Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2011

[shiv]

Pakistan is on it's way to be the true Islamic Republic. Problem is it doesn't have to be that way. The RAPE vs Army vs Mullah tug is now playing it's final chapter. The country is ripe for change in Status quo. What it means is that current Landlord RAPE leadership will have to go. Army for a long time has been playing bothe sides. On one hand sleeping with Landed gentry and on the other hand financing / training the Mullah inspired forces. And as stated earlier by me and many other members, Army is slowly shifting the Paradigm in the favour of the Mullahs.

The figures are clear Pakistan cannot continue to be a viable state at the rate of growth and rate of brrowing it is currently following. Time has come a major policy shift. Current RAPE leadership has proven without doubt that it cannot deal with it. What now Army and Mullah's fear is that if the current political structure fails then the vaccum left behind should be immediately filled without Abduls hitting the street. The whole Pakistani state which includes the three players, depends upon the Abduls not being the part of power apparatus. Army will do whatever it takes to ensure that Abduls do not have say in the power politics in future.

That is a very interesting assessment. You may well be spot on. I am not sure.

In recent days I have been wondering about the role of the Paki army. I mean it in the following sense.

The law and order (L/O) situation in Pakistan is seriously bad - with rampant acts of terrorism and ass-ass-e-nations. ("law and order bahut hai" in other words ). The Pakistani set-up for maintaining law and order is like that India as far as I can tell in the sense that civil disorder of the sort that Pakisatan is having is dealt with by the police forces under state control and central forces or even the army can be called in for special problems.

So technically one could say that no matter how bad the L/O situation the army does not come out on its own unless ordered by the civilian government. But AFAICT in Pakisatan the Army has come out and taken over in situations that were less grave than this. So in this instance the Paki army has a fine alibi. Kiyani saluted Gilani remember? The army is "under civilian control". Just like any sane state. So the army can claim it is not stepping in because the civilian government has not seen fit to call the army to help impose L/O.

is this the correct explanation? Somehow I don't believe it. Pakistan is in deep doodoo and the police are unable to maintain security, and the army has neither been called in nor has it stepped in. What gives?

is it possible that the army, that takes its support from islamist yahoos and Qadris does not dare to step in? Invited or uninvited?

[pran]

People kissing feet of Landlord in Pakistan

[SSridhar]

See this fotu: Paki Rangers and BSF fight

http://epaper.indianexpress.com/IE/IEH/ ... tml?Mode=1

Ouch that must have hurt TFTA Mard. He has brought shame to the Proud, Bakistani Kaum. Had it been Mughlaiya Sultanate, he would have got his revenge in a group attack.

He is Wajib-ul-cuttle

He is a prime candidate for qital not only because a kafir lady rained a few punches but also because he tried to do a Gilani and was singularly unsuccessful. On both counts a mard deserves punishment.

[RajeshA]

I think, all Pakistani federal ministers should be feeling themselves as Wah-ajeeb-bull-cattle!

[Aditya_V]

quote="chandrabhan"]

See this fotu: Paki Rangers and BSF fight

http://epaper.indianexpress.com/IE/IEH/ ... tml?Mode=1

Ouch that must have hurt TFTA Mard. He has brought shame to the Proud, Bakistani Kaum. Had it been Mughlaiya Sultanate, he would have got his revenge in a group attack.

He is Wajib-ul-cuttle/quote]
He is a prime candidate for qital not only because a kafir lady rained a few punches but also because he tried to do a Gilani and was singularly unsuccessful. On both counts a mard deserves punishment.

I think it is better we cancel this cermony than exposing BSF serving persons- especially women to such Barbarians. Who cares whether this ceremony is there or not?

[shravan]

Gunmen kill six tribal policemen in Khyber

[SSridhar]

So technically one could say that no matter how bad the L/O situation the army does not come out on its own unless ordered by the civilian government. But AFAICT in Pakisatan the Army has come out and taken over in situations that were less grave than this. So in this instance the Paki army has a fine alibi. Kiyani saluted Gilani remember? The army is "under civilian control". Just like any sane state. So the army can claim it is not stepping in because the civilian government has not seen fit to call the army to help impose L/O.

