The Cricket World Cup Thread

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 02 Mar 2011 21:19

Yes, no more jinxing please

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 02 Mar 2011 21:28

Dear England, this one's for you

- from India, with love.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Mar 2011 21:29

O'brein has the build of shane watson/cameron white - big, clean hitting baseball slugger type guy.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 02 Mar 2011 21:33

^^^ He's more of the Jesse Ryder class. White and Watson are both well built yes, but lean. This one's a little stout.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 Mar 2011 21:33

I read some of the posts about how the pitch is 350+ or 370+ ityadi. My simple mind is frozen and cannot understand how pitches can be prepared to that clarity. Bowling vs Batting pitches? Yeah, that I can understand. I also understand it is a wide spectrum, pitches where ball comes to the bat nicely, has good bounce and pitches start to turn - well those were 5 day marathon matches. I can understand the day vs night conditions, early morning vs late afternoon conditions ityadi too.

I love to know how they make a 370 or a 350 run batting pitch vs say a good batting pitch.

Here is my simple observation; which is very obvious that all cricketing fans would have observed and analysts must have stated it million times and it revolves around the concept of "mindset". Simple, matter over. During the 6 days of cricket (5+1 rest day) the mindset was different; that began to change with ODI, running between the wickets improve a lot; cheekier singles and doubles were taken that batsment did not attempt during the test matches. Once the ODIs crossed the tipping point, the ODI mindset made its inroads to test match as well. Faster cricket evolved, with changing rules and format. 4s and 6s that were not attempted in the earlier ODIs were attempted in the later versions of ODIs and 20x20 formats.

I remember the days when in the first 10 overs 40 runs were scored and the fans thought that was really good cricket. Sometimes when India scored 18 or 25 runs, we glumly resigned to runs around 225. 240+ solid scores.

It is my thought that there is no 350+ or 370+ pitches. Just a good batting pitch. Coupled with good bats, arm strength and change in mindset that makes these kinds of score possible. Yea, shoddy bowling will always help.

Willing to be educated.

partha · Post by **partha** » 02 Mar 2011 21:42

Wow, Irish batsmen are batting with great maturity. No panic.

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 02 Mar 2011 21:47

SwamyG
You are right about mindsets. My point is simple too. If we had this same pitch in the early 90s a 220 score would be challenging under lights...this would have changed to 270 in early 2000s but with a post-t20 mindset now even 340 may not be a challenge. Notice how there have been only 3 maiden overs in the 2 matches in Bangalore so far, 2 of them in the Indian innings.

partha · Post by **partha** » 02 Mar 2011 21:48

Strauss under stress.

partha · Post by **partha** » 02 Mar 2011 21:51

Brilliant run out by Prior. Brien's brain miscalculated the second run.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 02 Mar 2011 21:57

Ireland win!

Zaltzman's tweets are superb:
ZaltzCricket

Rioting in Manchester, people burning effigies of Len Hutton. Not sure I'll ever be able to return home.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 02 Mar 2011 21:57

Lungi Dance, Lungi Dance

partha · Post by **partha** » 02 Mar 2011 21:58

Irish ire reduces Ashes champions to ashes.

PCB demands inquiry into England Irish match

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 Mar 2011 21:59

superb !

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 02 Mar 2011 22:00

mazaa aaa gaya!!

Jayram · Post by **Jayram** » 02 Mar 2011 22:01

People crying in the audience.. Ireland goign mad.. Incredible scenes .. Congratulations Ireland..
BTw India plays Ireland this weekend...
Going to be quite a game!!!

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 02 Mar 2011 22:02

awesome!.. and start the dhoti shiver, why our men could not do/prevent that extra run.

TI--\

dhoni's dhoti must be shivering now!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Mar 2011 22:03

"a few hard blows and the redcoats will break and run"

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 Mar 2011 22:05

Ha ha ha...
England were over the top for their 'legendary' run chase against India at this very ground a couple of days ago. Now their almost similar score was chased down in similar fashion but by Ireland. I am loving it. Nasser Hussain has made an a$$ of himself in commentary box as well with weird and emotional words.
ജെട്ടി കീറി! (chaddi phat gaya)

archan · Post by **archan** » 02 Mar 2011 22:11

WTF!!!! they were 205/5 when I last saw the score. Goes to show why one should never work in life.

