanis have to violate it.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 28 Feb 2011 23:08

it is a terrible tragedy that hitchens is afflicted by cancer...terminal

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Feb 2011 23:08

Amirkhan bullsht not withstanding , Davis has committed murder on Paki soil. Even if it is argued that he had diplomatic immunity, it could be easily waived for such grave crimes. Self defence is yet to be proved. I have never heard of diplomatic immunity to a spy. This would be first time.

Amirkhans have a tendency to deride other country's legal system and think of their own as above all. And so they are appalled that Pakis, who are living on their doles, have actually the courage and guts to arrest one of the amirkhan's spy and keeping under custody for so long. It is high time that they start learning the realities of the country they operate in and also respect their , howsoever rudimentary , legal system. After all it was their own Chief Justice who withstood the dictator supported by Amirkhan.

Let Paki law take its due course. May be they also apply Sharia in this case. Already they have broken the network operated by Davis to large extent. Good job compare to DCH affair.

Ultimately Davis might be released, I hope, but what is apparent is that Amirkhans life would never be safe in Pak.Davis case is also going to test Paki judiciary and the Govt. Amirkhans would have to think thrice before calli ng any head of ISI or Pak Army etc for testifying in amirkhan court. whether for 26/11 ot 9/11 or any future incidents.

Let us wait and see if Davis is punished or Pakis GUBO before amirkhans losing echendee.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 28 Feb 2011 23:15

chaanakya wrote:Amirkhan bullsht not withstanding , Davis has committed murder on Paki soil. Even if it is argued that he had diplomatic immunity, it could be easily waived for such grave crimes. Self defence is yet to be proved. I have never heard of diplomatic immunity to a spy. This would be first time.

Wrong on all counts.

1. Diplomatic immunity, once established, can only be waived by the sending country, grave crimes notwithstanding
2. Spies have diplomatic immunity, if their cover role was declared as a diplomat

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 28 Feb 2011 23:20

Rangudu, what does the grapevines say about this entire RD affair? any beltway gossip you can share with us?

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 28 Feb 2011 23:21

@chanaakya -
I disagree on the ground that pak-us relationship is far different than a country-to-country. First pakistan is not a country, so when we speak of law of pakistan then we should be careful of whether it is a law of taliban or ISI or CJ or Lahore court etc. Pakistan is a client state which survives on US money. They have no choice but to give up RD. Its in his rights whether or not he has a diplomatic cover. This is law of US in a land called pakistan.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 28 Feb 2011 23:25

archan wrote:Why do they even compare direct numbers when the difference in population and area is so high. Not to say that the paki railway system is not, well, paki.

to match the number they need trains of locomotives; no wagons, only a chain of locomotives running here and there

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 28 Feb 2011 23:26

shravan wrote:Forty-five arrested for having links with Davis

The individuals had been arrested from Lahore, Karachi and Peshawar and their contact information was taken from Davis’ mobile phone. Investigations were underway.

Man, what kind of mobile phone did Davis have? No rm * on his mobile phone? What kind of shit contractors is CIA sending to Pakistan?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Feb 2011 23:30

Rangudu wrote: Wrong on all counts.

1. Diplomatic immunity, once established, can only be waived by the sending country, grave crimes notwithstanding
2. Spies have diplomatic immunity, if their cover role was declared as a diplomat

You jumped too soon without reading it properly.

Well I didn't say Pak has to waive Diplomatic immunity. Amirkhan could very well waive it Like it was being asked by UK for an Indian diplomat .
A Diplomat is a diplomat with immunity, whatever he may be doing( spying) otherwise.The case in point is CIA station chief whose cover was blown by ISI and had to leave. He was not prohibited from leaving as he enjoyed Diplomatic immunity. But a spy, who is not diplomat, does not have immunity. That Davis was a diplomat is yet to be established satisfactorily.Let it be established, then the first point would be played out.

Amirkhan is most likely to waive all conditionality of doles and grant $ 3 Bn in exchange for Davis. (Sums may vary). We need to see how it is twisted by army to their advantage as civilian govt would be kicked hard if they appease amirkhas

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 28 Feb 2011 23:34

chaanakya wrote:Amirkhan bullsht not withstanding , Davis has committed murder on Paki soil. Even if it is argued that he had diplomatic immunity, it could be easily waived for such grave crimes. Self defence is yet to be proved. I have never heard of diplomatic immunity to a spy. This would be first time.

Amirkhans have a tendency to deride other country's legal system and think of their own as above all. And so they are appalled that Pakis, who are living on their doles, have actually the courage and guts to arrest one of the amirkhan's spy and keeping under custody for so long. It is high time that they start learning the realities of the country they operate in and also respect their , howsoever rudimentary , legal system. After all it was their own Chief Justice who withstood the dictator supported by Amirkhan.

Let Paki law take its due course. May be they also apply Sharia in this case. Already they have broken the network operated by Davis to large extent. Good job compare to DCH affair.

Ultimately Davis might be released, I hope, but what is apparent is that Amirkhans life would never be safe in Pak.Davis case is also going to test Paki judiciary and the Govt. Amirkhans would have to think thrice before calli ng any head of ISI or Pak Army etc for testifying in amirkhan court. whether for 26/11 ot 9/11 or any future incidents.

Let us wait and see if Davis is punished or Pakis GUBO before amirkhans losing echendee.

Chaanakya,..thanks....irrespective of the int'al laws, Pak needs to be instigated on this issue and and be told to stand up and see eye to eye to unkil.....let them slug it out....and as they keep on doing it, Bharat should watch from the gallery with a grin........

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I don't know why BRFites are so hung up in proving that Davis has immunity......deshis should
apply a bit of chankyan chaatnee, and prop up the failed state before unkil before unkil loses it s cool and smash it once and for good......

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 28 Feb 2011 23:34

Pakistan Tried to Trade CIA Contractor for 'Lady al Qaeda'

According to a senior American administration official and a Pakistani official involved in the negotiations to free CIA contractor Raymond Davis, the Pakistani government proposed trading Davis for Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT-educated Pakistani neuroscientist currently serving 86 years in federal prison for attempted murder.

The offer was immediately dismissed by the U.S. government. "The Pakistanis have raised it," the U.S. official said. "We are not going to pursue it."