Shiv, it works like this. The civilian government, on its own, can never order the Army to come out. That would be blasphemous demanding immediate wajib-ul-qital. The PA informs the Civilian Government that it is about to take control of the situation and the civilian government then makes proper announcements to that effect.

is it possible that the army, that takes its support from islamist yahoos and Qadris does not dare to step in? Invited or uninvited?

The PA is deeply worried. It can no longer take for granted the loyalty of its soldiers to the commanding officers. This uncertainty extends, even among officers, all the way up the chain of command to Gen. Kiyani. The PA therefore does not wish to involve itself in these matters at this point. Besides, the PA is completely against Zardari and would not like to intervene even if the situation demands intervention. A couple of days back, Nawaz Sharif, for the very first time in ten years (since his exile & return) has spoken of PML-N willing to take over the reins of the government if it came to that. It has also broken off the alliance with PPP in the Punjab. Between the two, Zardari & Nawaz, the PA prefers Nawaz though he is no longer the blue eyed boy as he was during Zia's days. For Zardari and the Bhutto clan, there is nothing but utter hatred and contempt among the PA Corps Commanders. They would therefore give as much rope to Zardari as possible to hang himself with. The PA calculation is also that the more the chaos the better becomes the ability of Pakistan to extract aid from its 3½ Friends. Only normal countries worry about worsening Law & Order. Pakistan believes that the worst conditions will bring out the best of Islam.

[amit]

The BSF jawan who rained blows on the TFTA mard is a woman. Shame on pakis , got beaten up by a SDRE woman. I think this should be shown to as many pakis as possible and see the reaction

Brilliant! Made my day. I have saved the image and will use it somewhere. Well done beti!

Did anyone notice that the Bharat Mata ki Beti is taller than the TFTA mard?

[manjgu]

sorry guys.. how did u conclude BSF trooper is a lady? to me looks like a Male ( atleast by the rear profile) !! sorry to spoil the fun

[rkirankr]

sorry guys.. how did u conclude BSF trooper is a lady? to me looks like a Male ( atleast by the rear profile) !! sorry to spoil the fun

See the hair on the head tied as a bun under their caps/hats. Men would not be allowed to have so much hair. Do not say it is a Sikh, I believe they wear turbans and the hair would not be visible

[biswas]

The BSF officer has no female detailing, the hair is not in a bun. The hips are like a mans, the shoulders are too broad, it's a man.

[Suppiah]

Let us, for a moment, make the assumption that the top ranks of the army are not, attitude or appearance wise, are not loonies and

(1) convinced they need to keep their hands on the wheel to make sure the state goes in the right direction given the political class and its abilities and
(2) convinced the best way forward for Pakistan is to break up India or deal a strategic blow and therefore keep control over Afghanistan, foreign policy et al
(3) are not bearded barbarians themselves but feel the bearded barbarians provide cheap labor and foot soldiers for the cause and why not make use of them?
(4) are trying to figure out the best way to keep the economy growing and TSP a non-failed state without losing (1) to (3) above.

What will change this situation?

The violence and mayhem so far does not change much. Because it is part of the 'cost' that any soldier feels he has to pay to get what he wants. (Even assuming the cost pains him, that is by no means true because of the huge disconnect between Abduls and Generals, racially and otherwise. Remember no general has been 72d so far by the beards)

If the economic chaos that goes with mayhem were to allow to run its course it will change Army's thinking but then Unkil and Saudibaric Animal kingdom's obnoxious royals are willing to provide unlimited funds and thus take away that limiting factor...

The WKKs are hoping that somehow being nice to the generals and offering another 1000 Hindus (of the BJP kind) as sacrificial lambs for slaughter through terrorism and turning the other cheek will one day change them to Mother Teresa's...less said about that the better...

Unkil so far has been thinking if the price is anyway paid by SDRE why bother?