Damm I need to go again.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 Mar 2011 22:22

what did nasser hussain say ?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 02 Mar 2011 22:34

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 02 Mar 2011 22:34

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 Mar 2011 22:39

^^^
What we are like onlee 2.x million desis out here. Do you think we have that much clout, hain ji? If we had that much clout, we should get at least one match played in NJ or Bay area

India vs Australia would surely get some crowd.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 Mar 2011 22:41

Nothing spectacular MahulR. Nasser Hussein was going on and on with his one sided commentary like how Obrien may not play another innings like this. In England Vs India match when Strauss and Bell were batting around 38 or 39th over Gavaskar suggested they should take the power play then when set batsmen were at the crease as it would be difficult for new batsmen to use it later on. Nasser jumped in and said India are making mistakes right now so don't do anything silly. Later on England batting crashed in the PP just as Sunny said. Something similar happened in this match also. His judgement of the game is going wrong because of emotions. JMT onlee.

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 02 Mar 2011 22:42

Aah....what a match! The luck of the Irish indeed....

O'Brien looks like a powerfully built player....Bangalore...2 exciting matches in a row...

A miasma of fatalism seems to hang over the English Camp.....

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 02 Mar 2011 22:47

Why do we continue to host World Cups in partnershup with Terroristan (who was kicked out later), and Bhooka-nanga-desh and others? Can't we host one ourselves just in India?
I hope the next time we bid, we just bid by ourselves or let someone else have it.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 02 Mar 2011 22:47

BBC Cricket discussion section

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 Mar 2011 22:51

aha it still would be nice to hear nasser whine. and where is phast bowler cough ?

thanku tamang ji. biraders bliss to post any pom whinefest you find.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 02 Mar 2011 22:51

Buggers cheated and won against us

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 02 Mar 2011 22:56

well pogue mahone!

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 02 Mar 2011 22:57

If only Netherlands had held their nerves

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 Mar 2011 23:11

ZaltzCricket Andy Zaltzman
... And didn't we just bail out their economy. So we basically own them. England beating England here.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 03 Mar 2011 00:24

Bhhhhhhaaa Ranga khus huva................

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 03 Mar 2011 00:32

SaiK wrote:

what is that radioactive brew?

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 03 Mar 2011 01:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2DLPWu8 ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYHVf3R ... r_embedded

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 03 Mar 2011 02:44

The Irish will become the next test playing nation hah. Skewing the asian bloc voting again. While in the short term, they may side with bcci, eventually skin color will dominate. Time to cultivate Nepal and Maldives.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 03 Mar 2011 06:48

After initially doing lungi-dance after the Irish finished their epic chase, I have now realized that I may have to cower in dark places on Sunday onlee.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 03 Mar 2011 06:58

Bottom line is that we don't need to play "Bowlers" against Ireland.

1. If Bat first then score 450 runs. Sehwag to score 200 runs before 15th over.
2. If Bat second then dismiss then below 250 through crafty spin, run outs, and bowling on the on side with all fielders on the on side.

Banglore groundmen have prepared a GLASS PITCH with no grass, even bounce and no use for spinners at all. Even Minnows are chasing the world records and winning.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 03 Mar 2011 07:25

here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKkGtGYyuAs

man.. dhoni men need to watch this.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 03 Mar 2011 08:04

Stan_Savljevic wrote:The Irish will become the next test playing nation hah. Skewing the asian bloc voting again. While in the short term, they may side with bcci, eventually skin color will dominate. Time to cultivate Nepal and Maldives.

Chankian geo-politics everywhere

So then, more than Malaysia and Nepal, the Asian country that comes closest to Ireland is Afghanistan. By your line of thinking, we should help them build cricket stadia in Jalalabad and then convince them to base our Mi-35s there so we can take out match fixing pakis whenever matches are held in peshawar and also threaten the ISAF Brits if the ECB/CA acts funny. Lets make the white skinned bloc irrelevant.