Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2011

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 08 Mar 2011 10:53

Eat your heart out SDREs!! Pakistan navy has acquired a Delhi class destroyer and is conducting an exercise 400% better than Malabar 2010.

Here is Full page color ad in Nation newspaper. See it and shiver in your dhotis.
http://nation.com.pk/E-Paper/Lahore/2011-03-08/page-11

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 08 Mar 2011 10:54

shravan wrote:At least 5 dead, dozens injured after blast near Intelligence agency's office in Faisalabad, Pakistan.

IED Mubarak Pakistani bhaiyon aur bahench**iyon!

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Mar 2011 11:06

Anujan wrote:Eat your heart out SDREs!! Pakistan navy has acquired a Delhi class destroyer and is conducting an exercise 400% better than Malabar 2010.

Here is Full page color ad in Nation newspaper. See it and shiver in your dhotis.
http://nation.com.pk/E-Paper/Lahore/2011-03-08/page-11

What is wrong in this? Pakistan navy is just using South Asian navy ships in its poster.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 08 Mar 2011 11:23

10 Dead in Faisalabad Blast Over 50 Injured

Ejaz reports that the area where the CNG station is situated is a very sensitive location as the station is surrounded by ISI and military offices.

A building appears to have completely collapsed due to the explosion and cars have been damaged. The nature of the explosion has not yet been ascertained.
A PIA building nearby has been severely damaged in the blast.

sum · Post by **sum** » 08 Mar 2011 11:24

^^ Amir-khan retribution or just the TTP faith-fool being more pious?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 08 Mar 2011 12:26

http://tribune.com.pk/story/129137/worl ... up-to-569/

The University of Karachi (KU) now ranks at 569 among the ‘Top Universities of the World’, said the university spokesperson on Monday. KU vice-chancellor Prof Dr Pirzada Qasim Raza Siddiqui congratulated both the teachers and the students who, he said, have played a vital role in achieving this goal. Dr Siddiqui has sent a letter of appreciation to all scholars in the university. KU was previously ranked at 600.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Mar 2011 13:04

shravan wrote:10 Dead in Faisalabad Blast Over 50 Injured

Toll goes up to 'at least 20'

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 08 Mar 2011 13:13

^^^ Same source:

Some 4,000 people have been killed in bomb blasts, suicide and gun attacks blamed on Taliban and al Qaeda fighters since July 2007.

Thats about 3 pakroach per day. Should have been 8-10 although.

Pakis getting a taste of their own medicine is certainly worth rejoicing.

Insha'lla Things are bound to improve, given that the run rate has been higher recently since 2009.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 08 Mar 2011 13:57

Raymond Davis Saga! Ali Chisti`s article.

In Oman, where both nations' military chiefs met last week, the Pakistanis asked for drone technology and the list of all CIA staffers in Pakistan in return for seeing to the release of Davis, which shows the widening trust deficit between the two "allies."

Drone technology!

Last time it was stinger missiles? to destroy Indian air superiority!

The underlying fact is that Pakistan and the United States have interests in the region that collide. Pakistan, in many ways a proxy of China, is concerned with India more than anything else, while the U.S. is increasingly stepping up against China (the biggest investors in Pakistan's defense industry) by opting to support India.

Dear Chisti, Chinese arent as stupid as Pakistanis.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 08 Mar 2011 14:16

sum wrote:^^ Amir-khan retribution or just the TTP faith-fool being more pious?

Probably both my friend. AmirKhan for obvious reasons and TTP because the Pakisatans just cut one of their sources of funding - remember Rahman Dawood pulled out a bundle of cash from the ATM before encountering the ISI dunderheads...

chiragAS · Post by **chiragAS** » 08 Mar 2011 14:19

shiv wrote:
shravan wrote:At least 5 dead, dozens injured after blast near Intelligence agency's office in Faisalabad, Pakistan.
IED Mubarak Pakistani bhaiyon aur bahench**iyon!

saar are there any updates to Failed state ebook. the last was written in 2007.
i mean any 2011 copies available?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Mar 2011 14:19

Official: Car bomb kills 20 in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD (AP) — A car bomb outside a gas station in Pakistan's third largest city killed 20 and wounded more than 100 people on Tuesday, underscoring the reach of al-Qaeda and Taliban militants in the U.S.-allied nation.