Stalinist rapist goons' paymasters in Beijing are rubbing their hands in glee because India is kept low at zero cost...

What can break the status quo?

IMHO the only trigger (assuming India does not launch a war) will be when mango Abduls come out on street protesting and mullahs take over using that as an excuse. Then both Saudi and Unkil will lay off, scared of the consequences for themselves (not India)

Every culling of animals and every killing of humans like Bhatti is a step in that direction..

May Allah give them all the strength and power!

[rkirankr]

The BSF officer has no female detailing, the hair is not in a bun. The hips are like a mans, the shoulders are too broad, it's a man.

Well bun or bread, I do not what hair styling is that, but definitely, I have seen only women police officers, CRP etc tie their hair in that way. No man will be allowed to have so much hair. Anyway no more posts from me on this.

[Aditya_V]

The BSF officer has no female detailing, the hair is not in a bun. The hips are like a mans, the shoulders are too broad, it's a man.

Well bun or bread, I do not what hair styling is that, but definitely, I have seen only women police officers, CRP etc tie their hair in that way. No man will be allowed to have so much hair. Anyway no more posts from me on this.

1 year ago BSF deputed only women to the ceremony ever sicne BSF personal complained about Foot Fractures from the Foot Stamping ceremony.

[Sri]

sorry guys.. how did u conclude BSF trooper is a lady? to me looks like a Male ( atleast by the rear profile) !! sorry to spoil the fun

From past 1 year women are doing the ceremony. look at the hair... Definately a hasina chasing a dog...

[Sri]

So technically one could say that no matter how bad the L/O situation the army does not come out on its own unless ordered by the civilian government. But AFAICT in Pakisatan the Army has come out and taken over in situations that were less grave than this. So in this instance the Paki army has a fine alibi. Kiyani saluted Gilani remember? The army is "under civilian control". Just like any sane state. So the army can claim it is not stepping in because the civilian government has not seen fit to call the army to help impose L/O.

Shiv, it works like this. The civilian government, on its own, can never order the Army to come out. That would be blasphemous demanding immediate wajib-ul-qital. The PA informs the Civilian Government that it is about to take control of the situation and the civilian government then makes proper announcements to that effect.

is it possible that the army, that takes its support from islamist yahoos and Qadris does not dare to step in? Invited or uninvited?

The PA is deeply worried. It can no longer take for granted the loyalty of its soldiers to the commanding officers. This uncertainty extends, even among officers, all the way up the chain of command to Gen. Kiyani. The PA therefore does not wish to involve itself in these matters at this point. Besides, the PA is completely against Zardari and would not like to intervene even if the situation demands intervention. A couple of days back, Nawaz Sharif, for the very first time in ten years (since his exile & return) has spoken of PML-N willing to take over the reins of the government if it came to that. It has also broken off the alliance with PPP in the Punjab. Between the two, Zardari & Nawaz, the PA prefers Nawaz though he is no longer the blue eyed boy as he was during Zia's days. For Zardari and the Bhutto clan, there is nothing but utter hatred and contempt among the PA Corps Commanders. They would therefore give as much rope to Zardari as possible to hang himself with. The PA calculation is also that the more the chaos the better becomes the ability of Pakistan to extract aid from its 3½ Friends. Only normal countries worry about worsening Law & Order. Pakistan believes that the worst conditions will bring out the best of Islam.

SS Sir, as always spot on. But my assesment is a bit diffrent this time. I think it's not only the PPP they want to get rid of,this time whole RAPE zamindars are going to be replaced.

As you said enough rope is provided to Zardari to hang himself with. I think this time even PMLN and others are going to hung too. RD is a case in point. PPP is inclined to send him back to US. Initially Qureshi refused to sign on immunity, that is beacuse he is seen to be closer to Army leadership then Wazeer e azam, so he was removed. Then PPP started making noices to that end with Dr Fozia coming out and making a case for immunity. Then Army torpedoed the plan by claiming Davis was a CIA Agent and all that.

