The Cricket World Cup Thread

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Mar 2011 15:01

CRamS wrote: Boss, I was at the stadium and had a great time watching the match up close. I would not call Ireland a lowly team. I would say their fielding is the best, even better than white Pakis.

Guys:

Cut our boys some slack. Why is everybody piling on them. As far as I am concerned, they are giving 100%, they have loads of talent, and I will back them all the way. There are weak points no doubt, mainly bowling and fielding. But which team does not have soft spots.

For all the criticism of the men in blue, just remember that they have not lost a match yet. I would rather have them go into the QF with some growing pains than peak early and fizzle out later.

You have timed your Desh visit quite well ! Have a good stay.

As for the 'lowly' tag, well, they are not in the top of the pile in spite of their heroics now and then. But, I agree they gave us a scare yesterday. Had that Trent Johnston guy not broken his knee cap, we might have had even more jitters. Who knows what might have happened ?

Of course, we have not lost a match yet. But, our performance so far has not been very inspiring either. We allowed BD to come quite close. There were times when we were worried during that match. Even 370 did not appear enough. We managed next to 'tie' a match that we should have won. We did not beat the Irish comfortably yesterday. If everyone agrees that our bowling and fielding are pathetic, then we have to have a more solid batting than we displayed against the Brits & the Irish, if we have to advance. I simply hate India advancing to QF etc riding on somebody else's misfortunes.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 07 Mar 2011 15:23

Against Netherlands, there will be changes. Ashwin will come in. And I hope Raina comes in too - in place of God. Rest Zaheer and test Nehra/Pranthan. Piyush Chawla may not get a game after the Netherlands one. Doubt if he'll get one there either. And why is that d#ck bhajji being let off that easy? Comes around the stumps and fires it down the leg side. He's hardly there.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 07 Mar 2011 15:27

SSridhar wrote:We allowed BD to come quite close. There were times when we were worried during that match.

IIRC, only that Pranthan over got everybody hurrying for cover. But apart from that it was plain cake walk. Ofcourse, had we scored anything around 300, we would've got our a$$e$ kicked.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 07 Mar 2011 15:40

I simply hate India advancing to QF etc riding on somebody else's misfortunes.

No quibbles with the earlier part of the post, but where did the above happen? An opposing batsman getting out, playing loose shots is not misfortune, it is the ebb and flow of the game no? You cant say, oh we won, because BD/Ireland/England player played a loose shot. By that reasoning I could argue only reason England/Ireland/BD ever came close was because our batsmen played loose shots else we would be 1800 without loss

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 07 Mar 2011 15:47

Dmurphy wrote:And why is that d#ck bhajji being let off that easy? Comes around the stumps and fires it down the leg side. He's hardly there.

Because of his new found so called talent to bat. He has made sure that he gets selected even if he bowls badly

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Mar 2011 15:49

Tanaji wrote:
I simply hate India advancing to QF etc riding on somebody else's misfortunes.
No quibbles with the earlier part of the post, but where did the above happen? An opposing batsman getting out, playing loose shots is not misfortune, it is the ebb and flow of the game no? You cant say, oh we won, because BD/Ireland/England player played a loose shot. By that reasoning I could argue only reason England/Ireland/BD ever came close was because our batsmen played loose shots else we would be 1800 without loss

Oh, I didn't mean that. I meant events like rain washing out somebody else's game in our group, then we get the chance to advance to QF etc. eventhough we were not in the reckoning.

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 07 Mar 2011 15:54

Adithya wrote

Ashish Nehra is the Hero we are waiting for solving our bowling troubles.

True, I think he is being saved for QF and SF, F(if we get there). He can destroy opposition batting lineup, but then he will be down with Injury till WC 2019

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 07 Mar 2011 16:25

My two cents on the ireland game yesterday - I think we played pretty well. Of the five wickets we lost, 3 had to do nothing with ireland and can happen in any match. GG and Sehwag getting caught and Kohli getting run out were mistakes made by our batsmen - they were not induced by irish bowlers. Another thing - the wicket was definetly not easy to play on. It was not 'slam-bam-thankyou-mam' type of surface where one could blast the bowlers to kingdome come. It required a focused approach with singles being the order of the day. And I think we did that correctly. It required patient approach - and irish did bowl wicket-to-wicket. This was kind of surface where batsmen would get out because of their own mistakes - like playing across the line. The bowlers just had to be consistent in terms of their line and length. The hardwork had to be done by the batsmen.We did not fall for that trap.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 07 Mar 2011 17:09

Skipping India vs Netherlands and looking ahead to our next game vs South Africa, does anyone knows what kind of pitch is at VCA, Nagpur for ODIs ? In the past for test they have prepared green turf just like Gabba, Brisbane how it is for ODIs ?