The blast badly damaged the station and an office of Pakistan's state-run airline in eastern Faisalabad city, though the initial target was not immediately clear. The district in the important industrial city is home to commercial, police and government buildings.

Islamist militants seeking to overthrow the government have bombed hundreds of police, army, commercial and civilian targets in Pakistan over the past three years. Most have been in the northwest close to the Afghan border where the insurgents are at their strongest.

Tuesday's bombing apparently caused secondary explosions at the fuel station, adding to the destruction, Faisalabad police chief Aftab Cheema said.

TV footage showed piles of bricks, and chunks of twisted metal from cars strewn across the neighborhood. Rescue workers struggled to pull victims out of the rubble.

Cheema said 20 people were killed and more than 100 were wounded. "This was a terrorist activity," he said.

Faisalabad, 160 miles (260 kilometers) south of Islamabad, is home to Pakistan's textile industry. Militants have rarely struck there, but it lies in Punjab province, where Islamist extremist groups have deep roots and are believed to be growing in strength.

The U.S. has pushed Pakistan to crack down on Islamist extremist groups in its borders, saying they threaten not only Western troops engaged in the Afghan war effort but also the stability of Pakistan itself. The army has launched offensives in the northwest, but questions remain over whether the state has fully severed ties with extremist networks it once supported for foreign policy goals.

chiragAS · Post by **chiragAS** » 08 Mar 2011 14:29

Anujan wrote:Eat your heart out SDREs!! Pakistan navy has acquired a Delhi class destroyer and is conducting an exercise 400% better than Malabar 2010.

Here is Full page color ad in Nation newspaper. See it and shiver in your dhotis.
http://nation.com.pk/E-Paper/Lahore/2011-03-08/page-11

Seems Lanka also participating.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 08 Mar 2011 15:26

A. H Amin`s Article on History of Pakistan seen through its Army!
Poor guy is honest even after being in Army for a long time.

Excerpts

The Hindus were better organised politically since the Indian National Congress was dominated by a strong Hindu professional and business class while the Muslims were condemned to be politically more backward since because of peculiar historical reasons Mr Jinnah had no choice but to accept the Muslim feudals who dominated Muslim politics ! Mr Jinnah was forced to ally with the Unionists in Punjab and the Sindhi landlords in future against the advice of Punjabi Muslim urban leaders like Dr Iqbal because it was a strategic compulsion.Thus from August 1947 India inherited a strong political culture while The Muslim League was destroyed by the feudals who had joined it out of fear of land reforms and because of being in debt to Hindu money lenders just a few years after Mr Jinnah's death ! Here again economics played a major role ! It has been estimated that in pre 1947 Punjab and Sindh money lending was the most important occupation after agriculture and that while the net revenue of Irrigation Department of Punjab was 267 Lakh Rupees that of money lenders was 500 Lakh Rupees ! In 1911 out of a total of 803,560 money lenders in India some 25 % or 193,890 lived in Punjab alone ! Thus while the total population of pre 1947 Punjab was one eleventh of India ,it had some one fourth of India's money lenders ! All this ensured that the feudal elements jumped in the Muslim League band wagon not out of genuine motivation but because of economic compulsion !

Reference to Punjab and Sindh land alienation act. Much of the land was mortgaged to Hindu moneylenders, so them leaving was good economically, and property too!
Can anyone tell me what those peculiar historical reasons were?

Defaulters who cannot enter Dubai are heading banks in Pakistan !

who is it? i donot know?

Zia of 1960s is remembered by Gul Hassan as a meek obsequeous soldier , a man unfit to be an officer of the Pakistan Army in words of his immediate senior Major General Nawazish !

A political agent whose pre partition training was to intrigue and lie and make the frontier tribes fight so that British rule was prolonged was this country's president within eight years of independence !

that is iskander mirza.

A soldier who was guilty of tactical timidity in Burma was this country's first Muslim Army chief within four years of independence !

that should YAHYA! how Mrs.Gandhi mothered him!

Ayub destroyed the Constitution of 1956 , a direct consequence of which was the separation of East Pakistan within fifteen years ! General Zia destroyed the Second Constitution of Pakistan simply because he feared a prime minister who could threaten his personal authority !

this guy is coming on true strong!

