Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2011

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Mar 2011 09:20

Baikul wrote:And I see a lot of cussing of the Pakjabi army in the most unusual places.

Absolutely. And I am hoping that it is spreading into the rank and file of the Pakistan army.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Mar 2011 09:21

RajeshG wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahir-ul-Qadri

The sher ends with the line

... gar mile dollar liptaa sharaab aur shabaab main, aise nashe main kaaba bhee karegaa raam-raam.

(rough translation : if u get dollars wrapped in booze and sex then even kaabaa will sing raam-raam).

Yes I heard the bit about Kaaba and Ram Ram - but was unable to decipher the rest of the verse. Thanks.

The line is Indic in the sense that the significance of the words "Ram Ram" needs to be known to the listener to even understand what is being said.

ManishH · Post by **ManishH** » 17 Mar 2011 09:33

While shiv's video link is satire on Pak army (even names Kayani), the undercurrent is "wake up mujahid", so shouldn't be used as part of any pro-indian message. Most probably a recruiting video for "punjabi taliban". Some excerpts :

On pak army ...
teen lakh bangali maar ke, hinduaa'n too'n jang harke
(after slaughtering 3lakh bengalis, and losing a war to hindus)
balochaa'n di dharti chori, pashtoonaa'n nal seena zori
(grabbing balochi land, browbeating pushtoons)
apnaa'n naal gaddhari, dushmanaa'n nal yari
(betrayed their own, befriended the foes)
beghairat jisde karnal ne, dalle jis de jarnal ne
(shameless are your colonels, weak are your generals)
...
laal maseedi te hero'n, kargil vich zero'n
(heroes of lal masjid, but zero in kargil
...
dron toon darde ne'n, dallar lai marde ne'n
(you run scared of drones, but pine for dollars)

On the mullah who gave fatwa in support of pak army action in FATA ...

gar mile dallar lipta hua sharab-o-shabab me'n
(if I get a $ soaked in wine and beauty)
aise nashe me'n kaaba bhi karega raam-raam.
(the intoxication will make holy kaaba praise lord raam)

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 17 Mar 2011 09:34

Raymond Davis is an employee of Blackwater Worldwide now known as Xe a private military security firm. Xe is personnel services contractor for the CIA. More than likely Xe payed the Diyat, only later to bill the CIA at some hourly rate for services provided. I would bet on the ISI & Pak army getting some kickback from Xe as well and many made off well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... stan-blood

ManishH · Post by **ManishH** » 17 Mar 2011 09:44

shiv wrote:What does the failure of occurrence of a terrorist attack mean (apart from the fact that the prediction was wrong)

A couple more possiblities ...
4) IB has neutralized all of ISI infrastructure
5) US pressure not to carry out the attacks while US is in the neighbourhood. An exemption stands for J&K and northeast.

Realistically speaking, 5) is what it is.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 17 Mar 2011 09:47

Amber G. wrote:^^^^ U.S. did not pay compensation in Raymond Davis case
.. Asked who paid the families, she replied: "You will have to ask the families."

Asked if the Pakistani government had paid compensation, the secretary of state said: "you will have to ask the Pakistani government."

Funny that no one has brought up the possibility that it was paid out of some Paki Jarnails pocket or Zardari's pocket. What if American officials privately threatened massive GUBO sessions for jarnails as well as nanha jarnails kids studying/screwing around at Harvard, if something happened to Mr. Davis. Jarnail figures he ought to ingratiate himself with Americans in case he needs to make a quick getaway some day in the near future and resettle in Boston. Therefore, easy solution is to pay off families from own pocket (likely a smaller amount) and make sure press can't find them. Meanwhile, spirit out Mr. Davis and then broadcast news next morning that families pardoned Mr. Davis for blood money (and claim X lakhs more was paid). Meanwhile, Ms. Clinton can truthfully say that the US paid no ransom money and Jarnail considers it an investment well spent for him and his family's futures.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Mar 2011 09:50

ManishH wrote:
shiv wrote:What does the failure of occurrence of a terrorist attack mean (apart from the fact that the prediction was wrong)
A couple more possiblities ...
4) IB has neutralized all of ISI infrastructure
5) US pressure not to carry out the attacks while US is in the neighbourhood. An exemption stands for J&K and northeast.