Also, what is India's ODI record at Nagpur ?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Mar 2011 17:32

the irish also had some pretty good field placements I thought.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Mar 2011 18:35

irish kaptaan was a smart cookie, played very well
are these boys getting snapped up for IPL? i am sure they are all playing their best to get sold!!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 Mar 2011 21:27

Why not have all 11 as batsmen, huh? 50x6=300 balls, let us hit each ball for a six and amass 1800. Then we will surely win onlee. 10 players get to bowl 5 overs each too.

My take is we lack some fire and discpline. A danda in musharraf will go some way in rectifying the current situation.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 07 Mar 2011 21:37

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CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Mar 2011 22:06

rohitvats wrote:My two cents on the ireland game yesterday - I think we played pretty well. Of the five wickets we lost, 3 had to do nothing with ireland and can happen in any match. GG and Sehwag getting caught and Kohli getting run out were mistakes made by our batsmen - they were not induced by irish bowlers. Another thing - the wicket was definetly not easy to play on. It was not 'slam-bam-thankyou-mam' type of surface where one could blast the bowlers to kingdome come. It required a focused approach with singles being the order of the day. And I think we did that correctly. It required patient approach - and irish did bowl wicket-to-wicket. This was kind of surface where batsmen would get out because of their own mistakes - like playing across the line. The bowlers just had to be consistent in terms of their line and length. The hardwork had to be done by the batsmen.We did not fall for that trap.

You make many good points, but one disagreemnt. First, what got me nervous was that we might actually loose the match, espcially after the Gawd was out, then Kohli run out, and finally Dhonii; yes even though 40 odd only were required after Dhino got out, a wicket or more would have put India under tremendous pressure. It was Pathan's merciless blasting that saw India home. Man, he is ruthless.

Now to the disagreement. The Irish fielding was so brilliant, and their bowling on the mark, that they forced Indian batsman to make errors. This was certainly the case with GG, Gawd, and Dhoni. They were bogged down by the Irish, and hence they attempted risky shots. Thats they power of good fielding and accurate bowling. It forces errors.

And I completely agree with you, its not just Indian batsman, anybody would have found it not so easy scoring freely against the Irish yesterday. Whats it about these pitches, one day its batting strip, and a few days later, the same strip favors bowlers.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 07 Mar 2011 22:17

Yes, I agree Irish were bowling to the good length spot most of the time.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 07 Mar 2011 22:27

^^^^^
wonder why you guys are shivering in your dhotis.

it is all part and parcel of game.
cricket is a game of glorious uncertainties.(as along as TI wins

)
If TI had lost there is the usual ritual dhoti washing in the open but now....

chillax and enjoi.

(now running back to long leg to cover myself in dhoti

)

negi · Post by **negi** » 07 Mar 2011 22:30

Firstly Bangaluru pitch is the flattest pitch which TI will get to play on and in fact whatever little assistance the pitch had to offer to the spinners was when the sun was beating down during the day and that is why Dhoni elected to bowl when he won the toss; it's a no brainier that batting on our wickets becomes easier under the lights as the ball comes on to the bat and in extreme cases the dew causes issues for the fielding side. When desi sobers and Dhoni were fresh at the crease they were not even playing at the correct line (they played and missed at quite a few from the Irish medium pacers) so slow/turning pitch is not even an issue. The need for the 7th batsman is essentially to cover up for these usual suspects in our middle order. All in all we are gonna be in trouble when both SRT and Sehwag fail to make 50 or more runs in an innings.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 07 Mar 2011 22:32

I say Dutch going to win....TI will be allout below 200

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 07 Mar 2011 22:53

Marten wrote:I say this again, the true test of how good this team is will be against West Indies on a rank turner in Chennai. Horror would be against Pollard and Gayle who will love the conditions. (<-- yes, both do well on such pitches).

+1 onlee. I shudder to think what Gayle is going to do our bowlers. O'Brien's record may not last very long. And looking at what they did to Bangladesh, their bowling doesn't look all that bad either.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Mar 2011 23:00

this is the weakest dhoti shivering bowling attack we've had in years...

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 07 Mar 2011 23:01

how about pranthan for WI? at least some yelling behind dhoti shivers,

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 07 Mar 2011 23:06

simble solution to all the dhoti shiverers- remove your dhotis- no dhoti no shivers.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 08 Mar 2011 00:04

I have only heard of stripping one's pants off! dhotis are much easier to do with no button shutton stuffs. Anyways I want mccullum and guptill, cull and till the packis.

--

In spite of players coming from India, SL, pakis, Oz, and Caribbeans islands, the Canadians failed to put together a powerful team.

niran · Post by **niran** » 08 Mar 2011 08:57

stop the press:

just heard SA kapitan iSmeeth answering those pesky mean spirited journos asking about the nasty tag "chokers"
he says in a very affable manner
"no, we are not chokers, the team is in fantastic form, we are playing great Kirkit, looking forward to win this WC"

now he has given muhtod answer i consider this mater settled, so should ye all dhoti / mundu shivering BRFities
looking forward to the Saturday match.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Mar 2011 09:01

CRamS wrote:Whats it about these pitches, one day its batting strip, and a few days later, the same strip favors bowlers.