All military rulers acted out of self preservation ! They had no ideology ! Less Yahya all started from the lower middle class or middle class and ended as business tycoons ! They destroyed constitutions , promiscuously destroyed the political system by introducing test tube babies in politics who they later condemned as corrupt and defective ! They destroyed Pakistan's constitution transforming the office of prime minister from that of a potent statesman and respectable political chief executive to that of a glorified eunuch !

i like that "groper gilli a glorified eunuch"

We are condemned to long term insecurity simply because some individuals are not secure with a strong and stable political system for this country ! This is our tragedy from which we can only be rescued albeit ironically by unforeseen air crashes or war !

my dear man, dont be wajibul-qatl, with such open talk.

http://pakistan-observer.blogspot.com/2 ... ed-up.html

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 08 Mar 2011 15:51

32 now....wondering how come 32 are in a gas station! That too in TSp where gas or fuel is always in short supply and poor pures could not even kill a minister for want of fuel..

IED Mubarak....

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Mar 2011 16:02

menon s wrote:
A soldier who was guilty of tactical timidity in Burma was this country's first Muslim Army chief within four years of independence !
that should YAHYA!

That is Ayub Khan, not Yahya. Ayub Khan was relieved of his command in Burma and sent packing home because of cowardice. It is ironical that he gave himself the title of FM later on. It is also ironical that this coward's son, another corrupt officer of the Pakistani Army Gohar Ayub Khan, accused FM Mankshaw, who got wounded near fatally in the same Burma front and got a Military Cross for his valour, of unpatriotic deeds !

Added later: Yahya saw war in Italy where he was imprisoned and later escaped, IIRC.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 08 Mar 2011 16:16

Lest we forget the singles when there are fireworks in boundaries...

http://www.dailytimes.com.puke/default. ... 2011_pg1_4

Found a new way of marking URL...without affecting hit counters and google ranks...change the word that comes after the .com to the appropriate one..

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 08 Mar 2011 16:59

32 is a healthy number...

And we musn't miss the singles, by any means. Sometimes, steady singles is what kills the opponent's innings.

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 08 Mar 2011 18:09

Meat eating, world's phasstest and bhest bowling lineup smacked to 114 runs in last 6 overs by NZ kufrs..

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 08 Mar 2011 18:26

Akshut wrote:Meat eating, world's phasstest and bhest bowling lineup smacked to 114 runs in last 6 overs by NZ kufrs..

My Goodness! I have never seen such brutality against Pakistani bowlers. Its more sweet to hear than the IED's going off near ISI head quarters.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 08 Mar 2011 18:32

Ambassador Marc Grossman sat down for a metting with Paki newspaper editors yesterday (am guessing that Nawa-e-waqt was excluded from the meeting, as usual).

I'm sorry but I don't have an answer: Grossman
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=12248

In the meeting, Amb. Grossman said:

"US-Pakistan relationship must be based on mutual interest, challenge is to find that mutual interest".

which led this Paki editor to wet his shalwar:

The paucity of time did not allow for asking the ambassador that clearly someone must have moved the goal posts in the recent weeks otherwise everyone had been led to believe that the two governments had agreed on mutual-interests a long time back. Ten years down the road, fighting a full-scale war against a commonly identified enemy, billions being poured in by US and still we face the challenge of discovering our mutual interests? Interesting reality check, indeed.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 08 Mar 2011 19:18

Bunnies take responsibility

Which of course means they will still blame the yyy combo..

Interesting the ISI building was not harmed, so is it to provide some begging brownie points during the next begging session with Unkil?

Why should wild animals kill wild animals, they usually go for mild animals...or humans.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 08 Mar 2011 19:20

OMG they have a column with this name...or is it a typo?

http://www.dailytimes.com.puke/default. ... 2011_pg3_2

ANALUSIS: Tiff, tussle, or fight? —Anwar Syed

arun · Post by **arun** » 08 Mar 2011 19:55

The National Bird of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan drops in for dinner:

5 killed in U.S. drone strike in Pakistan

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 08 Mar 2011 20:01

Guys, I wanted to put this comment on the Grossman story linked above in News. Somehow I'm unable to do so... If anyone can, feel free:

______________________________________________

To me, it looks like a "clarification" visit. In other words, Grossman clearly laid out what the issues will be. The military in Rawalpindi has a decision to make - to let Raymond Davis go, or to keep him in prison. There is no in-between way. The choice they make will determine whether Pakistan gets the hard end of the stick sooner, or later. It's not more complicated than that.