Realistically speaking, 5) is what it is.

I think you are more or less correct. It also speaks of the influence the US has in Pakistan - an influence that I thought might be fading when Raymon Davis was taken - but no. The US just clamped down firmly on the Pakistan army and the chooked their tattes and took them downhill.

This does not look to me like a US that is about to turn and run from Pakistan.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 17 Mar 2011 10:00

Hi all,
Interesting happenings in Pakistan especially the release of Rehman Dawood.

Meanwhile Najam Sethi discusses political assassinations in Pakistan. Liaqat ali khan, Zia etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqzgwpeUuD0

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 17 Mar 2011 11:14

Riots in Pak after double murder-accused Davis ‘buys’ freedom

Hope there are enough stocks of virgins for large tomorrow arrivals.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 17 Mar 2011 11:34

[MHO]
I trust Clinton. Sincerely I thought US will pay some kind of compensation but now after hearing her things started making sense. Its logical and tactically correct for US not to pay a dime for RD case.
If we look at this RD incident, in principle its not an one off type, although hyped by ISI paid paki media and then everyone jumped into the wagon. A lawyer can bring many other cases under the same "us personnel killing citizen". e.g. drone attackes, afghan civilian casualities, US indirectly responsible for pak army actions under its 'war against terror' and not to forget Iraq, etc etc. Moreover US gets its hands dirty all over the world. It is dangerous for them to set such compensation type of precedence, even secretly. Then the compensation news is paid by ISI to save H&D.
US has an extraordinary leverage on pak. They dont have to pay (anything extra) for such small incidents (compare to afghan/Iraq casualties) hyped by ISI and play in their hands. US squeezed paki ball so much that they had to cough up RD. Screw urself now ISI

Just my thoughts.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 Mar 2011 11:55

kmkraoind wrote:Riots in Pak after double murder-accused Davis ‘buys’ freedom

Hope there are enough stocks of virgins for large tomorrow arrivals.

Any Addition to the Wajib- Ul-Kattle list?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 17 Mar 2011 12:06

The immediate families of the two victims were paid compensation money and US Green Cards about two weeks ago, as per news reports of that time. The families had IIRC even been spirited out of Pakistan then.

So what happened in Lawhore yesterdin?

Did the US lawyers bring in signed and thumbprinted statements of the family members, kept the lawyers out, and got things signed by the judge?

To be able to do this, not only would the family members have to have been paid, but an entire chain starting from the fauji high ups to CM punjab to the Judge in question and a few officials (and not to mention the local police in Lawhore to ensure Diamond was kept alive and given due privilidges) must have been greased.

I suspect that the diyat money paid might be only a fraction on the amount diamond has cost his employers.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 17 Mar 2011 12:33

Guddu wrote:
Narad wrote:From the def and dumb forum

Listen to our women who love to watch Indian movies, listen to Indian songs, follow up on Indian ####. Listen to how they confuse the term "MODERN" with VULGARITY and OBSCENITY. Our women are Jaahils who are giving birth to a Jaahil nation. Those few that are born to educated and pious women...are considered outcasts of the Jaahil community.

Pakistan women are the roadblock that is stopping pakistan from its path to achieve total purity

Pakistan men should stop marrying such impure women and impose a total boycott on them

By stealing pious pakistani women like aafia siddiqui, America is also part of the conspiracy

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 17 Mar 2011 13:01

Davis released but David dead http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 011_pg7_31

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 17 Mar 2011 13:13

Drone kills 14 in North Waziristan http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=12749

Pakistanis in Bahrain come under attack http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/16/pakistan ... ttack.html

Faith factory http://blog.dawn.com/2011/03/16/faith-factory/

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 17 Mar 2011 13:15

Amber G. wrote:The calculation has been that Pak will win the next krikit game from Austraila and pakis will forget everything...

Now what if Australia does not oblige..and Pakis do not win?

Damn, Amber what choice is that? Between the White Pakis and the Pakis (Blown* = or will they be offended?

