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Muppalla wrote:
Important to note - That Ganapathy tells to the world that he is from Karimnagar to just fool that he is T. But he is not. Most of the Naxal leaders (top brass) are from Kosta though they fight for T but fool the T population.
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Iam aware of this fact that he hails from costal region. Also famous kondaplli seetaramaiah was from a village near by Gudivada Krishna dt.

both these persons told common people that they were from T region.
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I wonder what is the birth place of Vijaya Shanthi the 2nd MP of TRS. Earlier TRS itself made lot of allegations against her saying that she is not from Telangana. Can anu guruji give some Gyan on her?
We know that KSR's family is from Bobhili. All naxal leaders are form costal A.P.

So costal fellows cheating Telangana people is in a way ture. TRS and naxals leaders are from Costal AP :rotfl:
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L Ram wrote:
Muppalla wrote:
Important to note - That Ganapathy tells to the world that he is from Karimnagar to just fool that he is T. But he is not. Most of the Naxal leaders (top brass) are from Kosta though they fight for T but fool the T population.
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Iam aware of this fact that he hails from costal region. Also famous kondaplli seetaramaiah was from a village near by Gudivada Krishna dt.

both these persons told common people that they were from T region.
Ganapathi (Muppala Laxman Rao) is a padmanyaka velama, same as KCR. He is from Karimnagar, as far as I know.

The fact is that the Padmanayaka Velama population in Telangana outnumbers that in SA.

Velamas were an important part of Rani Rudrama Devi's army. They always had a presence in Telengana. They were also the feudal land owning class that dominated both in Telengana and Andhra during the Nizam/British rule.

The Velamas in Andhra were much more benign, a reflection of the nature of British rule. The Velamas ("Doras") in Telengana were much more brutal. Ironically, a Velama is now the head of Naxals - the force that targeted the Velamas of Telengana in the blood bath of sixties and seventies. Other Velamas with naxal/leftish sympathies also abound. Anyone heard of Narsing Rao? The artist and filmmaker ("Dasi" was a recent one - about 7 years ago).
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Interesting. I tracked the village Muppalla (some times written as Muppala) at three locations and all of them are in Guntur/Krishna districts. I am not sure if the same name village was existant in T region prion to Islamic invasions. They changed several names after abduls. Anyway let us take this to AP History thread on GD.
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Velama surnames do not come from their native village, as far as I know.

Velemas trace their lineage back to the Gupta empire and prior. Apparently, the clan picked the wrong side in the Nandas vs. Chandragupta/Chanakya and lost.

The family legends have it that they migrated down south and became mercenaries. The clan were kshatriyas, but lost the Upanayana tradition in the chaos (another legends has it that the Brahmins refused to perform upanaynam for this clan).

That is how they came to spread all over and became nayakas in the Kakatiya regime. Other cheftians such as Brahma Naidu (in Palanadu) were also padmanaya velamas. The one fight/war that all velamas are inordinately proud of, is the one at Bobbili. Here the velamas had the French (under Bussey), Nizam and Maharaja of Vizianagaram (ancestors of Ashok Gajapathi/Anand Gajapathy Raju), ranged against them. A vast majority of the Bobbili clan were wiped out in that battle.

After this battle, the velamas dispersed all over once again. Perhaps, KCR being from Bobbili comes from this bit of history. He may have, but not all Telengana velamas came from Bobbili. They were here, at least from the Kakatiya times.

Any way, this is way off-topic.
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not offtopic at all. very interesting stuff. we need to research more into the local elite who ruled telangana during Nizam times. we need to figure out which parts of the population were the most beholden to Nizams and carried out their orders to the fullesst regardless of the consequences.
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Devesh garu smelling blood :twisted:

The last time one of my forefather happened to be a king was Viswamitra. So I am safe :mrgreen:
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No way Sir, You are an Aryan Invedor and a settler in this country looting all native people. We need to send you to your native place once we are in power.
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devesh wrote:not offtopic at all. very interesting stuff. we need to research more into the local elite who ruled telangana during Nizam times. we need to figure out which parts of the population were the most beholden to Nizams and carried out their orders to the fullesst regardless of the consequences.
these so called dora's like KCR were the people responsible for looting the poor people during Nizam times.
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In the MLC elections TRS with 10 MLAs and 2 BJP MLAs got 11 votes. TRS put up candidates asking MLA's vote for their candidate in the name of Telangana. Yet their own 10 MLA's and 2 BJP people have not voted to them. BJP is shouting from roof tops that their 2 MLA's voted for TRS. If that true at least on TRS MLA have not voted for their own party. So much for their commitment for Telangana
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Pioneer op_Ed:

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March 18, 2011 1:10:25 AM

Kalyani Shankar

Jaganmohan Reddy is waiting to create political space for himself in Andhra Pradesh with the Congress losing its grip. If President's Rule is imposed, his calculations could go awry

Jaganmohan Reddy is not the first in Andhra Pradesh to float his own outfit. There have been many others who have done it before. While some like NT Rama Rao succeeded in capturing people’s imagination and subsequently power in the State, others failed. There are others like Telangana Rashtra Samiti chief K Chandrasekhara Rao and Praja Rajyam chief Chiranjeevi who have partially succeeded. While Mr Chandrasekhara Rao became a Union Minister as a coalition partner of the UPA alliance, Mr Chiranjeevi’s party has won 16 Assembly seats.

Now that Mr Jaganmohan Reddy has taken a plunge, the question is what is going to be his fate. Without doubt, he is a young man in a hurry. He is so much like his father YS Rajasekhara Reddy who has been a rebel all his life. However, YS Rajasekhara Reddy did not alienate the Congress central leadership. He only needled other Congress Chief Ministers until he became one. But Mr Jaganmohan Reddy dared to take on Congress president Sonia Gandhi by staking his claim for the Chief Minister’s office after his father’s tragic death.

Since the Congress has roped in the Mr Chiranjeevi’s PRP to counter Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s threat, a comparison between the two becomes obvious. If film actor-turned-politician Chiranjeevi is a natural crowd puller, Mr Jaganmohan Reddy has been spending money to gather crowds. And it is not sure how long he can sustain it. On his part, Mr Chiranjeevi could not project himself as an alternative force and failed to emerge as a kingmaker. Though Mr Jaganmohan Reddy has the support of several Congress MLAs his strength is still untested.

Further, Mr Chjiranjeevi has not built up his party’s organisation at grassroots level. But Mr Jaganmohan Reddy is trying to build a strong organisation by mobilising workers in districts. Most importantly, there was no political vacuum when Mr Chiranjeevi launched his outfit as the Congress and the Telugu Desam were strong contenders. But Mr Jaganmohan Reddy is making efforts to snatch some political space from the Congress when it has lost the goodwill gained by YS Rajasekhara Reddy and is plaguing by the TRS’s demand for a separate Telangana State.

Definitely, there is a political vacuum in Andhra Pradesh that needs to be filled up. However, there are doubts whether Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s YSR Congress will succeed in filling up the space. Apart from the name of the party and the tri-colour flag with YSR’s picture in the middle, nothing more is known. Will he be able to attract YSR loyalists in the State to boost his party’s image is the question that is being asked.

Mr Jaganmohan Reddy in his campaigns has been talking of YSR’s nine pet schemes like housing, pavala vaddi, old age pensions, rice at Rs 2 a kg, health insurance, Jalayagnam, free power, education and land distribution. However, he cannot take credit for all these programmes just because his father had implemented them as then Congress Chief Minister. After all, these are welfare programmes of the Congress. In order to sustain and attract voters, he must come up with some innovative schemes instead of repeating his father’s promises and has to build a good team.

The Assembly election in the State is scheduled in 2014, two-and-a-half years away. The million-dollar question is whether he will be able to build his party before that. If the Telangana agitation becomes more violent, President’s Rule may be imposed in the State. In such an event, Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s calculations may go awry.

Although the Congress has mishandled the Telangana crisis, there is still time to rectify the mistakes if there is a President’s Rule. It has to find a charismatic leader to counter to Mr Jaganmohan Reddy when passions cool down. This is where Mr Chiranjeevi, who has joined the Congress recently, can play a role. There is talk of projecting him as the chief ministerial candidate in the next Assembly election. :roll: It is not as if the Congress in State does not have strong leaders but so far, the two candidates — Mr K Rosaiah and Mr Kiran Reddy — have failed to handle the volatile situation.

Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s future also depends on the decision of the Congress about creating a separate Telangana State. So far the Congress has promised more and delivered little. If the Union Government yields to the pressure and goes for a separate Telangana, Mr Jaganmohan Reddy can capitalise it in the Seema-Andhra region and may be successful in getting a fair share of votes.

Moreover, the Congress has been unable to control the two dozen Congress MLAs who showed up at Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s meetings. It cannot blame Mr Jaganmohan Reddy for his dynastic politics as it will reflect on the Gandhi family.

Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s soft spot is his vulnerability as a businessman. His wealth increased enormously during the regime of his father. From a small time realtor, he has become an industrialist with interests in power, mining, cement and media. His declared income had grown from Rs 8.19 lakh in 2003 to Rs 77 crore in 2009. The Income tax cases have already been slapped on him. So he is sitting in a glass house.
So the project is still to neutralize YJM. T etc are tools for that.
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and they know that if T is agreed then Jagan will sweep rest of AP and for a generation INC has to forget those areas. T area also may not come to INC and go to TRS which may join NDA which is not a competetion then INC which wants its merger with it. So no benifit for congress as of now for giving any T state.

Naturally Congress is draging the issue.
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Narayana Rao wrote:and they know that if T is agreed then Jagan will sweep rest of AP and for a generation INC has to forget those areas. T area also may not come to INC and go to TRS which may join NDA which is not a competetion then INC which wants its merger with it. So no benifit for congress as of now for giving any T state.

Naturally Congress is draging the issue.
Why only Jagan? Doesn't the TDP have any chance in Andhra?
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Unfortunately for TDP, CBN's two eye polocy of sailing in two boats will be a problem. Further there is a trust defecit with his record of backstabing NTR being reminded to people time and again. But I do agree that if T is agreed then it will be very very tough for INC in non Telengana areas which has 25 Loksabha seats out of which it has won 22 last time. With Jagan gone it now has 21. In any election it will be TDP and Jagan who is be fighting of the first two places in case INC agrees for division. Jagan gang is to be crushed now itself by INC and already indications are that this gang is slowly losing support amoung politicos.

One more thing is the allotment of Gulam Nabi Azad as INC in charge of Congress. He also held his position earlier and knows the state. I do not know how the demands for saparate state of Jammu and Union Territory of Ladakh will effect is decision. In case of Pranab I am sure he was afraid for Gurkhaland demand.
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Every time they seem to be in an insurmountable lead, the true face of TRS comes out at an inappropriate time and plunges the party to new lows. Clearly if separate state doesn't come in the next one year, this party has no future. They ran out of all the tricks. It is very hard to keep the flock, whose primary interest is power, together for long. This applies to Jagan gang too although they may have little longer time. So it seems Congress still have some tricks left in their armor.
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my relations back home say they are skeptical if anything good will be done if Telangana comes. my impression is this is more to do with the "leadership" that is in charge of the T-movement than the movement itself. on other news, it seems the "bandhs" and dharnas are losing their power too. people are giving too much 'value' to these protests, though they stay home to keep safe. it seems the movement is hampered by a severe lack of trust in those spearheading it.
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Slowly INC and the present CM is gaining ground on Jagan. IT Notices review of land allotments etc on business side. tactical steps like roping Chiru and even tacit understanding with TDP in MLC electioons etc are being taken. If Jagan is contained in near future then CM will take steps on how to nutralise TRS and pro naxal gangs who are now leading the T agitation. I think INC hopes that T agitation will discredit it self by the time Jagan is taken care of. With the destruction at Tank Bund it has already happend. Giving T evenafter Jagan is contained will only lead to giving fresh rope to Jagan with no visible political gain to INC.
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One more drama news. TDP T leaders were almost kicked our Chiddu when they went to meet him in Delhi. Seems he does not want to listen on T from TDP leaders. more dramas to come in AP. Just now it is reported that Jagan creminal gang won 3 of the 5 MLC seats from local bodies which it has contested. Congress won 3 out of 9 and TDP 3. Earlier Congress help 8 seats and therefore lost 5 seats in the present elections. TDP increased from 1 to 3.