The US has not been caught with its pants down. What the Pakistani public seems not to have noticed is that the US has always had its pants down in this country - despite the fact that (a) several of its military bases are overrun by US military and special forces people, (b) its airports and ports monitored real time from Florida, (c) Americans are living and moving around in the major cities, carrying arms; (d) senior American military officials and bureaucrats regularly visit to demand and expect further killings by the Pakistani military of Pakistani citizens; and (e) the flight of drones from within Pakistan, controlled by Americans, to kill Pakistani citizens.

If anyone has been caught with its pants down in this situation, it is the Pakistani military - which has allowed all of the above, but has lied to the people it is supposed to protect, while allowing a foreign power to kill them.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 08 Mar 2011 20:37

What I find curious about the RD affair is that he was ostensibly part of a group of SF types hunting LeT (along with the Haqqanis) in Pakistan. I wonder if it might be a trilateral arrangement (US-India-Zardari GoP) where as a quid pro quo for 'composite talks' and for preempting the need for an Indian response for any future attack in India.

IOW, is the PMO buying into an arrangement (talks, back-burnering 26/11) because the US has promised them (with GoP collusion) that it will hit Let in Pakistan covertly? RD happened because certain elements in the PA/ISI gfound out the true mission and decided to counter the RDs...

Nah! too 'Chankiyan'

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Mar 2011 20:37

Suppiah wrote:32 now....wondering how come 32 are in a gas station! That too in TSp where gas or fuel is always in short supply and poor pures could not even kill a minister for want of fuel..

IED Mubarak....

Every Paki is a short term walking , talking gas station after taking a meal. Bad news for Powks though,
the newly arrived Consignment of Hoors from Shenzen assembly lines is missing one crucial body part .

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Mar 2011 20:46

Kidnapped Pakistan judges rescued by security forces

Security forces in Pakistan have rescued two judges who were kidnapped in the south-western province of Balochistan last month, officials say.

Jan Mohammad Gohar and Mohammad Ali Kakar were rescued after police got information as to their whereabouts from suspects already in custody.

Hundreds of local citizens, including doctors, lawyers and political activists have disappeared in the province. Their bodies are often later found in shallow graves.

Security agencies say they have been kidnapped and killed by insurgent groups. But human rights organisations are increasingly holding intelligence agencies and paramilitary forces responsible

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Mar 2011 20:49

Pakistan launches anti-polio campaign

All involved need to be Tassered. Tell Qadri to stop singing we have work to do.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Mar 2011 20:56

Benis material

Sindh assembly: MPAs suggest a female army chief be appointed

Since women are competent and sincere to their professions, the Government of Pakistan should set a precedent and appoint a woman as the Chief of Army Staff, Sindh’s lawmakers suggested on Monday.

During the Sindh Assembly session, MPAs unanimously passed a resolution to commemorate the 100th International Women’s Day being celebrated on March 8. The resolution was moved by Shazia Marri: “This assembly … pays tribute to the dynamic women of Pakistan who strive passionately for the betterment of the country and its future despite [...] impediments. The resolution appreciates the women-empowerment policies, programmes and legislations of the present democratic government and resolves to further the struggle to establish a just and equitable environment conducive for sustainable development.”

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Mar 2011 21:01

Cosmo_R, Its your frustration at GOI's lack of coherent action on L-e-T after 26/11 terrorist attack that makes you see things where they dont exist.
US activities in TSP against whoever are for their own interests and no free biryani. Recall DCH original task was to infiltrate the LeT. Most likely he sang in prison in exchange for plea bargain and Rahman Dawood was taking out those contacts.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 08 Mar 2011 21:16

Brad Goodman wrote:Benis material

Sindh assembly: MPAs suggest a female army chief be appointed

Easy way out will be for kiyani and pasha to undergo sex change.Everyone will get what they want.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Mar 2011 21:22

2 Chinese engineers killed in landslide in Pakistan

Two Chinese engineers were killed and another was injured in a landslide that occurred late Monday night at a zinc project in Pakistan's southern district of Lasbela, some 120 kilometers northwest of Karachi,

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Mar 2011 21:26

Pakistan In Negotiations For More F-16s

Pakistan is in negotiations with the U.S. to get more Lockheed Martin F-16s beyond those it has on order, while at the same time it is developing its defense manufacturing capability to reduce its reliance on the U.S.

Pakistan air force Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman disclosed this, though no firm numbers were given. Qamar spoke to Aviation Week in Melbourne, Australia, where he was attending an air chiefs’ conference.