On the other hand PML N and MQM have already started making pro Army noices may be by judging the wind. My bet is that this time army is going to try the 3rd option, that is the Mullah Option.

Why they would do that?

Well for starters your post explains it beautifully. The rank and file of the army now has a strong Islamic bend. So the top leadership in my view has no choice in that. As an organisation PA is now moving towards jihadi ideology with full fervour....

[RamaY]

Shiv, it works like this. The civilian government, on its own, can never order the Army to come out. That would be blasphemous demanding immediate wajib-ul-qital. The PA informs the Civilian Government that it is about to take control of the situation and the civilian government then makes proper announcements to that effect.

The PA is deeply worried.
...

Mango-pakis will come on to streets one day or other as Paki economy further slips into toilet as that is the only way mango-pakis can drain their frustrations.

Such a Green revolution (the only color acceptable to pakis) needs a "dictator" to be the fall guy. TSPA can never be in that situation if it wants to survive. That is the USP of Zardari, that is his life line; to be the "fall guy" in the future green revolution.

But Zardari is too smart for that. He is like our MMS. He would forgo any/every presidential authority needed so he appears as not the dictator to stay on the gaddi. How can mango-abduls can be galvanized against a toothless, joker president, especially when the whole world knows the power and authority of Zardari? That is how a color revolution is avoided in Pakistan. This is same as in India as people don't see any point in voting out MMS as he is too useless for that, and the real enemies of the state hide behind him.

If/when TSPA or a powerful leaders takes direct control of Pakistan, only then a color revolution will be purposeful for the "bad" taliban.

[shiv]

The BSF officer has no female detailing, the hair is not in a bun. The hips are like a mans, the shoulders are too broad, it's a man.

IMO its a wimmens. A tall TFTA wimmens whom I would salute and not elbow, but a wimmens nevertheless.

[SSridhar]

My bet is that this time army is going to try the 3rd option, that is the Mullah Option.

Sri, my dear name-sharer, I do not disagree with you at all except in a small way. It is not the PA that will try out the mullah option, it will be the mullah who will order the PA to do seize the country for them and hand it over. People are worried about some roguish element of the PA seizing the nukes (and hence the much funded screening programme with US help), but what if the whole PA exhibits such a behaviour ? I am convinced that one fine day, not in the too distant future, there will be dramatic events in our neighbourhood putting us in greatest danger.

[Lalmohan]

looks like mullahs here have been too long in the LMU kave kamplex
after a few dins, juniyar abduls (or BSF jawans) start to look like motorhams and khushboos to their jihad weary eyes...

[Mihaylo]

See this fotu: Paki Rangers and BSF fight

http://epaper.indianexpress.com/IE/IEH/ ... tml?Mode=1

Also, the paki turd crossed the "line of control" - literally and actually (his foot is on our side of the border).
This link is going on my facebook. Definitely a keeper. All that is required to further flush paki enchandee further down the sh#t hole is a belly popping, paan chewing, crotch scratching pandu to do the opening and closing ceremonies and occasionally to beat them up.

[vijayk]

One Paki wonders...
Lovers' Tiff... Or Impending Divorce?

Much is being made of these revelations, but to an outsider it seems obvious that his status cannot have been a surprise to the ISI. You cannot have 5 CIA agents renting houses in Lahore and tailing people without the ISI knowing about it. Nor would it be a huge surprise to learn that a CIA agent was there under diplomatic cover; all countries get diplomatic status for their spies and if the host country does not like a spy, they can always kick him out by declaring him persona non grata.

Does the ISI want a divorce or is this a lover’s quarrel, to be made up after the CIA coughs up flowers and some new concessions? It seems the smart money is on the latter scenario (making up after a tiff, rather than an actual divorce). Pakistani friends whose opinion I respect insist that Pakistan has the US over a barrel right now and will get what it wants, then quietly let Raymond go, or arrange some other face-saving deal for all concerned.