So Jagan creminal gang back with a bang and more head aches for Italian gang of Delhi. Present CM may be axed soon as per the news reports.
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http://www.eenadu.net/breakhtml.asp?qry=break14

This is a breaking news and also the URL may not be same after a while. Per this news (in telugu), the High Court said that the chapter-8 which was hidden by SKC and government should be made public.
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Narayana Rao wrote:Present CM may be axed soon as per the news reports.
so the chopping and changing of congress AP CMs with utter contempt by the gandhis is again the flavor of the day.
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ravi_ku, When current CM was chosen it was expected he could contain the YSJ faction and hence Rosiah was axed. The guy has done even more damage and has to be replaced. His failure shows he is not the right choice but some bogus social equations. They might have to go thru many changes till they find the right guy in INC.
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ramana wrote:ravi_ku, When current CM was chosen it was expected he could contain the YSJ faction and hence Rosiah was axed. The guy has done even more damage and has to be replaced. His failure shows he is not the right choice but some bogus social equations. They might have to go thru many changes till they find the right guy in INC.
I dont see any congress leader who is popular enough. may be they will get S. jaipal Reddy back from central politics, but he doesnt have any local weight. or the road will lead them to Jagan. :rotfl:

news of TRS merging with congress and now this means, again point to me that Jagan himself might be a manchurian candidate of congress.
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Muppalla wrote:http://www.eenadu.net/breakhtml.asp?qry=break14

This is a breaking news and also the URL may not be same after a while. Per this news (in telugu), the High Court said that the chapter-8 which was hidden by SKC and government should be made public.
They have to ask Central Home ministry to reveal and HM can ignore such request.
Is the HC judge same guy that made bad comments on Judge Sri Krishna?
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ravi_ku wrote:
ramana wrote:ravi_ku, When current CM was chosen it was expected he could contain the YSJ faction and hence Rosiah was axed. The guy has done even more damage and has to be replaced. His failure shows he is not the right choice but some bogus social equations. They might have to go thru many changes till they find the right guy in INC.
I dont see any congress leader who is popular enough. may be they will get S. jaipal Reddy back from central politics, but he doesnt have any local weight. or the road will lead them to Jagan. :rotfl:

news of TRS merging with congress and now this means, again point to me that Jagan himself might be a manchurian candidate of congress.
In Yesterday's local body MLC results, Congress, YSR party, and TDP won 3 each where Congress was supposed to win 8. Jagan split Congress votes in the middle. Projecting from that without Jagan Congress will be washout in non-T. In case they do something to T, it will be wipe out for Congress.

Congress may start doing operation bring Jagan back. So If TRS merges it is well and good for Congress. If they don't merge, Congress must bring Jagan back to take care of TRS.
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ShyamSP, If TDP won 3 instead of 1 seat earlier, then they gained 2. So YSJ presence also helped TDP?
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ramana wrote:ShyamSP, If TDP won 3 instead of 1 seat earlier, then they gained 2. So YSJ presence also helped TDP?
Yes. TDP won Ananthapur due to Jagan and JC Diwakar Reddy of Congress. Chittoor had 600 votes for Congress and 300 for TDP. YSR party won there means they split more than half votes of Congress. Except in Srikakulam Congress got severe blow everywhere.

In many districts Congress has votes twice that of TDP's. Jagan split into half or more so Jagan or TDP won. Local body MLC election is also reflection of local leaders abandoning Congress which was discussion point before but now it has merit.
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^^^
TDP almost won the 4th one. Had Md.Jani lost to Pratibha Bharati it would have been a massive loss for INC. Even now it is the worst situation of INC.
Jagan did the following:
(1) Made sure INC MLAs and TRS MLAs cross vote.
(2) Ensured cross voting at district level MPPs and ZPPs so that INC loses

On top of that J C Diwakar Reddy formed non-Jagan dissident group inside INC to go for a kill in ensuring TDP victory.

The options for congress are very simple - (1) Bring back Jagan and make him CM or (2) Merge TRS with a promise to Telangana after 15 years. If you promise immediately you will give advantage to Jagan.

The second option is underway. This is not going to get them competetive during elections. They have to either make KCR as CM of AP or make a complete redux with Reddys and replace with Chiranjeevi. This will ensure their existance and not necessarily the victory.

But there is a lot of time on their side. They will find some way to get out of the rot.
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I still read it as objective enough for not granting T. The judges and other can read whatever.