What happened to JF 17 Bandar and J10 the plane for next century

Chengdu F-7s and Dassault Mirages will be phased out as we get JF-17s,” says Qamar. “Some of our Mirages are the oldest in the world,” dating back to 1967. Phasing these out is a top priority because they are difficult and costly to maintain; no one is producing spare parts for them anymore. “We are getting second-hand parts, but we don’t know” their provenance. “It’s a flight-safety issue and a nightmare for me,” he adds.

When asked about data links to tie F-16s to JF-17s, Qamar says Pakistan is working to develop its own solution. “We have Link 16 on the F-16s. We will not fiddle with Link 16 and not have direct linkages [between the JF-17s] with the F-16” He says an indigenous tactical data link is being worked on. It will send information from the JF-17 to a ground station where there will be an interface, he says, adding there will be a short delay, and then the information will be sent to the F-16s.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Mar 2011 21:43

All the more reason not to buy that for the MRCA!

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 08 Mar 2011 21:57

Obamas Pak fixation, and dollars down the drain.
Obama’s wars: The Inside Story, Bob Woodward, Simon & Schuster UK Ltd, Pp 441(HB), £20
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2011/ ... posed.html

The Inside Story, quotes Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence (DNI) in 2008 as saying "They’re living a lie." "In exchange for reimbursements of about $2 billion a year from the US, Pakistan’s powerful military and its spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), helped the US while giving clandestine aid, weapons and money to the Afghan Taliban. They had an "office of hedging your bets," McConnell said.

Woodward comments: "It was hard, perhaps impossible, for a Pakistani general to put his binoculars down, turn his head over his shoulder, and look west to Afghanistan." Speaking of General Kayani, he says though he graduated from the US Command and General Staff College, "his training, exercises, maps, intelligence focus and the bulk of Pakistani troops were directed towards India." So much for our peace efforts with Pakistan!

At a meeting with president Zardari in May 2009, Obama said, "We do not begrudge you being concerned about India. I know that many Pakistanis are. But we do not want to be part of arming you against India, so let me be very clear about that." Obama felt that the best way for a quick solution to the Afghan situation was a conflict-free Indo-Pak relation. It is this idea that he expressed in his address to joint session of Parliament. But friendship is never one-way, as he must have realised by now.

The book recounts an interesting conversation between Pakistani ambassador to the US Haqqani and National Security Advisor Gen J Jones. Haqqani tells Jones "We are a nation of rug merchants" and adds that they pitch for 10,000 so that the deal would settle for 1,200. "You guys have no idea of the proportionality, you know? ... So our side now, we’ve asked for the moon, but we’ll get something... we’ll get our helicopters, which the army needs to go into North Waziristan."

NO SIR U R A NATION OF PANHANDLERS! And look at the way he compares himself," a nation of rug merchants" eye opening boss.

"A man who is trying to woo a woman, " Haqqani said, was the best analogy. "We all know what he wants from her. Right?" The man wants one thing; "But she has other ideas. She wants to be taken to the theatre. She wants that nice new bottle of perfume. If you get down on one knee and give the ring, that’s the big prize. And boy, you know, it works". "The ring is, by the way, recognition of Pakistan’s nuclear programme as legitimate."

Hussain Haqqani r u a diplomat or a pimp on hira mandi, lahore! BTW understand the class of Pak diplomats! my....my my...r ur national interests comparable to a women u wanna make out with? is that ur idea of a foreign policy and national interest?

The foreign policy of India under Manmohan Singh is clearly being choreographed elsewhere, to suit the needs of the superpower.

thats a fact, and thats what we need to be careful about.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Mar 2011 21:59

so chini-reverse-takniki is not able to directly into-face with Link16...
and all that up and down linking will be lovely for locating 3 emitters and receivers...!

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 08 Mar 2011 22:06

The US has a number of forces on the ground, why cant they rescue RD themselves. Once the operation is done they can always goto town with stories of daring escape of RD, dont really understand the song and dance that unkil is participating in, for the sake of RD

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 Mar 2011 22:10

How did I end up here

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 08 Mar 2011 22:31

Brad Goodman wrote:2 Chinese engineers killed in landslide in Pakistan

Two Chinese engineers were killed and another was injured in a landslide that occurred late Monday night at a zinc project in Pakistan's southern district of Lasbela, some 120 kilometers northwest of Karachi,

So taller than mountains are now literally deeper than oceans?