One hopes they know what they are doing, but people who are old enough to remember 1971and Kargil may be excused for feeling a little trepidation; this crowd has been known to overestimate their skills. The irony is, Kiyani sahib is probably the smartest man to ever hold that exalted position at the head of GHQ (and is an amazing genius compared to the last man in that position) and it will be sad to see things go south on his watch.

When I wrote about “Pakistan predictions”last month, I got some flak from liberal friends for being insensitive and politically incorrect (too negative about certain third world groups, not enough condemnation of American imperialism)

1. The Imran Khan delusion: this delusion holds that all was well in Afghanistan and Pakistan until America invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and upset the peaceful status quo. According to this version of events the US and other powers got General Zia to arm and train Jihadist terrorists to fight the Russians in Afghanistan (no Pakistani interest in this scheme is implied) and then left Afghanistan without building schools and hospitals in 1992.

First of all, the jihadi project was indeed a CIA project, but it was also ourproject from the very beginning. America wanted Russia humbled in Afghanistan, but we wanted that humbling to be done by Islamist jihadis under our control. Our leaders (specifically Zia and Akhtar Abdul Rahman) also had the “vision” to see in this an opportunity to settle scores with India and plant the seeds of a wider area of influence in Central Asia, and so on and so forth. Second, after the CIA finished its dirty business in Afghanistan and left, “we” multiplied the jihadi infrastructure by 10. We redirected it to Kashmir and spread it throughout Pakistan. Of course the Westoxicated middle class had very little notion of what was going on. These were serious things, handled by serious people in the security establishment, not shared with the rest of the country except on a “need to know basis”. But it is disingenuous to think the multiplication of jihadi militias throughout the nineties was also America's fault (though the US did ignore it, perhaps because they thought it improves their leverage over India, perhaps because they were busy with other things). Then, after 9-11 (which was not an inside job in my view, primarily because I see no reason to think that the US secret agencies are capable of such vast and successful deception), “we” (the Pakistani security services) protected good jihadis and failed to go after their indoctrination and finance pipelines because “we" wanted the infrastructure kept alive for future use against India.

It will also not succeed if Saudi and Gulf financing is not being intercepted. In short, it will not stop unless the India-centric, zero-sum national security mindset is changed because that mindset leads to these people and their mentors being protected. For proof of this, you need to look no further than Musharraf’s moronic interviews with Der Spiegel and theAtlantic council . In fact Put those interviews together with Admiral Fasih Bokhari's article and you can see that the overgrown adolescents who are America's great white hope in Pakistan are perhaps more dangerous and deluded than the ball-scratching, nose-dripping, corrupt gangsters in the civilian political parties.

2. The romantic Left delusion. This is the belief that Pakistan’s corrupt elite deserves to be overthrown by the lower classes and the Taliban are (an unfortunate but expected) instrument of this necessary revolution. Actually the first part of this delusion is not a delusion. The Pakistani elite is not just corrupt, they have been practically suicidal. Where other corrupt third world elites have mismanaged the state, provided poor governance, oppressed the poor and failed to evolve a stable political system, Pakistan’s elite (which in this case means the army high command and their supporters) have done something no other third world elite has managed. They have armed, trained and encouraged their own executioners in the course of a demented scheme of trying to wrest Kashmir from India while laying the foundation for a mini-empire in central Asia. But the second part of this delusion is the real delusion here. The Pakistani Taliban is not the Bolshevik party; in fact, they are not even the Iranian Mullahs. They were created by the army as an outgrowth of the American-sponsored Afghan jihad. Their leadership is derived from the Madrasahs and think tanks sponsored by Saudi money and inspired by Syed Qutb and the most virulent Wahhabi and Salafist clerics in the world. They were guided by the jihadist faction of GHQ, men inspired by Maudoodi and his children, not by Marx or even Ali Shariati.