Srikrishna panel was anti-Telangana - HC Judge
It was meant to be an impartial committee constituted to look into the demand for Telangana. Instead, it ended up more partisan that a Congress party's internal report.

"The Justice Srikrishna Committee was against the creation of Telangana, was of the view that maoists will benefit and that communal violence will be unleashed if Telangana was created. The panel also urged the centre to 'manage' the print media to project the united Andhra stance by doling out the advertisements accordingly."

These was the summary of Chapter 8 of the Srikrishna Committee which was submitted in a sealed secret cover by the members to the centre. Following a petition by former MP N Narayana Reddy seeking that the report be made public, Justice L Narasimha Reddy, who had reserved his orders in the case, made the contents public on Wednesday and made scathing observations against the views projected by the panel.

In his 60-page order, Justice Narasimha Reddy said: "After a great deal of study, an in-depth pondering over, and after weighing the factors, such as propriety, this Court opinions not as matter of choice, that the objective in preparing a separate note and delivering it to the respondent was more an effort to persuade the Union of India to desist from showing any inclination towards Option No.5, i.e. formation of Telangana State." The Committee travelled beyond the terms of reference in its endeavour to persuade the Union of India not to accede to the demand for Telangana, the justice held.

According to the secret report, if Telangana was formed, it will become an epicentre for maoist violence and communal violence. "The note suggests that maoists will extend their activities to various districts of Telangana; spread Maoist violence, and that Maoists are trying to make a combat through Telangana region," justice Reddy said. In the event that the separate state is not realised, some of the militant elements in the maoist movement will go underground and revive the movement in some parts of Telangana, the note said.

With regard to communal violence, the creation of Telangana will give rise to Jihadi elements in the Muslim community and to counter that, "Hindu fundamentalists may compete with them and try to polarize the Hindu population. Referring to the political parties BJP and MIM, the secret note said: Since the BJP has a strong presence, it may try to consolidate in Telangana area and further extend its base. AIMIM may try to expand in Rayalaseema regions resulting in birth of militant communalism in certain pockets. The note also hinted that dividing the state will heighten fissures on caste lines.

Pointing out the contradictions in the Srikrishna Committee's main report and the secret note, Justice Narasimha Reddy noted that while stating in the main report that the demand for a separate Telangana has some merit, in the note, it painted a different picture. "According to it, most of the major infrastructure in Telangana region in the fields of education, industries, etc., is owned by Seemandra people, and formation of State would be detrimental to such establishments," the justice observed.

The secret note claimed that "most of the major educational infrastructure in the Telangana region has historically been owned by the Seemandhra people. The student community which is spearheading the separate Telangana agitation has been using these educational institutions for their agitational activities. This may lead to migration of the faculty as well as these institutions, impacting / reducing the availability of local persons who can be productively engaged by the industry/business-houses," the note said.

Further, the note held that the Telangana region is mineral rich having deposits of limestone, and granite and that the dominant industries there are thermal power stations, pharmaceuticals etc., which are mostly managed by Seemandhra people. "One of the main propaganda issues in the Telangana agitation has been that once a separate state is created, the job opportunities in all these industries will be made available to the people of Telangana. Many of the owners and skilled personnel in these industries have historically being from Seemandhra region, the inability to substitute them with sufficient number of qualified locals may lead to conflict between the locals and non-locals and also between the management and the workforce.

While stating that Telangana leaders should be appointed in key political posts like chief minister and deputy chief minister (in order to keep the state undivided), the secret note of the Srikrishna panel said in order to soften the TSR, Congress leaders from Telangana should be persuaded not to lend any form of support to the separate state movement. "The Congress High Command must sensitize its own MPs and MLAs and educate them about the wisdom for arriving at an acceptable and workable solution," which meant no to Telangana.

Advising the centre as to how to manage the media with the aim of not granting Telangana, the secret note said: "Andhra Pradesh has got about 13 Electronic Channels and 5 major local Newspapers which are in the forefront of moulding the public opinion. Except for two Channels (Raj News & HMTV), the rest of them are supporters of a united Andhra Pradesh." While the main editors and the editorial desk are dominated by Seemandhra people, the beat journalists in the respective regions are locals and are likely to capture only those events/news which reflect the regional sentiments, the Srikrishna panel held. referring to this observation, Justice Narasimha Reddy said: "If one has any doubt about the hidden opposition of the Committee for formation of Telangana, that stands removed with this note."