), I'd have to go for the White Pakis...

*Blown = Brown in Chinese.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 17 Mar 2011 13:22

Aditya_V wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Riots in Pak after double murder-accused Davis ‘buys’ freedom

Hope there are enough stocks of virgins for large tomorrow arrivals.
Any Addition to the Wajib- Ul-Kattle list?

2 more join the list
Yousuf Ojla- released davis of murder charges, if he was a true pakistani he would gala ghoot diya hota of davis
Aniq Anwar- released davis with only a small fine for possesing unlicensed gun, if he was a true pakistani he would taken davis's gun and goli maardi hoti usko

Now that they have proved to be impure purelanders, they need to be kataled

Judge who heard Davis case goes on leave http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=12750

LAHORE: Additional district and sessions judge (ASJ) Yousuf Ojla, who conducted hearing of US national Raymond Davis in a double murder case, has gone on leave, Geo News reported on Thursday.

Judge Yousuf Ojla did not come to the court, the sources said. They added that the judge has gone on leave due to personal engagements.

Earlier, Judicial Magistrate Aniq Anwar met additional district and sessions judge. Aniq had conducted hearing of Raymond in illegal weapon case.

The additional district and sessions judge (ASJ) had acquitted Raymond Davis in a double murder case on Wednesday and ordered his immediate release after the legal heirs of the two victims accepted blood money under the Qisas and Diyat law and pardoned the killer.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 13:25

By leading the 'negotiations' from the front, this time the army cannot blame the civilians for the Davis fiasco...the mangos will see them as part of the problem..

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 17 Mar 2011 13:33

Raghavendra wrote: Judge who heard Davis case goes on leave http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=12750

Predicting the news for the next 10 days.
#day 1-2 Judge and his family, Public prosecutor and his family and jailer and his family, etc disappeared.
# day 7-10, all are safe and applied for asylum in KSA or some other gulf countries (probably received $$$, because of ummah brotherenship, they are also eligible for blood money).

All these are Worth-A-Cutlet for pious abduls. Any decision taken by them was with counter guarantees from unkil. Remember, the defense was lawyer was not in court while ruling came out (to preserve the secrecy).

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Mar 2011 13:35

9/11 redux: made in Muridke —Dr Mohammad Taqi

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2011_pg3_2

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 13:40

Nutty nation headline - 22 culled by droneacharya...in North Wazaristan...look like unkil is pulling all stops after safely carting Davis out of animaland...that would make the purest of mangos totally happy with their birathers in ISI...

Text book definition of locking stable after horse bolted...petition filed against Davis release

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... led-in-LHC

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 13:51

Look at this....I think some abduls' educated wife has asked him to carry this placard not telling him what it means...so she can get diyat and run off to US

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 17 Mar 2011 14:05

Meanwhile, Pakisatans are having fun in Bahrain - see the West Asia thread.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 14:23

In the DT article on muridke quoted above, who is he referring to as hired pens of establishment - the hint of Yawn is there in the first para but not sure which particular article/opinion piece he is tearing into...but this guy talks sense and could be dangerous..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Mar 2011 14:54

foxnews excerpt:

US missiles kill 25 militants in NW Pakistan

Published March 17, 2011

| Associated Press

MIR ALI, Pakistan – Suspected U.S. unmanned aircraft fired two pairs of missiles in quick succession Thursday at a compound in northwestern Pakistan where a group of some three dozen alleged militants were meeting, killing at least 25 people, Pakistani intelligence officials said.

The strikes occurred three minutes apart and took place in the Datta Khel area of the North Waziristan tribal region — the main sanctuary for al-Qaida and Taliban fighters along the Afghan border, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.

Read more: http://foxnews.com/world/2011/03/17/mis ... z1GqiMPZGY

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 17 Mar 2011 15:06

^^^
RD is saying thank you. Nothing unusual.

Meanwhile...

Bomb blasts kills four in Balochistan

and

At least 13 killed in Karachi

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 15:08

Why is Unkil wasting money on drone and missile? A new way of cattling has opened up - the Sharia way. All Unkil has to do is announce 'diyat' in advance -> relatives of the person named will happily do a qadri to collect it. May turn out much cheaper if you go by the going rate in Lahore ($1m) and countryside is bound to be cheaper....