So, coming back to our original topic: does the Raymond Davis affair reflect a lover’s spat or an impending divorce? My guess is that its not a divorce. The US has few options and so does Pakistan. We are probably in for more of the same, but with a chance that one of these days the ISI will find itself the victim of too much success and will not be able to pull back from the brink of divorce. Meanwhile, when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything is a nail. So I expect the state department to pass out more money to GHQ, I expect the CIA to fund some new insane lunatic fringe to counter their last lunatic fringe, I expect the Pentagon to ask for more money for weapons and a good hard "shock and awe campaign", I expect professors in San Francisco to blame colonialism, and I expect Islamists to blow themselves up with even greater devotion. May Allah protect us from anything worse.

[Sri]

My bet is that this time army is going to try the 3rd option, that is the Mullah Option.

Sri, my dear name-sharer, I do not disagree with you at all except in a small way. It is not the PA that will try out the mullah option, it will be the mullah who will order the PA to do seize the country for them and hand it over. People are worried about some roguish element of the PA seizing the nukes (and hence the much funded screening programme with US help), but what if the whole PA exhibits such a behaviour ? I am convinced that one fine day, not in the too distant future, there will be dramatic events in our neighbourhood putting us in greatest danger.

SS sir, so what you are saying is that since Mullahs with nukes will be unacceptable for the world, the Mullahs have successfully now controlled PA itself.

If aboveis true, it will be bad bad news for us indeed. India's lack of options here are indeed frustrating.

[Sri]

Only normal countries worry about worsening Law & Order. Pakistan believes that the worst conditions will bring out the best of Islam.

This line is a keeper. So right and articulate. Going to my list of quotable quotes with due credits ofcourse.

[RajeshA]

Mango-pakis will come on to streets one day or other as Paki economy further slips into toilet as that is the only way mango-pakis can drain their frustrations.

Such a Green revolution (the only color acceptable to pakis) needs a "dictator" to be the fall guy. TSPA can never be in that situation if it wants to survive. That is the USP of Zardari, that is his life line; to be the "fall guy" in the future green revolution.

But Zardari is too smart for that. <snip> He would forgo any/every presidential authority needed so he appears as not the dictator to stay on the gaddi. How can mango-abduls can be galvanized against a toothless, joker president, especially when the whole world knows the power and authority of Zardari? That is how a color revolution is avoided in Pakistan. <snip>

If/when TSPA or a powerful leaders takes direct control of Pakistan, only then a color revolution will be purposeful for the "bad" taliban.

RamaY ji,

I think, that is a very succinct summary of Zardari's longevity! If in almost every tussle with Kiyani, or even Gilani, Zardari appears to cave in, and the newspapers show that prominently, then the Pakistani awam knows that Zardari has no power.

Some think, that Kiyani is putting pressure on Zardari and PPP on Raymond Davis Affair, by not releasing him, even as Zardari wants to do so. It is the other way around. Zardari is showing that he is quite powerless, and even though he may wish to do American bidding, he cannot. He cannot get even one man released. He is useless.

So even as he stays in Government, and enjoys all the perks of Government, and does whistle tours of the world, he is sending out a very clear message to the Awam - he is powerless. In fact the PPP Government is powerless.

When the Americans come calling, Zardari is more than happy that he gets his token visits, where he can put some glitter on himself and fool his guests of his importance, at least capable of some odd errands. But he is also happy that they go and meet the Army men, Kiyani, so that he can show that the American love affair is with the Army and not with him. He is more than happy when news leaks out, that the Pakistani Army is providing the Americans the air bases from where the drones fly. He may in fact be making all those leaks himself, or he may be using some body else, with a better grasp of English, to do the leaking.

Zardari is balancing Awam's hate at him, with his show of powerlessness. That is how he can deflect the ire of the Awam. He can tell them to look for people who really made the decisions. He is just a joker, as you say. So whom does the Awam throw out in the next revolution - some powerless people who were squatting on government property.

Zardari is balancing Army's passion for power in Pakistan by the sheer level of mismanagement and malgovernance. He is telling the Army, that everything is broken, and if they take over, they will be in the firing line and would have to fix everything, starting with the dekhonomoney.

Zardari is balancing any threats of internal revolt, simply by giving Groper a major share of executive power, for himself reserving simply the leadership of PPP. As long as the party remains in power, and everybody gets his chance to fill his pockets, they will leave him alone.