Referring to the media management that the panel suggested to the centre in order to dilute the T movement, the justice said: More disturbing is the suggestion given by the Committee to the Government. It reads, The print media is hugely dependent on the Government for advertisement revenue and if carefully handled, can be an effective tool to achieve this goal. The court also castigated the state for rewarding an IPS officer for having caused violence against students at Osmania University by posting him as commissioner of a city and further rewarding him after he was involved in a SMS scandal.
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PTI reports on the MLC elections:

Rebel leader Y.S. Jaganmohan Reddy dealt a blow to the Congress even before formally launching his YSR Congress Party by defeating the ruling party candidates in three seats in the elections to the Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council from the Local Authorities Constituencies.

The Independent candidates backed by him have won the Local Authorities’ Constituencies (LAC) polls in Kadapa, Chittoor and West Godavari districts though the results are yet to be officially announced.

The margin of victory for Mr. Jagan’s candidates, though, was very slender in Chittoor and Kadapa -- his home district -- as they won by just one and nine votes respectively.

It was a personal setback to Chief Minister N. Kiran Kumar Reddy as Congress lost the Council election in his native Chittoor district.

A re-counting of votes was done in Chittoor as a Jagan group nominee secured a majority of just one vote. Initially, the Returning Officer Pradyumna rejected Congress’ demand for re-counting but later gave in.

Even then the Jagan group candidate maintained the one vote lead.

Overall, Congress lost three seats it currently held while main Opposition TDP added two more to its tally by winning three seats this time.

Congress contested eight seats, TDP seven and five from Jagan’s group and all of them won three seats each.

Mr. Kiran Kumar Reddy had claimed two days ago, immediately after the polling, that Congress would win six out of nine seats but the results proved otherwise.

TDP wrested the Anantapur LAC seat from Congress as former minister J C Diwakar Reddy’s supporters voted against the party. Mr. Diwakar had been sulking ever since he was denied a Cabinet berth in 2009.

The East Godavari LAC seat too went to TDP’s kitty as Jagan’s group played spoilsport with the prospects of the Congress nominee.

Congress and TDP held one seat each in West Godavari previously but only the latter managed to retain its position.

Here, Jagan’s group defeated Congress to bag the second seat.

Following the drubbing, State Tourism Minister Vatti Vasantha Kumar reportedly offered to step down from the post owning “moral responsibility”. His fellow ministers, however, dissuaded Mr. Vatti from doing so. :mrgreen:

Elections were held for nine seats in eight districts on March 21 and counting of votes was taken up this morning.

As per unofficial results available, Congress won three (Srikakulam, Kurnool and SPS Nellore), TDP three (Anantapur, West Godavari and East Godavari) while the independent candidates supported by Jagan won in Kadapa, Chittoor and West Godavari.

The Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen had already won the Hyderabad LAC seat unopposed.
So another rearrangement will take place. If KKR cant win in his own district he has no business to be CM.

As these are local authority elections it reflects the large population.
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and the mood in local and village level leadership of the party. With this kind of result particularly from his own disctrict the KKR may have to be shown the door. D Srinivas the State president is also due to be changed. Speaker of the Assembly is also to elected. So INC has to revamp the party and administrative set up in the state soon to save itself in AP otherwise come 2014 it will be Jagan and TDP which will contest for 1st and 2nd places with INC running for the 3rd place. No amount of Chiru support will save Congress as the caste is not such a dominant factor in AP.

Comming to the 8th Capter of the SKC report, I am really surprised that the Judge chose to quote the report extensively in his orders. This kind of order on any confidencial report where almost reproduce the entire original thing will take away the right of the concerned Ministry to prefer appeal to the Supreme Court. I wonder if it is the same Judge who earlier gave public statements against the SKC.