CRS, I thought they were two different pitches though side by side.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 08 Mar 2011 09:09

Guys:

Another measure of the contempt and arrogance that goras, even thrid world Irish display towards India

reports were doing the rounds on Monday that O'Brien had broken the glass door of the dressing room by throwing his helmet after his run-out in the match against India on Sunday. The Karnataka State Cricket Association has issued a letter expressing its displeasure and demanded Rs 20,000 as damages, it is learnt.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Mar 2011 09:49

^^^
We should show bania mentality here. Charge them 5x for the damages, ie Rs. 100,000/- in this case. Throw in the trauma caused to KSCA staff if you want to. Pakiness like these will never go away so let us make some money out of it while we are at it.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 08 Mar 2011 10:46

Na. Cost of window/glass = $50. Labour $500

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Mar 2011 11:13

SSridhar wrote:
CRamS wrote:Whats it about these pitches, one day its batting strip, and a few days later, the same strip favors bowlers.
CRS, I thought they were two different pitches though side by side.

Same pitch as India- Eng game only thing was that a Former Spinner (Karnataka or Indian not sure) with influence in KSCA was sick of High scores and forced the curator not to water the Pitch from Friday for Sunday's game, this plus sunshine ensured the Pitch for India-Ireland game was unusally dry.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 08 Mar 2011 13:32

The Nagpur-kars dont learn from their Bangalore counterparts... Naively they went expecting tickets for the SA game, got the same treatment as the Bangalore ones did. Lathi charge etc.

Jai Ho!

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 08 Mar 2011 13:39

and Once agin, why doesn't the mango Abdul give these Indian matches a miss for a change.
Stop being such suckers for BCCI and local kirket associations. Let them play in empty stadiums where only corporate boxes are occupied.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 08 Mar 2011 13:49

Aditya_V wrote: Former Spinner (Karnataka or Indian not sure) with influence in KSCA was sick of High scores and forced the curator not to water the Pitch from Friday for Sunday's game, this plus sunshine ensured the Pitch for India-Ireland game was unusally dry.

Whats your gripe with Anil Kumble? Just curious but has he displayed any anti-Indian tendencies?

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 08 Mar 2011 14:08

^ How is that a gripe?

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 08 Mar 2011 14:12

Are you saying that TI can not perform against even Ireland if It is a turning track. Come'on, facing Irish bowlers on any track is easier than net practice.
I think we are rating TI too low especially when one Mr. Tendulkar and Sehwag and desi sobers are in the line up.
Why cook up CT's against decorated Indian players now.

negi · Post by **negi** » 08 Mar 2011 14:30

Chucktar got Mccullum in the first over itself .

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 08 Mar 2011 14:41

Tanaji wrote:^ How is that a gripe?

Did you read the same post I did? He was questioning whether Kumble is Indian or "Karnataka" (which by the way is the name of an Indian state, whose residents are not "Karnataka", but Kannadigas if they speak Kannada or simply residents of Karnataka

).

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 08 Mar 2011 14:42

NZ is playinh quite well against the terrorists after initial set back.

James B · Post by **James B** » 08 Mar 2011 14:51

CRamS wrote:
Aditya_V wrote: Former Spinner (Karnataka or Indian not sure) with influence in KSCA was sick of High scores and forced the curator not to water the Pitch from Friday for Sunday's game, this plus sunshine ensured the Pitch for India-Ireland game was unusally dry.

Whats your gripe with Anil Kumble? Just curious but has he displayed any anti-Indian tendencies?

CRamS, I think you misread what Aditya wrote. He meant a former spinner who is Kannadiga or an Indian (not sure which one of them) with influence in KSCA. He never questioned the Indianness of Kumble.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 08 Mar 2011 15:00

Dont the pakis have a better keeper? Akmal sucks. just let one go between him and first slip!

and he drops a dolly !

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Mar 2011 15:07

CRamS wrote:
Tanaji wrote:^ How is that a gripe?
Did you read the same post I did? He was questioning whether Kumble is Indian or "Karnataka" (which by the way is the name of an Indian state, whose residents are not "Karnataka", but Kannadigas if they speak Kannada or simply residents of Karnataka ).

Boss, you are spinning my post way out of line, When I stated Karantaka or Indian meant, "Spinner who played for Karnataka in Ranji trophy but did not play for India" , or India meant "Played for Indian Test team". it has nothing to do with him being a Kannadiga or not.

Yes I went by the TOI report, Marten's post has cleared the issue up.