Zardari is balancing any American pressure, by being quite forthcoming on secondary issues for Americans, like some Afghanistan-Pakistan trade deals, etc, or getting his pick for Ambassador in USA, Mr. Hussain Haqqani to expedite the visas for any American CIA or otherwise contractors to Pakistan. But when it comes to the tough decisions he lets the Americans deal directly with Kiyani.

Zardari knows that it is not for him to build up the cult of Bhutto, and his son Bilawal would only get his support from his Bhutto legacy and not from the Zardari legacy, so it doesn't really matter if he messes up the country. He has succeeded in securing the Presidency of the party for Bilawal, as well as securing a clique around Bilawal. That is all that matters as his personal contribution.

In Pakistan all rivers flow the other way! Pakistan gets foreign investment not because it is a safe destination but rather because it is unstable. Zardari's position is strong not because he has been a great President for Pakistan, but exactly because he is overseeing the ruin of Pakistan.

A-o-A

[RamaY]

RajeshA-ji

You saw the point thru the deliberate <snip>its

That could be one reason for non-response from dus-percenti for India's talks-at-any-cost invitations. That would make his line bigger than needed.

How to seed the green revolution in pure land?

[A_Gupta]

Guardian Editorial

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... baz-bhatti

One by one, those who stick their head above the parapet to demand changes in Pakistan's infamous blasphemy law are being gunned down. First Salmaan Taseer, the governor of Punjab, and now Shahbaz Bhatti, Islamabad's minister for minorities, himself a Christian. To say these men were liberals is to posit a false dichotomy. The people gunning them down are not conservatives. They are people who impose their authority by suicide bombings and murder. Their form of argument is terror, and the battle which should be fought against them by anyone who upholds freedom of belief should be as clear on the streets of Islamabad as it is in the foothills of Waziristan.

But everyone recoils. The government backs off through a misguided sense of self-preservation. Weak and fragile, it believes it is being goaded into a conflict it cannot win. So it retreats, backing up against a precipice over which it will eventually fall. Instead of mobilising mass demonstrations against the killings, the Pakistan Peoples party appeases the very forces responsible for the murder of its former leader Benazir Bhutto. The next woman on the death list is Sherry Rehman. Rather than support her bid to reform the blasphemy law and hold the debate where it truly resides, with elected representatives in a parliament (what else was the struggle to end military rule all about?), the PPP prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, hung his former information minister out to dry. Under pressure from religious clerics, he claimed that she had voluntarily withdrawn a bill proposing changes to the law. She had done no such thing. After ruling out reforms, Mr Gilani invited religious leaders to tell him how to prevent misuse of a law. The bulk of the law's victims are Muslim rather than Christian, the latest being a 17-year-old student being held in a juvenile prison after having written allegedly blasphemous remarks on an exam paper. If Mr Gilani becomes the last liberal left standing, he will not be standing for long.

The state, too, recoils. The army cultivated and supported the militants as proxy weapons for their own strategic purposes in Kashmir and Afghanistan. Soldiers are the Taliban's principal targets, but links with the militants are still maintained by some of their officers. The judiciary is also party to these suicidal games. Estranged from her party, Ms Rehman is exposed to prosecution in Lahore and Multan on petitions to get her disqualified as an MP and have her tried for blasphemy. This is not justice. It is legal persecution and any court should have thrown these petitions out. The government, the army, the courts are all playing with fire. Appeasement never works and, in the end, that flame will consume them all.

[rgsrini]

The BSF officer has no female detailing, the hair is not in a bun. The hips are like a mans, the shoulders are too broad, it's a man.

Wow! you seem to be really certain about this...
How about a simple sanity check with Uncle Google before typing "The BSF officer has no female detailing"

BSF women will man India-Pak border from tommorow

"At this point of time, their primary duty will be limited to guarding the border gates and frisking of women going across the fence for farming. But they will cover all the BOPs (border outposts). Besides, they will also facilitate spectators for the Retreat ceremony at the Attari-Wagah border near Amritsar city,"

I really think there is something wrong with people who think the person on the photo is a man. There is no surprise that our women folk will beat the crap out of TSP junkies anyday...