In any event the said capter shows the fears of the establishment which can not be simply brushed aside. There are many press reports of Kerala Jihadis getting support in logistics and training in Hyderabad and proceeding to Kashmir. Telangana area is the main battle ground between Indian state and the Naxal terrorists and it is only YSR period when the naxal gangs were almost smashed. Almost all the naxal gangs have run away from Telangana areas leaving the open ground naxals like Gaddar who are now active in Telangana movement. Earlier reports ( including details posted here) suggest a large section of the naxal over ground people have also joined TRS. So TRS and naxals have a tacit understanding to have a exclusive loot in Hyderabad City. Demise of Hyderabad as an economic power house may be the outcome if they are allowed Telangana.
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Are the Income Tax raids on Telugu movie stars related to the political situation? Interesting that ANR's son is being raided now. Rumors are he owns most of Banjara/Jubilee Hills.
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RamaY!!!

This report was not posted here earlier.

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Five candidates of ruling Congress, two of main opposition Telugu Desam Party, and one each of Praja Rajyam, Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen and Communist Party of India were officially declared elected to the Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council from the state Assembly quota today.

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Congress’ official nominee, Mohammad Jani, currently Deputy Chairman of the Council, escaped defeat by a whisker with the help of second preference votes. He polled only 17 first preference votes as against the required 27 as about 12 Congress MLAs cross-voted in favour of MIM’s Altaf Rizvi.

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Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen’s Altaf Rizvi polled the highest 36 first preference votes.

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The votes polled clearly indicated that there was large-scale cross-voting by Congress and TRS MLAs.

While about 12 Congress MLAs, owing allegiance to rebel leader Y S Jaganmohan Reddy, voted for the MIM candidate against the party directive, at least three TRS members were believed to have voted for Congress’ Ranga Reddy.
Mesquita zindabad!
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ramana wrote:Are the Income Tax raids on Telugu movie stars related to the political situation? Interesting that ANR's son is being raided now. Rumors are he owns most of Banjara/Jubilee Hills.
ANR belongs mainly to Congress but in an inactive manner. Annapoorna Studio was developed by ANR family but it was done properly long time back. So main assets are there for decades and may not be hit by any raids. Indidentally it is the First studio built in AP state at the request of Late Sri Chenna Reddy ( of Telangana ) with an intension to move the Telugu Movie industry from Madras to Hyderabad. It is this process of shifting movie industry to Hyderabad city
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Gurujis,

What is the probability and consequence of -

Alliance between YSRC and MIM with a separate T demand after INC-TRS merger?
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RamaY garu,
YSRC supported T is out of question.

Right now central INC is thinking on the lines of giving T after 10 years and HYD as some UT or common capital etc. The only caveat is merger of TRS is a condition for such an arrangement. However, this dialog is not concluded with all sorts of psy-ops and planted news.

Even such a longshot arrangement will boomerang on congress. The minute congress talks T, Jagan will take full advantage.

It is a deadlock and I cannot think through any great gamble that INC could pull off. The best bet for them not thinking through T factor is to bring back Jagan and make his as CM immediately. He has the abilities to rollback to an extent but T is a lot changed portion now.

My predictions is TDP will turn to united AP slogan at right opportunity to blunt all the parties and they may win the state even by losing T except for few seats in couple of districts plus HYD.
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Before we debate whether SKC went out of their league to support United AP, we need to clearly question the crooked intentions of the sitting Judge, Mr Narasimha Reddy, for completely ruining the constitutional rights of one of the grieving party (in this case the home ministry). He forgot that there is another court, higher than HC to which the grieving party can appeal to. Now what purpose does it serve for Home ministry to go to SC when this Judge, in the name of judgment, very cleverly published most of the report. This is one of fundamental reasons why the judges recluse themselves from the cases when there is certain conflict of interest. It is preposterous for this judge, who publicly pronounces his separatist leanings, to make a judgment on the integrity of five neutral intellectuals who have nothing to gain in united AP or separate T.

This goonda tactics of T vadis to slash and burn everybody that comes in the way of separate T has to be stopped. The judge Mr Narsimha Reddy should be prosecuted for contempt of court.

Contrary to his intentions, this Judge made tremendous disservice to separate T notion by bringing this report to public, as it is very clear now that SKC completely opposes separate T and they are almost begging central government to do everything in their power to stop this ill conceived movement.
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A silent play in the shadow of power
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It only shows the despicable nature of politics in the name of separate movement, and here the 5 neutral observers are painstakingly and candidly asking the government to do everything to stop the division of the state.
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we do not know if this quote is true or not. The judge did very bad thing in quoting this matter in his judgement. I wonder if any appeal is filed how Supreme court will view this matter
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