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 17 Mar 2011 16:10

Let us hope that tomorrow religious sentiment will be very high.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 17 Mar 2011 16:13

16:02 PM Pak govt paid Raymond Davis blood money:

More details emerge in the Raymond Davis case.

It now appears that the compensation money paid to the heirs of two slain Pakistani nationals, Faizan and Faheem, who were shot dead in Lahore, by CIA contractor Raymond Davis on January 27, was paid from the government's funds.

According to the agreed-upon formula, the blood-money of Rs 200 million was paid from the government fund for the sake of national self-respect and no money was taken from the United States, reports The News.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 16:15

JE Menon wrote:Let us hope that tomorrow religious sentiment will be very high.

If you go by defndumb where every barbaric animal mentions religion in every post, Pakistan's future is bright..

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 17 Mar 2011 16:36

So has it been accepted that RD didn't had diplomatic immunity. If Mrs. Clinton says that he was forgiven by the victim's family and hence released,
that means it was natural process of Paki Law which was applied and he was not freed on the basis of diplomatic immunity.
That being case, in future We are going to hear lot many people jumping in front of cars carrying Americans/Whites in Pakistan in the hope of making money. Some people will jump voluntarily and some will be made to jump for GC and few $$$'s.

This is another dangerous game that America has started in Pakistan and Pakis are going to use it with usual testicle brilliance (Pun intended).

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 17 Mar 2011 16:41

Suppiah wrote:Why is Unkil wasting money on drone and missile? A new way of cattling has opened up - the Sharia way. All Unkil has to do is announce 'diyat' in advance -> relatives of the person named will happily do a qadri to collect it. May turn out much cheaper if you go by the going rate in Lahore ($1m) and countryside is bound to be cheaper....

+1 America should pay some pakistan mullah to declare osama and mullah omar as blasphemers

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Mar 2011 16:44

The good news for Davis is now if the US charges him for manslaughter in domestic courts to keep local Abduls happy, he can claim double jeopardy since he has already been tried, indicted and sentenced (but commuted as per Sharia) in another country for same crime.

Which means the offer of 'investigation' by US embassy once he gets back home is bakwaas..

James B · Post by **James B** » 17 Mar 2011 16:55

Najam Sethi talks all about 'behind the scenes' of Raymond Davis' release

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 Mar 2011 17:31

krishnan wrote:
According to the agreed-upon formula, the blood-money of Rs 200 million was paid from the government fund for the sake of national self-respect and no money was taken from the United States, reports The News.

This is clearly an attempt to bring down the Zardari government.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 17 Mar 2011 17:44

Drone strike kills 38 in Datta Khel

At least 38 suspected militants have been killed in 12 US drone strikes in different areas of North Waziristan Agency on Thursday. So far 80 people have been killed in March alone in drone strikes in North Waziristan

sum · Post by **sum** » 17 Mar 2011 18:08

I would bet on the ISI & Pak army getting some kickback from Xe as well and many made off well.

Kickbacks is Ok but will the Amir-khan also deliver some kicks ( like the French did after the Marriot/DCNS targeted bombing) ?

Am expecting atleast a few IED mubaraks with love from Amirkhan for all the mental agony caused...

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 17 Mar 2011 18:25

Dronacharya kush hua

(would that be correct in Hindi?) ...

Uttam · Post by **Uttam** » 17 Mar 2011 18:32

JE Menon wrote:Dronacharya kush hua (would that be correct in Hindi?) ...

Dronacharya ne kush ker diya (Dronacharya made me happy!)

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Mar 2011 18:37

JE Menon wrote:Dronacharya kush hua (would that be correct in Hindi?) ...

It's good enough JEM. "huye"(plural - Drona-avargal in Tamil) instead of "hua" would be the respectful form referring to a figure such as Drona. Hindi grammar chauvinists have long been put on the back foot by Bollywood and assorted peepals in India. Either you have a link language or you have grammatically and phonetically correct Hindi where everyone knows the gender of a chair or car. and knows his bha from his ba.