I hope our TimesNow and NDTV contacts can play a role in getting a video of this incident. This deserves a permanent place in Youtube... I also think this deserves an inline image in BRF. I request someone with expertise to do that as well.

Have a good day Paklurks! Your men are physically beaten up by our women folk and your cricket team's collective "rearend" was handed to them on a platter by the Canadian minnows. I think you should do what you know best to take this frustration out. Go and punch a "Hari" and declare that he/she was blasphemous and take over their property.

[JE Menon]

One point to bring to attention of all, as far as Sherry is concerned, Gilani had been of the opinion that she was wajib ul cuddle well before wajib ul qital, let's be clear on that.

So that Canadian visa may still be on the cards.

[shiv]

I hope our TimesNow and NDTV contacts can play a role in getting a video of this incident. This deserves a permanent place in Youtube... I also think this deserves an inline image in BRF. I request someone with expertise to do that as well.

In fact it should be shown in every movie theatre in the country just before the main movie begins.

[rgsrini]

Thanks for the inline image ShivJi.

I love the expressions on the people who are watching. Everyone seems to be happy that the guy is getting beaten up. If only we can get in touch with the guy (top right) who appears to be recording this on his cell phone...

[saip]

Thanks for the inline image ShivJi.

I love the expressions on the people who are watching. Everyone seems to be happy that the guy is getting beaten up. If only we can get in touch with the guy (top right) who appears to be recording this on his cell phone...

But he would be a Pakistani?

[RajeshA]

Thanks for the inline image ShivJi.

I love the expressions on the people who are watching. Everyone seems to be happy that the guy is getting beaten up. If only we can get in touch with the guy (top right) who appears to be recording this on his cell phone...

But he would be a Pakistani?

So what? Put up a reward. He may just call back.

[saip]

Sorry guys, from this Biswas may be right:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100829/punjab.htm#11

A few weeks ago, India had made women part of the beating retreat ceremony. But they play only a peripheral role in this highly emotive exercise. “Actually our women recruits just pilot the BSF jawans, who conduct the ceremony along with Pakistan Rangers. Women recruits do not take part in the real action of lowering the flag, the high-stomping parade etc,” said a BSF official.

Also, women seem to dress differently.

[milindc]

TimesNow just showed couple of more pics, it is definitely not a woman ...

[rgsrini]

Sigh... You can't allow a guy to have some fun.

Anyway. I take back my word. I agree that TFTA Paki men did not get beat up by SDRE women today.
What an achievement for TSP!!!

[shiv]

Sigh... You can't allow a guy to have some fun.

Anyway. I take back my word. I agree that our women folk have not beaten up the TFTA Paki men folk yet.
What an achievement for TSP!!!

Saar no man has a slender waist like that tapering down from shoulders and the slender delicate lines of the leg. That is a wimmens I tell ya. A tall wimmens selected for the worthy job of pakibashing.

[rgsrini]

Sorry to edit and change my line on you Shiv.

As previously suggested in BRF, I am waiting for the Paan chewing pot bellied chowkidar with a "gilli danda" in one hand, scratching his crotch with the other and using his behind to close the "great Wagah gate".

[Narad]

It seems that no one wants to be in the Sh!t hole meant for Islamic puritans.

US girl ran away to avoid Pakistan marriage

[arun]

George ka khuda hafiz — I By George Fulton

Pakistan, you are on a precipice. A wafer-thin sliver is all that stands between you and becoming a failed state. A state that was the culmination of a search for a ‘Muslim space’ by the wealthy Muslims of Northern India has ended up, as MJ Akbar recently pointed out, becoming “one of the most violent nations on earth, not because Hindus were killing Muslims but because Muslims were killings Muslims”. {Snipped} .............

The second part of the Swan Song by George Fulton :

George ka khuda hafiz — II